in discussion to acquire Mozgov from Denver

[djohn2oo8]

Marc Stein ✔ @ESPNSteinLine Follow (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) ESPN sources say tell @WindhorstESPN (https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN) and I that Cavs are in advanced discussions to acquire Timofey Mozgov from Denver

[Jodelo]

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[ElNono]

Mogzgov is solid, tbh

[Trainwreck2100]

wtf how many first round picks are these morons going to give up. They're the fucking reason you can't trade consecutive picks for christ's sake.

[lefty]

Well they had to do something considering Varejao is out

[RsxPiimp]

2 first rounders, good shit Denver.

[RsxPiimp]

Faried is probably going to get his ass shipped soon.

[jeebus]

Denver making off like a bandit, with Cleveland hoping they can lure free agents instead of drafting:lol. Lebeta is really stretching dem GM legs during his "recovery" though. Still, this is a lot of shit going on for a team that'll get knocked out in the 2nd round.

[elmanutres]

nets 2.0

selling your teams future for 1 weak championship window

[baseline bum]

So is this Cleveland's first and the first they're getting from OKC? They need a bigman desperately.

[baseline bum]

nets 2.0

selling your teams future for 1 weak championship window

Did you really just compare building around LeBron to building around Deron Williams?

[DPG21920]

Two 1st round picks for Mozgov :lmao

[SpursFan86]

It's the Memphis and OKC 1sts that they're trading away. Pretty steep price for Mozgov (too steep, IMO), but he's what they need. He's a solid rim protector and will be a good replacement for Varejao.

[Robz4000]

Two 1st round picks for Mozgov :lmao

[DPG21920]

So Denver gets 2 1st rounders for a guy with a career below average PER while also getting below the Luxury Tax. K.

I don't care how this trade works out, that's just not jusitifiable. Lebron is great and CLE has a lot of talent so they may be able to pull off an ECF run/Finals, but that doesn't make the trade good value/smart at all.

[Killakobe81]

Two 1st round picks for Mozgov :lmao

This. Mozgof is a solid big. And I get Lebron doesnt play n the paint as much and not as good when gets there ...
But you are clogging the lane (helps on defense hurts on offense).
Giving up picks though when Love, Kyrie and Lebron are hogging the cap.

[gnsf0946]

He did have a 93/29 game once so worth it imo.

[Mr Bones]

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[hater]

why not just bring back Ilgauskas? jeez what a monstrous team they building

[baseline bum]

He did have a 93/29 game once so worth it imo.

http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/197422d833c277780c8090426be98f59_crop_north1.jpg

Damn 93 points on 15 FGA is impressive. Only other player I could see doing it is Durant.

[spurraider21]

So is this Cleveland's first and the first they're getting from OKC? They need a bigman desperately.
from what i understand they are from memphis and OKC

[DPG21920]

So CLE has given up Wiggins, Bennett, Waiters and 4 future 1st round picks (Pick to Minny for Love, to Boston in Jack deal, 2 picks to Denver for Mozgov) for:

Love
Jr Smith
Shumpert
Mozgov

:td

[baseline bum]

from what i understand they are from memphis and OKC

Isn't the OKC pick protected a lot this year so that it's likely next year's first? Two really late firsts for Mozgov isn't too bad when late firsts tend to be borderline NBA talent a lot of the time. Especially when Cleveland has no center and is desperate to save their season.

[Mr Bones]

Two first round picks seems a bit steep, but they are protected, and for a team desperately in need of defense, adding Shumpert and Mozgov is a step in the right direction.

[baseline bum]

So CLE has given up Wiggins, Bennett, Waiters and 4 future 1st round picks (Pick to Minny for Love, to Boston in Jack deal, 2 picks to Denver for Mozgov) for:

Love
Jr Smith
Shumpert
Mozgov

:td

The Jack deal was to land LeBron man. That worked out pretty well.

[spurraider21]

So CLE has given up Wiggins, Bennett, Waiters and 4 future 1st round picks (Pick to Minny for Love, to Boston in Jack deal, 2 picks to Denver for Mozgov) for:

Love
Jr Smith
Shumpert
Mozgov

:td
Would be hilarious if LeBron ends up buying the Cavs and ruins them like MJ did to the cats

[Silver&Black]

http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/197422d833c277780c8090426be98f59_crop_north1.jpg

Damn 93 points on 15 FGA is impressive. Only other player I could see doing it is Durant.

Harden tbh

[RsxPiimp]

Flipping Waiters plus 2 late rd picks for Shump and Mozgov are worth it IMO. It addresses some of their biggest issues.

[jeebus]

So CLE has given up Wiggins, Bennett, Waiters and 4 future 1st round picks (Pick to Minny for Love, to Boston in Jack deal, 2 picks to Denver for Mozgov) for:

Love
Jr Smith
Shumpert
Mozgov

:td

Lebron built this team for the kids.

[Malik Hairston]

Shumpert is one of the worst defensive players in the NBA, tbh, but it's worth the risk, as is Mozgov, for what LeCoon and the delusional Cavs are attempting to accomplish..

LeCoon in Miami worked because Pat Riley remained in charge and didn't give him any additional power, as most people have reported..LeCoon in Cleveland has all the power, he has Carte Blanche, he's the GM and he brings in whoever he wants, his crew gets as many tickets/jobs they want, etc..that's part of the reason this is going to fail, of course..

As we have seen time and time again, winning the genetic lottery, which allows you to become an elite basketball player, doesn't make you capable of properly analyzing and judging the ability/impact of other players..

[Splits]

I'm sure Blatt picked Mozgov, not LeBron... he coached the Russian Olympic team, so he knows him.

[spurraider21]

I'm sure Blatt picked Mozgov, not LeBron... he coached the Russian Olympic team, so he knows him.
:cry that filthy zionist pig

[Splits]

:cry that filthy zionist pig

Pretty sure they're behind the Paris attack today, tbh

[spurraider21]

Pretty sure they're behind the Paris attack today, tbh
:lol that would be diabolical

[Robz4000]

Pretty sure they're behind the Paris attack today, tbh

Sigh, it's always the jews...

[Splits]

Sigh, it's always the jews...

No, zionists.

[Robz4000]

No, zionists.

Are you being politically correct here or just obtuse?...

[Splits]

Are you being politically correct here or just obtuse?...

I've got zero problem with Jews. I've got a big problem with Zionists.

[DPG21920]

The Jack deal was to land LeBron man. That worked out pretty well.

True - no issue with having to dump a pick to land Lebron. That's smart business. Dumping 3 other 1sts plus Wiggins/Bennett/Waiters for Love/Mozgov/JR/Shump is crazy to me. I was even fine with the pick for Love. It was worth the risk to get talent to come to CLE.

But two firsts, after giving up 2 previously (even if those were ok) is crazy for Mozgov. Their inability to attract FA's to CLE even when Bron was younger was an issue and they need young, cheap talent to fill in gaps/holes and build a sustainble contender. This isn't some old core. They are young enough and should have 3-6 years together. They panicked IMO.

[DMC]

Spurs really fucked up the league, winning with nothing but low end signings, d-league guys and draft picks that didn't bolt at the first opportunity. Tim, Tony and Manu, Kawhi, all drafted by SA. Patty, Danny, Boris, all players getting waived or released by other teams. Ayers, faggot.

[DPG21920]

GM"s earn respect by having the vision and courage to build a team and win, even when players whine. Caving to Lebron worked out awful last time (no titles, Lebron leaving, huge mess) and they are doing the same thing again. No patience at all and just because they have a stupid owner willing to spend and mortgage assets to appease Lebron doesn't make it smart. If they win it will all be moot, but this seems like the least likely way to build a champion model.

[Splits]

This should work out well...

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[spurraider21]

This should work out well...

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:lol

[Robz4000]

I've got zero problem with Jews. I've got a big problem with Zionists.

Jews, 9/11, etc

[dirk4mvp]

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams etc

[Spurs9]

This may be the scoring efficiency boost the Cavs need tbh.
http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/197422d833c277780c8090426be98f59_crop_north1.jpg

[UZER]

The Cavs have their new scapegoat. If they fail, it's because mozgov sucked in the playoffs. Poor LeBron :cry

[cd021]

This may be the scoring efficiency boost the Cavs need tbh.
http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/197422d833c277780c8090426be98f59_crop_north1.jpg

We're screwed tbh. They got the Russian Wilt

[superbigtime]

What a weird name. Does he have a lisp? Are his parents black?

[MarioSpeedwagon]

Trade looks golden so far for the Cavs. Mozgov is perfect for them.

[Killakobe81]

Two first rounders though? they have to win it all to justify it but it is working well so far.

[baseline bum]

Two first rounders though? they have to win it all to justify it but it is working well so far.

Why? If you draft a bigman in the middle of the first round who can put up 10.6 and 8.4 on 58% shooting while being capable defensively, you did pretty well. So giving up two picks in the twenties doesn't seem too bad, especially in hindsight where the trade seemed to turn their season around.

[Killakobe81]

Why? If you draft a bigman in the middle of the first round who can put up 10.6 and 8.4 on 58% shooting while being capable defensively, you did pretty well. So giving up two picks in the twenties doesn't seem too bad, especially in hindsight where the trade seemed to turn their season around.

Gotta win though, the rest is just shuffling. If they win it's a steal if they lose they have less resources to acquire the piece they need.

[Leetonidas]

Gotta win though, the rest is just shuffling. If they win it's a steal if they lose they have less resources to acquire the piece they need.

Disagree, either way this move was necessary because of Andy V's annual injury. Two late first round picks wouldn't amount to shit for the Cavs and a 10/9 center would be the best case from those picks most likely anyway. And this is a franchise that drafted Anthony fucking Bennett #1 overall, so I wouldn't put my faith in them drafting any future stars at that position tbh

[baseline bum]

Gotta win though, the rest is just shuffling. If they win it's a steal if they lose they have less resources to acquire the piece they need.

I don't think it's a 2015 championship or bust move. They got a nice starting center for a couple of crappy picks and can afford to have Varejao play less minutes in the future. I'm not sure they could get a starting 5 like Mozgov with just the midlevel exception in free agency. And now they can still use their midlevel this offseason to get some bench help.

[Killakobe81]

I don't think it's a 2015 championship or bust move. They got a nice starting center for a couple of crappy picks and can afford to have Varejao play less minutes in the future. I'm not sure they could get a starting 5 like Mozgov with just the midlevel exception in free agency. And now they can still use their midlevel this offseason to get some bench help.

I agree mozgof can be a nice piece moving forward. And they are closer now to a title than pre trade but the NY trade has been almost as helpful. I think the pressure is on to win period even though LeBron downplayed it. If things don't go well this postseason, maybe Love leaves. Things are going well and with it expectations have been raised.If they win everyone is happy they lose different story

[Killakobe81]

Disagree, either way this move was necessary because of Andy V's annual injury. Two late first round picks wouldn't amount to shit for the Cavs and a 10/9 center would be the best case from those picks most likely anyway. And this is a franchise that drafted Anthony fucking Bennett #1 overall, so I wouldn't put my faith in them drafting any future stars at that position tbh

You are right but Spurs and other teams have found good players at the back of the draft. And they still gave up assets. Maybe a better center/player becomes available but you have less picks to deal that is all I am saying so far its been a good move.