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BillMc
12-29-2014, 03:49 PM
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2014/12/28/popovich-offers-further-update-on-parker/

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich offered a further update on injured Tony Parker before Sunday’s game, describing his strained left hamstring as “very painful” but saying that the six-time All-Star should be back in the near future.
“He saw the doctor with the MRI, and it’s basically going to be his confidence level, how he feels in a couple of workouts,” Popovich said. “But so far, the MRI looks good, but he’s got some (swelling) in there. It’s very painful. We’ll just see how his body works through that. But it’s not going to be a very long time. These four days (off) were very important for him.”
Parker sat for the 10th time in the past 13 games on Sunday. He’s averaging 16.2 points and 5.2 assists in his 14th season. Popovich had said before Saturday’s game in New Orleans that Parker would be out “a while” with the strain, which has forced him to the bench on two instances since the initial injury on Dec. 5.

lefty
12-29-2014, 03:53 PM
Its ok our top 2 PG's are available

loveforthegame
12-29-2014, 03:56 PM
An update on Leonard sure would be nice.

Brunodf
12-29-2014, 04:07 PM
Let him rest tbh

SpursFan86
12-29-2014, 04:16 PM
An update on Leonard sure would be nice.

Yeah...as much as I love Parker, I think we can hold the fort down fine with CoJo/Mills. Kawhi is much more important at this point...our defense has really taken a hit with him out. Outside of Green we have no halfway decent perimeter defenders.

Beaverfuzz
12-29-2014, 04:18 PM
Its ok our top 2 PG's are available

Let me know when you find the second PG on the roster (excluding Parker).

Malik Hairston
12-29-2014, 04:40 PM
Tony should take his time, tbh, hold him out until 2016 IMO..

lefty
12-29-2014, 04:41 PM
Let me know when you find the second PG on the roster (excluding Parker).
Ahead of the 3rd PG (Parker)

Maddog
12-29-2014, 05:01 PM
I agree- last year they did OK without Parker. That was when Mills really came into his on. That said, Mills is not a pure point guard, but works really well with Manu.
Problem with Cojo is his outside shot doesn't command the respect that mills does so the spacing with him isn't as good.

ElNono
12-29-2014, 05:04 PM
I want TP back ASAP... We need to figure out if we can count on him for the remainder of the regular season...

cd98
12-29-2014, 05:06 PM
Last year our secret to success was keeping pace or slightly beating the starters of most teams, and then having our bench whip their second unit. We've missed Mills's change of pace and outside shooting, but couple that with Manu and Belineli and Diaw and we should wreck havoc on second units once again. I'm not sure of what COJO's role will be once Parker is back, but Mills was always slated as the 2nd unit "point guard" though really Manu is the second unit point guard and Mills is the shooting guard.

Chris
12-29-2014, 05:10 PM
Its ok our top 2 PG's are available

tbh

Chris
12-29-2014, 05:12 PM
Parker is quite clearly the best point guard on the Spurs, but Cojo has been scary good and Mills is fresh off the turnip truck. Manu and KA can also run the point adequately this season.

xellos88330
12-29-2014, 05:41 PM
Cojo has been doing work. Now Mills is back. When Parker is 100%, I think it is impossible for me to complain about our PG spot with those 3 guys.

Cry Havoc
12-29-2014, 05:45 PM
Cojo has been doing work. Now Mills is back. When Parker is 100%, I think it is impossible to complain about our PG spot with those 3 guys.

Come on xellos, you aren't new here. Every time Parker scores more than 20 or doesn't have double digit assists, people will be calling for his head.

xellos88330
12-29-2014, 05:50 PM
Come on xellos, you aren't new here. Every time Parker scores more than 20 or doesn't have double digit assists, people will be calling for his head.

I edited my post. Thanks for the catch.

hater
12-29-2014, 06:54 PM
SIX TIME ALLSTAR

:tu

Cry Havoc
12-29-2014, 06:58 PM
I edited my post. Thanks for the catch.

Parker could drop 20, 5, and 8 tomorrow on 8 shots for a +/- of +25 for the game, and SpursTalk would bitch about him playing too many minutes with Mills available.

EVAY
12-29-2014, 07:14 PM
Parker could drop 20, 5, and 8 tomorrow on 8 shots for a +/- of +25 for the game, and SpursTalk would bitch about him playing too many minutes with Mills available.

And they would blame him for not passing to Kawhi on the bench.

rmt
12-29-2014, 07:24 PM
Cojo has been doing work. Now Mills is back. When Parker is 100%, I think it is impossible for me to complain about our PG spot with those 3 guys.

Strange that backup PG has always been a weakness and now it's a strength. Now it's SF backup that's the problem.

Malik Hairston
12-29-2014, 07:36 PM
Spurs just won a championship with Parker playing mediocre ball for the entire run, tbh..they beat Portland and OKC in the close-out games without Parker on the floor:lol..their best stretches vs. the Heat were with Parker on the bench, too..

Tony is a luxury when he's on, he can make the Spurs unstoppable if his body is right, but he hasn't been vital for the Spurs since 2012-2013(his dominant season)..Spurs can survive without him, it's an easy position to fill..they have absolutely no chance at surviving without Kawhi, though, they would get worked in the 1st round, tbh..

dabom
12-29-2014, 07:40 PM
Spurs just won a championship with Parker playing mediocre ball for the entire run, tbh..they beat Portland and OKC in the close-out games without Parker on the floor:lol..their best stretches vs. the Heat were with Parker on the bench, too..

Tony is a luxury when he's on, he can make the Spurs unstoppable if his body is right, but he hasn't been vital for the Spurs since 2012-2013(his dominant season)..Spurs can survive without him, it's an easy position to fill..they have absolutely no chance at surviving without Kawhi, though, they would get worked in the 1st round, tbh..

:lol

Malik Hairston
12-29-2014, 07:43 PM
Losing Manu would be a killer, though..

The heart and leadership he brings to the Spurs can't be replicated by any other player, he has the "it" factor..just having him on the floor is huge for the Spurs, you can tell how much all his teammates love him IMO..

spursparker9
12-29-2014, 07:45 PM
Let him rest now, if not there will be no Spur in the all-star game.

UZER
12-29-2014, 07:50 PM
Losing Manu would be a killer, though..

The heart and leadership he brings to the Spurs can't be replicated by any other player, he has the "it" factor..just having him on the floor is huge for the Spurs, you can tell how much all his teammates love him IMO..

His horrible TOs also can't be replicated.

Beaverfuzz
12-29-2014, 08:15 PM
Ahead of the 3rd PG (Parker)

I can Roger that after two more games and Patty is playing more minutes.

313
12-29-2014, 08:33 PM
His horrible TOs also can't be replicated.

hater
12-29-2014, 08:34 PM
His horrible TOs also can't be replicated.

:lmao

hater
12-29-2014, 08:34 PM
LOL at the Spurs can win a ship without Parker crew :lol

ElNono
12-29-2014, 08:35 PM
Losing Manu would be a killer, though..

The heart and leadership he brings to the Spurs can't be replicated by any other player, he has the "it" factor..just having him on the floor is huge for the Spurs, you can tell how much all his teammates love him IMO..

Always has been the xfactor... If he's not right we don't win, if he's kicking ass we can't be beat...

ElNono
12-29-2014, 08:39 PM
It boils down to having more options and having all your horses... that's why you want everyone healthy and available...

Based on what Pop said, im wondering if he'll be back next week at some point...

pgardn
12-29-2014, 08:41 PM
Always has been the xfactor... If he's not right we don't win, if he's kicking ass we can't be beat...

We won't go anywhere without Parker AND Manu in the playoffs.

Malik Hairston
12-29-2014, 08:56 PM
Parker's numbers in last year's playoffs: 15.8 PER, 53% TS, 4.8 APG to 2.7 TOPG and net negative on/off numbers..

An average player like Joseph could replicate those numbers, tbh..the offense would be slightly worse with his lack of playmaking, but the defense would be better..

moisaenz
12-29-2014, 08:59 PM
Right now the only difference between cojo and parker is the way that defenses play them. Parker usually gets more attention from defenders because they are afraid he might get hot.

Ice009
12-29-2014, 10:03 PM
An update on Leonard sure would be nice.

That's what I'm mainly interested in. I want an update on the fMVP.

Sean Cagney
12-30-2014, 02:29 AM
Parker's numbers in last year's playoffs: 15.8 PER, 53% TS, 4.8 APG to 2.7 TOPG and net negative on/off numbers..

An average player like Joseph could replicate those numbers, tbh..the offense would be slightly worse with his lack of playmaking, but the defense would be better..

Joseph is not putting up those numbers in the playoffs lets be real now :lol His D is better yes, but he is not the player Parker is on the offensive end or even close to it. An average player could not replicate those numbers IMO, not Joseph anyways.

Parker came up big in some games as well, way more than Joseph could think of. Joseph is a backup and will stay that way, thats about the end of the story there.

BTW if Joseph is that good trade Tony right now and then just start him if he can do what Tony does right? I mean he could replicate what Tony did on a title team so why not?


That's what I'm mainly interested in. I want an update on the fMVP.

Yep, we all want an update on Kawhi but unfortunately it seems he is not coming along very well and no updates on his return. I hope it is not THAT bad.

milkyway21
12-30-2014, 02:45 AM
Pop just announced Parker won't be out long. A game or two and he'll be back in action.

I am glad.:wakeup

Sean Cagney
12-30-2014, 03:00 AM
Pop just announced Parker won't be out long. A game or two and he'll be back in action.

I am glad.:wakeup

We are getting there slowly but surely. Now we need that beast back from Last years finals, that one guy with the braids in his hair. Then the Spurs are complete and ready to move up.

deibero
12-30-2014, 03:56 AM
Parker's numbers in last year's playoffs: 15.8 PER, 53% TS, 4.8 APG to 2.7 TOPG and net negative on/off numbers..

An average player like Joseph could replicate those numbers, tbh..the offense would be slightly worse with his lack of playmaking, but the defense would be better..

Sometimes theres more to the numbers. Cojo doesnt command the attention tp does so him getting those numbers affects the offense.

There was game 3 or 4 in Mia when TP wasnt playing well but he controlled the game and made the whole off go and thats the audio we all have seen of pop congratulating him.

You can win a game or a half without tp but definitely not a series!

EVAY
12-30-2014, 09:28 AM
Sometimes theres more to the numbers. Cojo doesnt command the attention tp does so him getting those numbers affects the offense.

There was game 3 or 4 in Mia when TP wasnt playing well but he controlled the game and made the whole off go and thats the audio we all have seen of pop congratulating him.

You can win a game or a half without tp but definitely not a series!

Someone who has been paying attention.

hater
12-30-2014, 10:15 AM
Sometimes theres more to the numbers. Cojo doesnt command the attention tp does so him getting those numbers affects the offense.

There was game 3 or 4 in Mia when TP wasnt playing well but he controlled the game and made the whole off go and thats the audio we all have seen of pop congratulating him.

You can win a game or a half without tp but definitely not a series!


props to this man. watches the actual games instead of just look at boxscores :tu

Brazil
12-30-2014, 11:16 AM
Spurs just won a championship with Parker playing mediocre ball for the entire run, tbh..they beat Portland and OKC in the close-out games without Parker on the floor:lol..their best stretches vs. the Heat were with Parker on the bench, too..

Tony is a luxury when he's on, he can make the Spurs unstoppable if his body is right, but he hasn't been vital for the Spurs since 2012-2013(his dominant season)..Spurs can survive without him, it's an easy position to fill..they have absolutely no chance at surviving without Kawhi, though, they would get worked in the 1st round, tbh..


Parker's numbers in last year's playoffs: 15.8 PER, 53% TS, 4.8 APG to 2.7 TOPG and net negative on/off numbers..

An average player like Joseph could replicate those numbers, tbh..the offense would be slightly worse with his lack of playmaking, but the defense would be better..

:rolleyes

lefty
12-30-2014, 11:17 AM
Malik Hairston :worthy:

pgardn
12-30-2014, 11:25 AM
Parker's numbers in last year's playoffs: 15.8 PER, 53% TS, 4.8 APG to 2.7 TOPG and net negative on/off numbers..

An average player like Joseph could replicate those numbers, tbh..the offense would be slightly worse with his lack of playmaking, but the defense would be better..

So you really want to see Manu cave in when the tough ball handling duty is all on him?

Again, Parker and Manu are the only two that can consistently open cans during the playoffs.
We must have BOTH. And Parker has got to have the major minutes or Manu will collapse.
You guys look at single games and stats.
Watch the frrgn game and playoff series, notice the two guys who are consistent threats to penetrate. This threat opens up our ball movement and vice versa. I just can't believe the crap of setting these two against each other when we will only win multiple series with BOTH.

pgardn
12-30-2014, 11:29 AM
Mediocre ball from Parker...

We are OUTof the playoffs 1st round against Dallas without him.
Jesus crap.... Unbelievable.

hater
12-30-2014, 11:31 AM
We are OUTof the playoffs 1st round against Dallas without him.
Jesus crap.... Unbelievable.

Amen

mediocre Parker >>>> any of our ballhandlers. :lol trying to ride Evita ballhandling a playoff game for 48 minutes and expecting a win :lol

littlecoyotecoin
12-30-2014, 11:40 AM
We are getting there slowly but surely. Now we need that beast back from Last years finals, that one guy with the braids in his hair. Then the Spurs are complete and ready to move up.

Sup, Boylen?

ElNono
12-31-2014, 12:00 AM
Parker sees specialist

Tony Parker visited a specialist in Las Vegas this week to asses his progress on the hamstring injury that has kept him sidelined for a good portion of this month.

Full story:
http://www.express-news.com/ton...egas (http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/07/28/tony-parker-raging-in-vegas-bachelor-party)

lefty
12-31-2014, 12:46 AM
Vegas?

Pauleta14
12-31-2014, 01:05 AM
Mediocre ball from Parker...

We are OUTof the playoffs 1st round against Dallas without him.
Jesus crap.... Unbelievable.

Not only, see the first games against Portland where he got the team going and exhausted Lillard...

But mainly, what stats don't show is the fact that EVERY teams we faced had a plan against TP and focused on him.
He is/was seen by the whole league as the head of the snake and that's one reason (with ball movement) so many of our guys were open.

I'm still unsure if this guys are trolls or really stupid/don't understand BB tbh...

The guy has been playing 14 years for the Spurs, took less money than he could, showed his dedication by staying in SA despite opportunities...

And some of you want Mills as our starting PG just because he shoots the 3! lmao...

Ice009
12-31-2014, 02:07 AM
Parker had some huge games in the playoffs. He wasn't consistent and didn't dominate in every game, but he did have some great games.

Portland game 3 on the road was a monster performance.

hater
12-31-2014, 10:14 AM
^ watches the games instead of browsing boxscores :tu

Perry Mason
12-31-2014, 11:19 AM
Parker did not have negative on/off metrics in the 2014 playoffs. Of the 23 playoff games, Parker had negative on/off numbers in 8 of them. Please don't be a tool and listen to tools, but refer to actual game-by-game stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01/gamelog/2014/

These stats will show what informed posters have been saying for a while. Parker's issue has been consistency.

Parker as well had some excellent games in the 2014 playoffs, and there is no title without him. He was +32 in Game 2 against OKC. He was +20 in pivotal Game 5 against Dallas.

Except for Game 6 OKC, the Spurs lost every game in which TP9 had negative on/off numbers. So if that isn't perfect evidence the Spurs need a healthy TP, then then nothing is.

There is no question in my mind that Tony's inconsistency is health related. It is an open question as to whether he can regain his former speed (or get close enough). But to the doubters, remember how Manu looked with all his maladies and injuries since 2009. We thought he was completely done in 2013, and yet he had a strong 2014 and an amazing Finals and Semi-Finals.

EVAY
12-31-2014, 11:22 AM
Parker sees specialist

Tony Parker visited a specialist in Las Vegas this week to asses his progress on the hamstring injury that has kept him sidelined for a good portion of this month.

Full story:
http://www.express-news.com/ton...egas (http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/07/28/tony-parker-raging-in-vegas-bachelor-party)

Kinda reminds me of Tiago seeing a specialist for his calf when nobody could figure out what was wrong.

Dre_7
12-31-2014, 11:24 AM
Spurs need Parker and Kawhi to win it all, but I would rather have Kawhi back sooner as CoJo is playing well and Mills needs all the time he can get to shake the rust off. The SF situation is a little different. The Spurs are just a different team without Kawhi's athleticism and defense.

FkLA
12-31-2014, 04:19 PM
Kinda reminds me of Tiago seeing a specialist for his calf when nobody could figure out what was wrong.

No, they're not similar at all. One was a legit injury, the mild hamstring strain is just a pain tolerance issue. Click the link you naive wanker.

apalisoc_9
12-31-2014, 04:20 PM
No, they're not similar at all. One was a legit injury, the mild hamstring strain is just a pain tolerance issue. Click the link you naive wanker.

:lol

le13
01-01-2015, 07:57 AM
No, they're not similar at all. One was a legit injury, the mild hamstring strain is just a pain tolerance issue. Click the link you naive wanker.

10 years old???

le13
01-01-2015, 07:57 AM
:lol

5 years old?

le13
01-01-2015, 07:58 AM
Parker did not have negative on/off metrics in the 2014 playoffs. Of the 23 playoff games, Parker had negative on/off numbers in 8 of them. Please don't be a tool and listen to tools, but refer to actual game-by-game stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01/gamelog/2014/

These stats will show what informed posters have been saying for a while. Parker's issue has been consistency.

Parker as well had some excellent games in the 2014 playoffs, and there is no title without him. He was +32 in Game 2 against OKC. He was +20 in pivotal Game 5 against Dallas.

Except for Game 6 OKC, the Spurs lost every game in which TP9 had negative on/off numbers. So if that isn't perfect evidence the Spurs need a healthy TP, then then nothing is.

There is no question in my mind that Tony's inconsistency is health related. It is an open question as to whether he can regain his former speed (or get close enough). But to the doubters, remember how Manu looked with all his maladies and injuries since 2009. We thought he was completely done in 2013, and yet he had a strong 2014 and an amazing Finals and Semi-Finals.

At least some posters got some IQ here. Thanks ;)

mkurts
01-02-2015, 03:26 AM
Parker needs to adapt his game as his atheticism declines.

BillMc
01-02-2015, 05:21 AM
Parker did not have negative on/off metrics in the 2014 playoffs. Of the 23 playoff games, Parker had negative on/off numbers in 8 of them. Please don't be a tool and listen to tools, but refer to actual game-by-game stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01/gamelog/2014/

These stats will show what informed posters have been saying for a while. Parker's issue has been consistency.

Parker as well had some excellent games in the 2014 playoffs, and there is no title without him. He was +32 in Game 2 against OKC. He was +20 in pivotal Game 5 against Dallas.

Except for Game 6 OKC, the Spurs lost every game in which TP9 had negative on/off numbers. So if that isn't perfect evidence the Spurs need a healthy TP, then then nothing is.

There is no question in my mind that Tony's inconsistency is health related. It is an open question as to whether he can regain his former speed (or get close enough). But to the doubters, remember how Manu looked with all his maladies and injuries since 2009. We thought he was completely done in 2013, and yet he had a strong 2014 and an amazing Finals and Semi-Finals.

Well said

pgardn
01-02-2015, 12:55 PM
Parker needs to adapt his game as his atheticism declines.

He already has to some extent.
The thing is he is still very fast to the basket. And we need him to be. He is by far the fastest guy to the bucket on our team. The number of layups that he makes during tough stretches on offense can only be touched (at a lower level) by Manu.

Our beautiful passing game exists because we have two guys that are very good at getting to the basket. Both manu and Tony can make the defense contract on the perimeter, it opens up a ton of passing lanes outside and inside. Getting the defense in a chase mode is absolutely essential for what we do.

Brazil
01-02-2015, 01:21 PM
Parker shooting 3s at an impressive % is clearly a willingness to adapt his game...

Nevertheless during the 21 games he played, his assists are down and his tov are up, he is having one of his worst assist ratio of his career. In those 21 games he was below average player, a kinda midle of the pack dude. There is no spinning to make, that's the way it is and not stupid hating ala usual dumb fucks... with their sore vagina theories and Spurs will be better off him in the long run.

He had a decent PO run last year, not great but decent. No way we win Dallas serie without him... Against Portland I'm not even sure we needed to play any starter to get this serie but he was key to transform this serie in a cake walk... Against OKC he had 2 solid games and some forgettable ones. Against Miami, he did the job and let Kawhi run the show which was the good strategy obviously.

14 POs Parker was inconsistent but adapted his game to the benefit of the team. After a summer of rest he is being worst than during the POs, the good news is you don't decline that far in 3 months holidays.

I believe he was coasting a bit during the beginning of the season plus need to adapt to feed more Kawhi, from there he is obviously bothered by injuries.

Parker presence is fundamental for the team, not that the team need a 12-13 Parker to be fine but he is important he gets his usual minutes quick to share O responsabilities with Manu, Tim to spare them. I fear we are running both in fumes. Fortunately January is an easy month to deal with that will enable the team to manage minutes of everybody.