RPM Small forwards...

[apalisoc_9]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/5

1. Leonard 4.87
2. James 4.64

The rest....

[hitmantb]

And Duncan is 6.46, #1 of PF's, ahead of Davis's 5.9, it is pretty insane how big of an impact he has.

Green is #5 among shooting guards.

[apalisoc_9]

And Duncan is 6.46, #1 of PF's, ahead of Davis's 5.9, it is pretty insane how big of an impact he has.

Green is #5 among shooting guards.

I think there's an Error in the PG section though...I didn't see tony in the top 50.

[-21-]

Duncan is #3 in all positions. Just behind Curry and Cousins. :wow

[Malik Hairston]

Not really surprising, tbh..

Duncan, Kawhi and Danny are the 3 most important players on the team, which is reflected in most on/off metrics, so far..

Everybody should already know Leonard's impact on the team, though, we saw it when he was out last year..especially when you swap his minutes for Belinelli/Daye and a rookie..

[dabom]

Manu is our third best player bud. Green is below tiago

[spurraider21]

:lol kobe #64 among shooting guards and 330 overall

[trollt]

:lol Can always rely on ol Kobers for a good pick-me-up

[Johnny RIngo]

Tony Parker:

-0.43 - Offensive RPM (ranked 52nd among all PGs on offense)
-2.33 - Defensive RPM (8th worst defensive PG in the entire league)
-2.76 - Total RPM (ranked 71st among all PGs, 360th overall)

:lol worse impact than current Kobe - trainwreck of a season for Tony

[apalisoc_9]

Tony Parker:

-0.43 - Offensive RPM (ranked 52nd among all PGs on offense)
-2.33 - Defensive RPM (8th worst defensive PG in the entire league)
-2.76 - Total RPM (ranked 71st among all PGs, 360th overall)

:lol worse impact than current Kobe - trainwreck of a season for Tony

:lol

[Chomag]

Dear lord are those stats really legit? TP Damn...

[Johnny RIngo]

Dear lord are those stats really legit? TP Damn...

Yes, unfortunately. Anybody with a half a braincell could tell Parker looked washed up last season. Most of us assumed it was the nonstop basketball affecting him and that he'd return to "normal" after an off-season of rest. Well, he's had plenty of rest thus far and he looks even worse than last year. Defense is atrocious, cannot run the offense, look slow and can't drive to the rim with speed anymore, jumper is inconsistent. Just disappointing to watch everybody get their hopes up expecting Tony to come back and play like 2013 after he "heals up".

Giving him that $56 million extension was a mistake...especially after the shit season he had last year. Spurs would have been better off picking up Lowry on the cheap instead.

[ElNono]

Pretty amazing what TD and Manu are still pulling off at this stage of their careers, tbh

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Pretty amazing what TD and Manu are still pulling off at this stage of their careers, tbh

I agree. :tu

[Johnny RIngo]

6.46 - Duncan
4.87 - Leonard
3.31 - Green
1.43 - Manu
0.48 - Bonner
0.27 - Cojo
-0.07 - Diaw
-0.09 - Baynes
-0.56 - Splitter
-1.77 - Kyle Anderson
-2.07 - Ayres
-2.73 - Belinelli
-2.76 - Tony Parker
-3.61 - Daye

I've said it before, but that Parker/Belinelli backcourt is so fucking cancerous. They should never be on the court at the same time. And yeah, TP's impact numbers are scary bad this year. You know you're having a shit season when your impact is worse than Jeff Ayres.

[Perry Mason]

Yes, unfortunately. Anybody with a half a braincell could tell Parker looked washed up last season. Most of us assumed it was the nonstop basketball affecting him and that he'd return to "normal" after an off-season of rest. Well, he's had plenty of rest thus far and he looks even worse than last year. Defense is atrocious, cannot run the offense, look slow and can't drive to the rim with speed anymore, jumper is inconsistent. Just disappointing to watch everybody get their hopes up expecting Tony to come back and play like 2013 after he "heals up".

Giving him that $56 million extension was a mistake...especially after the shit season he had last year. Spurs would have been better off picking up Lowry on the cheap instead.

I'm sorry, but if you had training in mathematics and logic, you would discern that these statistics are generally crap. You cannot reduce specific historical statistics of players to create "an average lineup" and "average team", and then interpolate the relative statistics of another play to determine their RPM. It is circular math.

Because it is a colossal failure as a statistic, various statisticians use "adjusted" RPM. This is a form of cheating, because it uses actual historical data in heavy volumes to "tweak" the model the statistic follows, which makes it less of a model. But as anyone should know, human performance on a basketball court will never be identical to what came before. We are talking basic rules of reality.

All that said, because we are looking at a core of on/off metrics, you do get *some* indication of a player's performance. But you HAVE to account for (1) lineups, (2) size of sample, and (3) injuries.

Tony is penalized by all 3 factors. So there is no question this stat severely underrates him, and no coach in the NBA would put him outside the top 10. Think about that. The posters here think they are smarter than every professional coach in the NBA.