TP performances for French National Team

[Admidave50]

Hi, I decided to create a topic on TP's game as he's going to play a lot of games
during the European Tournament. It will be pretty interesting to see if he has improved his shot during summer even though he hasn't practiced much with our new Shooting coach (what's his name btw?)!

There is France vs Russia tonight at 7:45pm (paris time), I'll watch the game and tell you how Parker did.

TP vs Kirlienko :angel

For those who missed the France-Turkey last time, don't miss this one on Sport+ (Canal Satellite).

[Solid D]

Chip Engelland

If it was Chip France, he would have already given up on Tony. :smokin

[1Parker1]

Thanks, I for one would appreciate the recaps :)

[JUUOT]

:pctoss i wish we could see it too...

[Admidave50]

This is an article from "L'equipe" (a French newspaper).

"This year, I've seen what were my limits concerning my shoot. The years before, I've never wanted to change it. My priority was to prove that I can play in the NBA. I didn't want to admit that I had to change my shooting technique to improve in 2, 3 years.
But last season, I wasn't good and I told myself that I needed to react."

He decided to analyse his gesture, adjust it without changing everything
"I'm warning you that I'm not trying to change completely my shoot"
Helped by the new shooting coach, Chip Engelland, he worked one week at L.A. this summer and then during the mini-break with the French team last week. He worked in paris during 3 days to get new sensations.

The idea is simple: to recreate in a long distance his gesture when he's
doing his "tear drop" shot, this shot at one hand that he masters perfectly.
In the facts, TP has then learnt how to put his thumb correctly on the ball
in order to shoot better.
"I never used it before when I was shooting. While, all the pure shooters
use their thumbs.
I felt the difference against Turkey, I was really feeling the ball.
Even on the FT line I'm not worried anymore, I did 11/14 for the last 3 games,
that's really good for me! Of course, I know that there will be games
where I will miss everything, but I had a good feeling vs Turkey . Now my priority is to be more steady and shoot like Steve Nash in 3 years!
I don't have to focus too much on it also, it has to be a + on my game and not the opposite"

Good to see that he's optimist about his shoot and that he's ready to improve. Furthermore, that's funny that he's talking about Nash while I was reffering to him yesterday :spin

[Solid D]

I hope these are lasting improvements. The more TP learns to rely on his shooting hand and use the guide hand only as minimal support, the less of that curve ball he is going to shoot.

[nkdlunch]

Kirilenko! I love that player. I'd love to see him play w/a decent team, he'd kill

[TheTruth]

Good to see that Parker is embracing the extra coaches.

[Dingle Barry]

What happened to the tear drop in the playoffs? Seemed much less reliable and I can't remember TP making one in the Finals or even taking one near the end.

[Phenomanul]

What happened to the tear drop in the playoffs? Seemed much less reliable and I can't remember TP making one in the Finals or even taking one near the end.


The Chauncey and B. Wallace factor....

[Solid D]

Van Exel will remind Tony of the teardrop shot, if TP forgets. Nick has a fairly nice floater too!

[JUUOT]

tony knows it is his bread and butter.
building on what works (the tear drop) to streghten the outside jumpshot without penalizing him too much on actual game. this is a great idea.
he has at least 90 games to get a minimum comfortable with using his thumb.
next summer he will work on another part

[Slo spurs fan]

:pctoss i wish we could see it too...

Use the link in Slovenian national team thread! (page 11 I think)

[JUUOT]

Use the link in Slovenian national team thread! (page 11 I think)

thanks a lot . quality is bad but better than nothing since i am at work.
:elephant

[Slo spurs fan]

No problem.

[JUUOT]

fuck this young gelabale is amazing. i was judging on interview and report but to see him. man he is good. good pick for sonics.

[Slo spurs fan]

What's the score JUUOT?

[JUUOT]

it stopped but it was 42-39 for russia 2 minutes ago after the half

france is really weak inside. kirilenko is good

[1Parker1]

How's Tony doing?

[Admidave50]

This is the stats of TP:

10 pts 7ast

2PT FG: 4/4
FT: 2/2
3PT FG: 0/4
AST: 7
RBD: 2
TO: 1
STL: 0
BLK: 0
F: 1

This is a recap of the game by quarter:

1Q: FRA 22-16 RUS
TP didn't shoot, he gave the ball often to his teamates to invole them.
Boris Diaw did a Jordanesque dunk 2ft after the FT line! :fro
1F, 1TO


2Q: FRA 37 - 34 RUS
TP was on the bench at the beginning of the quarter and France was just horrible. They scored 4 PTS in 5'30 min (each QT is 10 min..) and they were outscored by Russian.
But TP came and had 3 AST - 0/1 3PT

3Q: FRA 48 - 44 RUS
TP was not in the game offensively, still haven't shot a 2PT FG
0/3 3PT, 2FT, 1RBD

4Q: FRA 69-73 RUS
Hopefully, TP started to be on fire in this final quarter, he had like 2 layups and 2 teardrops and gave 4 ast!

France is too weak inside and they had too many turnovers (around 18..) and were horrible at 3PT (3/21). Boris Diaw was awesome (he amazes me each game) and had good offensive moves (some fadeways..) but Pietrus sucked at 3PT, he missed like 4 or 5 open shots!
For TP, his 3PT shot were more like desperate shots at the end of the shotclock 2FT behind the 3PT line.. so we can't really judge his improvement.
Unfortunately for France, TP woke up too late and he needs to be the leader of the team sooner!

They are playing tomorrow against Serbia-Montenegro!

Honestly, if France can't even beat Russia.. they just suck! :lol

[Admidave50]

fuck this young gelabale is amazing. i was judging on interview and report but to see him. man he is good. good pick for sonics.

I agree! I didn't even know this guy and when I first time saw him at the draft with his suit I thought that he was a PF or C! :blah
But he can shoot (3PT as well, he drops 2 or 3 in this game) and has a big jump!

Is he coming this year at Sonics? I initially heard that he prefered to stay 1 more year in Spain but who knows..

[JUUOT]

disclaimer: i watched half the game

i am disappointed with antoine and mike pietrus. Pietrus is not bringing his usual agressivity that could help compensate for the lacking interior game and he should take less 3. Antoine is not bringing the leadership to give tony a break. the team counts too much on tony forcing him to take bad 3pt shoot.

I am amazed with:

Boris diaw. tony always say it but this guy is underrated. he is great defensively with speed and long arms (can defend 1-2-and 3 not as well) but when he is agressive like this last few games his offense is SWEAT.
i think boris and James Jones are going to be the surprise for phoenix next year. coach D will know how to get something out of Boris.

Gelabale played better than pietrus for the second game. he brings it when on the floor. great spirit. good skills. few pounds and he will be a successful 3 in the big league when he joins next year. he had to win his place on the team and he just won it by far.

[JUUOT]

lequipe.fr said tony was convincing at the end of the game and finished with 10points and 9 assists.

[SLOVENIAN 8]

Damn France did not win yet if i am right. They lost twice against Spain and those two losses in Turkey......

[xcoriate]

9 assists for tonty is promising. I think he forgot how to get them during the finals.

[Sense]

9 assists for tonty is promising. I think he forgot how to get them during the finals.


We still won, so who cares...

[Admidave50]

Damn France did not win yet if i am right. They lost twice against Spain and those two losses in Turkey......

Yeah, they lost all their games! I don't expect a win tonight against Serbia Montenegro..!

[xcoriate]

We still won, so who cares...

Anyone that cares for the development of players jackass.

[i have bone spurs]

how did they go against serbia

[Admidave50]

the game is in 3 hours!

[angel_luv]

So France is trying to win and place fifth instead of sixth?

[Admidave50]

yeah.. that's the loser finals! lol

[Admidave50]

Here are the stats of the other french players agains Russia:

Galabale (Sonics): 13 PTS 5/12 FG 2/6 3PT
Rigaudeau (Ex-Mavs): 3 PTS 1/5 FG 1/3 3PT 1 AST
Pietrus (Warrios): 3 PTS 1/6 FG 0/5 3PT 1 AST
Diaw (Hawks): 17 PTS 5/10 FG 0/1 3PT 3 AST

[Slo spurs fan]

S&MN : France 99:72 (80:51, 53:36, 21:23)
Milojevic 21, Gurovic 18, Krstic; M. Pietrus 18, Parker 12

[tp time]

....some problems with french guys.. Diaw is great but tony and rigaudeau..
TP and Longoria are the special guest in a french show tonight, please tony, play basketball!!

http://www.sports.fr/fr/images/200535/rigaudeau_parker_dauphine.jpg

[SLOVENIAN 8]

Tony is becoming "celebrity" and playing more shitty......

[tp time]

ok for other players , its holyday time..but i hope to see tony in euro finals

[Admidave50]

TP and Longoria are the special guest in a french show tonight


On which show?



Tony is becoming "celebrity" and playing more shitty......


Hmm.. I don't think so, he hasn't become more popular this year with his 2nd ring than before.. He did a lot of tv shows last year!

On what facts are you saying that he's "playing more shitty"? I'm not a huge Parker fan, I like what he does on the court but it's obvious for French ppl that he's showing too much during interviews..
I was a Spurs fan long time before TP arrived on the team and my all time favorite is David Robinson, so I don't want people to misunderstand and think I'm on TP's dick because I'm french.

I haven't seen the last game against S&M but he did OK against Turkey, TP tries to pass the ball and involve his teamates but he surely needs to be more agressive and be a leader for French team!

According to me, TP hasn't played more shitty than what he used to do. ;D

[Matrix]

All-tournament First Team:

PG - Leandro Barbosa (Brazil) - 20.3 ppg, 5 rpg, 4.2 apg (before tonight's game)
SG - Marcelo Machado (Brazil) - 23.8 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 5.5 apg (before tonight's game)
SF - Francisco Garcia (Dominican Republic) - 18.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 2 apg
PF - Hector Romero (Venezuela) - 16.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 1.8 apg
C - Esteban Batista (Uruguay) - 18 ppg, 15.6 rpg

I think Barbosa is going to surprise some people this year along with Diaw.

[JMarkJohns]

I am amazed with:

Boris diaw. tony always say it but this guy is underrated. he is great defensively with speed and long arms (can defend 1-2-and 3 not as well) but when he is agressive like this last few games his offense is SWEAT.
i think boris and James Jones are going to be the surprise for phoenix next year. coach D will know how to get something out of Boris.

Any words on the dunk Diaw threw down over Kirilenko?

If you don't remember, then perhaps the following was exaggerated.


Euro 2005 : 4th straight loss for the France
Sep. 1, 2005
by Laurent Sallard

The French National Team recorded on Thursday its fourth straight loss in five game (73-69) against Russia in Istanbul....

In the first quarter, the French NT played very well both offensively and defensively. Boris Diaw (203-F/G-82) was at the same level as he was on Tuesday's game and scored 9 points in the first ten minutes. He also released the most spectacular move of the tournament, finishing a coast-to-coast with a powerfull one-handed dunk on Andrei Kirilenko (205-F-81) after jumping from just beyond the free-throw line.

Would love some details. Maybe even a video. I got nothin' but this article and my imagination.

[Sense]

Anyone that cares for the development of players jackass.


He's not playing in the NBA... I'd like to see it against an NBA team, then I'd be happy.

And I do care about development...but cmon, barbosa averaging 20 ppg over there, tony has to do somewthing.



And we still won, who cares moron.

[GoSpurs21]

I hope France looses all their games that way Tony will not be committed to playing in any future summer Olympic qualifying tourneys

Call me selfish but I dont give a shit about any Olympic team, including team USA
Although last summer I supported Team USA and Arg but only because there was a Spur on those teams.

I am totally against players of the Spurs representing their country in the Olympics but will support the players choice to do so.

[gus]

It is unfair to compare the America with the Euro game. Euro game is more advanced, the nearest to NBA that you will ever find. America is ... OK but not the same. Sorry but, playing Uruguay, Dominican Rep etc. is not the same that playing Serbia, Italy, Spain etc, etc. THose Serbians would wipe the ass of Brazil in a minute ( or not I don't know).


Gus

[Bruno]

Any words on the dunk Diaw threw down over Kirilenko?
Would love some details. Maybe even a video. I got nothin' but this article and my imagination.

This dunk was realyawesome. Diaw is a great dunker and has the level to do the dunk contest. I've watch a dunk contest he made in France and he was very good.
He could be a great fit for Suns but I fear you put him at the PG spot, I think his natural place is SF.

[tp time]

Limoges tournament

France-Ukraine 96-83
19-20, 26-18, 27-20, 24-25

France :
Fauthoux (3), Gelabale (9), Rigaudeau (16), Julian (4), M. Pietrus (2), Parker (22) and 12 assists, F. Pietrus (8), Schmitt (5), Diaw (17), Marquis (3), Giffa (7)

Ukraine :
Lebedev (10), Kobzystyy (3), I. Krivych (8), Rayevskyy (4), R. Krivych (10), Pecherov (19), Gurtovoï (4), Medvedenko (25)

[Admidave50]

France won yesterday against Ukraine (96-83)

TP has good stats: 22 PTS 9/17 FG 1/4 3PT 3/3 FT 12 AST

For Ukraine, you have Medvedenko (still @ Lakers?) 25 pts 9/17 FG 6 RBD

Mike Pietrus hasn't done anything, 2 PTS 0/4 3PT in 17 min while Diaw is still shining 17 PTS 7/11 FG 2/3 3PT

France will play against Bulgaria tonight.

[picnroll]

Parkers been putting up good assist numbers. I thought in Europe they were a lot stricter on what they called an assist. How is he getting his assits? Drive and kick like usual or some other way?

[Bruno]

France won today against Bulgaria (98-59)

TP has good stats: 20 PTS 7/11 FG 4/6 3PT 3/4 FT 7 AST 4 RB 2 TO in 32 min

Mickael Pietrus 23
Gelabale 11
Boris Diaw 14

Good news for french team : Frédéric Weis will play the euro. He is a 7-2 center and was a lotery pick drafted by the knicks. Remember, Vince Pussy Carter dunked over him in Sidney.

[JsnSA]

Off topic, This is the first time I saw this:

http://x4.putfile.com/6/16010433521.jpg

That picture had me laughing my ass off. :lol :lol

[boutons]

Is that Beno's swollen knee or something else?

[tp time]

its really better!

France - Turquie : 75-56

France:
Gelabale (9), Rigaudeau (8), M. Pietrus (7), Parker (20) and 7 assists, F. Pietrus (4), Diarra (2), Schmitt (2), Diaw (16), Marquis (4), Giffa (3)

Turquie:
Akyol (8), Tunceri (8), Kurtoglu (6), Turkcan (5), Arslan (7), Gonlum (4), Okur (7), Peker (7), Turkoglu (4)

http://www.sports.fr/fr/images/200536/44685parker.jpg

[boutons]

wow, Tony looks more muscular and cut-up than he was in June. Maybe doing all those pushups with Eva has thinned him out and pumped up his shoulders?

Tony "Chauncey" Parker?

:)

[JUUOT]

it is more likely coming from the thousand of shots he has to do for homeworks every day. the only way pop let him go to euro was for him to do chip homeworks...

[Bruno]

it is more likely coming from the thousand of shots he has to do for homeworks every day. the only way pop let him go to euro was for him to do chip homeworks...

Salut JUUOT.

It's maybe too soon to tell but I find Tony's jumpshot quite good. I watch some the 3's he does on TV and even if I'm not an expert, his jumpshot looks better than before.

He has changed his thumb position and the way he puts up the ball (he said that on TV).

With French team (if you remove the first two games where Tony was in really bad shape), Tony was 14/31 (0.452) from 21 feet jumpshots (euro 3's).

[JUUOT]

merci bruno. les resumes a la radio ne sont pas suffisant. et puis c est sympa d avoir un contributeur de qualite et regulier francais.

21 feet distance is perfect because it is quite enough to space defense.

If tony can consistently hit between 40 and 45% midrange jumper he is uncontestly in the top5PG.

i think the fact he can rely on beno and mostly NVE from the bench will also push him. he will progress again like every year.

sounds good.

[drivanroca]

See this:


http://www.fiba.com/pages/en/game/welcome/shooting.asp? :spin :spin :spin :lol

[xcoriate]

^ thats the funniest link I've seen in a while :lol

[Bruno]

France wins again italia tonight (83-75).
Tony didn't play because he has a little injury at the right calf.
He will be back thursday for the begining of the euro.