Ginobli Doesn't Get Enough Hate

[GabeIsGone]

Seriously why does nobody call this bum out for what he his? He has a good game every once in a while, or clutch ridiculous shot (after missing 10 in a row) and everyone is like "OMG MANU THE BEST EVER". But the majority of the time he flops, turns the ball over, complains about calls while the game goes on, takes stupid shots that ANYONE else on the team would get fucking called out for, turns the ball over, goes complete dumbass HERO mode forgot-how-to-pass whenever he get the ball in crunch time situations, and then turns the ball over again.

Green is dependable, clutch, better shooter, a MUCH better defender, and deserves ALL the crunch time minutes and plays that are currently called for this overrated relic of a previous dynasty.

Edit: Also would like to point out that I got mad love for what Gino has done for this franchise. But the past is the past, and people need to evaluate his play in the here-and-now and not as an overall body of work (for current performance).

[RD2191]

OP dropping truth nukes .

[ElNono]

because this game was lost when Danny was blocked by Lillard shooting a game-winner 3...

[Kool Bob Love]

Seriously why does nobody call this bum out for what he his? He has a good game every once in a while, or clutch ridiculous shot (after missing 10 in a row) and everyone is like "OMG MANU THE BEST EVER". But the majority of the time he flops, turns the ball over, complains about calls while the game goes on, takes stupid shots that ANYONE else on the team would get fucking called out for, turns the ball over, goes complete dumbass HERO mode forgot-how-to-pass whenever he get the ball in crunch time situations, and then turns the ball over again.

Green is dependable, clutch, better shooter, a MUCH better defender, and deserves ALL the crunch time minutes and plays that are currently called for this overrated relic of a previous dynasty.

2nd greatest spur of all time. He can get the kobe deal next year and I won't even care. Deserves every penny,

[KL2]

Parker=Leonard's kryptonite

Manu=Green's kryptonite

[RD2191]

2nd greatest spur of all time. He can get the kobe deal next year and I won't even care. Deserves every penny,
Sup ElNono?

[TheGreatYacht]

OP deserves to get bolded :tu They don't want facts thrown at them

[ElNono]

Sup ElNono?

:lol not me

[Kool Bob Love]

Sup ElNono?

Dont quote me no more b.

[gilmor]

2nd greatest spur of all time. He can get the kobe deal next year and I won't even care. Deserves every penny,

2nd greatest Spurs is prob DRob. He laid the foundation for the championship..

[RD2191]

:lol not me
:lol

[Kool Bob Love]

2nd greatest Spurs is prob DRob. He laid the foundation for the championship..

manu:4

drob: 2

lettuce proceed.

[Kool Bob Love]

:lol not me

Clown move leaving your homie out to dry. Gave you 4 reasons to live. Dirty.

[ElNono]

Clown move leaving your homie out to dry.

I'm right here should to shoulder... but, I'll call a spade a spade... he had a bad game tonight... dunno if it was the rolled ankle or what...

don't like to put excuses.... he wasn't good tonight when we needed him. no biggie.

[hater]

I been clamoring this for years. this year at least most people are catching up.

[hater]

http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/3/125211/1930515/EvitaBus3_1500.jpg

[TampaDude]

Thanks, Turnobili. You faggot. Please fucking retire now.

[Silver&Black]

OP....check out the end of the last two game threads.

[marinoman]

true, all i ever see here are threads praising manu.

[TampaDude]

Thanks, Turnobili. You faggot. Please fucking retire now.

[Splits]

We'd have 7, possibly 8 rings, with a normal-to-above average 2 guard similar to Manu without all the fuckuppedry. If we could have had a guy like Ray Allen instead of Manu, mannnnnnn.... 8 rings would be sweet

[Johnny RIngo]

We'd have 7, possibly 8 rings, with a normal-to-above average 2 guard similar to Manu without all the fuckuppedry. If we could have had a guy like Ray Allen instead of Manu, mannnnnnn.... 8 rings would be sweet

Yeah, and we probably five-peat if we had a good point guard in the mid-2000s instead of that French choke artist.

[mkurts]

Because 5 of 17 is gold for rabid Manu fans

[Buddy Mignon]

Seriously why does nobody call this bum out for what he his? He has a good game every once in a while, or clutch ridiculous shot (after missing 10 in a row) and everyone is like "OMG MANU THE BEST EVER". But the majority of the time he flops, turns the ball over, complains about calls while the game goes on, takes stupid shots that ANYONE else on the team would get fucking called out for, turns the ball over, goes complete dumbass HERO mode forgot-how-to-pass whenever he get the ball in crunch time situations, and then turns the ball over again.

Green is dependable, clutch, better shooter, a MUCH better defender, and deserves ALL the crunch time minutes and plays that are currently called for this overrated relic of a previous dynasty.



Edit: Also would like to point out that I got mad love for what Gino has done for this franchise. But the past is the past, and people need to evaluate his play in the here-and-now and not as an overall body of work (for current performance).


If he was a Laker he'd get it.

[baseline bum]

http://giant.gfycat.com/FearfulFamousAsianconstablebutterfly.gif

Ginobili to Spurstalk: Shhhhhhhhhh

[timtonymanu]

Manu was a big part of 5.

Who gives a shit?

[baseline bum]

7zeHJMCiN60

[BatManu20]

:lol

[BatManu20]

Ironically, Manu has cost us 1 championship, but without him, we don't win those other 3... so take it for what it is.

[baseline bum]

Gonna be a sad day when he retires. Seems like it was yesterday I was watching his Euroleague games online and telling everyone about Euro Carter coming over.

[hyhy]

Ya, lets pretend green can create for himself in crunch time without manu feeding him the open three

[tmtcsc]

Why? Because due to injuries to other players, he's being asked to do things he's no longer capable of doing consistently. 2012-2013 Manu may have cost us a Championship but he was right there in 2013-2014 to help us win #5. He's no longer what he once was but he's still a Champion and capable of being a difference maker when put in the right situation. Once this team gets healthy and balanced, all will be right again. Chip 6 coming.

[Juggity]

Ironically, Manu has cost us 1 championship, but without him, we don't win those other 3... so take it for what it is.

You could say he's cost us 2 championships, if you consider 2006.

But I agree that he's been more good than bad in his time on the spurs and you can't ignore his contributions in '14, '05, '07 etc.

[DarrinS]

He's definitely in decline, but he's been one of the most entertaining and influential players of the past decade.

[BillMc]

Why would I hate a Spurs player? I root for my team.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You guys are such fucking faggots. He just played 70 minutes. What the fuck do you expect?

[Johnny RIngo]

You could say he's cost us 2 championships, if you consider 2006.

But I agree that he's been more good than bad in his time on the spurs and you can't ignore his contributions in '14, '05, '07 etc.

Parker deserves more blame for '06 than Manu. His entire series against Dallas was underwhelming. And you can't throw Manu under the bus for 2013 without mentioning TP and his horrendous shooting performance in games 6 and 7.

[Harry Callahan]

Someone put up video of game 5 of the 2014 finals.

That game alone should give Manu the right to play again this year and see what happens. He was awesome and helped us close that series out.

The injuries in the backcourt are killing us right now. Manu cannot play these heavy minutes anymore and be effective. That's just a fact. He has to be a key bench guy playing 20-22 minutes a night.

No Patty Mills and limited Leonard, Splitter, and Parker has probably cost us 6-7 wins already.

[kobexxx]

he's still godd for 3-4 years

[FkLA]

Why? Because due to injuries to other players, he's being asked to do things he's no longer capable of doing consistently.

It's amazing how many people are retarded enough to actually expect him to be a primary playmaker at 40 years old.

[TheGreatYacht]

It's amazing how many people are retarded enough to actual expect him to be a primary playmaker at 40 years old.
No one is expecting that, everyone knows he's shit. Quit being retarded

[FkLA]

No one is expecting that, everyone knows he's shit. Quit being retarded

That's what's he's had to be and what he's failed at several times this season, dipshit. Mainly bc Enrique is taking weeks off with a sore asscheek.

[TheGreatYacht]

That's what's he's had to be and what he's failed at several times this season, dipshit. Mainly bc Enrique is taking weeks off with a sore asscheek.
Great. Now the short bus is talking about someone having too many injuries :lol

[Johnny RIngo]

A 37 year shooting guard should never be expected to run the team's offense.

Meanwhile, our 32 year old "all-star" point is sitting out every night sulking on the bench. Stockton at age 32 played 82 games, 35 minutes every night averaging 15/12 while playing physical defense. Wish we had a pointguard half as durable or reliable as him.

[houston spurs fan]

Great. Now the short bus is talking about someone having too many injuries :lol
Pot calling the kettle with all the short bus references. You have been driving that bus since you joined this site. Probably the most intellectually challenged posted here.

[FkLA]

A 37 year shooting guard should never be expected to run the team's offense.

Meanwhile, our 32 year old "all-star" point is sitting out every night sulking on the bench. Stockton at age 32 played 82 games, 35 minutes every night averaging 15/12 while playing physical defense. Wish we has a pointguard half as durable or reliable as him.

his asscheek is really sore though, he needs rest :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

Pot calling the kettle with all the short bus references. You have been driving that bus since you joined this site. Probably the most intellectually challenged posted here.
Who are you?

[SupremeGuy]

http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/3/125211/1930515/EvitaBus3_1500.jpgFucking lame, but it wasn't until this picture that I got the Evita reference. lol

[houston spurs fan]

Hate the guy all you want but he is out there giving it his all. The Spurs do not have one guy who can create their own shot or create for others out there except Manu or Duncan right now. Without TP, Kawhi, Patty, we have no one. Danny Green doesn't get those looks without Manu or Duncan creating. He missed his transition 3's. Jesus, without Manu we lose both games well before the 3 OT's. If you bench/retire Manu, who creates?? You are asking too much of the guy at this stage in his career. He isn't Kobe.

[UZER]

A 37 year shooting guard should never be expected to run the team's offense.

Meanwhile, our 32 year old "all-star" point is sitting out every night sulking on the bench. Stockton at age 32 played 82 games, 35 minutes every night averaging 15/12 while playing physical defense. Wish we had a pointguard half as durable or reliable as him.

Parker has run himself into the ground with all the international play, like Manu.

But Pop babies these guys way too much.

[Johnny RIngo]

Parker has run himself into the ground with all the international play, like Manu.

And yet, he's still planning on playing even MORE international ball this summer. TP's priorities are definitely fucking backasswards

[Pauleta14]

WTF the title of the thread?!?!? :lol

Spurtalk fan a soooo spoiled lmao

[50Bestspurever]

"But the past is the past" like last year? wat a fucking stupid waste of time thread.

[Hoops Czar]

Painful watching CoJo trying to defend Lilliard. It was like reliving an episode of Boy Meets World.

[apalisoc_9]

But what exactly should Manu be doing?

Green took more shots this game, there was effort to get him involved.

The team lacked creators in the offensive end since Jospeh is a horrible PG..

Who is the alternative?

[Cloud786]

Why do we keep giving Manu a pass? As much as I love him for what he has done, he cost us 2 championships (2006, 2013) with some of the most egregious boneheaded plays I have ever seen. Just cause he helped us win the other 4 championships, should not give him a pass for his screw-ups. If only we could know what goes on inside of that head of his...

[ElNono]

"But the past is the past" like last year? wat a fucking stupid waste of time thread.

you mean this year... but yeah...

[Pocho La Pantera]

Bad game, rest him a week and move on, maybe Bellinelli can do what he does, faggots.

[milkyway21]

Seriously why does nobody call this bum out for what he his? He has a good game every once in a while, or clutch ridiculous shot (after missing 10 in a row) and everyone is like "OMG MANU THE BEST EVER". But the majority of the time he flops, turns the ball over, complains about calls while the game goes on, takes stupid shots that ANYONE else on the team would get fucking called out for, turns the ball over, goes complete dumbass HERO mode forgot-how-to-pass whenever he get the ball in crunch time situations, and then turns the ball over again.

Green is dependable, clutch, better shooter, a MUCH better defender, and deserves ALL the crunch time minutes and plays that are currently called for this overrated relic of a previous dynasty.

Edit: Also would like to point out that I got mad love for what Gino has done for this franchise. But the past is the past, and people need to evaluate his play in the here-and-now and not as an overall body of work (for current performance).


I wonder why people just go out their way to discredit the players of this team. Pointing fingers. Disrespecting.
Oklahoma, Phoenix, Houston fans can take the losses why can't we?. The Spurs won 5 titles. Still we complain a lot :(

FYI, I LOVE THE SPURS BECAUSE OF DUNCAN & MANU that's why I am cheering for this team

NOT that, I am cheering for Duncan or Manu because he's a Spur.

There's a difference.

[Spurs Brazil]

Manu is still good for 20-23 minutes, but with all the injures Pop is playing him more and it's clear Manu can't play all those minutes. At the end we see he has nothing in tank. When everybody is back Manu will be fine in his 20-23 minutes

[313]

Ironically, Manu has cost us 1 championship, but without him, we don't win those other 3... so take it for what it is.
he cost us 2. 06 and 13 fwiw tbh not a manu hater just stating facts

[313]

And you can't throw Manu under the bus for 2013 without mentioning TP and his horrendous shooting performance in games 6 and 7.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bdV0XsrWl8g/hqdefault.jpg

[313]

A 37 year shooting guard should never be expected to run the team's offense.

Meanwhile, our 32 year old "all-star" point is sitting out every night sulking on the bench. Stockton at age 32 played 82 games, 35 minutes every night averaging 15/12 while playing physical defense. Wish we had a pointguard half as durable or reliable as him.
Manu, at age 31, played 44 games the entire season so Manu lovers should be the last ones crucifying a player about their durability.

[EVAY]

Manu is still good for 20-23 minutes, but with all the injures Pop is playing him more and it's clear Manu can't play all those minutes. At the end we see he has nothing in tank. When everybody is back Manu will be fine in his 20-23 minutes

[TheGreatYacht]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bdV0XsrWl8g/hqdefault.jpg
Got em coach

[Agloco]

Parker deserves more blame for '06 than Manu. His entire series against Dallas was underwhelming. And you can't throw Manu under the bus for 2013 without mentioning TP and his horrendous shooting performance in games 6 and 7.

I recall Parker having a hammy issue at the end of that series. Surely that playes a part in all of that. Difference is, Manu is supposedly healthy during these horrendous stretches.

Right now hes got the look of a player that's mentally checked out. Yes he's played long minutes, but it goes beyond that.

[Agloco]

he cost us 2. 06 and 13 fwiw tbh not a manu hater just stating facts

The only certain one he cost us was 13. Why does everyone assume the Spurs would have won in 06? That's faulty logic.

[jag]

Gonna be a sad day when he retires. Seems like it was yesterday I was watching his Euroleague games online and telling everyone about Euro Carter coming over.

:cry I miss him already tbh

[look_at_g_shred]

He gets enough hate.

[tmtcsc]

Manu is still good for 20-23 minutes, but with all the injures Pop is playing him more and it's clear Manu can't play all those minutes. At the end we see he has nothing in tank. When everybody is back Manu will be fine in his 20-23 minutes

Well put. Manu at 20 minutes per game is perfect for this team. You are asking for trouble playing him anything beyond that. Extended minutes effects him physically and mentally - poor shot selection, poor lift on his shots, poor passes, everything. Yet, he does all he possibly can to try and win games. I'll take Manu on this team any day.

I'm wondering why Baynes didn't play more. He could have given TD more rest.

[TheGreatYacht]

He doesn't get enough hate.

[FkLA]

I recall Parker having a hammy issue at the end of that series. Surely that playes a part in all of that. Difference is, Manu is supposedly healthy during these horrendous stretches.

Right now hes got the look of a player that's mentally checked out. Yes he's played long minutes, but it goes beyond that.

Haha, name me a time Enrique has struggled simply due to an increase in competition. Everytime he struggled vs OKC or Miami it was conveniently due to some minor injury. It's like he's unstoppable and the only thing that can slow him down are injuries. :lol

[BatManu20]

he cost us 2. 06 and 13 fwiw tbh not a manu hater just stating facts

Who's to say we end up winning in '06 though? And that was prime Manu still, without him, that series doesn't even go 7 games. '13 was definitive.

[TheGreatYacht]

Replace Manu with another decent SG that would've gotten his $7,428,000 in 06, and the Spurs are champs. Fact.

[UZER]

:cry I miss him already tbh

I miss him already too. Not sure who the guy wearing #20 for the spurs right now is.

[mkurts]

Rest him for four weeks

[Cloud786]

Who's to say we end up winning in '06 though? And that was prime Manu still, without him, that series doesn't even go 7 games. '13 was definitive.

We would've played a Phoenix Suns team in the WCF without Amar'e, a team we repeatedly owned. And then in the Finals, we would've played a clearly inferior Miami Heat team that relied on a young D-Wade and past his prime Shaq. I like our chances in those two series tbh.

[MilesTeg]

He gets way too much hate, especially for '13. The team's biggest problem is falling into predictable basketball, circling around the 3 point line with a bunch of pick and rolls that don't do anything. Against Miami it was obvious, and we were really struggling to score (how fast people forget). We needed his craziness to make things happen. It didn't work out but it would've still been a lot worse without him.

When Manu comes in he finds opportunities no one else thinks of. Sometimes... well those opportunites don't actually exist, and it's a turnover. But anyway the cost is worth it, and without him there's no way we beat the really good teams.

[TheGreatYacht]

He gets way too much hate, especially for '13. The team's biggest problem is falling into predictable basketball, circling around the 3 point line with a bunch of pick and rolls that don't do anything. Against Miami it was obvious, and we were really struggling to score (how fast people forget). We needed his craziness to make things happen. It didn't work out but it would've still been a lot worse without him.

When Manu comes in he finds opportunities no one else thinks of. Sometimes... well those opportunites don't actually exist, and it's a turnover. But anyway the cost is worth it, and without him there's no way we beat the really good teams.
Lebron?

[Arcadian]

7zeHJMCiN60

:lol Shane Battier...that bitch got owned hardcore

[Emeyin]

He came through for us when we needed him last year in the Playoffs. Good enough for a pass from me until this year's playoffs.

[mkurts]

Ginobili does not get enough rest