Enrique is done!! [Archive] - Page 2

Ditty

01-23-2015, 03:10 PM

How exactly did Tony Parker receive "legend" status with the Spurs? Sure, it's not surprising that the same organization that retired the numbers of Avery Johnson and Bruce Bowen(although I love Bruce as much as any Spurs fan) would inflate the legacy and impact of a good(not great) player like Parker, but legend?

Outside of the 2007 and 2013(until the most important games of the season, 6&7 vs. Miami) playoffs, this nigga has been a constant playoff under-achiever..the Spurs were never able to rely on him to show up in big games, it was essentially always Duncan and Ginobili + the role players(Bruce, Horry, all the guys from last year, etc)..

It seems like Spurs fans have forgotten, though, as they actually have the audacity to mock Chris Paul and others for their playoff failures, when in reality, our "legendary" PG has been a constant playoff disappointment..

Parker had a great 2012 postseason on both sides of the ball imo.

If Diaw, Ginobili, and Green showed up marginally in game six then Spurs go to the finals, and have a have a hell of a finals with Miami tbh

FuzzyLumpkins

01-23-2015, 03:20 PM

Parker Thread!

Diego20

01-23-2015, 04:59 PM

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/12/sort/DRPM

http://i62.tinypic.com/r7mxwh.png

Hey, he's not that bad, barely 460 out of 463 NBA players of all positions when it comes to DRPM.

Imagine if he didn't have Green/Leonard guarding those all star back courts night after night, or Splitter/Duncan in the paint...And the Spurs weren't trying to hide him on scrubs either.

Last year they hid him on Jackson against Okc who had a bum ankle.

What BS are Enrique fans going to say now? :cry

Johnny RIngo

01-23-2015, 05:58 PM

Parker had a great 2012 postseason on both sides of the ball imo.

If Diaw, Ginobili, and Green showed up marginally in game six then Spurs go to the finals, and have a have a hell of a finals with Miami tbh

What is it with Tony Parker apologists always blaming other players for poor game 6 performances? Parker's the worst game 6 performer of the big three. He's made a career of never showing up in game 6. Career stats when playing a game six in the playoffs:

Duncan in game 6s(18 games):
21.1 ppg on 53.3 TS%
12.6 rpg
3.67 apg
2.61 bpg
0.77 spg
2.38 TOs
18.8 GmSc

Manu in game 6s(18 games):
15.5 ppg on 56.2 TS%
5.33 rpg
4.00 apg
0.06 bpg
1.83 spg
2.3 TOs
12.1 GmSc

Parker in game 6s(18 games):
16.3 ppg on 45.6 TS% :lol
2.56 rpg
4.61 apg
0.17 bpg
0.72 spg
2.6 TOs
8.8 GmSc

james evans

01-23-2015, 06:00 PM

Make some good points here. 09 I see your point but Josh Howard and Terry were raping everyone even Hill (who was lost the whole game 5 on defense), Bowen, Finley, Udoka who were okay defenders at that time. '10 Nash was destroying Hill also, Dragic had one fluke game . 11' was the only year I can say that Parker was getting completely outplayed on both ends by Conley, but you can make an argument how the whole team was getting outplayed but blame it on Parker :cry. Parker did redeem himself greatly playing well on both ends against Conley, Paul, Curry (when guarded him) and (2012)Westbrook. Yeah Parker isn't an "elite" defender, and hasn't been pretty bad this year for the most part on both, but to say he has been horrible his whole career again is dumb to say the least.
barrea did kill him in 09 and u can forget Dragic's record setting 4th quarter in 2010?

Mikeanaro

01-23-2015, 06:07 PM

What is it with Tony Parker apologists always blaming other players for poor game 6 performances? Parker's the worst game 6 performer of the big three. He's made a career of never showing up in game 6. Career stats when playing a game six in the playoffs:

Duncan in game 6s(18 games):
21.1 ppg on 53.3 TS%
12.6 rpg
3.67 apg
2.61 bpg
0.77 spg
2.38 TOs
18.8 GmSc

Manu in game 6s(18 games):
15.5 ppg on 56.2 TS%
5.33 rpg
4.00 apg
0.06 bpg
1.83 spg
2.3 TOs
12.1 GmSc

Parker in game 6s(18 games):
16.3 ppg on 45.6 TS% :lol
2.56 rpg
4.61 apg
0.17 bpg
0.72 spg
2.6 TOs
8.8 GmSc
Very interesting data, let´s see how Parktards spin that.

Ditty

01-23-2015, 07:29 PM

barrea did kill him in 09 and u can forget Dragic's record setting 4th quarter in 2010?

Barea's scorching 10 ppg while shooting 43% that series really destroyed us :(

Yeah I mentioned Dragic's one game, but guess who was guarding him and kept switching screens that caused Dejuan Blair to guard the hottest player on the floor? George Hill.

:cry but but it's Tony's fault :cry

Ditty

01-23-2015, 07:32 PM

What is it with Tony Parker apologists always blaming other players for poor game 6 performances? Parker's the worst game 6 performer of the big three. He's made a career of never showing up in game 6. Career stats when playing a game six in the playoffs:

Duncan in game 6s(18 games):
21.1 ppg on 53.3 TS%
12.6 rpg
3.67 apg
2.61 bpg
0.77 spg
2.38 TOs
18.8 GmSc

Manu in game 6s(18 games):
15.5 ppg on 56.2 TS%
5.33 rpg
4.00 apg
0.06 bpg
1.83 spg
2.3 TOs
12.1 GmSc

Parker in game 6s(18 games):
16.3 ppg on 45.6 TS% :lol
2.56 rpg
4.61 apg
0.17 bpg
0.72 spg
2.6 TOs
8.8 GmSc

because if someone outside of Duncan,Parker and Jackson played well we would of went to game seven against OKC on our home court?

How about game six in the Miami series when Tony made two clutch baskets, and key defensive play when the rest of the team choked the game away?

Diego20

01-23-2015, 08:30 PM

because if someone outside of Duncan,Parker and Jackson played well we would of went to game seven against OKC on our home court?

How about game six in the Miami series when Tony made two clutch baskets, and key defensive play when the rest of the team choked the game away?

Enrique Parker:

Game 7 of 2013 finals: 10 pts (3-12 FG, 25%), 2 turnovers

Game 6 of 2013 finals: 19 points (6-23 FG LOL, 26%)

So, last two games when we needed him the most 9-35 FG :lmao

Game 2 of 2013 finals: 13 points (5-14 FG, 35%), 5 turnovers that costed us that game.

And finally game only 6 points (we won that game easily so he only played 27 minutes).

Johnny RIngo

01-23-2015, 08:37 PM

Enrique Parker:

Game 7 of 2013 finals: 10 pts (3-12 FG, 25%), 2 turnovers

Game 6 of 2013 finals: 19 points (6-23 FG LOL, 26%)

So, last two games when we needed him the most 9-35 FG :lmao

Game 2 of 2013 finals: 13 points (5-14 FG, 35%), 5 turnovers that costed us that game.

And finally game only 6 points (we won that game easily so he only played 27 minutes).

:cry but he made two baskets near the end of the game so all those missed shots don't matter :cry

Russ

01-23-2015, 08:40 PM

Ditty

01-23-2015, 08:44 PM

Enrique Parker:

Game 7 of 2013 finals: 10 pts (3-12 FG, 25%), 2 turnovers

Game 6 of 2013 finals: 19 points (6-23 FG LOL, 26%)

So, last two games when we needed him the most 9-35 FG :lmao

Game 2 of 2013 finals: 13 points (5-14 FG, 35%), 5 turnovers that costed us that game.

And finally game only 6 points (we won that game easily so he only played 27 minutes).

Manu Ginobili:

Game 2 of 2013 finals: 5 points (2-6 FG 33%)
Game 4 of 2013 finals: 5 points (1-5 FG 20%)

Game 6 of 2013 finals: 9 points (2-5 FG 40%), 8 turnovers

all loses also. Your point? :lol

Ditty

01-23-2015, 08:47 PM

:cry but he made two baskets near the end of the game so all those missed shots don't matter :cry

:cry yeah two clutch basket because the whole team choked at the end of the 3rd and beginning of the fourth quarter :cry

Johnny RIngo

01-23-2015, 09:05 PM

:cry 26% shooting in game 6...TP is so clutch guys :cry

james evans

01-23-2015, 09:56 PM

james evans

01-23-2015, 09:59 PM

Outside of Iverson, TP Is the best penetrating in-the-paint-scoring little man I've seen.

People take it for granted that any decent point guard can do that. Try watching Chris Paul or the guy in Brooklyn . . .
u ever seen rod stricklan in his prime? this guy could get in the lane any time he wanted and how he wanted. I used to joke with my boys and call him the king of layups. but he doesn't have the rings of a tony parker so we ignore guys like him.

james evans

01-23-2015, 10:01 PM

:cry yeah two clutch basket because the whole team choked at the end of the 3rd and beginning of the fourth quarter :cry
did u watch the game, cuz it was popovich that sat the starters. it was bad coaching all around from sitting the starters, taking out duncan twice at the end of regulation, and putting a 60% freethrow shooter in to ice the game. Plus he left ginobli on the floor to keep turning the fuking ball over

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 10:37 PM

Diego20

01-23-2015, 10:47 PM

Manu Ginobili:

Game 2 of 2013 finals: 5 points (2-6 FG 33%)
Game 4 of 2013 finals: 5 points (1-5 FG 20%)

Game 6 of 2013 finals: 9 points (2-5 FG 40%), 8 turnovers

all loses also. Your point? :lol

Just saying Enrique didn't play well against Miami in the 2013 finals, I didn't say anything about Manu.

apalisoc_9

01-23-2015, 10:49 PM

Just saying Enrique didn't play well against Miami in the 2013 finals, I didn't say anything about Manu.

did you see the third quarter today man?

Parker took over 6 shots that led to the Lakers winning the third..

He purposly ignored Kawhi's calling for the ball when he had Swaggy P on him..

Unreal.

Diego20

01-23-2015, 10:52 PM

:lmao

You don't laugh about Enrique % FG in that finals???

:cry

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 10:52 PM

Wait.. Wait.. Wait hold the fuck up. Did I just see "KL2" say PARKER is a system player?! "KL2"... :lmao

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 10:55 PM

You don't laugh about Enrique % FG in that finals???

:cry
You won't bring up Parker setting up Green on all his 3's :(

You won't bring up his PLAYOFF numbers :(

You ignore the fact that Manu is arguably having a worse season than 2013 :lol

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 10:56 PM

Parker leading the team in scoring AND assists :tu

17pts in 22 minutes :tu

Mikeanaro

01-23-2015, 10:56 PM

did you see the third quarter today man?

Parker took over 6 shots that led to the Lakers winning the third..

He purposly ignored Kawhi's calling for the ball when he had Swaggy P on him..

Unreal.
Nono, Parktards will defend him saying he needed those 6 shots to ¨recalibrate the machine and lead us to success¨
:meeting: Spurs go as far as Parkner goes
:fight:fight:fight

NASpurs

01-23-2015, 10:56 PM

You ignore the fact that Manu is arguably having a worse season than 2013 :lol

:lol at 37 and about to retire. You can't be this stupid :lol

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 10:58 PM

:lol at 37 and about to retire. You can't be this stupid :lol
Dude got paid 14 Million in 2013 :lol
Cost the Spurs a championship :lol
Hopeless Argies comparing his game to MVPHarden :lol

Mikeanaro

01-23-2015, 11:01 PM

Dude got paid 14 Million in 2013 :lol
Cost the Spurs a championship :lol
Hopeless Argies comparing his game to MVPHarden :lol
LOL YOU ROCK MAN!
MVPHARDEN! THATS AN OXYMORON! :lmao

Diego20

01-23-2015, 11:01 PM

Dude got paid 14 Million in 2013 :lol
Cost the Spurs a championship :lol
Hopeless Argies comparing his game to MVPHarden :lol

Manu was overpaid one season, Enrique will be overpaid 3 or 4 seasons? :lmao

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 11:04 PM

Manu was overpaid one season, Enrique will be overpaid 3 or 4 seasons? :lmao
I've stated nothing but facts. You're predicting :lol

Parker's been underpaid his whole career, Fact.

Diego20

01-23-2015, 11:07 PM

I've stated nothing but facts. You're predicting :lol

Parker's been underpaid his whole career, Fact.

But Manu hasnt been underpaid his whole career? :lmao Enrique fans...

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 11:10 PM

But Manu hasnt been underpaid his whole career? :lmao Enrique fans...
No. Why would RC pay our injury prone 6th man, even more?

Diego20

01-23-2015, 11:13 PM

No. Why would RC pay our injury prone 6th man, even more?

Meanwhile others players that aren't "Injury prone" aren't even playing in the NBA :lmao, still playing in the NBA at 37 , love that Injury prone :cry

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 11:18 PM

Meanwhile others players that aren't "Injury prone" aren't even playing in the NBA :lmao, still playing in the NBA at 37 , love that Injury prone :cry
Well those players were forced to play >30MPG

FkLA

01-23-2015, 11:20 PM

MVParker is back!!

Enrique fanboys :rollin

Diego20

01-23-2015, 11:21 PM

Well those players were forced to play >30MPG

Blame Pop for Manu not playing 30MPG, he averaged 30MPG in 2 seasons, in both he led the Spurs in scoring.

ChumpDumper

01-23-2015, 11:22 PM

Manu would be retired had his minutes not been monitored.

Diego20

01-23-2015, 11:23 PM

Manu would be retired had his minutes not been monitored.

You don't know that :lol

FkLA

01-23-2015, 11:24 PM

Enrique won't even be in the NBA at age 37 yet his fanboys want to bad mouth a Spurs legend like Manu competing at that age. :lol

ChumpDumper

01-23-2015, 11:26 PM

You don't know that :lolIt's a fair bet.

He'd probably be limping around in the Argentinian league or something.

TheGreatYacht

01-23-2015, 11:28 PM

Enrique won't even be in the NBA at age 37 yet his fanboys want to bad mouth a Spurs legend like Manu competing at that age. :lol
That's respectable. He would've been in the league for nearly 20 years

Not everyone started playing in the big leagues at Age 25, you know..

Diego20

01-23-2015, 11:29 PM

Well maybe if Manu didn't defend in his whole career like SOMEONE he would average more minutes..

:lmao

pgardn

01-23-2015, 11:50 PM

Manu v. Tony yet again...

Exhausting stuff.

Johnny RIngo

01-24-2015, 02:32 AM

MVParker is back!!

Enrique fanboys :rollin

Predictable shit from the least knowledgeable fanbase on Spurstalk. I posted this in the game thread hours before the Lakers game:

Parker just got embarrassed on national tv by a rival point guard. He'll be looking to make a point tonight by trying to score as much as possible on a shitty Lakers team. LA has some of the worst PG defense in the league so TP will probably have a decent showing. Parker apologists will use this as an example that "Tony's still got it".

BatManu20

01-24-2015, 02:35 AM

Sure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8GTbmIIQAARPYy.jpg

apalisoc_9

01-24-2015, 02:41 AM

Predictable shit from the least knowledgeable fanbase on Spurstalk. I posted this in the game thread hours before the Lakers game:

Good call brah..

He still couldn't steal Leonard's thunder though..with 14 boards he beasted.

FkLA

02-04-2015, 11:27 PM

timtonymanu

02-04-2015, 11:28 PM

:cry Clutch 3. MVParker hater!

midnightpulp

02-04-2015, 11:29 PM

Stick a fork in him tbh.

I know he had a couple of assisted threes to make his numbers reasonable but he basically got outplayed by a 20 year old rookie PG the large majority of the game. Couldn't penetrate and couldn't stay in front of anyone. So is this dude basically just a low volume, high percentage three point shooter now? $14 mill per year to have him make 30 threes by the all-star break?

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/12/sort/RPM

I'm gonna start calling Enrique Page 12.

apalisoc_9

02-04-2015, 11:30 PM

Stick a fork in him tbh.

I know he had a couple of assisted threes to make his numbers reasonable but he basically got outplayed by a 20 year old rookie PG the large majority of the game. Couldn't penetrate and couldn't stay in front of anyone. So is this dude basically just a low volume, high percentage three point shooter now? $14 mill per year to have him make 30 threes by the all-star break?

He's a cancer too both offensively and defensively.

15 Points in 15 shots and Parker fans are happy...damn, it's scary how Player fans cheer for 15 points in 15 shots now....

Slowly I am starting to believe the spurs are done because Pop is too stuborn to reduce Parker's role...

FkLA

02-04-2015, 11:40 PM

Yeah, our Spurs look fucking horrible and I'm geniunely starting to think Enrique is the cancer. Almost everybody on the team has a solid game and the Spurs barely manage to squeak out a win vs a team that's lost 10 straight. We didn't even look this bad when both Enrique and Kawhi were out and we all know Kawhi isn't the problem tbh.

apalisoc_9

02-04-2015, 11:42 PM

Only Lavine and Bennet are behind Tony in Real Plus Minus..

:lmao

Clipper Nation

02-04-2015, 11:43 PM

15 Points in 15 shots and Parker fans are happy...damn, it's scary how Player fans cheer for 15 points in 15 shots now....

The funny thing is that those hypocrites mock Lakerfan for doing the exact same thing with Kirby.

FkLA

02-04-2015, 11:47 PM

It's especially annoying when Green or even Patty occasionally miss a defensive assignment and they're immediately benched. Or when they're in a shooting slump their minutes are slashed. This despite the fact that they're still clear net positives on both sides of the ball.

Not Enrique though. He can statistically be a bottom 5 player in the NBA on both sides of the ball and he's still treated like MVParker!

ChumpDumper

02-04-2015, 11:57 PM

lol

FireMicoHalili

02-05-2015, 12:04 AM

Stick a fork in him tbh.

I know he had a couple of assisted threes to make his numbers reasonable but he basically got outplayed by a 20 year old rookie PG the large majority of the game. Couldn't penetrate and couldn't stay in front of anyone. So is this dude basically just a low volume, high percentage three point shooter now? $14 mill per year to have him make 30 threes by the all-star break?
some people just can't be happy the team is winning games while trying to recuperate from a rash of injuries sheesh