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BatManu20
01-09-2015, 05:49 PM
Grizz making moves. Improves their team.

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Malik Hairston
01-09-2015, 05:53 PM
Nice move for Phoenix, tbh, they now have 2 competent, athletic Cs..

Jeff Green is one of the most overrated players in the league, but still a huge upgrade for Memphis, tbh..

JMarkJohns
01-09-2015, 05:54 PM
Good acquisition for Suns for price.

BatManu20
01-09-2015, 05:56 PM
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loveforthegame
01-09-2015, 05:56 PM
Damn good trades for both the Suns and Memohis.

BatManu20
01-09-2015, 05:57 PM
Damn :lol

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BatManu20
01-09-2015, 05:57 PM
Damn good trades for both the Suns and Memohis.

Agreed. Great moves by both parties for the price.

Spur-Addict
01-09-2015, 06:01 PM
Damn :lol

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Wow.

313
01-09-2015, 06:01 PM
Damn :lol

553686703505162241That's how you rebuild :lol

313
01-09-2015, 06:02 PM
Meanwhile Spurs standing pat per par

BatManu20
01-09-2015, 06:05 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2015, 06:13 PM
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Robz4000
01-09-2015, 06:19 PM
Great trades for both teams, but it doesn't really move the needle for either.

BatManu20
01-09-2015, 06:25 PM
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Malik Hairston
01-09-2015, 06:28 PM
I wonder how Memphis is going to utilize Green, tbh..he's a mediocre shooter and not a playmaker..6th man?

BatManu20
01-09-2015, 06:31 PM
I wonder how Memphis is going to utilize Green, tbh..he's a mediocre shooter and not a playmaker..6th man?

No way imo. He'll slide right into that 3 spot now vacated by Prince. Starting Allen & Lee at the same time wouldn't work.

BatManu20
01-09-2015, 06:53 PM
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Koolaid_Man
01-09-2015, 06:58 PM
11 gotdam 1st rd picks? WTF....gotdayum Chaz and Fredo....Celtics might be shit but at least they control their own destiny

Splits
01-09-2015, 07:04 PM
11 gotdam 1st rd picks? WTF....gotdayum Chaz and Fredo....Celtics might be shit but at least they control their own destiny

L:lolkers

JMarkJohns
01-09-2015, 07:08 PM
Great trades for both teams, but it doesn't really move the needle for either.

It's not a move that'll put the Suns into top-3, but this is a huge answer to their most glaring need, increases frontcourt depth, and for a team with an inordinate amount of close losses, shoring up their defense near the basket, improving rebounding, and getting a crafty finisher near the rim could provide the 4-5 points per game that takes Phoenix from 7-9 to 4-6.

They have shooting, guard play, midrange, perimeter, depth, but were young up front, prone to foul trouble, so Wright adds increased, more savvy Defense, and allows Plumlee to be more of the athletic hustle bum he truly is.

Spurs, Clippers, Rockets, they all have enough issues and the Suns the Suns can now compete with them until they get their shit together, if they get their shit together.

And for as overrated as Green can be, his all-around game, size, and versatility really complement this current Memphis squad. Adds quite a bit without losing much.

Koolaid_Man
01-09-2015, 07:10 PM
I think the shit is unfair.....none of the players I had hoped for will be available this summer...fuck basketball at this time....just fuck it

spurraider21
01-09-2015, 07:13 PM
Damn :lol

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That's how you rebuild :lol
Trading Pierce and KG was an obvious play, but it was still bold to pull that and try to sell it to the fans.

Better than paying them 48.5 tho, tbh

Dverde
01-09-2015, 07:36 PM
Memphis gets better without Rudy Gay, they then trade for Rudy Gay's twin in Jeff Green.

313
01-09-2015, 07:44 PM
Memphis gets better without Rudy Gay, they then trade for Rudy Gay's twin in Jeff Green.better than the corpse of tayshaun prince

LnGrrrR
01-09-2015, 08:53 PM
Ainge doesn't do things halfway.

I hope he is planning to roll some of these picks over until they are unprotected.

cd021
01-09-2015, 09:15 PM
I wonder how Memphis is going to utilize Green, tbh..he's a mediocre shooter and not a playmaker..6th man?

Don't they start Lee and Allen? I would start Green at the 3 and have Allen off the bench.

JMarkJohns
01-09-2015, 09:16 PM
Ainge doesn't do things halfway.

I hope he is planning to roll some of these picks over until they are unprotected.

Do you still think Ainge has hardon for Love?

I think someone can/will sign him away from Cavs in offseason.

baseline bum
01-09-2015, 09:22 PM
Ainge doesn't do things halfway.

I hope he is planning to roll some of these picks over until they are unprotected.

No McHale to gift him Garnett this time though.

baseline bum
01-09-2015, 09:24 PM
Do you still think Ainge has hardon for Love?

I think someone can/will sign him away from Cavs in offseason.

No way Cavs don't pay him the max, not when James can walk in a year.

ace3g
01-09-2015, 09:37 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Yahoo Sources: Boston, Memphis and New Orleans working framework of Green to Grizz, Pondexter to Pelicans, Prince/Salmons/pick to Celtics.


Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Memphis discussing Pondexter trades on several fronts, but focus is three-way deal with him going to New Orleans, sources tell Yahoo.

JMarkJohns
01-09-2015, 09:40 PM
No way Cavs don't pay him the max, not when James can walk in a year.

He's unrestricted. He's gaining first-hand experience of Bosh's warning, and, frankly, I think Kevin loves his stats and stardom more than barely winning more in third-wheeldom than he did as unquestioned #1.

He stays in the East, is #1, gets his stats, his money, his fame, and with Ainge, a savvy GM capable of bringing in complementary pieces via trade/draft.

baseline bum
01-09-2015, 10:22 PM
He's unrestricted. He's gaining first-hand experience of Bosh's warning, and, frankly, I think Kevin loves his stats and stardom more than barely winning more in third-wheeldom than he did as unquestioned #1.

He stays in the East, is #1, gets his stats, his money, his fame, and with Ainge, a savvy GM capable of bringing in complementary pieces via trade/draft.

Man would that be hilarious now that Wiggins has really been blowing up the last few weeks.

JMarkJohns
01-09-2015, 10:47 PM
Man would that be hilarious now that Wiggins has really been blowing up the last few weeks.

Might not, but the way he did Minny, I don't think he's going to like being scapegoated by the Cavs when they crash and burn. Seeing Bosh's mini-revival this year, he might opt to get the fuck out while he's in control and Boston has the CAP, the picks, the market that he'd love.

LnGrrrR
01-09-2015, 11:21 PM
Love would be the great white hope. Boston fans would likely fall head over heels for him.

Robz4000
01-09-2015, 11:25 PM
Love is going to LA. He'll suck it up playing with Kirby for a year so he can be the top dog afterwards. In that situation I'd really wanna see Kirby sign for another 48.5.

JMarkJohns
01-09-2015, 11:34 PM
Love is going to LA. He'll suck it up playing with Kirby for a year so he can be the top dog afterwards. In that situation I'd really wanna see Kirby sign for another 48.5.

He's done the LA thing... In college. East Coast has draw since crappy teams make the playoffs, and, for all the star power LA has, Boston will fall all over themselves for Love.

Lakers don't have the draw they once did. They aren't even the grandest show in town.

Love, if he leaves, will be fleeing a ball-dominant situation. He's not going to suffer Kobe and a half-dozen years to rebuild in a loaded West. Would have been better to stay in Minny.

100%duncan
01-09-2015, 11:46 PM
Great move by the 3 teams.

Robz4000
01-09-2015, 11:54 PM
He's done the LA thing... In college. East Coast has draw since crappy teams make the playoffs, and, for all the star power LA has, Boston will fall all over themselves for Love.

Lakers don't have the draw they once did. They aren't even the grandest show in town.

Love, if he leaves, will be fleeing a ball-dominant situation. He's not going to suffer Kobe and a half-dozen years to rebuild in a loaded West. Would have been better to stay in Minny.

He isn't that aware imo. He sees LA and thinks of the Lakers of old.

JMarkJohns
01-10-2015, 12:07 AM
I don't see it.

Maybe, but he toughed it out west for way too long. He's still young enough that he, Smart and a shit ton of 1sts makes the playoffs in the East.

TheCultOfPersonality
01-10-2015, 08:39 AM
So I guess the deal is this:

Grizzlies get: Jeff Green and Russ Smith
Celtics get: Tayshaun Prince, John Salmons, the Grizzlies 1st round pick
Pelicans gets: Quincy Pondexter

Good trade. :tu

I'm aware that Jeff Green has his flaws, but he's an upgrade over what the Grizzlies have.

Like to for the Grizzlies to upgrade the backup PF position if they can.

Pelicans78
01-10-2015, 08:57 AM
Not sure why the Pelicans are willing to help out the Grizzlies just to get Q-Pon.

DMC
01-10-2015, 11:33 AM
:wakeup

JamStone
01-10-2015, 01:02 PM
Damn :lol

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Likely not as good as it first appears on paper.

"Potentially" is an important word there as I would guess several of those picks are conditional/protected first round picks for a number of years. And I would also guess that several of those picks end up being mid to late first round picks. Would be more impressive if it were 11 guaranteed lottery picks. Then we could talk about how that is how you rebuild. People on these boards laugh about the Lakers giving all those picks to Phoenix for Nash. So far, who did Phoenix draft with those picks anyway? Nemanja Nedovic, Alex Oriakhi?

First round picks may or may not be valuable. Depends what the team does with them and how good their scouting and drafting people are.

DPG21920
01-10-2015, 01:18 PM
They are valuable regardless of what you do with them. Just because you blow a pick, doesn't mean the asset wasn't a valuable one. He won't keep all the picks either. He will overpay (which he should) to move up in drafts and trade for other players he likes. You don't need 11 draft picks - that's a ton of roster spots and could create long-term issues.

benstanfield
01-10-2015, 01:28 PM
Crazy how far name recognition will take you in the NBA. Jeff Green is and always has been mediocre. He isn't a good enough 3pt shooter for it to matter and has no midrange game whatsoever, so it's difficult to see him paired with Gasol and ZBo on the court tbh. Throw in Tony Allen and you could basically guard Conley and send everyone else to stand in the lane. I always prefer defensive players like Allen to start and not come off the bench, as it makes no sense to sick Allen on backups to me. But I think they have to keep Lee in the lineup for spacing. It might be interesting to have Green come off the bench at PF with one of Gasol or Randolph. I guess I just think they shoulda pursued Teletovic, Frye, or Ryan Anderson and not a mediocre tweener forward that can't really shoot. They traded Tay Prince and a first for a minor upgrade with pretty bad career playoff stats. Can't help but think that having Prince in the locker room in the Playoffs woulda counted for something.

Pelicans78
01-10-2015, 01:59 PM
Green would be best suited as a backup PF/SF getting around 20-25 minutes.

ace3g
01-10-2015, 02:39 PM
Marc Stein (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)
@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)


ESPN sources say New Orleans is poised to join Memphis/Boston deal for Jeff Green ... with Austin Rivers going to Celts

LakerHater
01-10-2015, 03:09 PM
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100%duncan
01-10-2015, 03:12 PM
I don't get the love for QPon? Is he anything special? Am i missing something

Raven
01-10-2015, 03:21 PM
I think the shit is unfair.....none of the players I had hoped for will be available this summer...fuck basketball at this time....just fuck it

didn't we tell you so?

Raven
01-10-2015, 03:22 PM
Memphis gets better without Rudy Gay, they then trade for Rudy Gay's twin in Jeff Green.

obviously, they weren't better without him...

Mr Bones
01-10-2015, 03:29 PM
Likely not as good as it first appears on paper.

"Potentially" is an important word there as I would guess several of those picks are conditional/protected first round picks for a number of years. And I would also guess that several of those picks end up being mid to late first round picks. Would be more impressive if it were 11 guaranteed lottery picks. Then we could talk about how that is how you rebuild. People on these boards laugh about the Lakers giving all those picks to Phoenix for Nash. So far, who did Phoenix draft with those picks anyway? Nemanja Nedovic, Alex Oriakhi?

First round picks may or may not be valuable. Depends what the team does with them and how good their scouting and drafting people are.

Any way you look at it, 11 picks is two years is a great thing for a GM to have. It gives Ainge a whole bunch of options.

Axl Rose
01-10-2015, 04:00 PM
It's not a move that'll put the Suns into top-3, but this is a huge answer to their most glaring need, increases frontcourt depth, and for a team with an inordinate amount of close losses, shoring up their defense near the basket, improving rebounding, and getting a crafty finisher near the rim could provide the 4-5 points per game that takes Phoenix from 7-9 to 4-6.

They have shooting, guard play, midrange, perimeter, depth, but were young up front, prone to foul trouble, so Wright adds increased, more savvy Defense, and allows Plumlee to be more of the athletic hustle bum he truly is.

Spurs, Clippers, Rockets, they all have enough issues and the Suns the Suns can now compete with them until they get their shit together, if they get their shit together.

And for as overrated as Green can be, his all-around game, size, and versatility really complement this current Memphis squad. Adds quite a bit without losing much.
good luck expecting defense out of brandan wright

JamStone
01-10-2015, 04:14 PM
Any way you look at it, 11 picks is two years is a great thing for a GM to have. It gives Ainge a whole bunch of options.

Yeah, I'd be more inclined to agree that would be.

But it's not two years. It's four years. And again, it's not guaranteed, as some of those picks are conditional/protected and some can turn into second round picks.

Splits
01-10-2015, 04:20 PM
I don't understand what in hollinger the Grizz are thinking giving up so much for Jeff fucking Green

phxspurfan
01-10-2015, 04:47 PM
Not sure why the Pelicans are willing to help out the Grizzlies just to get Q-Pon.

lol "Q-Pon"


puns for daysss

phxspurfan
01-10-2015, 04:48 PM
I don't understand what in hollinger the Grizz are thinking giving up so much for Jeff fucking Green

He's their new Rudy Gay, without the drama

Malik Hairston
01-10-2015, 04:53 PM
Jeff Green isn't even half the player Rudy Gay is, tbh, and I say that as a hater of Gay's game..

Green is one of the most overrated players of my generation, I've been saying it for years..like many others, he gets really overrated because of the way he looks..he's tall, athletic and has a nice wingspan, so he "looks" better than he actually is..see: Chandler Parsons, Nic Batum, etc(although both of those players are better than him)..

Pelicans78
01-10-2015, 04:53 PM
Thank goodness Rivers is finally gone. Hated the draft pick from day one.

Malik Hairston
01-10-2015, 04:55 PM
Pelicans win the trade by finally removing one of the worst players in NBA history from their roster:lol..

I wonder how long the "Tom Rivers's son card" will allow him to remain on NBA rosters..

timtonymanu
01-10-2015, 05:15 PM
:lol is Boston trying to get Tom Rivers back by trading for his son?

BatManu20
01-10-2015, 06:17 PM
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LakerHater
01-10-2015, 06:33 PM
Rivers to Clippers!

apalisoc_9
01-10-2015, 06:52 PM
They finally get rid of rivers..:lol

They should prioritize getting rid of evans tbh..A huge cancer and a detriment to the best player in the world.

LakerHater
01-10-2015, 06:56 PM
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BatManu20
01-10-2015, 06:58 PM
Not even Doc wants him on his team :lol

BatManu20
01-10-2015, 07:10 PM
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BatManu20
01-10-2015, 07:13 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-10-2015, 07:16 PM
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Clipper Nation

Franklin
01-10-2015, 07:52 PM
Now even the Suns have strengthened their paint... when the hell are we gonna sign Jermaine, tbh?

HemisfairArena
01-10-2015, 08:39 PM
Ainge setting up another coup to trade for a run. He traded all kinds of picks to get Garnett and Allen. He's not gonna sit on all these 1st rounders and wait for a rebuild,,,he's gonna use them for trade bait to land talent.

BatManu20
01-10-2015, 08:44 PM
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LakerHater
01-11-2015, 12:46 AM
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TheCultOfPersonality
01-11-2015, 06:50 AM
I don't get the love for QPon? Is he anything special? Am i missing something
No he sucks.

He had one fluke series against the Spurs in the WCF (which got him paid imo) and since then he's been garbage.

I think the Grizzlies were hoping he would be a 3 and D guy for them, but he can't shoot and he's not a defensive stopper. TBH I don't think he excels at anything.

TheCultOfPersonality
01-11-2015, 06:51 AM
I don't understand what in hollinger the Grizz are thinking giving up so much for Jeff fucking Green
WTF! The Grizzlies gave up Quincy Pondexter and Tayshaun Prince. Two 3rd string caliber scrubs who wouldn't be rotation players on any Western Conference playoff team outside of Memphis. How was that giving up to much?

100%duncan
01-11-2015, 06:55 AM
No he sucks.

He had one fluke series against the Spurs in the WCF (which got him paid imo) and since then he's been garbage.

I think the Grizzlies were hoping he would be a 3 and D guy for them, but he can't shoot and he's not a defensive stopper. TBH I don't think he excels at anything.

Yah that's what I remember from him, that series. Anyway, Jeff Green is a huge upgrade for you. I assume he slips right into the starting line up with a solid VC backing him up?

TheCultOfPersonality
01-11-2015, 08:27 AM
Yah that's what I remember from him, that series. Anyway, Jeff Green is a huge upgrade for you. I assume he slips right into the starting line up with a solid VC backing him up?
He could possibly start although I wouldn't be surprise to see him come off the bench on the first game like Houston did with Josh Smith.

TheCultOfPersonality
01-11-2015, 08:47 AM
Pelicans win the trade by finally removing one of the worst players in NBA history from their roster:lol..

I wonder how long the "Tom Rivers's son card" will allow him to remain on NBA rosters..Not sure how the Pelicans won the trade when they got back the worst player in the trade and he's on the books til 2018.

ace3g
01-11-2015, 12:53 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Yahoo Sources: LAC working to find third team to help deliver Boston expiring deal to go w/ second rounder that C's want for Austin Rivers

Mugen
01-11-2015, 12:57 PM
Lot of teams making irrelevant moves so far this season. Props to Doc for finding one of the few worse players than Dumbo Farmar tbh.

Chinook
01-11-2015, 01:02 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Yahoo Sources: LAC working to find third team to help deliver Boston expiring deal to go w/ second rounder that C's want for Austin Rivers



Ayres and Daye for Bullock/Wilcox (using De Colo TE) and Udoh. Then Ayres and a second for Rivers.

Celts get their expiring. Clips get their player. Spurs get a decent TE for Ayres and get a young big who's flashed legit defensive skills along with a decent wing prospect.

ace3g
01-11-2015, 04:51 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Sources: Boston, Memphis and New Orleans agree on five-player trade sending Jeff Green to Grizzlies. Trade call Monday.


The Boston Celtics, Memphis Grizzlies and New Orleans Pelicans have agreed on a three-team, five-player trade that sends Jeff Green to the Grizzlies, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

The trade will send the Grizzlies' Tayshaun Prince, New Orleans' Austin Rivers and a future Memphis first-round pick to the Celtics, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Memphis will send forward Quincy Pondexter and a 2015 second-round pick to the Pelicans and the Pelicans will move guard Russ Smith to the Grizzlies, sources said. The Grizzlies held Prince and Pondexter out of Sunday's game against the Phoenix Suns.

The teams will have a trade call with the league on Monday to make the deal official, sources said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--grizzlies-finalizing-trade-to-acquire-jeff-green-233202107.html