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SpursFan86
12-23-2014, 12:38 AM
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A few quotes from the pre-game presser:

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Welp...at this point I'm just hoping he's able to return somewhat soon and still be effective as the season goes on. Sounds like it might not be fully repaired until he gets surgery on it, which hopefully wouldn't happen until the offseason.

Mr Bones
12-23-2014, 12:43 AM
I read a quote from Pop that the hand specialist had never seen that injury before in over 20 years of practice... that's a little scary.

SpurPadre
12-23-2014, 12:44 AM
Fuck, we need to trade for a solid backup SF, ASAFUCKINGP.

BatManu20
12-23-2014, 12:50 AM
I read a quote from Pop that the hand specialist had never seen that injury before in over 20 years of practice... that's a little scary.

40* years, actually. Quite troublesome.

Brunodf
12-23-2014, 12:51 AM
Damn

apalisoc_9
12-23-2014, 12:52 AM
How long would the recovery be if he does the surgery now?

I think the spurs can at least float around 7-5 seed without him, so long as he is 100% healthy playoff time..

It might be better if he just does the surgery now, and play the last two months of the regular season just to his rythem baxk, and then bam.

Instead of having him play though a troublesome injury and be 80% in the playoffs.

timtonymanu
12-23-2014, 12:55 AM
That sucks. It's gonna be a problem all season. Terrible news.

Johnny RIngo
12-23-2014, 12:55 AM
Front office should have used the MLE on a backup wing during the summer. Did they really think Belinelli was more than sufficient for that role, especially after his disastrous post-season performance?

timtonymanu
12-23-2014, 12:56 AM
Fuck, we need to trade for a solid backup SF, ASAFUCKINGP.

Don't think whoever that is can replace everything Kawhi brings. Spurs can't afford those kind of players. Just have to hope Leonard miraculously heals. :depressed

Johnny RIngo
12-23-2014, 12:59 AM
If Leonard can't get healthy, Spurs have pretty much no shot at repeating. Probably won't even make it to the Conference Finals without him.

HI-FI
12-23-2014, 01:02 AM
shit.


well we'll always have 5. I worry more about every slap or handcheck unless it can heal well enough. only good news is I originally read the injury as "infection" but was happier when I saw it was "injection". Either way, this shit is disconcerting.

The doc mentioned never seeing this type of injury, and with his huge hands that's possible, but I hope they still get multiple opinions.

Infinite_limit
12-23-2014, 01:15 AM
Fuck, we need to trade for a solid backup SF, ASAFUCKINGP.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.422942.1314530033!/img/httpImage/amd-richard-jefferson-jpg.jpg

Arcadian
12-23-2014, 01:15 AM
How long would the recovery be if he does the surgery now?

I think the spurs can at least float around 7-5 seed without him, so long as he is 100% healthy playoff time..

It might be better if he just does the surgery now, and play the last two months of the regular season just to his rythem baxk, and then bam.

Instead of having him play though a troublesome injury and be 80% in the playoffs.

I was thinking the same. If he plays injured all year, it'll be a constant thorn in his side. Every time we lose or every time Kawhi makes a mistake, people will constantly attribute it to the hand, and it'll just be a drag on the whole team. So he needs to get that shit fixed ASAP.

Spurs21Fan4Ever
12-23-2014, 01:16 AM
Why can't LeBitch have an injury like this? These type of injuries always happens to the good guys.

Ice009
12-23-2014, 01:17 AM
I've been waiting for news and this sucks. I've been very concerned about it.

I don't know why everyone has been so casual about it and there haven't been multiple threads already asking about it. Even the Spurs commentators were very casual about the injury when the first mentioned it a few games ago.

I want to know when this happened. Was it torn the first time he injured the hand, or was it in the game against Portland @ Portland where Pop rested players again and Kawhi got hit late on it?

loveforthegame
12-23-2014, 01:24 AM
So last week he didn't need surgery and was listed day to day.

Now it's an injury the doctor has never seen before, will be out for some time, and will likely need surgery in the off season.

WTF?

Unless he'd be out months, have the surgery now. Why have him play, keep reinjuring it, and sit for a week or more at a time? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

024
12-23-2014, 01:28 AM
Why not get the surgery right now? Even if he's out 6-8 weeks, Leonard can still come back around after the all star break to get back in rhythm before the playoffs.

TheGreatYacht
12-23-2014, 01:30 AM
Sorry Pop, but you playing him with the reserves vs Portland was "problematic"

SpurPadre
12-23-2014, 01:30 AM
Don't think whoever that is can replace everything Kawhi brings. Spurs can't afford those kind of players. Just have to hope Leonard miraculously heals. :depressed

No replacement but someone that can relieve him of some minutes and occasionally start games for him when need be. Who that is, I don't know...but there's gotta be someone out there.

Ice009
12-23-2014, 01:53 AM
Sorry Pop, but you playing him with the reserves vs Portland was "problematic"

If the tear happened that game, I might be mad for a long time.

loveforthegame
12-23-2014, 02:03 AM
The story has changed so much I'm not sure we'll ever know what (and when) really happened.

apalisoc_9
12-23-2014, 02:10 AM
The story has changed so much I'm not sure we'll ever know what (and when) really happened.

Kawhi said it's no big deal too...and wanted to come back this week. :lol

baseline bum
12-23-2014, 03:16 AM
I guess I can always go for the repeat on 2k15. :depressed

midnightpulp
12-23-2014, 03:35 AM
If he's able to play defense and rebound at his healthy level, the Spurs will be fine. They have enough offense where they don't need to rely on Leonard scoring 15-20 points per game. And he should be able to play through this injury. Torn labrums and such are often played through and then repaired later on in the off-season.

Kawhi shouldn't experience too much, if any, drop off in his play if he's able to play through the pain (his 3 point shooting will probably suffer some). My guess is it's a swelling issue keeping him out of the lineup.

TDfan2007
12-23-2014, 04:10 AM
This could potentially be a devastating blow to the team. With Kawhi this team is an elite championship contender. Without him, we're still very good, but a repeat won't happen. It's a strange injury, that's for sure, and if he has surgery I'd be worried about the recovery time. This team can survive without him for most of the RS, but come playoffs we're toast without him, especially against OKC and the Warriors.

timtonymanu
12-23-2014, 04:46 AM
If Leonard can't get healthy, Spurs have pretty much no shot at repeating. Probably won't even make it to the Conference Finals without him.

Probably wouldn't even get past the 1st round, tbh, since they most likely will finish with a top 4 seed at best so far.

Fireball
12-23-2014, 05:10 AM
Even if Kawhi thinks he can play because the pain is tolerable, starting in the playoffs at the latest every opponent will slap his hand as much as possible. Nobody would admit it, but thats what I would do probably.

cd021
12-23-2014, 05:13 AM
Fuck, we need to trade for a solid backup SF, ASAFUCKINGP.

No reason why Green can't start at the 2 and backup Kawhi at the 3. He should be getting more PS minutes anyway. He helped shut down Wade in the Finals and only averaged 20mpg.

FlAVaK
12-23-2014, 07:43 AM
How long would the recovery be if he does the surgery now?

I think the spurs can at least float around 7-5 seed without him, so long as he is 100% healthy playoff time..

It might be better if he just does the surgery now, and play the last two months of the regular season just to his rythem baxk, and then bam.

Instead of having him play though a troublesome injury and be 80% in the playoffs.

Sounds like a good strategy. But maybe they can´t estimate recovery time, because it´s such an uncommon injury and surgery procedure!?

So that a return in time for the playoffs could be in danger. Therfore the idea to do it in the summer...

EVAY
12-23-2014, 08:11 AM
Even if Kawhi thinks he can play because the pain is tolerable, starting in the playoffs at the latest every opponent will slap his hand as much as possible. Nobody would admit it, but thats what I would do probably.

That's where I would come out on it. I personally wouldn't do it, but you can guarantee that every opposing coach will be telling his guys to go after his hands. They will keep them as sore as possible as often as possible.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
12-23-2014, 08:47 AM
So much bitchin. He tore a ligament in his hand. It sucks. But shit happens, much like the crappy schedule the Spurs have had these past two months.

But scar tissue will form and strengthen the ligament naturally. He will probably be out at least another week. He scored 20 pts and had 10 rebounds in a game he played with the injury.

They will probably fit him with a glove or tape the area of the ligament damage to prevent any further injury. Its best to get the surgery in the offseason. Football players play with worse injuries like this all the time. Kawhi's tough. I don't think it will impact his game that much this season.

While playing with this current injury, he was 1 assist away from getting a 5X5 and only 7 players in the last 25 years have gotten.

Pop is just being careful. Anderson has been playing quite well for a rookie in his stead. Gives Pop time to experiment. Once Mills gets back, everything will be fine and I really mean that.

lmbebo
12-23-2014, 09:13 AM
Hard to know what this will mean and recovery time without knowing what ligament was torn! Was it a ligament on the dorsum or palmer aspect? is it a support ligament of the the joints?


Anything else is just speculative...

Ice009
12-23-2014, 09:48 AM
Hard to know what this will mean and recovery time without knowing what ligament was torn! Was it a ligament on the dorsum or palmer aspect? is it a support ligament of the the joints?


Anything else is just speculative...

Do you know a little bit about these types of things? If so, what are your thoughts?

bulakenyo
12-23-2014, 10:21 AM
This site is such a downer sometimes.

ElNono
12-23-2014, 10:21 AM
gws kiwi

buttsR4rebounding
12-23-2014, 10:30 AM
Front office should have used the MLE on a backup wing during the summer. Did they really think Belinelli was more than sufficient for that role, especially after his disastrous post-season performance?

Of course, with the full MLE available the Spurs could be an attractive option for Josh Smith assuming he clears waivers as a rent-a-player.

Amuseddaysleeper
12-23-2014, 10:57 AM
Kawhi doesn't seem to be in too much pain as he himself felt he would only be out a few days.

Hopefully he will be back sooner than later and it won't hamper him as bad as we fear.

Floyd Pacquiao
12-23-2014, 11:19 AM
FUCK

Russ
12-23-2014, 12:10 PM
Fuck, we need to trade for a solid backup SF, ASAFUCKINGP.

No need to panic. Good news

No "solid backup SF" will do the Spurs any good at all if Kawhi is gone. :)

Leetonidas
12-23-2014, 12:10 PM
If that faggot Kobe can play through a torn ligament for years I'm sure Kawhi will be fine. Some of y'all cliff jumping in this thread are hilarious :lmao

Floyd Pacquiao
12-23-2014, 12:14 PM
This season is finished

Leetonidas
12-23-2014, 12:24 PM
^:lmao

Chomag
12-23-2014, 01:24 PM
Spurs FO being sneaky to get out of signing a max contract. :stirpot:

lmbebo
12-23-2014, 01:25 PM
Do you know a little bit about these types of things? If so, what are your thoughts?

Depends if its a collateral ligament, is it a trigger finger (might be a tendon issue), is it a finger issue, if so which finger?. Can't say anything really except its a weird hand ligament injury.

Everything from the spurs has been very vague. Maybe its a stenner lesion? I got no clue.

daslicer
12-23-2014, 01:59 PM
The way the spurs have handled this reminds me so much of Duncan's injury in 2000. At first they said it wasn't serious and there was nothing to worry about and as the playoffs started it was only then they announced Duncan was out with a torn meniscus.

r0drig0lac
12-23-2014, 02:07 PM
This season is finished

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smidepressed.gif

FireMicoHalili
12-23-2014, 02:35 PM
Front office should have used the MLE on a backup wing during the summer. Did they really think Belinelli was more than sufficient for that role, especially after his disastrous post-season performance?
easy to say this when you've got the benefit of hindsight

FireMicoHalili
12-23-2014, 02:37 PM
if he does miss the season, Josh Smith for the remaining portion of the MLE for just one year doesn't sound so bad, but the spacing will be problematic

Arcadian
12-23-2014, 02:37 PM
If he's able to play defense and rebound at his healthy level, the Spurs will be fine. They have enough offense where they don't need to rely on Leonard scoring 15-20 points per game. And he should be able to play through this injury. Torn labrums and such are often played through and then repaired later on in the off-season.

Kawhi shouldn't experience too much, if any, drop off in his play if he's able to play through the pain (his 3 point shooting will probably suffer some). My guess is it's a swelling issue keeping him out of the lineup.

That would have been true last season, but this was supposed to be the year when Kawhi took a larger offensive role and became more of a focal point. At the very least, we'll need his 3-point shooting. And for a guy whose signature move is a steal-fastbreak-dunk, I don't want him running around an entire season with a fucked up hand. That cannot end well.

spurs10
12-23-2014, 07:15 PM
It's hard to tell what the real prognosis is on his hand and whether it will limit him when he returns. Maybe it's something that won't fully heal without surgery, but he can operate close to 100% once the swelling goes down. Patty played the best basketball in his life with what might have been a much worse injury.

Mikeanaro
12-23-2014, 07:46 PM
If that faggot Kobe can play through a torn ligament for years I'm sure Kawhi will be fine. Some of y'all cliff jumping in this thread are hilarious :lmao
Yeah that was I thinking yesterday, Klobes spent 2 years in pain winning championships and playing for the NT so KL should use a brace play and stfu.

daslicer
12-23-2014, 07:50 PM
Yeah that was I thinking yesterday, Klobes spent 2 years in pain winning championships and playing for the NT so KL should use a brace play and stfu.

The only problem is Kobe has been known to fake and lie about injuries in the past.

Mikeanaro
12-23-2014, 08:15 PM
The only problem is Kobe has been known to fake and lie about injuries in the past.
It could be dude got 48mil to brick and sell jerseys but Patty´s injury was real, Steph Curry, Nash all those guys play thru pain.
Anyway he could go to the knife right now and be ready for march.

SnakeBoy
12-23-2014, 09:50 PM
My inside sources say it's just a bruise, Pop is just trolling OKC and Kawhi will miraculously be healed on Christmas day.

look_at_g_shred
12-23-2014, 09:57 PM
Kawhi was signing autographs and shaking hands today with fans with no sort of brace or tape on his hand.

LakerHater
12-23-2014, 10:04 PM
My inside sources say it's just a bruise, Pop is just trolling OKC and Kawhi will miraculously be healed on Christmas day.

:lol

james evans
12-23-2014, 10:28 PM
Mind games. Do you think if the future of our franchise was seriously hurt that bad(and i'm not saying he isn't hurt) that popovich would be blabbing it all to the media?

Amuseddaysleeper
12-23-2014, 11:06 PM
If there is any silver lining to this, it will be like the Patty Mills thing and Spurs will get Kawhi at a slight discount.


Maybe.

look_at_g_shred
12-23-2014, 11:51 PM
If there is any silver lining to this, it will be like the Patty Mills thing and Spurs will get Kawhi at a slight discount.


Maybe.
Thanks a lot bro. (Mad emoji)

spurs10
12-23-2014, 11:52 PM
My inside sources say it's just a bruise, Pop is just trolling OKC and Kawhi will miraculously be healed on Christmas day. Did you get this information at the airport?

wildchild
12-24-2014, 01:08 AM
If there is any silver lining to this, it will be like the Patty Mills thing and Spurs will get Kawhi at a slight discount.


Maybe.

His hand injury is rare but not a career-ending injury and it seems like the Spurs explained him why they didn't max him yet.
He said in november "I was never upset about the extension. They explained to me what their deal is and why they didn't do it yet"

If however the Spurs don't offer him a max contract and his agent fails to find a max offer from other team, Kawhi could accept his qualifying offer to hit the market in 2016 after having played one post-surgery season.

Ice009
12-24-2014, 01:30 AM
I really, really hope Kawhi is alright.

If he can't make the injury worse, I'm sure he's going to play through it.

Ice009
12-24-2014, 01:30 AM
Kawhi was signing autographs and shaking hands today with fans with no sort of brace or tape on his hand.

What was this for? Some kind of Christmas event?

hater
12-24-2014, 02:03 AM
Dis team will still go as far as MVP Parker takes em. Lets move on..

marinoman
12-24-2014, 03:09 AM
Mind games. Do you think if the future of our franchise was seriously hurt that bad(and i'm not saying he isn't hurt) that popovich would be blabbing it all to the media?
I actually was thinking this, along with Belichick they give the fans and media as close to nothing as possible

Sean Cagney
12-24-2014, 03:53 AM
I really, really hope Kawhi is alright.

If he can't make the injury worse, I'm sure he's going to play through it.
Yeah if it is that bad we are screwed Ice :( I hope he is able to go soon and healthy, if not the repeat could be officially thrown out because he is a HUGE piece to our team whether some admit it or not. The Spurs are deep and will make the playoffs without him 100% and maybe win a round or two, but I don't see them winning a title without Kawhi at near 100% TBH.

apalisoc_9
12-24-2014, 04:25 AM
Yeah if it is that bad we are screwed Ice :( I hope he is able to go soon and healthy, if not the repeat could be officially thrown out because he is a HUGE piece to our team whether some admit it or not. The Spurs are deep and will make the playoffs without him 100% and maybe win a round or two, but I don't see them winning a title without Kawhi at near 100% TBH.

huge is an understatement.

Sean Cagney
12-24-2014, 04:26 AM
huge is an understatement.

Please do not remind me, that is our repeat right there if he is hurt and can't be near 100% the rest of the year. Some can say we are deep and have faith or stay positive all they want to, but to be honest if he is out long term they are flat out screwed as far as any title shot goes.

phxspurfan
12-24-2014, 05:06 AM
Well at least we know someone won't be getting max offers this offseason

ceperez
12-24-2014, 06:40 AM
Without Leonard, are the Spurs desperate enough to sign Josh Smith or AK47?

ceperez
12-24-2014, 06:51 AM
Leonard broke the same right hand last season: http://www.nba.com/2014/news/01/24/spurs-leonard-out.ap/

Tiago was out too.

I hope this is not a recurring situation.

look_at_g_shred
12-24-2014, 08:26 AM
What was this for? Some kind of Christmas event?
Yes

SnakeBoy
12-24-2014, 09:04 AM
Did you get this information at the airport?

No, I have a friend who works with a guy who's son is a cashier at the Twin Liquors that Pop buys wine at.

Richie
12-24-2014, 09:13 AM
I think people are overreacting to this. The only thing it has affected so far is his shooting, his defence will still be there and that's what we need most. We can win a title with Kawhi as a role player as long his defence is at an elite level.

NASpurs
12-24-2014, 11:06 AM
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Anderson-Green-may-defend-Durant-5976604.php?t=9b0880a0f7e4660723&cmpid=twitter-premium#/0




Leonard has told some of his closest associates he thinks he will be ready to suit up for the Spurs’ Christmas Day game against the Oklahoma City Thunder despite a torn ligament in the right hand, an injury suffered in the late stages of a Dec. 9 loss to the Jazz.

SpursFan86
12-24-2014, 11:18 AM
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Anderson-Green-may-defend-Durant-5976604.php?t=9b0880a0f7e4660723&cmpid=twitter-premium#/0

On one hand, that's obviously great news...but I hope he's not trying to rush things. I'm assuming he felt like he was ready going into that Portland game, and then he ended up re-injuring it or making it worse.

look_at_g_shred
12-24-2014, 11:19 AM
On one hand, that's obviously great news...but I hope he's not trying to rush things. I'm assuming he felt like he was ready going into that Portland game, and then he ended up re-injuring it or making it worse.
This is the spurs. They never rush anyone back.

Buddy Mignon
12-24-2014, 11:34 AM
I read a quote from Pop that the hand specialist had never seen that injury before in over 20 years of practice... that's a little scary.


Oh please... Kobe played an entire fucking season with the same hand injury.

SpurPadre
12-24-2014, 11:44 AM
Oh please... Kobe played an entire fucking season with the same hand injury.

Kobe's infamous for faking or exaggerating injuries for the drama due to his never-ending but ultimately failing quest to out-MJ the real MJ.

loveforthegame
12-24-2014, 11:54 AM
Leonard can want to play all he wants. He can feel good and feel ready to play. But we all know it's Pops decision in the end.

Capt Bringdown
12-24-2014, 12:46 PM
If Leonard can't get healthy, Spurs have pretty much no shot at repeating. Probably won't even make it to the Conference Finals without him.

Yep. There goes the repeat dreams.

dbreiden83080
12-24-2014, 12:50 PM
If he needs surgery that will keep him out for 3 or 4 months do it now.. He would not be back until basically playoff time but at least he would be healthy.. If the recovery time is much longer than they will have to tape it up and he can deal with it the best he can..

Mr Bones
12-24-2014, 01:55 PM
Oh please... Kobe played an entire fucking season with the same hand injury.

Cool. How did you get access to the MRI? Oh, and what medical school did you attend?

ElNono
12-24-2014, 02:01 PM
Cool. How did you get access to the MRI? Oh, and what medical school did you attend?

Last one is easy: school for faggots

spurs10
12-24-2014, 02:18 PM
No, I have a friend who works with a guy who's son is a cashier at the Twin Liquors that Pop buys wine at. Good enough for me! I sure hope he 's right. Mainly because they are not going to let him play if he is not good to go.

SnakeBoy
12-24-2014, 02:39 PM
Good enough for me! I sure hope he 's right. Mainly because they are not going to let him play if he is not good to go.

:lol

I'm just making shit up man.

KL2
12-25-2014, 02:00 PM
Leonard can still use his left hand to make an impact on defense, that's what he did against Denver, all his blocks/steals were with his left, he's that good. Who knows how much his offense will fall off though. Mills needs to come back strong to carry some of the load.

Mal
12-25-2014, 04:04 PM
With Bonner o ther floor we cant rebound

wildchild
12-25-2014, 04:30 PM
The only thing it has affected so far is his shooting, his defence will still be there and that's what we need most. We can win a title with Kawhi as a role player as long his defence is at an elite level.

Kawhi wasn't a role player in crucial games last playoffs. His offense in the first three quarters in game 6 and the last three games of Finals pushed the team to win the title.

We didn't win a ring with him playing as role player and sadly we won't...

BillMc
12-25-2014, 06:19 PM
If I understood them correctly (had the sound low, so could be wrong) they mentioned during the Christmas game that Kawhi is still having trouble palming a basketball. Given Leonard's hand size that doesn't sound good.

Sean Cagney
12-26-2014, 01:53 AM
If I understood them correctly (had the sound low, so could be wrong) they mentioned during the Christmas game that Kawhi is still having trouble palming a basketball. Given Leonard's hand size that doesn't sound good.

Nope, does not sound good at all man. This year has been horrible so far for the team injury wise and record wise, surprised they are even 6 games over .500 with all these guys out to be honest. I hoe they can string together some wins but looking at the schedule coming up that will be VERY hard to do. Not what I expected coming off that flawless performance of a title run but oh well it happens.

Ice009
12-26-2014, 02:39 AM
If I understood them correctly (had the sound low, so could be wrong) they mentioned during the Christmas game that Kawhi is still having trouble palming a basketball. Given Leonard's hand size that doesn't sound good.

They said he can't grip a ball, shoot, or pretty much do anything with that hand. It doesn't sound good at all.

Texas_Ranger
12-26-2014, 04:09 AM
Spurs without Kawhi will be gonne after the first round.

loveforthegame
12-26-2014, 05:16 AM
The different stories is frustrating.

Leonard last Friday said he'd be ready for the Clippers game. Pop not only shut that down but made it pretty clear he's not returning any time soon. Surgery wasn't needed and now he might need it in the off season. He's listed day to day one minute to out some time the next.

Love Leonard for wanting to play but he can't even catch, dribble, or shoot with that hand?

The whole thing sounds fucked up.

Ice009
12-26-2014, 07:15 AM
I have no idea why there is not more posts in this thread or why it hasn't blown up. People should be questioning what is going on. I know I am.

Like Loveforthegame said, the different stories are beginning to get very frustrating. They're especially frustrating me. If Kawhi said he's ready to go, I don't understand why he would say that if he can't grip or shoot the ball like the commentators said in last night's game? Is that story a lie? What the F is going on?

look_at_g_shred
12-26-2014, 08:46 AM
Read a tweet from Dan McCarney saying that Pop said kawhi could return tomorrow, next week, next month, or more. One good sign is that he can't injure it further.

Shastafarian
12-26-2014, 09:43 AM
If I understood them correctly (had the sound low, so could be wrong) they mentioned during the Christmas game that Kawhi is still having trouble palming a basketball. Given Leonard's hand size that doesn't sound good.

They did say that. They also reported on what ligament he tore (which I hadn't seen before). Unfortunately it sounds like it's the carpal tunnel ligament. The "transverse carpal ligament".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Gray423.png

Not exactly a tiny collateral ligament or something that will heal easily.

BillMc
12-26-2014, 10:44 AM
They said he can't grip a ball, shoot, or pretty much do anything with that hand. It doesn't sound good at all.


They did say that. They also reported on what ligament he tore (which I hadn't seen before). Unfortunately it sounds like it's the carpal tunnel ligament. The "transverse carpal ligament".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Gray423.png

Not exactly a tiny collateral ligament or something that will heal easily.

Cheers guys, thanks for the updates.

It doesn't sound promising. The Spurs are famous for misinformation, so it is hard to know what to believe. For all I know he could play tonight or they could decide to do the surgery in season and he could be done until March. No idea.

Pop's information games are frustrating. You simply have to look at his discussion on Boris after the OKC game. First his line was "he's healthy, we just held him out so he could play the second half of the back to back." Then, for whatever reason, Pop seemed to think that wouldn't fly, or looked like he wasn't trying to win the Christmas game, or maybe the answer implied he was disciplining Boris. So, then he immediately added that he wasn't healthy and had a 100 degree temperature. It was a rare showing of Pop changing media relations strategy mid interview. But, it shows clearly that he does do it, that he views the media in an adversarial way and that you have to take what the Spurs say on injuries, rest and game strategy with a grain of salt. Someone mentioned Danny annoys Pop with how much he talks to the media. I believe it. He's always available, always fairly open. It's one of the reasons I like Danny, he gives us a good window into our team's world. But Pop would prefer to keep that window closed and a bit cloudy. Not really critical of Pop, he's a damn great coach, but as a fan it can be frustrating. And we're seeing that with the Kawhi injury spin.

loveforthegame
12-26-2014, 11:39 AM
I wonder how - or if - this affects this summer.

apalisoc_9
12-26-2014, 01:29 PM
The different stories is frustrating.

Leonard last Friday said he'd be ready for the Clippers game. Pop not only shut that down but made it pretty clear he's not returning any time soon. Surgery wasn't needed and now he might need it in the off season. He's listed day to day one minute to out some time the next.

Love Leonard for wanting to play but he can't even catch, dribble, or shoot with that hand?

The whole thing sounds fucked up.

Probably trying to find a way to lower the prize, but I doubt other teams are falling for this trick

apalisoc_9
12-26-2014, 01:34 PM
If it's really the transverse carpal ligament, then the spurs are screwed. I've had a similar injury in the past and although you can play with it, it's not exactly a good experience. Pretty sure, you can still Palm the ball, and do everything once your hand gets warm..The problem is after the game. Everytime you play, it is as if you just got the injury.

Ouch.

Baam
12-26-2014, 02:55 PM
Hm starting to sound scary tbh, if Beli starts at the 3 in the POs we may have well not even play the series...

SupremeGuy
12-26-2014, 03:30 PM
Every time I come here, it seems his injury has gotten worse. lol Everyone just chill out, in typical Pop fashion, he's taken a small but painful injury and convinced you guys that Kawhi is on his death bed. They're probably just waiting for January and then I expect everyone to be back.

dabom
12-26-2014, 03:44 PM
Every time I come here, it seems his injury has gotten worse. lol Everyone just chill out, in typical Pop fashion, he's taken a small but painful injury and convinced you guys that Kawhi is on his death bed. They're probably just waiting for January and then I expect everyone to be back.

BackHome
12-26-2014, 03:56 PM
He will play when he can play and all we can hope for is that other players will step up until he gets back.

Ice009
12-26-2014, 05:30 PM
If it's really the transverse carpal ligament, then the spurs are screwed. I've had a similar injury in the past and although you can play with it, it's not exactly a good experience. Pretty sure, you can still Palm the ball, and do everything once your hand gets warm..The problem is after the game. Everytime you play, it is as if you just got the injury.

Ouch.

Are you serious? You've had the same injury?

How long did it take to heal? Did you have to have surgery? If so, what was the recovery time?

apalisoc_9
12-26-2014, 05:48 PM
Are you serious? You've had the same injury?

How long did it take to heal? Did you have to have surgery? If so, what was the recovery time?

I have no idea If I have the same injury. I'm just going by Shatsfarians words...We don't know Leonard's inury.

But I didn't play any ball for over a month. When I got back to playing, it was still painful but tolerable..Once the hands gets warm, you wouldn't really notice the pain.

In about two months time I didn't feel the pain anymore, but It was obvious I didn't have the same Strength in terms of Grip..

I got fully healed after about 4 months..That's when I started to feel " Normal".

Again, we don't know if Kawhi has the same injury..If he does, that might be a good thing since that means he can be fully healed come playoff time...Maybe even sooner with better Medical access.

Keep in mind though, I played like once a week so that might have helped me recover faster.

I didn't get surgery.

GrandeDavid
12-26-2014, 06:32 PM
And against the freaking weak Jazz. I think he'll end up done for the season.

apalisoc_9
12-26-2014, 06:38 PM
And against the freaking weak Jazz. I think he'll end up done for the season.

shut up faggot

Nathan89
12-26-2014, 06:44 PM
Probably acquire LeBron instead of maxing Kl in the summer. Bring back the diminished Kl on the cheap and hope he can be a solid bench player.

wildchild
12-26-2014, 10:06 PM
Probably trying to find a way to lower the prize

They have already found the way, keep him playing injured, no-surgery until the summer...

Capt Bringdown
12-26-2014, 10:14 PM
Spurs without Kawhi will be gonne after the first round.

Or, maybe won't make the playoffs

Chomag
12-26-2014, 10:27 PM
If its as bad as it sounding I think they should get the surgery now. Doing this game to game shit is not helping Spurs or KL right now. But honestly the whole story sounds fishy to me the way info keeps coming out. So much strange misinformation. I hope its not to bring down his value, that would be kind of wrong lol

TheGreatYacht
05-05-2015, 09:03 PM
So what's gonna happen, tbh? He better not be holding back on the surgery because of Free Agency. The sooner this nigga goes under the knife, the better.

Robz4000
05-05-2015, 09:33 PM
They said it was a possibility, not a necessity. The way his shooting came around the second half of the season outside Games 5-7 suggests he's fine.