Russell Westbrook<3

[Malik Hairston]

It's an honor to watch him play basketball, tbh, wish he was our starting PG:(..

[timtonymanu]

Best PG in the league, tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

You beat me to it, man.

I was going to make a smiliar thread.

Such a joy to watch this guy play. In terms of talent and overall ability..Only Davis, Lebron, Durant are in the same league.

Such a warrior too...

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

He's a beast.

[Nathan89]

He's great but I'm not sucking his dick. I'll leave that to you.

[UZER]

You beat me to it, man.

I was going to make a smiliar thread.

Such a joy to watch this guy play. In terms of talent and overall ability..Only Davis, Lebron, Durant are in the same league.

Such a warrior too...

...And such a bitch.

[Malik Hairston]

Even if you dislike his style of play, there's no denying that he literally always gives 100% effort on every single play, it's beautiful to watch..

[boutons_deux]

little bitch ass needs get his ass laid out hard, many times, no more layups

[BatManu20]

Huge douche who happens to be an all-time talent at basketball. Unfortunately, he's just entering his prime, too.

[ElNono]

Stud, tbh... he has to spend so much energy out there, it would be crazy if OKC has better talent around him...

[UZER]

Even if you dislike his style of play, there's no denying that he literally always gives 100% effort on every single play, it's beautiful to watch..

And he's a bitch too

[Darius Bieber]

He's a beast tbh. Eats Parker for breakfast.

[Malik Hairston]

And he's a bitch too

Most fans considered Bruce to be a bitch, tbh, we still loved him, though..

[Dverde]

I think dude has a year left before his body goes out on him. OKC better cash in this year.

[boutons_deux]

Adams destroyed TD. Adams was so much better today than last year.

[timtonymanu]

Westbrook is refreshing to watch since other star PGs become playoff chokers.

[DMC]

He's not that great. He's an all or nothing guy, like Kobe. He'll cost the team when it matters.

[Southwest Texas Fan]

Even if you dislike his style of play, there's no denying that he literally always gives 100% effort on every single play, it's beautiful to watch..

And so does Manu.

[RD2191]

He'll fucking suck once his athleticism starts to go. A mini Lebron if you will.

[UZER]

Most fans considered Bruce to be a bitch, tbh, we still loved him, though..

I'm referring to his literal bitching after every play.

[hommeaetage]

Even if you dislike his style of play, there's no denying that he literally always gives 100% effort on every single play, it's beautiful to watch..

This. Sometimes he chucks it up a lot, but the guy gives a 100% every play. That can't be said about some of our players

[unleashbaynes]

Never seen a player like him, and yeah it sucks watching him beast and do his celebrations against us but what can you do? Just an amazing talent, endless motor, ultimate competitor...

Really liked Adams today too, the man tore us up inside.....

[Brunodf]

As long as he keeps the ball away from Durant come playoff time

[Chomag]

Dude is dumb as a stump Basketball wise but He plays with effort on every play in every game, something I wish our players would do more of. Having said that I cant stand the guy and he has always been one of my most hated nba players that are currently playing.

Got to give the credit where it's due though.

[tony77]

I'm referring to his literal bitching after every play.


he'll shrug his shoulders when a call doesn't go his way. acts like a 10 year old spoiled kid

[elemento]

Honestly, It's just an athletic freak taking advantage of facing an old team that can't stop him with ref help. It's exciting to watch an athletic freak, but he still plays stupid basketball to me.

When he actually faces a young team that can check him defensively, like Memphis, you'll see the real Westbrook.

25ppg on 23 shots, 38%FG, 23% from deep and 5 TOs.

He will continue to take Durant's shots when it matters that will cost OKC games, playoff series and probably titles.

Personally, I would never want a player like him in a SA jersey. I'd rather boring/smart/fundamental BB.

[Malik Hairston]

Honestly, It's just an athletic freak taking advantage of facing an old team that can't stop him with ref help. It's exciting to watch an athletic freak, but he still plays stupid basketball to me.

When he actually faces a young team that can check him defensively, like Memphis, you'll see the real Westbrook.

25ppg on 23 shots, 38%FG, 23% from deep and 5 TOs.

He will continue to take Durant's shots when it matters that will cost OKC games, playoff series and probably titles.

Personally, I would never want a player like him in a SA jersey. I'd rather boring/smart/fundamental BB.

He's actually having an amazing season, tbh, nothing to do with the Spurs matchup..

And Westbrook was much, much better than Dominos in last year's playoffs, tbh..

[lefty]

It's an honor to watch him play basketball, tbh, wish he was our starting PG:(..

Troof bombs

[lefty]

He's a beast tbh. Eats Parker for breakfast.

Of course

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

Interesting stat...RB zero fouls.... Zero...complaints to refs 74....

[Sean Cagney]

Glad he is on my fantasy team but hate to lose to the guy. He is very good.

[lefty]

Even if you dislike his style of play, there's no denying that he literally always gives 100% effort on every single play, it's beautiful to watch..

Also true

[TheGreatYacht]

http://youtu.be/7QZ5fMqPx9w

Harlem probably records every Lakers game :lol
"I go 100% too :( " - Kobe

[RD2191]

http://youtu.be/7QZ5fMqPx9w

Harlem probably records every Lakers game :lol
"I go 100% too :( " - Kobe
TGY spittin truth.

[TheGreatYacht]

TGY spittin truth.
:toast

[spurtech09]

Of courseall the way to dinner

[100%duncan]

And yet media and casual fans will blame hin once durant chokes in the playoffs this season

[apalisoc_9]

Russell is in no shape or form the same as Kobe..Kobe puts his 100% effort in scoring only. Russ is a different animal.

[UZER]

Respect RBs effort, but a lot of it is misplaced. And yes he's a beast, but he's a dumb ass beast.

[Budkin]

The way he relies on the refs is just an amazing sight to behold.

[FkLA]

Russell is in no shape or form the same as Kobe..Kobe puts his 100% effort in scoring only. Russ is a different animal.

+1

He was a monster on defense too tbh.

[tlongII]

I'd rather have Lillard.

[apalisoc_9]

I'd rather have Lillard.

not even a top 30 player in the league

[phxspurfan]

He reminds me of 2005/2006 D Wade.

[DMC]

This. Sometimes he chucks it up a lot, but the guy gives a 100% every play. That can't be said about some of our players
Sorry, running out of control with a "kill whitey" attitude isn't the 100% teams need. Sometimes the 100% includes getting teammates involved and actually playing solid basketball, not just trying to be a hero. Unfortunately most fans seem to prefer the heroics over the actual basketball fundamental play.

[DMC]

Russell is in no shape or form the same as Kobe..Kobe puts his 100% effort in scoring only. Russ is a different animal.

Only in stature. Kobe can get 20 assists a game if he wanted because he's always going to have the ball. We saw that a couple or so years back. Guys who have to touch the ball on every possession are cancers to their team unless they are big men in the middle like Shaq or TD.

[DJR210]

Russell is an annoying, ugly ninja turtle looking bastard, but the guy is lethal.

He is a threat everyone he has the ball. He's either scoring off the drive, or getting sent to the line, 99% of the time.

[spursparker9]

Probably the best 1 on 1 player on the PG position.

Yes Westbrook chuck up shots but it doesn't matter the shot went in or not because you know he will keep coming at you the next possession.

His unlimited stamina and athleticism are his biggest weapons

[hommeaetage]

Sorry, running out of control with a "kill whitey" attitude isn't the 100% teams need. Sometimes the 100% includes getting teammates involved and actually playing solid basketball, not just trying to be a hero. Unfortunately most fans seem to prefer the heroics over the actual basketball fundamental play.

The problem Westbrook has is he takes a lot of ill advised shots and doesn't involve his teammates as much for a PG. This problem could have been solved easily had he been under a better coach. Otherwise his energy and effort isn't something you can question. Our PG Parker isn't better either at involving teammates

[SnakeBoy]

TP is a ball hog, I wish we had Westbrook.

lol the takes on here sometimes

[Malik Hairston]

TP is a ball hog, I wish we had Westbrook.

lol the takes on here sometimes

Parker being a ballhog isn't the problem..the problem is that he is just an above average player nowadays..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

One of the best PG, no doubt... but on the Spurs? Not a chance.

[Juggity]

:lol anyone who thinks Westbrook is a better player or has more impact on the game than Durant. Just a bottom-tier opinion. Surely we haven't forgotten the DoK's PG theory already...

[exstatic]

Respect RBs effort, but a lot of it is misplaced. And yes he's a beast, but he's a dumb ass beast.

Exactly. Even tonight, they're up 6 with about a minute and a half left and he goes 1on 3 to the rim and misses. At that point time is WAY more important than padding the score and your stats. That stupidity can cost you a close playoff game.

[horsielove]

I really, really like Westbrook. Him and Perry Jones are the only players I cheer in OKC.

[J_Paco]

Sorry, running out of control with a "kill whitey" attitude isn't the 100% teams need. Sometimes the 100% includes getting teammates involved and actually playing solid basketball, not just trying to be a hero. Unfortunately most fans seem to prefer the heroics over the actual basketball fundamental play.

Lord, I have to agree with DMC for once. Westbrook is an incredible talent, but talent alone doesn't make you a great player or a championship caliber team. I would take John Wall (just as athletic and a purer PG), Damien Lillard (more heady and mature game) and Stephen Curry before Russ. The refs bailed him out a ton in the first half until he had it rolling in the second and the Spurs didn't help matters with terrible execution down the stretch.

[spurraider21]

he was a monster in the 2nd half. i gained a lot of respect for WB the player during/after the WCF last year. i yearn for the days when Parker would outplay him regularly...

[J_Paco]

he was a monster in the 2nd half. i gained a lot of respect for WB the player during/after the WCF last year. i yearn for the days when Parker would outplay him regularly...

Tony doesn't have the same level of speed and quickness to negate or bother Westbrook. He matches up well against most any other PGs in the league, except the uber athletic types like Westbrook, Rose and Wall. Hopefully Tony can make him work a lot more on the defensive end during the next encounter.

[DMC]

The problem Westbrook has is he takes a lot of ill advised shots and doesn't involve his teammates as much for a PG. This problem could have been solved easily had he been under a better coach. Otherwise his energy and effort isn't something you can question. Our PG Parker isn't better either at involving teammates

Well yeah, I did just that. Effort isn't just grinding teeth, white knuckled roid rage. It's mental effort, sacrifice, becoming a better player not just a higher scorer. Running faster, attacking harder, dunking higher, those are athletic efforts. Russ needs mental efforts, sacrifices on the offensive end to get his teammates involved. It's not an effort if it comes naturally to you.

[Malik Hairston]

I used to hate Westbrook and his game, but the strides he made during last year's playoffs helped win me over, tbh..

He had a great run and really outplayed Dominos for that entire stretch, and he was under control for the entire run..sure, he takes poor shots and makes questionable decisions at times, but to be fair, he plays for a terrible coach in the most ISO-centric system in the league..

[hommeaetage]

Well yeah, I did just that. Effort isn't just grinding teeth, white knuckled roid rage. It's mental effort, sacrifice, becoming a better player not just a higher scorer. Running faster, attacking harder, dunking higher, those are athletic efforts. Russ needs mental efforts, sacrifices on the offensive end to get his teammates involved. It's not an effort if it comes naturally to you.

If you don't think Westbrook has become a better player, I don't even need to continue this conversation. Westbrook also plays for a coach who has no clue how to make his team together on the offensive end. So you don't think fighting for loose balls, play passing lanes for steals, going for offensive glass are effort plays? If those come naturally, why does Baynes (who is fairly an athletic guy) put up such a weak output?


I used to hate Westbrook and his game, but the strides he made during last year's playoffs helped win me over, tbh..

He had a great run and really outplayed Dominos for that entire stretch, and he was under control for the entire run..sure, he takes poor shots and makes questionable decisions at times, but to be fair, he plays for a terrible coach in the most ISO-centric system in the league..

This

[Clipper Nation]

Westgawd :worthy:

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Westgawd :worthy:

Maybe if you had Westbrook the Clips would finally win a ri--


:lmao just kidding

[313]

Wow just last year he was "the most easily dislikable player in the NBA" and now this year all you guys are sucking his dick

Christ!

[KL2]

He's definitely better than Parker who is on the decline.

[DarrinS]

FRW

[cjw]

In games like this, you're just not going to beat him when he's hitting circus shots. Need an enforcer. Hope he plays the Clippers before we see him so DeAndre, CP3 and Blake put him on his ass a few times and leave his body beat up (not hurt - I'd only wish that on Adams or Abaka).

[mkurts]

Westbrook destroyed Parker as he said he would

[hooperflash]

He's good, but whenever they would say no one on the Spurs could store him... I couldn't help but keep laughing because our stopper is literally sitting on the bench . See ya next time OKC

[024]

To think, the Thunder could have had 3 legitimate MVPs on the team. Not just "in the conversation" BS but real MVP caliber players.

[apalisoc_9]

He's definitely better than Parker who is on the decline.

[313]

Wow just last year he was "the most easily dislikable player in the NBA" and now this year all you guys are sucking his dick

Christ!

[BackHome]

He's great but I'm not sucking his dick. I'll leave that to you.

OMG..:)

[trollt]

Yeah he's so mmuch better than TP after 15 seasons in the league tbh. Agree w/ tlong Lillard @ 29 y/o will still be filling it up but Russ will be chucking 20 foot clankers twice as much as now b/c he can't dunk on centers anymore

[Brazil]

Op is becoming a huge faggot tbh..

rw rw is a freak of nature and reaching his prime.., that is his main talent that grants him 10 FTs per game. Other than that he is the same chucker he was 3 years ago. he is one of the worst 3 pts shooter of the league but why not taking 3-4 of those each game ?

And im not even gonna start with his clothes and his whinny douche touch

but but he is better than parker... No shit Sherlock

[HI-FI]

He's great but I'm not sucking his dick. I'll leave that to you.
Cosigned

[Malik Hairston]

Damn, he looked great again tonight, tbh..

11 straight games of scoring 25 or more..

[apalisoc_9]

Mainstream Big 3 spurs fan...

"I'll take Tony anyday because he is a smarter player"...:lol

[daslicer]

Russ is better than Tony Parker now that Tony is old and broken. Tony used to dominate Russ up until the last two years. If you don't believe me here is a link that shows their matchups head to head http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=westbru01&p2=parketo01. Parker used to own Russ so badly one on one that the Thunder would have Sefolosha guard him. Case in point is the 2012 WCF in which Parker was great the first two games until Brooks switched Sefolosha on him. This match up is just like how Drob used to own Shaq up until he got old and declined. Russ is now better due to Tony now being out of his prime. Pretty stupid to hate Parker now that he can't match up with a player that is in his prime.

[daslicer]

Op is becoming a huge faggot tbh..

rw rw is a freak of nature and reaching his prime.., that is his main talent that grants him 10 FTs per game. Other than that he is the same chucker he was 3 years ago. he is one of the worst 3 pts shooter of the league but why not taking 3-4 of those each game ?

And im not even gonna start with his clothes and his whinny douche touch

but but he is better than parker... No shit Sherlock

The OP is a super serial troll. This is pretty much a game to him to see how many people he can get to suck his dick by agreeing with him. I'm convinced half of this forum would eat dog shit if he told them it was good for them.

[spurs10]

Yeah ask Westbrook if he'd trade his soul for the Tony Parker's resume. He is more likely to break down than most pg's and has on a repeated basis. Tony has accomplished everything he hasn't. Maybe he will some day but I doubt it.

[Malik Hairston]

Guys, it's 2014, tbh..

The past is the past..of course 2012-2013 Parker was a superstar player, arguably the best PG in the NBA, but times have changed..

If I had said I'd want current James Harden over current Manu, it wouldn't be any different..

[spurs10]

Guys, it's 2014, tbh.. The past is the past..of course 2012-2013 Parker was a superstar player, arguably the best PG in the NBA, but times have changed.. If I had said I'd want current James Harden over current Manu, it wouldn't be any different.. Don't disagree with you there, but we did just win the championship. I just don't know if TP will not rebound from his injury and do his job for us one more time. In the end we've had a lot of blessings. It will be interesting to see if anyone can come close to our success.

[-21-]

Respect RBs effort, but a lot of it is misplaced. And yes he's a beast, but he's a dumb ass beast.

This sums it up quite nicely.

[still.focused]

Hed be alot better if he had a coach or OKC having an NBA offense
A lot of the dumb shit he does comes a a result of not having either

[Brazil]

It's an honor to watch him chuck 5-21 tbh... :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

It's an honor to watch him chuck 5-21 tbh... :cry
"He goes hard all the time :( "

... :lmao

[gilmor]

Guys, it's 2014, tbh..

The past is the past..of course 2012-2013 Parker was a superstar player, arguably the best PG in the NBA, but times have changed..

If I had said I'd want current James Harden over current Manu, it wouldn't be any different..

Time for you to switch team.. go support OKC or the Rockets..

[Brazil]

<3

:lmao

it's an honor to watch a fucking chimp relying on his athleticism making MUSD every fucking day chucking a nice .438 including 66 3s attempts in 21 games converting a fantastic 18 of them...

Buffon

[FkLA]

I know you're frustrated bc Enrique has become a broken down, soft, French vagina but that's no excuse for that kind of language, Brazil. Racism is disgusting, shame on you tbh.

[Johnny RIngo]

It's an honor to watch him chuck 5-21 tbh... :cry

Just like it was an honor to watch Tony chuck 6-23 in game 6 of the NBA Finals.

[Brazil]

I know you're frustrated bc Enrique has become a broken down, soft, French vagina but that's no excuse for that kind of language, Brazil. Racism is disgusting, shame on you tbh.

This thread has nothing to do with Enrique... do you ever post anything related to Spurs / NBA without mentioning Enrique soft vagina tbh ?

I'm using here chimp to point out a guy relying on athleticism in that case Westbrook nothing related to skin color. You are picking the wrong angle to going at me, I'm challenging you to demonstrate I'm racist but it's in line with your new schtick... guardian of christian values I guess (see Mitch's daughter death, Stuart Scott death... ).

[Brazil]

Just like it was an honor to watch Tony chuck 6-23 in game 6 of the NBA Finals.

Brah go post on a Parker thread... we are talking about Westbrook.

Besides not sure what's your point... Westbrook is a career .433 shooter with a fantastic .30 at 3 pt line Parker is .495 career guy

[100%duncan]

Brah go post on a Parker thread... we are talking about Westbrook.

Besides not sure what's your point... Westbrook is a career .433 shooter with a fantastic .30 at 3 pt line Parker is .495 career guy

Good having you back. Had a hard time defending TP here alone brah :lol

[Brazil]

^ I'm defending Parker a bit so that the usual suspects can have a bit of fun and not spend their time speaking to themselves.

Parker sucked so far badly and his injury is annoying. He will be back soon and do his stuff. He has always responded positively to a rough stretch in his career.

[100%duncan]

^ I'm defending Parker a bit so that the usual suspects can have a bit of fun and not spend their time speaking to themselves.

Parker sucked so far badly and his injury is annoying. He will be back soon and do his stuff. He has always responded positively to a rough stretch in his career.

I've done my part shitting on our pg too but that's because he really sucks this year. A healthy enrique would be the end of the NBA tbh.

[Brazil]

I've done my part shitting on our pg too but that's because he really sucks this year.

Yes he does


A healthy enrique would be the end of the NBA tbh.

not quite but yeaj that would be important for the team. Manu and Tim need help carrying the load urgent

[Johnny RIngo]

Brah go post on a Parker thread... we are talking about Westbrook.

Besides not sure what's your point... Westbrook is a career .433 shooter with a fantastic .30 at 3 pt line Parker is .495 career guy

Parker's a nice regular season player - no doubt about that. Too bad he can't keep that efficiency up in the playoffs:

Season Efficiency:
.551 TS% - Parker
.524 TS% - Westbrook

Playoff Efficiency:
.519 TS% - Westbrook
.518 TS% - Parker

Steep drop for Tony. He goes from much more efficient than Westbrook in the season to worse than him come playoff time. Not that surprising that the Spurs have never repeated when they have such an unreliable player as one of their primary scorers. The choking gene is strong in the Frenchman.

[100%duncan]

Parker's a nice regular season player - no doubt about that. Too bad he can't keep that efficiency up in the playoffs:

Season Efficiency:
.551 TS% - Parker
.524 TS% - Westbrook

Playoff Efficiency:
.519 TS% - Westbrook
.518 TS% - Parker

Steep drop for Tony. He goes from much more efficient than Westbrook in the season to worse than him come playoff time. Not that surprising that the Spurs have never repeated when they have such an unreliable player as one of their primary scorers. The choking gene is strong in the Frenchman.

.01 :lmao

[Brazil]

Parker's a nice regular season player - no doubt about that. Too bad he can't keep that efficiency up in the playoffs:

Season Efficiency:
.551 TS% - Parker
.524 TS% - Westbrook

Playoff Efficiency:
.519 TS% - Westbrook
.518 TS% - Parker

Steep drop for Tony. He goes from much more efficient than Westbrook in the season to worse than him come playoff time. Not that surprising that the Spurs have never repeated when they have such an unreliable player as one of their primary scorers. The choking gene is strong in the Frenchman.

:lol you are really full of shit brah

your initial post was a come back at me on my Westbrook is a chucker using Parker is a chucker too and now you are using TS%. How TS% is a statistical evidence of a player being a chucker ? Westbrook has an horrible FG% that he compensates with stupid amount of FTs. This just demonstrate if dude was a bit more clever and paying attention to his shooting selection he could have a much higher TS% like Durant at .601

Now what is amazing is despite Westbrook benefitiating from tons of FTs and shooting 3s at a high rate he has the same TS% in POs than Parker who does not shoot 3s and cannot get FTs to save his life.

speaking of backfiring argument


Yes TS% drops between RS and POs for Parker but .518 is still great considering his limitations and the attention he is getting from the defense while being a mediocre athlete that cannot chimp his way to the basket by walking on shorter PGs.

[Johnny RIngo]

.01 :lmao

If there's one thing that Westbrook has going for him, it's that he's consistent with his chucking. Tony's a fool's gold player. Puts up nice reg season numbers but takes a nosedive in overall performance come playoff time. Not very reliable. Compare that to Duncan, Manu, and Leonard who have all proven to be clutch playoff performers(their efficiency doesn't drop off a cliff like Tony's)

[100%duncan]

If there's one thing that Westbrook has going for him, it's that he's consistent with his chucking. Tony's a fool's gold player. Puts up nice reg season numbers but takes a nosedive in overall performance come playoff time. Not very reliable. Compare that to Duncan, Manu, and Leonard who have all proven to be clutch playoff performers(their efficiency doesn't drop off a cliff like Tony's)

I don't care if you shit on Tony, just do it with a proper argument and back it up with stats that ACTUALLY SUPPORT your argument. :lol That first sentence had me laughing for a good 5 seconds tho props.

[Brazil]

If there's one thing that Westbrook has going for him, it's that he's consistent with his chucking. Tony's a fool's gold player. Puts up nice reg season numbers but takes a nosedive in overall performance come playoff time. Not very reliable. Compare that to Duncan, Manu, and Leonard who have all proven to be clutch playoff performers(their efficiency doesn't drop off a cliff like Tony's)

since when being consistent with his chucking is a good thing ? :lmao

Despite the fact he takes a blablabla come PO time Parker has the same TS% than <3 Westbrook...

So your point is what ? Parker is a better RS player by TS% than RW and equals to RW during POs how this a bad thing ? duh

[Johnny RIngo]

Yes TS% drops between RS and POs for Parker but .518 is still great considering his limitations and the attention he is getting from the defense while being a mediocre athlete that cannot chimp his way to the basket by walking on shorter PGs.

.518 TS% is horrible...especially for a primary scoring option. It's like Iverson on lower volume. Still hurts your team(2013 Finals is a good example, 2004 playoffs against Lakers is another one)

[Johnny RIngo]

since when being consistent with his chucking is a good thing ? :lmao

Despite the fact he takes a blablabla come PO time Parker has the same TS% than <3 Westbrook...

So your point is what ? Parker is a better RS player by TS% than RW and equals to RW during POs how this a bad thing ? duh

I wasn't talking about their overall game. You take everything into account(defense, passing, rebounding, impact, etc) and Russell kills Tony in the season and playoffs. I'm only discussing efficiency right now since that's the argument you wanted to make regarding Westbrook. You laughed at his chucking and I proved that his efficiency is comparable to Tony's during the most important part of the year.

[Brazil]

.518 TS% is horrible...especially for a primary scoring option. It's like Iverson on lower volume. Still hurts your team(2013 Finals is a good example, 2004 playoffs against Lakers is another one)

dude you cannot stop saying stupid stuff can you ?

.518 for a PG that don't go to the line for whatever reason and don't shoot the 3 is yes great.

So now we are comparing Iverson with Parker ? I take it for a compliment especially since RS Parker is at .551 TS% and Iverson .518 and PO Parker is at .518 and Iverson .489 knowing that HOFer Allen Iverson carried his team to a NBA final with a .48 TS% while Parker was a big part of 12-13 POs run with a .52 TS%.

Do I have to take from your post that Parker > Iverson tbh ?

[Brazil]

I wasn't talking about their overall game. You take everything into account(defense, passing, rebounding, impact, etc) and Russell kills Tony in the season and playoffs. I'm only discussing efficiency right now since that's the argument you wanted to make regarding Westbrook. You laughed at his chucking and I proved that his efficiency is comparable to Tony's during the most important part of the year.

No dude you are full of shit and I took your hands in the cookie jar. TS% has nothing to do with chucking, chucking is the amount of dumb shots you take, TS% does not measure that. Period.

The fact that an athletic freak like RW getting tons of FTs is not capable to get a higher TS% than Tony freaking Parker is whether a compliment for Parker or a testimony of RW being one of the worst chucker of the league.

[Johnny RIngo]

dude you cannot stop saying stupid stuff can you ?

.518 for a PG that don't go to the line for whatever reason and don't shoot the 3 is yes great.

.518 TS is shit for a point guard who's only notable skill is scoring. Parker isn't a good enough playmaker to make up for that awful efficiency.


So now we are comparing Iverson with Parker ? I take it for a compliment especially since RS Parker is at .551 TS% and Iverson .518 and PO Parker is at .518 and Iverson .489 knowing that HOFer Allen Iverson carried his team to a NBA final with a .48 TS% while Parker was a big part of 12-13 POs run with a .52 TS%.

Do I have to take from your post that Parker > Iverson tbh ?

Not a compliment at all. Iverson's one of the worst cancers in NBA history.

[100%duncan]

:lol

[Johnny RIngo]

No dude you are full of shit and I took your hands in the cookie jar. TS% has nothing to do with chucking, chucking is the amount of dumb shots you take, TS% does not measure that. Period.

The fact that an athletic freak like RW getting tons of FTs is not capable to get a higher TS% than Tony freaking Parker is whether a compliment for Parker or a testimony of RW being one of the worst chucker of the league.


Drawing free throws is a skill. You can't penalize Russell just because he's better at it than Tony.

Also, you like to pretend that Tony's just some unathletic Euro underdog that's gotten by in the NBA based on his skill when that's hardly the case. Tony has mostly depended on his quickness in order to be effective. He was considered the fastest player in the league for quite a few years. With this declining speed, his overall game has diminished as a result.

[ElNono]

You gotta hand it to Russ though... last night, Speights was pushing him around, even kneed him in the mouth... he just got up and kept going at him. Yes, his shot selection can be bad, but you can never doubt the effort and the will to win. Came back early from both of his injuries, even if he had to wear a brace, because he cares about his team, his teammates, etc...

He's probably going to get better (the scary part) before his effectiveness drops off a cliff, like most players that strictly rely on speed and athleticism...

[hater]

:lol chimpbroom destroyed by Elian gonzales

Exposed as the scrub he is imo

[ElNono]

FWIW, Curry is playing at an unbelievable level right now... he's not just a hero shooter anymore, but moving the ball, etc... he looks like the Hornets version of Chris Paul... unfortunately, he's not tough enough to go through an entire playoff run, IMO...

[Brazil]

.518 TS is shit for a point guard who's only notable skill is scoring. Parker isn't a good enough playmaker to make up for that awful efficiency.

So RW is shit and Parker is better than him on TS% with much less chucking and on playmaking skill with an assist / tov ratio of 3,5 vs. 3 for RW and I'm not even talking assist hockey. You good man.


Not a compliment at all. Iverson's one of the worst cancers in NBA history.

A HOFer, MVP that lead a shit squad to nba final but nonetheless a cancer I agree.

Good thing Parker is better than him and not a cancer... better TS%, better assist / ratio, better defender, better teammate :tu. You a good man Johnny DIngo

[Brazil]

You gotta hand it to Russ though... last night, Speights was pushing him around, even kneed him in the mouth... he just got up and kept going at him. Yes, his shot selection can be bad, but you can never doubt the effort and the will to win. Came back early from both of his injuries, even if he had to wear a brace, because he cares about his team, his teammates, etc...

He's probably going to get better (the scary part) before his effectiveness drops off a cliff, like most players that strictly rely on speed and athleticism...

I knew a ElNono a bit more subtle than that but hey... recently it's a good time to be ElNono so let it fly :tu

[hater]

FWIW, Curry is playing at an unbelievable level right now... he's not just a hero shooter anymore, but moving the ball, etc... he looks like the Hornets version of Chris Paul... unfortunately, he's not tough enough to go through an entire playoff run, IMO...

Chimp has no business guarding Elian. If OKC is planning to do that they are getting swept in the playoffs.

[ElNono]

Chimp has no business guarding Elian. If OKC is planning to do that they are getting swept in the playoffs.

Now that the Warriors actually run a system, they're definitely a problem for OKC... OKC lost his best perimeter defender in Thabo over the summer and has not replaced him with anything. You have to wonder if that's the reason they're involved in trades right now...

[ElNono]

I knew a ElNono a bit more subtle than that but hey... recently it's a good time to be ElNono so let it fly :tu

I was talking about Russ, not sure what you mean by subtle, tbh... looks like Ringo rattled you a bit... don't mind him, IMO...

[Brazil]

Drawing free throws is a skill. You can't penalize Russell just because he's better at it than Tony.

Where did I penalize him ? :lol this does not make any sense

You used TS% that includes FT shooting as indicator of chucking, TS% is not an indicator of chucking.

TS% is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account 3pts, 2pts and FTs. On this particular stat, let's sum up:
RS. Parker > RW
POs. Parker = RW

On chucking tho, in RS and POs RW >>>> Parker

see we agree



Also, you like to pretend that Tony's just some unathletic Euro underdog that's gotten by in the NBA based on his skill when that's hardly the case. Tony has mostly depended on his quickness in order to be effective. He was considered the fastest player in the league for quite a few years. With this declining speed, his overall game has diminished as a result.

I'm not pretending he is unathletic... Parker is yes fast but he cannot dunk the ball (they are like what 10 players in the league who cannot dunk the ball), this particularity of being quick for whatever reason (call it lack of talent if you want...) does not help him get FTs. RW in the other hand gets tons of FTs... two explanations possible: dude just bullies people inside and get FTs by his athltecism or dude has a huge BB IQ (like Durant and Dirk) and sell very well fools to the referees, this same huge BB IQ that enables him to have a freaking great shot selection I guess.

[Brazil]

I was talking about Russ, not sure what you mean by subtle, tbh... looks like Ringo rattled you a bit... don't mind him, IMO...

it's not like it would be the first time you go subtle on taking a jab at Parker, we never caught you doing so...

on a side note I'm not sure I understand your "because he cares about his team, his teammates, etc..." Does he care more about his team and teammates than an average nba player ?

He cares like that for instance ?

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2102825/madruss.gif

[ElNono]

it's not like it would be the first time you go subtle on taking a jab at Parker, we never caught you doing so...

on a side note I'm not sure I understand your "because he cares about his team, his teammates, etc..." Does he care more about his team and teammates than an average nba player ?

He cares like that for instance ?

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2102825/madruss.gif

:lol who are "we", tbh?

Of course he cares... he doesn't want to sit in the bench making sulking faces, staring down at teammates... he wants to be out there helping his team... he has a very emotional character, tbh... it can be both good and bad, but you want the guy that cares...

[Brazil]

:lol who are "we", tbh?

Of course he cares... he doesn't want to sit in the bench making sulking faces, staring down at teammates... he wants to be out there helping his team... he has a very emotional character, tbh... it can be both good and bad, but you want the guy that cares...

who are we ? people posting subtle on your quotes... I'm not the only... do you want me to do some research really ?

he doesn't want to sit in the bench making sulking faces, staring down at teammates... Like who ?

you are saying very emotional for childish I guess... He is an immature child... so yeah that's cute and all... and no I would not want to be that guy other than getting the pay day

[Malik Hairston]

Maybe you wouldn't want to have a teammate that behaves like Westbrook, but I'm certain you wouldn't want a teammate that will fuck your wife, either, tbh..

[ElNono]

He's immature... no denying that... but that can be fixed and I'll always take the guy that goes balls out every night, tbh...

You have to look no further than CP3 for a guy that's full of excuses every year... and apparently lost a step too...

[DisAsTerBot]

Maybe you wouldn't want to have a teammate that behaves like Westbrook, but I'm certain you wouldn't want a teammate that will fuck your wife, either, tbh..

eh, more like you wouldn't want a wife that'll fuck your teammate

[hater]

eh, more like you wouldn't want a wife that'll fuck your teammate

:lol was gonna say this tbh

[hater]

He's immature... no denying that... but that can be fixed and I'll always take the guy that goes balls out every night, tbh...

Evita going balls out in 2014 cost us the ship. no you don't want out of control scrubs going buckwild. that's what the coach is for to guide and use strategy to win the game. You can't score 4 points on every play. Wish someone would write this on Evita's locker tbh

[Malik Hairston]

eh, more like you wouldn't want a wife that'll fuck your teammate

Of course, but your teammate is your brother, too..

Tony Parker is a good-looking, famous, French NBA player that could probably pull any pussy he wants, tbh..it speaks on his character that he would have an affair with a teammate's wife..

[hater]

if your wife is trashy enough to fuck your brother then you have a bigger problem than a bad team mate imo :lmao :lol

[Brazil]

Maybe you wouldn't want to have a teammate that behaves like Westbrook, but I'm certain you wouldn't want a teammate that will fuck your wife, either, tbh..

I'd hate a teammate that behaves like westbrook but you're right still better than one fucking your wife... I'd hate even more having a wife cheating on me tho...

[DisAsTerBot]

Of course, but your teammate is your brother, too..

Tony Parker is a good-looking, famous, French NBA player that could probably pull any pussy he wants, tbh..it speaks on his character that he would have an affair with a teammate's wife..

you don't choose your teammates.

[Malik Hairston]

if your wife is trashy enough to fuck your brother then you have a bigger problem than a bad team mate imo :lmao :lol

Well, it's evident that Brent Barry is a cuck, but still:lol..

[hater]

Well, it's evident that Brent Barry is a cuck, but still:lol..

in some circles you might say your mate is doing you a solid. who'd you rather your wife cheat you with, a superstar baller or a brown and broke local gym instructor :lol

[Malik Hairston]

in some circles you might say your mate is doing you a solid. who'd you rather your wife cheat you with, a superstar baller or a brown and broke local gym instructor :lol

:lol..

[Nathan89]

Tony did Brent a favor tbh.

[ElNono]

Evita going balls out in 2014 cost us the ship. no you don't want out of control scrubs going buckwild. that's what the coach is for to guide and use strategy to win the game. You can't score 4 points on every play. Wish someone would write this on Evita's locker tbh

Going balls out didn't cost us a ship... playing badly did. But I'm not sure why you're bringing up a 4x NBA champion and gold medalist in a convo about Westbrook or CP3...

[Brazil]

in some circles you might say your mate is doing you a solid. who'd you rather your wife cheat you with, a superstar baller or a brown and broke local gym instructor :lol

ouch...

:lmao

[ElNono]

in some circles you might say your mate is doing you a solid. who'd you rather your wife cheat you with, a superstar baller or a brown and broke local gym instructor :lol

:lol

[Nathan89]

If Okc offense wasn't so iso reliant then Westbrook wouldn't have the freedom to do most of his bullshit.

[TheGreatYacht]

in some circles you might say your mate is doing you a solid. who'd you rather your wife cheat you with, a superstar baller or a brown and broke local gym instructor :lol
Dead :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

OKC - 83
SAC - 104

Chimpbrook - 10pts, 4ast, 7TO, 3/19fg, -23
Collison - 24pts, 7ast, 3TO, 9/19fg, +25

:lmao Harlem

[spurraider21]

FWIW, Curry is playing at an unbelievable level right now... he's not just a hero shooter anymore, but moving the ball, etc... he looks like the Hornets version of Chris Paul... unfortunately, he's not tough enough to go through an entire playoff run, IMO...
i compared early career Steph Curry to Dallas Mavericks Steve Nash... he's has become a cross of Dallas Nash and Phoenix Nash, albeit a more gifted scorer and not quite the defensive liability

[Clipper Nation]

Alphabrook haters are so antiquated, tbh... their takes are stuck in 2010 :lol

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

:lol Westbrook haters

He's competing every night unlike the PG that keeps sitting out for the Spurs.

[TheGreatYacht]

3/19 alpha

[HI-FI]

You gotta hand it to Russ though... last night, Speights was pushing him around, even kneed him in the mouth... he just got up and kept going at him. Yes, his shot selection can be bad, but you can never doubt the effort and the will to win. Came back early from both of his injuries, even if he had to wear a brace, because he cares about his team, his teammates, etc...

He's probably going to get better (the scary part) before his effectiveness drops off a cliff, like most players that strictly rely on speed and athleticism...
:lol
this is how you do subtlety

[james evans]

It's crazy how the thunder live at the freethrow line against the spurs but when they dont shoot freethrows all game against other teams, they look average

[Robz4000]

in some circles you might say your mate is doing you a solid. who'd you rather your wife cheat you with, a superstar baller or a brown and broke local gym instructor :lol

:rollin

[hater]

3/19 alpha

:lmao

[cjw]

3/19 alpha

Slightly better shooting percentage than that new guy (1/9) who was drafted 4th overall who couldn't even start for his college team.

[TampaDude]

http://youtu.be/7QZ5fMqPx9w

One of my favorite moments as a Spurs fan. :lol

[Cry Havoc]

Alphabrook haters are so antiquated, tbh... their takes are stuck in 2010 :lol

Except for the fact that his BBIQ is still abysmally low.

[taps]

sucks manu cost SA their back2back

[Harry Callahan]

Did anyone notice Ibaka throwing out a moving screen on Kawhi and then "accidently" falling into his legs? Leonard was gimpy going to the bench. Never noticed that before.

The RW brick hypnotized me.

Still one of the great moments in SAS history.

[Mr Bones]

Westbrook is unquestionably talented, but I still wonder about chemistry issues. Everyone on the Thunder team is always denying that there's a problem with his shot selection/# of shots/ball movement/etc., but they're also always talking about it. Durant even brought it up during his speech when he accepted his MVP award. It's obviously not as glaring as the Josh Smith/Detroit situation, but I think it does constantly loom, and with stats coming out about how OKC has the worst assist rate in the NBA (tied with Philadelphia!), the questions are going to remain. I'd still rather watch a team like the Hawks, who play beautiful basketball, but rarely make Sportscenter because their success is based on great fundamentals & great decision-making instead of raw athleticism and flash.

[Malik Hairston]

Russ is a monster, he's in a slump right now after completely carrying the Thunder and playing at a historic level earlier in the season, tbh..too bad that Dominos is always absolved of any blame, despite looking terrible since returning from his injuries..

It also sucks that he receives the blame for being the PG in the worst system in the NBA:lol..

Meanwhile, the Spurs' starting PG can't play with a strained ass cheek:lol..

[TheGreatYacht]

One of my favorite moments as a Spurs fan. :lol
Fuck yeah :lmao

[spurs10]

sucks manu cost SA their back2back Well he almost single handedly won the game for us on June 15, 2014. Show some respect!

[Mr Bones]

Scottie Pippin was a monster too, but he also knew who the #1 guy was. And that's when Pippen was arguably the third or fourth best player in the league. Same with Drexler/Olajuwan, Robinson/Duncan, Worthy/Magic, Bird/McHale, and even the older Shaq when he won the title with Wade in Miami. I think the issue a lot of people have with Westbrook is he too often seems to be challenging Durant for the title of most important player on the team.

[hater]

You just can't win a ship thinking you are better than an obviously much superior teamate. KOBE TRIED it in 2003 and 2004 and it did not go well....

[Brunodf]

Fools believing that Westbrook was the real shit :lol

[jeebus]

Get him for the minimum, why not?

[Robz4000]

Get him for the minimum, why not?

Fuck that, we'll trade them Errors and Daye for him and a first (no protection ofc).

[jeebus]

Fuck that, we'll trade them Errors and Daye for him and a first (no protection ofc).
Get Errors and Daye for the minimum, why not?

[Robz4000]

Get Errors and Daye for the minimum, why not?

Son, I know you're copypasting and all, but don't ever post that again...

[jeebus]

Son, I know you're copypasting and all, but don't ever post that again...
What? I have to. If I don't, someone else will.

[Robz4000]

What? I have to. If I don't, someone else will.

If someone ever posted that with a straight face, they deserve to have their scrotums shaved off by pigeons.

[apalisoc_9]

Russ Is tired IMO..

People don't understand how awful the thunder are offensively and the lack of offensive system in general can really take a toll on your body...Durant was also out for a considerable amount of time.

He has been awful the last 5 games, but I can't blame him..When he is awful it's magnified because no one is out there to cover for him..Durant is out, Curry has Thompson and speights to score, Paul and Blake...

KD is back so that should give russ some rest..I expect him to start playing good basketball next week.

[313]

apal and Malik just going against the grain per the usual lol

Just last season he was "one of the easiest players to hate in the league" but this year they love him.

2/10 stick wih the parker suck shtick

[apalisoc_9]

apal and Malik just going against the grain per the usual lol

Just last season he was "one of the easiest players to hate in the league" but this year they love him.

2/10 stick wih the parker suck shtick

I don't love Russ..

Where do you get that Idea..:lol

Russ is obviously one of the best players in the league, but he has been awful in the last 5 games...if he stays awful, i'll say it...

I say what i see..

[Brazil]

^maybe you can now Harlem ?

13/30 but he gives all :cry
losing to the knicks is not his fault, he gave all :cry

I <3 Westchimp

[Brazil]

I forgot the 4 assists 4 TOs

he is tired imo

scoring 40 with 12 FTs and still losing
taking 2/3 shots more than the other 4 starters :lol

[in2deep]

:lmao wow ppl are stupid

[Mr Bones]

Obviously talented, but I'm not a fan... Super high usage PG who regularly gets into on court arguments with his teammates and sulks on the bench when he's upset... too much drama...

[hater]

Chimp is one of the biggest cancers in the league :lol this thread

[Mr Bones]

The simple fact is that every time Russell gets ready to launch a shot, the opposing team's coaching staff and players think, "Ah, good! Durant's not shooting."

[ElNono]

What is he supposed to do? Durant pussied out again with :cry sore toe :cry, now the responsibility falls squarely on him.

It's not like his teammates got no shots, Perry Jone 0-5, Dion Waiters 3-10, Abaka 3-9...

They just have a very flaky team, tbh... they're extremely top-heavy and now they want to trade Reggie Jackson? What are they doing over there?

[Malik Hairston]

:lol all these posters that didn't watch last year's playoffs..

[Budkin]

http://i.giphy.com/BiewVptPdKOXK.gif

[Mr Bones]

Said Westbrook: “The main problem is, I personally think, since James has left I think everybody thinks we need somebody to fill that slot. The slot doesn’t have to be filled. We have a great team. If everybody does their job, we should be all right.”
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/28/russell-westbrook-says-thunder-dont-need-to-fill-james-hardens-slot/

:lol Queen of denial

[Brazil]

:lol all these posters that didn't watch last year's playoffs..

what this thread has to do with last year POs tbh ?

[Brazil]

What is he supposed to do?

shooting 30 times letting his teammates with 19 FGAs tbh...

<3 :cry

[ElNono]

shooting 30 times letting his teammates with 19 FGAs tbh...

<3 :cry

who else is going to carry the offensive load with Durbeta out? Di:loln Wait:lolrs?

already stated his shot selection is extremely questionable, but that rings especially true when Durant is out there. When he's not, who else is gonna step it up?

they have a coach whose mantra is "we're a foul shooting team", you don't expect that guy to have a system, right? :lol

[Mr Bones]

who else is going to carry the offensive load with Durbeta out? Di:loln Wait:lolrs?

already stated his shot selection is extremely questionable, but that rings especially true when Durant is out there. When he's not, who else is gonna step it up?

they have a coach whose mantra is "we're a foul shooting team", you don't expect that guy to have a system, right? :lol


Yeah, but Westbrook's rep as a guy who takes questionable shots started to really gain momentum after the 2012 finals, when he had Durant AND Harden. The issue for me is he's not the best decision maker, regardless of the situation.

[ElNono]

Yeah, but Westbrook's rep as a guy who takes questionable shots started to really gain momentum after the 2012 finals, when he had Durant AND Harden. The issue for me is he's not the best decision maker, regardless of the situation.

I think that's a valid argument. I know I've brought it up before. Even when they had Kevin Martin, they had a guy that could score. But this team as constructed right now is basically WB and KD... if one of them goes down, they're going to be in trouble. When they both went down, they were the absolute worst team in the West.

[Diego20]

Westbrook > Enrique

but Westbrook wouldn't fit in the Spurs system so..

[Mr Bones]

I think that's a valid argument. I know I've brought it up before. Even when they had Kevin Martin, they had a guy that could score. But this team as constructed right now is basically WB and KD... if one of them goes down, they're going to be in trouble. When they both went down, they were the absolute worst team in the West.

Yeah, agreed. This is why I like the Spurs so much as currently constructed-- they get so much out of their reserve players' abilities: Boris's passing, Mills's shooting, Joseph's defense, etc.,etc.

[Cry Havoc]

What is he supposed to do? Durant pussied out again with :cry sore toe :cry, now the responsibility falls squarely on him.

It's not like his teammates got no shots, Perry Jone 0-5, Dion Waiters 3-10, Abaka 3-9...

They just have a very flaky team, tbh... they're extremely top-heavy and now they want to trade Reggie Jackson? What are they doing over there?

It's the exact same thing with Kobe, Nono.

You can't expect guys who touch the ball once or twice a quarter to have any sort of rhythm. You just can't.

Gasol was a washed up has been who would never be an impact player again for the past 2-3 seasons in LA, right? The narrative was that he was completely finished and should retire. Now, SOME people called that into question saying he couldn't be really assessed considering Kobe never gave him the ball unless it was a bailout situation or he had no other options. NOPE. Worthless, soft player who's now averaging BETTER THAN HIS CAREER AVERAGE in Chicago. There's a fucking MVP thread about him, ffs.

It's almost like the past three years of playoffs ceased to exist and people think that 70% of this team's scoring has always come from Westbrook. That's not the case, they beat us in 2011 because of the role players that were allowed to step up and be threats (and the refs, but what can ya do).

Even when Durant was healthy and lights out, Westbrook was taking most of the shots on this team. That's fucking ludicrous.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400578950

Look at that recent game as an example. KD is shooting pretty well, over 50% for the game. 32 points on 23 shots. Meanwhile Westbrook chucks 26 times for 22 points. All the while, FIVE players on the team get 5 or less shots. NBA players, especially mid-range and out, NEED REGULAR SHOTS to be effective. Are they really going to shoot worse than 27% for the game if they're given looks instead of Chuckbrook firing away every single game?

He's a great player. No denying that. His athleticism is probably top 5 in the League. He's an impact player and plays hard. But he's a total headcase who has serious ego problems and will never ever ever ever defer to his teammate regardless of how well they're playing.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400578885

Durant goes 14-18, but Westbrook has to get his shots. 7-19. :lol Durant scored THIRTY SIX POINTS ON EIGHTEEN SHOTS and Westbrook still took more shots than he did.


The reason I don't fear the Thunder at all this year is because I'm positive that none of their role players will be allowed to do anything in the playoffs as long as Westbrook is on the court. He cares about one thing right now: Being recognized as the best player in the league. He's throwing away any sort of rhythm the team has to do so.

I don't even begrudge him last night, as that was a tough game. But over the long haul, his lack of trust in teammates or ability to allow them to step up and make plays is going to completely fuck them over, especially newer players to the team.

[Brazil]

who else is going to carry the offensive load with Durbeta out? Di:loln Wait:lolrs?

already stated his shot selection is extremely questionable, but that rings especially true when Durant is out there. When he's not, who else is gonna step it up?

they have a coach whose mantra is "we're a foul shooting team", you don't expect that guy to have a system, right? :lol

Like when Durant is here it changes everything :lol

Dude is having 20 FGAs per game including 3,4 FGAs from 3s with a % of .257, Durant is at 17 FGAs

There are 0 excuse or explanation for him to shoot 3,4 3s per game when he is the worst 3 pts shooter of the league....

but but who's gonna carry the load ? :cry

[RD2191]

If Durant weren't such a pussy he'd sit westbrick down and let him know what's up.

[Mr Bones]

Durant just might let him know what's up by leaving in free agency...

[Cry Havoc]

If Durant weren't such a pussy he'd sit westbrick down and let him know what's up.

Can't talk sense into crazy, son. Same thing with Kobe. It doesn't end well. That's what made Jordan the GOAT. He definitely took over games and probably shot too much, but he also realized that he needed to involve his teammates routinely in order to win. Something low BBIQ players like Westbrook will likely never get.

[apalisoc_9]

Russell is a top pg in the league..One of the best.

[ElNono]

It's the exact same thing with Kobe, Nono.

You can't expect guys who touch the ball once or twice a quarter to have any sort of rhythm. You just can't.

There's some differences though. Kobe has been done for 2-3 years already, Westbrook and KD are currently top 10-15 talent in the league. And so they rely heavily on them, more than any system or role players, and they've had pretty good results that way.

What I think they've done wrong lately is put even more work on them. Sefolosha was killing them on offense, but he was the guy that could take a defensive assignment and do it relatively well. Now he's gone and Westbrook has to do that on top of running the offense. It's crazy.

But I'm glad you bring Kobe. If Westbrook would be anything like Kobe, he would've bullshitted his way through a wrist injury and be making excuses why they missed the playoffs because he was "injured". You can dog on WB for his immaturity, poor shot selections, etc, but one thing he doesn't do is quit.

[timtonymanu]

I use to really hate Westbrook and his antics are fucking ridiculous but he's become such an underrated player. I think if Westbrook was put on a team that runs a system, he would be more efficient. Of course, he's gonna chuck up a lot of shots running Scottyball. I can't hate on a PG that can show up in the playoffs too while most of the other star PGs in the league are choking/being shut down. Westbrook's playoff run last year was amazing.

[ElNono]

Like when Durant is here it changes everything :lol

Dude is having 20 FGAs per game including 3,4 FGAs from 3s with a % of .257, Durant is at 17 FGAs

There are 0 excuse or explanation for him to shoot 3,4 3s per game when he is the worst 3 pts shooter of the league....

but but who's gonna carry the load ? :cry

They're 14-7 with Durant. That's 56 wins transposed to a 82 game season. So yeah, Durant not being there does matters. They're not a team that plays :cry the beautiful game :cry, because they're not built that way. They're built top heavy, and unfortunately for them, once either of those guys go down, they're screwed. When they were both injured to start the season, they had a rocking 3-12 record. Why would they give the ball to those guys? :lol

[Mr Bones]

Russell is a top pg in the league..One of the best.

True, but aren't you also one of the proponents of the "PG-centric teams don't win championships" theory? No one questions whether or not he's "good." We question if a highly paid PG who takes some bad shots & takes shots away from Durant is the way to a title.

[Cry Havoc]

But I'm glad you bring Kobe. If Westbrook would be anything like Kobe, he would've bullshitted his way through a wrist injury and be making excuses why they missed the playoffs because he was "injured". You can dog on WB for his immaturity, poor shot selections, etc, but one thing he doesn't do is quit.

Yeah, I can certainly admire Westbrook's work ethic but hate his personality. He's obviously a great individual player but he costs his team games at times.

[Malik Hairston]

what this thread has to do with last year POs tbh ?

This thread is about me being a fan of Westbrook..why would you bump a thread after he has a bad game? It doesn't have anything to do with the point of the thread:lol..

[TD 21]

This thread is about me being a fan of Westbrook..why would you bump a thread after he has a bad game? It doesn't have anything to do with the point of the thread:lol..

I know your thing is backing superstars or stars that receive a lot of criticism, but still, how can you be a fan of the Spurs and a fan of Westbrook?

He plays by far the least aesthetically pleasing style for a player of or above his caliber that I've ever seen. I don't care how insane he is athletically, I can't stand watching him play.

[cjw]

They're 14-7 with Durant. That's 56 wins transposed to a 82 game season.

And a few of those games were Durant getting ramped back up. Problem is assuming they win 67% of games with Durant back, they only get to 47-35. Phoenix would have to go 20-15 or worse.

That said, looking at PHX's schedule it's a VERY tough road ahead. Have to travel to both GS/POR twice and only 11 games against non-competitive teams of the 35 remaining. A downside but possible outcome for them:



8-3
11 games - 6 home / 5 road against non-competitive teams (UTA x2, MIN x2, SAC x2, NYK, BKL, ORL, BOS, DEN)


5-7
12 games - home/away with CHI, HOU, ATL, DAL, NO, SA


2-4
6 games - home/away/away with GS & POR


2-2
4 games - MEM, LAC at home; MIA, CLE on road


0-2
2 games - 2 home vs. OKC (down 2-0, but both losses on road) - if they won both of these, would be a huge swing though put chances pretty low



That would put them at 17-18 without tiebreaker. If they can hold home court against OKC twice, it'll go a long way for them.

[ElNono]

And a few of those games were Durant getting ramped back up. Problem is assuming they win 67% of games with Durant back, they only get to 47-35. Phoenix would have to go 20-15 or worse.

That said, looking at PHX's schedule it's a VERY tough road ahead. Have to travel to both GS/POR twice and only 11 games against non-competitive teams of the 35 remaining.

I said a while back I wasn't convinced OKC would make the playoffs, and partly because of the injury situation with them. They really are extremely top-heavy and I bet they rushed both KD and WB back from their injuries.

[TheGreatYacht]

Durant's numbers last year when Westchimp went down were legendary. Surpassed Jordan in games with atleast 30+ Points in a row...

Oh, and the team was winning. Who did OKC lose to yesterday? :lol

[Brazil]

They're 14-7 with Durant. That's 56 wins transposed to a 82 game season. So yeah, Durant not being there does matters. They're not a team that plays :cry the beautiful game :cry, because they're not built that way. They're built top heavy, and unfortunately for them, once either of those guys go down, they're screwed. When they were both injured to start the season, they had a rocking 3-12 record. Why would they give the ball to those guys? :lol

Where am I saying Durant not being there does not matter ?
Im saying Durant present or not Westbrook Acts the same.
btw when it's Westbrook it's fine cauz he does not have help when it's kobe a sg not a pg takes all the shot he is an horrible teammate... Make up your mind tbh

[Brazil]

This thread is about me being a fan of Westbrook..why would you bump a thread after he has a bad game? It doesn't have anything to do with the point of the thread:lol..

Except you created this thread after a rs 2014-2015 huge game by Westbrook Not because of last year POs and I'm bumping this thread because Westchimp just lost against the freaking Knicks shooting as most of the time horribly.

:cry it's a honor to watch him taking 3,5 3s at a .257 clip worst of the league :cry
<3

damn I hate players fans :cry

[dabom]

Westbrook > Enrique

but Westbrook wouldn't fit in the Spurs system so..

Are you serious?

[Brazil]

There's some differences though. Kobe has been done for 2-3 years already, Westbrook and KD are currently top 10-15 talent in the league. And so they rely heavily on them, more than any system or role players, and they've had pretty good results that way.

What I think they've done wrong lately is put even more work on them. Sefolosha was killing them on offense, but he was the guy that could take a defensive assignment and do it relatively well. Now he's gone and Westbrook has to do that on top of running the offense. It's crazy.

But I'm glad you bring Kobe. If Westbrook would be anything like Kobe, he would've bullshitted his way through a wrist injury and be making excuses why they missed the playoffs because he was "injured". You can dog on WB for his immaturity, poor shot selections, etc, but one thing he doesn't do is quit.


ikr he is such a warrior... He just makes some childish drama once in a while on the bench, thinks he is the new MJ and Ray allen combined...but never quits... That's so beautiful

[ElNono]

Where am I saying Durant not being there does not matter ?
Im saying Durant present or not Westbrook Acts the same.

But he doesn't. You're saying he takes 20 FGA when Durant is there and 30 FGA when he's not. While we can argue whether he should be taking 20 FGA when KD is there, it makes complete sense he'll shoot more when KD isn't there.


btw when it's Westbrook it's fine cauz he does not have help when it's kobe a sg not a pg takes all the shot he is an horrible teammate... Make up your mind tbh

That makes no sense. Kobe has a better player than himself in Swaggy P, who should be taking at least half of his shots. Westbrook doesn't have that in OKC. You could argue Reggie Jackson should have a more prominent role, but they're shipping his ass right now.

[Brazil]

But he doesn't. You're saying he takes 20 FGA when Durant is there and 30 FGA when he's not. While we can argue whether he should be taking 20 FGA when KD is there, it makes complete sense he'll shoot more when KD isn't there.



That makes no sense. Kobe has a better player than himself in Swaggy P, who should be taking at least half of his shots. Westbrook doesn't have that in OKC. You could argue Reggie Jackson should have a more prominent role, but they're shipping his ass right now.

He already took near 30 FGAs with Durant present

i can argue with Reggie Jackson yes... Shaggy P is such a great player

westchimp was even chucking with 2 Mvps on the floor Durant and harden... Your Westchimp defense does not make sense

[ElNono]

ikr he is such a warrior... He just makes some childish drama once in a while on the bench, thinks he is the new MJ and Ray allen combined...but never quits... That's so beautiful

other players stare down teammates, it is what it is... he definitely needs to mature. But he's a beast on the floor, last game notwithstanding... all star too now...

[dabom]

Dude westchimp is a baller. Their coach is just so fucking bad, they can't really do anything.

[Brazil]

For the record I don't mind he takes 20 FGAs per game tbh... Now what's embarrasing is that he is a shitty 3 pts shooter and continues to take 3,5 3s per game almost all contested

[dabom]

Westchimp is a top 10 player in the game.

[ElNono]

He already took near 30 FGAs with Durant present

i can argue with Reggie Jackson yes... Shaggy P is such a great player

So he averages 20FGA with Durant or 30FGA?


westchimp was even chucking with 2 Mvps on the floor Durant and harden... Your Westchimp defense does not make sense

They made the Finals. Whatever he did with Durant and Harden, looks like it worked pretty well (at least better than we did).

WCF again last season... I think he's done pretty well, considering coaching, etc...

[dabom]

For the record I don't mind he takes 20 FGAs per game tbh... Now what's embarrasing is that he is a shitty 3 pts shooter and continues to take 3,5 3s per game almost all contested

He is the pg and sometimes the ball comes to you with 3 seconds on the clock. A contested shot from the 3 is usually the best shot.

[ElNono]

He's obviously not perfect, or the best player in the game, but he's only 26...

[Malik Hairston]

I'm starting to think that many of you haven't actually watched OKC games, tbh:lol..

Generally, if your team doesn't have a system and the PG is one of the top 2 options, it shouldn't be surprising that he takes a lot of shots in their ISO-centric sets..

A lot of spoiled fans here that underestimate the impact of the Bud/Pop system at inflating above average PGs into "good/great" players..

[moisaenz]

He is the pg and sometimes the ball comes to you with 3 seconds on the clock. A contested shot from the 3 is usually the best shot.

Dude is fast enough to get closer and get a better shot with 3 seconds..but he might not be smart enough.

[Brazil]

other players stare down teammates, it is what it is... he definitely needs to mature. But he's a beast on the floor, last game notwithstanding... all star too now...

Another subtle... :rolleyes

He is an athletic beast but he has the IQ and maturity of a hot oyster

its all good tho contrary to a certain poster I have no issue with player fans, let us proceed

[Brazil]

He is the pg and sometimes the ball comes to you with 3 seconds on the clock. A contested shot from the 3 is usually the best shot.:lol so that's a thing that happens to him then unless you find me another PG chucking 3,5 per game at .257 you speak out of your ass.. Not the first time it happens

[ElNono]

Another subtle... :rolleyes

He is an athletic beast but he has the IQ and maturity of a hot oyster

its all good tho contrary to a certain poster I have no issue with player fans, let us proceed

I used to love Nash running SSOL with the Suns... it was fun to watch, even though I wanted them to lose against us. Nothing wrong with appreciating talent around the league, IMO.

[dabom]

Dude is fast enough to get closer and get a better shot with 3 seconds..but he might not be smart enough.

He is human. He might not have the lungs of deep sea divers. We can't ask him to drive every time he touches the ball.

[dabom]

:lol so that's a thing that happens to him then unless you find me another PG chucking 3,5 per game at .257 you speak out of your ass.. Not the first time it happens

Appreciating another pg doesn't mean you love your hero pg less tbh.

[ElNono]

Watching him drive reminds me of prime Gino or Rose in his MVP season, tbh... that first step and you know you can't stop him. The downside is you know that's gonna take a toll.

[dabom]

Who is he going to pass it to? We know okc has no other options besides him and durant. If he passes it off to durant, now he'll have less time.

[Malik Hairston]

I know your thing is backing superstars or stars that receive a lot of criticism, but still, how can you be a fan of the Spurs and a fan of Westbrook?

He plays by far the least aesthetically pleasing style for a player of or above his caliber that I've ever seen. I don't care how insane he is athletically, I can't stand watching him play.

The first part is correct, and I don't actually like Westbrook's style of play, I'm not a fan of mid-range reliant, volume shooting PGs(or volume shooting PGs in general), tbh..I'm a huge fan of his personality, though, his constant effort and energy level..

After watching Parker for so many years, with his careless attitude and often lackadaisical effort, it's refreshing to watch a PG that puts everything into every game..

[Brazil]

I used to love Nash running SSOL with the Suns... it was fun to watch, even though I wanted them to lose against us. Nothing wrong with appreciating talent around the league, IMO.

Of course nothing wrong now just let me :lol at your :cry poor Westchimp, he is a victim of a shitty coach and system :cry

he is impressive one of the best player of the league but also a chimp not capable to have one reasonable shoot selection every two games... No need to find some lame excuses

[Brazil]

Appreciating another pg doesn't mean you love your hero pg less tbh.

oh look mister smart ass... I do appreciate a lot of PGs CP3, was a fan of Dwill before he started to not give a shit anymore. Nash is another fun to watch etc etc

westchimp is a worst version of Rose before his injury but it was fun to make fun of Rose because he is dumb like a rock but suddenly it's cool to <3 Westchimp who is the only nba player to have a case to be dumber than him...

[ElNono]

Of course nothing wrong now just let me :lol at your :cry poor Westchimp, he is a victim of a shitty coach and system :cry

he is impressive one of the best player of the league but also a chimp not capable to have one reasonable shoot selection every two games... No need to find some lame excuses

I'm in agreement about his shot selection, stated so. But coaching does have something to do with that too, IMO. He's not removed of blame, but there's something there too.

[Malik Hairston]

Oh, and he's also one of the best-dressed men on the planet, tbh..as a fashion connoisseur myself, I appreciate his style..

[Brazil]

Oh, and he's also one of the best-dressed men on the planet, tbh..as a fashion connoisseur myself, I appreciate his style..

:lmao

you are a giant pussy tbh

[Brazil]

I'm in agreement about his shot selection, stated so. But coaching does have something to do with that too, IMO. He's not removed of blame, but there's something there too.

Not even sure dude is coachable especially by a dude like brooks... Now he is not 16 y/o anymore he could also try to improve by himself and realize for a start he sucks at shooting 3s

[ElNono]

Not even sure dude is coachable especially by a dude like brooks... Now he is not 16 y/o anymore he could also try to improve by himself and realize for a start he sucks at shooting 3s

Brooks is not going to do it.

[Brazil]

Always a pleasure to read some subtle by one of my favorite poster of this board and the usual shitty Harlem non sense and trolling.

have a good night...

[Brazil]

Brooks is not going to do it.

Who would be ? Bud, pop, thib ? That's about it I guess...

[dabom]

Always a pleasure to read some subtle by one of my favorite poster of this board and the usual shitty Harlem non sense and trolling.

have a good night...

Gn :lmao

[dabom]

Brooks can't even coach a JV team. :lol

[Brazil]

Gn :lmao

:tu

[exstatic]

Are you serious?

He absolutely would NOT fit here. Aggressiveness with NO focus is just chaos.

[ElNono]

Who would be ? Bud, pop, thib ? That's about it I guess...

They have two top 15 talent in the league, it's stupid they don't have a decent (not good, decent) coach. I dunno, take a flyer with George Karl. See if Larry Brown wants to coach for a year or two.

[ElNono]

I think even D'Antoni would do a better job than Brooks at this stage...

[dabom]

He absolutely would NOT fit here. Aggressiveness with NO focus is just chaos.

"He absolutely would NOT fit here. Aggressiveness with NO focus is just chaos" :pop:

That's what pop basically told parker to do around 2012( too be aggressive, fuck everyone else). Except parker cant defend or is a physical specimen. You don't think pop likes talent? OKC has been carried by 2 top talents. Their leadership skill is undeniable. Westbrook comes off as cockiness because he can't be checked at times. The right coach is all he needs. .

[Brazil]

They have two top 15 talent in the league, it's stupid they don't have a decent (not good, decent) coach. I dunno, take a flyer with George Karl. See if Larry Brown wants to coach for a year or two.

:lol I doubt these two would influence chimp

[ElNono]

Pop would take Russ in a hearthbeat, and then play his CIA games on him...

then NBA = fu:lolked

[Brazil]

"He absolutely would NOT fit here. Aggressiveness with NO focus is just chaos" :pop:

That's what pop basically told parker to do around 2012( too be aggressive, fuck everyone else). Except parker cant defend or is a physical specimen. You don't think pop likes talent? OKC has been carried by 2 top talents. Their leadership skill is undeniable. Westbrook comes off as cockiness because he can't be checked at times. The right coach is all he needs. .

All he needs is a brain

[ElNono]

:lol I doubt these two would influence chimp

They're seasoned coaches... Scotty has really no authority over those guys...

[Brazil]

They're seasoned coaches... Scotty has really no authority over those guys...

He had over all those guys except one...

[dabom]

Pop would take Russ in a hearthbeat, and then play his CIA games on him...

then NBA = fu:lolked

:lol

[ElNono]

He had over all those guys except one...

He really hasn't. He should've sat Perkins a long time ago, but he didn't have the balls or locker room authority to do it until this season..

[dabom]

I remember scotty made a play vs the spurs and durant had an open lane but got fouled. Not sure in regular season or playoffs but I was like wtf? It could be so easy for them but their coach is dummer than rocks. They don't know what they have.