Ray Lewis declaring nuclear warfare of truth on Tom Brady

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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Ray Lewis: Tuck rule 'only reason we know who Tom Brady is'



Lewis says tuck rule 'only reason we know' Tom Brady
Former Ravens (http://www.si.com/nfl/team/baltimore-ravens) linebacker and current ESPN analyst (http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/01/14/ray-lewis-patriots-tom-brady-tuck-rule#) said on Stephen A. Smith's radio show Tuesday that Patriots (http://www.si.com/nfl/team/new-england-patriots) QB Tom Brady is only known because of the infamous tuck rule.




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Posted: Wed Jan. 14, 2015





ESPN NFL analyst Ray Lewis appeared on Stephen A. Smith's radio show on Wednesday to talk about the upcoming conference championship games, and when talk turned to the New England Patriots, Lewis made an outlandish claim.

"The only reason we know who Tom Brady is, because of a tuck rule! There’s no such thing as a tuck rule! If the ball is in your hand, and I knock it out your hand, whether it’s going backwards, forwards, lateral, sideways, however it’s coming out, that’s a freaking fumble! But guess what we created? We created a freaking tuck rule!"


http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/01/14/ray-lewis-patriots-tom-brady-tuck-rule

[HI-FI]

Patriots were lucky the MIC was gearing everyone for a protracted war, so the pats were the feel good hit of the year.

thats the other problem with the phony Montana/Brady comparisons. Joe arrived with The Catch, a top 3 moment in Nfl history, Brady was catapulted by a call that will live in infamy.

[lefty]

Butthurt :lol

[Infinite_limit]

What else did OJ i meant Lewis say

[Malik Hairston]

And the only reason Ray Lewis isn't doing a life bid is because of Steve Bisciotti, tbh:lol..

[MultiTroll]

Its like the Lakers 2002 playoff riggin. No intelligent basketball people recognize their 2002 title.
Likewise with the Tucks Medicated Pats that year.
Throw in the cheatin cameras.....

Can't believe that retarded final call by Ravens and pussy attempt to break up the INT by Torrey Smith.
Indy needs to ream these fakes out of the playoffs.

[spurraider21]

why is Ray Lewis getting so emotional about the tuck rule?

[Silver&Black]

^

That's your job tbh

[spurraider21]

^

That's your job tbh
i know. why does a baltimore raven give a shit at all... thats our tragedy :cry

[Silver&Black]

i know. why does a baltimore raven give a shit at all... thats our tragedy :cry

In a weird way...it got TB a Super Bowl.

:cheer

[Chinook]

That rule was horrible. But what an odd slip up by Ray. I bet even Suggs think Lewis overreacted.

[Pelicans78]

Was it even a rule back then? I never heard of it before that game. It seems like the refs/NFL just made it up during that game to screw the Raiders. I've been watching the NFL since 1984 and never saw a tuck rule call until that game.

[Kawhi]

Spygate too

[lefty]

:lol phaggot

555779899118845952

[Pelicans78]

Frustration about a rule that doesn't even exist anymore.

[monosylab1k]

Was it even a rule back then? I never heard of it before that game. It seems like the refs/NFL just made it up during that game to screw the Raiders. I've been watching the NFL since 1984 and never saw a tuck rule call until that game.

Don't be purposely obtuse.

[Raven]

So the qb with the most playoff wins is known just for that.. :lol glad he's not known for getting away with literal murder :lol

[spurraider21]

the tuck rule was always in the rule book. it shouldn't have applied to the play imo. Brady did bring his arm forward and then tuck the ball back to his body. it is my contention that he had completed this act of the tuck before the ball came free.

2 hands on the ball, the tuck was already done. unless its like a video game where you have a few seconds of invincibility after spawning in... and QB's have a few moments where fumbling is impossible after a pump fake

http://welcometothe716.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/the-tuck-rule1.jpg

[JoeTait75]

This was, what, 13 years ago? I get why Raiders fans would still be salty but I don't see why anyone else still harps on that play, least of all Ray Lewis. Why did he even bring it up?

[Raven]

the tuck rule was always in the rule book. it shouldn't have applied to the play imo. Brady did bring his arm forward and then tuck the ball back to his body. it is my contention that he had completed this act of the tuck before the ball came free.

2 hands on the ball, the tuck was already done. unless its like a video game where you have a few seconds of invincibility after spawning in... and QB's have a few moments where fumbling is impossible after a pump fake

http://welcometothe716.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/the-tuck-rule1.jpg

except it wasn't and you guys lost.

[Clipper Nation]

So the qb with the most playoff wins is known just for that.. :lol glad he's not known for getting away with literal murder :lol
Isn't the Aaron Hernandez trial underway? Pats fans should be the last to talk about murder, tbh.

[Raven]

Isn't the Aaron Hernandez trial underway? Pats fans should be the last to talk about murder, tbh.

:cry

honestly, i don't give a damn, it's just funny to hear ray lewis bitching about something

[lefty]

So the qb with the most playoff wins is known just for that.. :lol glad he's not known for getting away with literal murder :lol

[lefty]

Isn't the Aaron Hernandez trial underway? Pats fans should be the last to talk about murder, tbh.
yeah but Lewis killed first

and got away with it:lol

[lefty]

except it wasn't and you guys lost.
:lmao

[leemajors]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--TiZALZos--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/z3pd25tcfpcnfsvinadm.jpg

[lefty]

:lol Lower Lip Tat

[Clipper Nation]

yeah but Lewis killed first

and got away with it:lol
Ray Ray obstructed justicePERIOD

[lefty]

Still better than:

https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/cowboys-fan.jpg

[spurraider21]

except it wasn't and you guys lost.
do you not see the image :lol

[scanry]

When did the Algerian Terrorist become a Patriots fan?

[Raven]

do you not see the image :lol

did you not hear the ref :lol? incomplete pass! :lol

[spurraider21]

did you not hear the ref :lol? incomplete pass! :lol
It is my contention that the ref made an incorrect call. Saying "the refs are right because the ref said it" is textbook circular :lol

[Clipper Nation]

It is my contention that the ref made an incorrect call. Saying "the refs are right because the ref said it" is textbook circular :lol
You probably think the Holy Roller was a fairly officiated game, though :lol

[spurraider21]

You probably think the Holy Roller was a fairly officiated game, though :lol
:lol nah that was complete bullshit. even stabler admitted it years later

but that was a meaningless september game in a season where neither team made the playoffs, not a divisional playoff game, the winner of whom got to play K:lolrdell Stew:lolrt in the AFC title game

not to mention there was no instant replay and they didn't overturn a call

[lefty]

When did the Algerian Terrorist become a Patriots fan?
Ask the old timers (Mono, Sook) they can confirm I'm a Cheatriots fan, you fat murican serial killer

[Avante]

Had never heard of the tuck rule before that game, never knew there was a such a thing.

But...

Tom Brady's fame has nothing at all to do with that game, yep, Ray Lewis is full of shit.

[dirk4mvp]

When did the Algerian Terrorist become a Patriots fan?

:lol a lot of faggot foreigners are Patriot fans. Weird imo

[spurraider21]

Had never heard of the tuck rule before that game, never knew there was a such a thing.

But...

Tom Brady's fame has nothing at all to do with that game, yep, Ray Lewis is full of shit.
you never know, they might have gone back to Bledsoe if they didn't win. also, they didn't even make the playoffs the following year, so things could have changed.

i think brady's greatness would have come out at some point anyway, but things could have been very different

[Avante]

you never know, they might have gone back to Bledsoe if they didn't win. also, they didn't even make the playoffs the following year, so things could have changed.

i think brady's greatness would have come out at some point anyway, but things could have been very different

Bledsoe had a very subpar season the year before that, he had a lowly 77.3 passer rating. Brady had a far better season the following year with a nice 86.6 and a far better completion %. They weren't going back to Bledsoe.

[spurraider21]

Bledsoe had a very subpar season the year before that, he had a lowly 77.3 passer rating. Brady had a far better season the following year with a nice 86.6 and a far better completion %. They weren't going back to Bledsoe.
True. it's where everything started though. you never know how things could have changed if they didn't get that first trophy

[Clipper Nation]

:lol nah that was complete bullshit. even stabler admitted it years later

but that was a meaningless september game in a season where neither team made the playoffs, not a divisional playoff game, the winner of whom got to play K:lolrdell Stew:lolrt in the AFC title game

not to mention there was no instant replay and they didn't overturn a call

Speaking of playoff games (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/0ap2000000113870/Top-Ten-Controversial-Calls-Suger-Bear-penalty)... :downspin:

[monosylab1k]

Isn't the Aaron Hernandez trial underway? Pats fans should be the last to talk about murder, tbh.

The Patriots organization washed their hands of Hernandez, they certainly didn't embrace him and keep him around for years afterwards like Baltimore did with Ray.

[spurraider21]

Speaking of playoff games (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/0ap2000000113870/Top-Ten-Controversial-Calls-Suger-Bear-penalty)... :downspin:
:lol #1 and #2 went against the raiders

in my lifetime, the Tuck rule is the worst call the NFL has seen

[monosylab1k]

you never know, they might have gone back to Bledsoe if they didn't win. also, they didn't even make the playoffs the following year, so things could have changed.

i think brady's greatness would have come out at some point anyway, but things could have been very different

Belichick was looking for a reason to bench Bledsoe before the season started, he even said he wanted to make Brady the starter out of training camp but decided to stick with the veteran for a few more weeks.

[Silver&Black]

The Pats vs. Raiders game was the 1st time I've ever seen "The Tuck Rule" called.

Since then....I've seen it called twice (It may be more...I just didn't see that game). And BOTH times it was with Tony Romo....:lol

[spurraider21]

Belichick was looking for a reason to bench Bledsoe before the season started, he even said he wanted to make Brady the starter out of training camp but decided to stick with the veteran for a few more weeks.
good point if true. not gna lie and say i was following the inner workings of the pats when i was 10 :lol

that playoff game was sorta the origins of the dynasty though. where the legend was born

[monosylab1k]

The Pats vs. Raiders game was the 1st time I've ever seen "The Tuck Rule" called.

Since then....I've seen it called twice (It may be more...I just didn't see that game). And BOTH times it was with Tony Romo....:lol

Actually the year after the Tuck Rule game, the tuck rule got called in another Raiders-Pats game, that time in favor of the Raiders. Also that season or the year after, there was a game where Jeff Fisher argued that the Titans should have gotten a fumble reversed, because "it was a tuck, exactly like Brady's tuck".

[spurraider21]

Actually the year after the Tuck Rule game, the tuck rule got called in another Raiders-Pats game, that time in favor of the Raiders. Also that season or the year after, there was a game where Jeff Fisher argued that the Titans should have gotten a fumble reversed, because "it was a tuck, exactly like Brady's tuck".
remember that game. a lot of people mistakenly say the tuck rule was never used after that play... that's never been my issue.

[Silver&Black]

Actually the year after the Tuck Rule game, the tuck rule got called in another Raiders-Pats game, that time in favor of the Raiders. Also that season or the year after, there was a game where Jeff Fisher argued that the Titans should have gotten a fumble reversed, because "it was a tuck, exactly like Brady's tuck".

I'm also wanting to say that the year BEFORE the Pats vs. Raiders "tuck rule game"....it was called against the Pats. That's why Bill said he was aware of the rule during his post game press conference....

[lefty]

:lol a lot of faggot foreigners are Patriot fans. Weird imo

:lol why because of the name "patriots"?

They have a huge fan base in ...England :lol

[spurraider21]

I'm also wanting to say that the year BEFORE the Pats vs. Raiders "tuck rule game"....it was called against the Pats. That's why Bill said he was aware of the rule during his post game press conference....
Bill referred to some play with Testaverde imo, but that was nothing like the Tuck play in the Raiders game

[Silver&Black]

Bill referred to some play with Testaverde imo, but that was nothing like the Tuck play in the Raiders game

From Wikipedia (take it with a grain of salt....but I believe it to be legit)

Jets vs. Patriots (2001)[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tuck_rule&action=edit&section=2)]The tuck rule was called in Week 2 of an NFL regular season match-up on September 23, 2001, between the New England Patriots and the New York Jets.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_rule#cite_note-3) In the waning minutes of the second quarter, Patriots' defensive end Anthony Pleasant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Pleasant) apparently forced Jets quarterback Vinny Testaverde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde) to fumble the ball. Patriots' defensive end Richard Seymour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Seymour) made a recovery.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_rule#cite_note-4) The call was overturned upon review and ruled an incomplete with the tuck rule cited. The Jets would go on to tie the game with a field goal on that drive and then eventually win in overtime.
In the aftermath of the Tuck Rule Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_Rule_Game), Patriots head coach Bill Belichick referred to this game, telling ESPN, "I knew what the ruling should have been because we had dealt with that play a little bit earlier in the year on the other side of it."[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_rule#cite_note-5)

[Silver&Black]

Still doesn't change the fact....what the fuck is Ray Lewis running his mouth for? He has no dog in this fight....

[HI-FI]

Bill referred to some play with Testaverde imo, but that was nothing like the Tuck play in the Raiders game
Yeah that play looked much more like an incompletion, not like with Brady walking off dejected after coughing up the ball.

Lewis could be bringing this up because he's pissed about the recent Ravens loss.

but his main point is spot on, the rules are written by lawyers with too much room for interpretation or manipulation. It's not just the tuck rule, it goes on too much. "Element of time", "football move". Worst is when that fuck Hochuli puts his own lawyer spin on bs calls.

[spurraider21]

Yeah that play looked much more like an incompletion, not like with Brady walking off dejected after coughing up the ball.

Lewis could be bringing this up because he's pissed about the recent Ravens loss.

but his main point is spot on, the rules are written by lawyers with too much room for interpretation or manipulation. It's not just the tuck rule, it goes on too much. "Element of time", "football move". Worst is when that fuck Hochuli puts his own lawyer spin on bs calls.
i never had an issue with the tuck rule. i have an issue with the call they made in that game. it's referred to as "the tuck rule game" but i contend that the tuck rule shouldn't have applied to the fumble.

i'm fine with the ruling on Dez's catch because i've seen them make that same ruling over and over again, just not on that big of stage. they're really consistent with the "going to the ground" calls. i remember when it happened to the raiders against SD like 5 years ago and i was pissed as hell, making all the same arguments cowboys fans have made for the past week. but i was wrong, and i saw the same application to calvin most notably. they're consistent with it, which is why i'm good with that rule/call.

for the tuck though, i feel brady did tuck the ball, but the fumble came after the entire tuck process was complete. i'm mostly annoyed when people say "it was a dumb rule, but it was the right call" instead of just saying "yeah the pats got away with one. it happens"

[dirk4mvp]

:lol why because of the name "patriots"?

They have a huge fan base in ...England :lol

geographical cuckoldry tbh

[lefty]

geographical cuckoldry tbh
:lol