Spurs are leading the league in Turnovers in the 4th quarter

[hater]

wonder why.... :lol

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miss you leader...

[Dex]

I don't know how, but somehow this is all Errors fault.

[Perry Mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MnvNJ6aY1c

Spurstalk posters know better than Pop...right?

[Diego20]

As if TP doesn't lose the ball :lol

[Diego20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MnvNJ6aY1c

Spurstalk posters know better than Pop...right?


154 posts about TP, that's a great number..

[Perry Mason]

154 posts about TP, that's a great number..

556 posts with nothing to add to any conversation. Nice job. I don't think most people could do that if they tried.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

wonder why.... :lol

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miss you leader...

Stop starting threads.

[look_at_g_shred]

Good to know

[Fireball]

Spurs just suck alltogether right now ...

[hater]

As if TP doesn't lose the ball :lol

He doesn't lead the league in 4th qtr turnover either :lol

[ElNono]

Turnovers with < 3 mins in the 4th quarter this season:

Tim Duncan: 4
Kawhi Leonard: 4
Manu Ginobili: 4
Marco Belinelli: 4
Corey Joseph: 3
Tony Parker: 2
Aron Baynes: 2
Austin Daye: 2

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/event_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&event_code=tov&year_id=2015&is_playoffs=N&team_id=SAS&opp_id=&quarter=4&time_remain_quarter=0-3&margin=&score=

[Brazil]

^ to be fair hater is not talking about the last min but the whole 4th quarter

I did not see the numbers tho

[ElNono]

Overall, the Spurs are ranked #9 in total turnovers this season. It certainly needs to get better, but it's not that bad.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tsl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=team_totals&lg_id=NBA&year_min=2015&year_max=2015&franch_id=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=tov#stats::none

[ElNono]

^ to be fair hater is not talking about the last min but the whole 4th quarter

I did not see the numbers tho

For the entire 4th quarter:

Manu Ginobili: 21
Boris Diaw: 13
Tony Parker: 11
Tim Duncan: 10
Aron Baynes: 10
Cory Joseph: 9
Kawhi Leonard: 8
Marco Belinelli: 8
Austin Daye: 8
Danny Green: 6

That said, we've been in very closely contested matches, thus the last few mins TOs gain extra relevance.

[ElNono]

The Spurs are also NOT leading the league in turnovers in the 4th quarter, not even close... :lol

Sixers: 167
Rockets: 153
Kings: 147
Magic: 136
Warriors: 134
Suns: 129
Celtics: 127
Hawks: 126
Nuggets: 125
Jazz: 125
Bucks: 123
Bulls: 123
Knicks: 123
Thunder: 123
Spurs: 122

[Brazil]

For the entire 4th quarter:

Manu Ginobili: 21
Boris Diaw: 13
Tony Parker: 11
Tim Duncan: 10
Aron Baynes: 10
Cory Joseph: 9
Kawhi Leonard: 8
Marco Belinelli: 8
Austin Daye: 8
Danny Green: 6

That said, we've been in very closely contested matches, thus the last few mins TOs gain extra relevance.

thanks mate

not particularly chocking knowing that w/o tp he is the one with the ball... now as we are both saying he is playing too many minutes, it's important everybody come back quick so that rotations can become more balanced

[Mugen]

The Spurs are also NOT leading the league in turnovers in the 4th quarter, not even close... :lol

Sixers: 167
Rockets: 153
Kings: 147
Magic: 136
Warriors: 134
Suns: 129
Celtics: 127
Hawks: 126
Nuggets: 125
Jazz: 125
Bucks: 123
Bulls: 123
Knicks: 123
Thunder: 123
Spurs: 122

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

wonder why.... :lol

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miss you leader...
:lmao

[hater]

For the entire 4th quarter:

Manu Ginobili: 21
Boris Diaw: 13
Tony Parker: 11
Tim Duncan: 10
Aron Baynes: 10
Cory Joseph: 9
Kawhi Leonard: 8
Marco Belinelli: 8
Austin Daye: 8
Danny Green: 6

That said, we've been in very closely contested matches, thus the last few mins TOs gain extra relevance.

Ouch


And yes of course I meant without our leader and saviour

[Horse]

This is the strangest part, they were so reliable. You never really worried cause you knew they would make a run in the 4th. Every yr they start off turning it over but I can't remember it still being a problem in Jan. Either way I imagine they'll get it right.

[ElNono]

no comment on the fact that the Spurs are nowhere near leading the league in TOs in the 4th quarter? :lol

[$pursDynasty]

no comment on the fact that the Spurs are nowhere near leading the league in TOs in the 4th quarter? :lol
I think the correct stat if I heard it right last game is the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter.

[ElNono]

I think the correct stat if I heard it right last game is the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter.

I'll be surprised if it is... we definitely are not leading in TOs in the last 3 mins of the 4th quarter either...

[hater]

I think the correct stat if I heard it right last game is the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter.

yup. Shawn of whatever that nig name is said it. We are also dead last in that stat not surprisingly. It would have been nice if he elaborated more on this thou. I am pretty sure he was also counting Overtimes and possibly not the entire season but the time TP has been out IMO

[Mikeanaro]

If you are not first you are last, but if you are not last... what are you? :bang

[in2deep]

it's fucking pathetic, the way Pop allows guys like Manu turn the ball over like it's nobodys business. fucking pathetic

[Pocho La Pantera]

stupid post as usual.

[dabom]

no comment on the fact that the Spurs are nowhere near leading the league in TOs in the 4th quarter? :lol

good thing nono just bitch slapped hater. :lol

next time hater pulls out shit out of his ass I will ask for proof. cant take that guy at face value. :lol

[Sean Cagney]

it's fucking pathetic, the way Pop allows guys like Manu turn the ball over like it's nobodys business. fucking pathetic

It's not just that it's how they turn it over, unforced at times and just lose the ball right into another players hands. It is like they just throw it to the other team or fumble and fall and it goes right to another player, how the hell do you routinely just turn it over like that? It's like they are paid to do it or do it on purpose but we all know thats not true and they are just turning it over unforced. I don't get it but it has to get better if they are to go anywhere.

[hater]

next time hater pulls out shit out of his ass I will ask for proof. cant take that guy at face value. :lol

was not pulling #s out of nowhere bro. my stats say that while TP is out we been leading the league in TOs in 4qtr and OTs. (unless my stats are wrong)

nono, where are you pulling your #s from? thanks,

[ElNono]

was not pulling #s out of nowhere bro. my stats say that while TP is out we been leading the league in TOs in 4qtr and OTs. (unless my stats are wrong)

nono, where are you pulling your #s from? thanks,

basketball-reference.com... it's linked on some of the posts I made...

Sean probably got bad info... it happens, tbh...

[hater]

basketball-reference.com... it's linked on some of the posts I made...

Sean probably got bad info... it happens, tbh...

thanks same here. will rerun my bash scripts just in case when I get a chance......

[ElNono]

I just bet you will :lol

[Johnny RIngo]

Parker fans unable to back up their delusional claims with actual evidence. Big surprise :lol

[hater]

there you were missing 12 TOs. were you considering the 9 OTs as well??

[in2deep]

It's not just that it's how they turn it over, unforced at times and just lose the ball right into another players hands. It is like they just throw it to the other team or fumble and fall and it goes right to another player, how the hell do you routinely just turn it over like that? It's like they are paid to do it or do it on purpose but we all know thats not true and they are just turning it over unforced. I don't get it but it has to get better if they are to go anywhere.

my only guess is that the late game ballhandlers for us fall into 2 categories. 1 too tired to manage a successful ballhandling routine (Manu) or too inexperienced (Cojo and Mills)

[TMTTRIO]

So is it Manu's fault that Pop still relies on him way too
much and plays him too much when most 37 year olds are at the end of the bench and only play sparingly

[TheGreatYacht]

Thanks for posting as usual. It had to be said

[cd021]

For the entire 4th quarter:

Manu Ginobili: 21
Boris Diaw: 13
Tony Parker: 11
Tim Duncan: 10
Aron Baynes: 10
Cory Joseph: 9
Kawhi Leonard: 8
Marco Belinelli: 8
Austin Daye: 8
Danny Green: 6

That said, we've been in very closely contested matches, thus the last few mins TOs gain extra relevance.

Good find. Manu's had the ball mostly in that situation, its natural for him to turn the ball over more often. Duncan and Diaw combining for 24 T.Os in the 4th would be the bigger story. They are fantastic passers and it throws into question some of their decision making this season.

Duncan passing the ball to Mills who was in the coffin corner and moving away from the ball with a defender trailing him ,closely, wasn't a great decision.

[cd021]

Free Throws have been the biggest issue in the 4th imo.

[diego]

For the entire 4th quarter:

Manu Ginobili: 21
Boris Diaw: 13
Tony Parker: 11
Tim Duncan: 10
Aron Baynes: 10
Cory Joseph: 9
Kawhi Leonard: 8
Marco Belinelli: 8
Austin Daye: 8
Danny Green: 6

That said, we've been in very closely contested matches, thus the last few mins TOs gain extra relevance.

assists in the 4th quarter:
manu 37
cojo 27
diaw 26
green 23
duncan 19
parker 15
bonner 14
leonard 10
anderson 9
beli 8
splitter 8

[KaiRMD1]

Can some old sport explain the Evita thing so I may laugh as well

[james evans]

I don't know the stats, but we've got to be one of the worst free throw shooting teams during the 4th quarter.

[hater]

no Evita inthe 4th was the difference tonight folks :tu

[hater]

For the entire 4th quarter:

Manu Ginobili: 21
Boris Diaw: 13
Tony Parker: 11
Tim Duncan: 10
Aron Baynes: 10
Cory Joseph: 9
Kawhi Leonard: 8
Marco Belinelli: 8
Austin Daye: 8
Danny Green: 6

That said, we've been in very closely contested matches, thus the last few mins TOs gain extra relevance.

Updated:
Manu Ginobili: 27
Boris Diaw: 14
Tony Parker: 13
Tim Duncan: 11
Aron Baynes: 11
Cory Joseph: 10
Austin Daye: 9
Kawhi Leonard: 8
Marco Belinelli: 8
Danny Green: 7

[Technique]

This coming from the poster that said Duncan was done 2 years ago. Calm down bro

[diego]

Updated Assists:
Manu Ginobili: 40 (to 27 TO)
Tony Parker: 16 (to 13 TO)