Russell Wilson..

[Malik Hairston]

I was beginning to buy into his elite game managing, but he just isn't anything special without Seattle's defense playing at a historic level and Lynch carrying the team, tbh..

He has only had about 2 good playoff games in his career, and today he's having arguably the worst QB playoff performance in NFL history..

Against a really average Packers' defense, too, tbh, he should be dominating..

[Malik Hairston]

His great performance last week was against a 7-8-1 Carolina team, arguably the worst team to make it in the playoffs in the history of the NFL, statistically..

[jeebus]

http://i.imgur.com/9PCF2LD.png

[Malik Hairston]

http://i.imgur.com/9PCF2LD.png

:lol damn..

[SupremeGuy]

Best running back left in the playoffs, tbh.

[crc21209]

You've gotta be fucking kidding me..

[Thebesteva]

Jinx thread tbh, still true what OP is saying but jinx thread :cry

[Malik Hairston]

Jinx thread tbh, still true what OP is saying but jinx thread :cry

Nope, it's exactly what I said in the OP:

- Seahawks struggling and Wilson looking atrocious, until Marshawn Lynch makes 2 huge plays and the ST recovers an onside kick:lol

Wilson is going to receive all the credit, as usual, unfortunately, despite playing terribly against a bad Packers' D..

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

lmao this thread

[Thebesteva]

Nope, it's exactly what I said in the OP:

- Seahawks struggling and Wilson looking atrocious, until Marshawn Lynch makes 2 huge plays and the ST recovers an onside kick:lol

Wilson is going to receive all the credit, as usual, unfortunately, despite playing terribly against a bad Packers' D..

Wilson is shit, but he doesnt choke like Manning does

[Malik Hairston]

Wilson is shit, but he doesnt choke like Manning does

Most QBs in the NFL would win with the way Seattle is set up, tbh..

Cam Newton would have a ring, too..

[Thebesteva]

Most QBs in the NFL would win with the way Seattle is set up, tbh..

Cam Newton would have a ring, too..

Agree with that

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Every thing said still stands

[Malik Hairston]

Ugh, he made 2 nice plays in OT, now he's going to receive all the credit, despite single-handily putting his team in a huge hole..that's the way marketing works, I suppose..

[Clipper Nation]

8-22, 4 picks, bailed out by Dom Capers' idiocy and Marshawn Lynch, but getting all the credit per par. Damn, Struggle really is the NFL's version of Enrique :lol

[Killakobe81]

Shhh ...
Russ mother fucking Wilson

[jeebus]

:lmao he gets the interview after the game too

[Thebesteva]

Damn dude if I was Lynch id be fucking fuming that Wilson gets all the credit here tbh

[Malik Hairston]

God, 8-22 and 4 INTs, and he's receiving credit for this..smh..

[jag]

Someone call the wambulance

[Malik Hairston]

Could you imagine if Cam Newton went 8-22 and threw 4 INTs? :lol..

[jag]

...and then cried after the game

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

LOL

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Someone call the wambulance

:lmao

[Robz4000]

Luckiest chimp on the planet imo

[benefactor]

Dammit Harlem

[DarrinS]

:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I get crying if you're a college athlete who just won a national championship, but seriously, a pro athlete crying his eyes out over a conference championship :lol

Why do black men always have this, ":cryI overcame so much diversity to get here:cry" look on their face whenever they cry, tbh?

[jeebus]

I get crying if you're a college athlete who just won a national championship, but seriously, a pro athlete crying his eyes out over a conference championship :lol

Why do black men always have this, ":cry God helped me overcome so much diversity to get here:cry" look on their face whenever they cry, tbh?

fify

[Mal]

Just overpay him now, and let this defense to walk away for bigger paychecks. I hate this team.

[rogues]

God, 8-22 and 4 INTs, and he's receiving credit for this..smh..
I am rooting for whoever plays Seattle in the Superbowl..this type of praise is Kobe-levels, tbh..

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I am rooting for whoever plays Seattle in the Superbowl..this type of praise is Kobe-levels, tbh..

It'd be more like giving Derek Fisher Kobe-level praise for those 5 championships :lol

[DarrinS]

Pretty great throws in OT, tbh.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

His great performance last week was against a 7-8-1 Carolina team, arguably the worst team to make it in the playoffs in the history of the NFL, statistically..


Best running back left in the playoffs, tbh.


God, 8-22 and 4 INTs, and he's receiving credit for this..smh..


Could you imagine if Cam Newton went 8-22 and threw 4 INTs? :lol..


Luckiest chimp on the planet imo


Just overpay him now, and let this defense to walk away for bigger paychecks. I hate this team.

http://theclinkr.com/sites/default/files/gifs/wilson_jazzhands.gif

[chunticakes]

If anything this Seattle victory reiterates what has been constantly brought up here. Wilson is a game manager, and not even as good a game manager as we thought...

[jag]

:cry I singlehandedly almost prevented my team from winning but they overcame my shittyness :cry

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:cry I singlehandedly almost prevented my team from winning but they overcame my shittyness :cry
Precisely..

[jag]

:cry I'm like a lead weight my teammates have to drag around:cry

[Malik Hairston]

:lol imagine Cam Newton or Romo or Jay Cutler going 8-22 with 4 INTs in a playoff game..they would be massacred..

[rogues]

It'd be more like giving Derek Fisher Kobe-level praise for those 5 championships :lol
:lol I love how the media will just barely mention that he had one of the worst games a QB can have in a conference championship game..like I said, idgaf if it's my team or those lobster loving geeks from New England..whoever comes out of tonight's game, they have my fandom..obviously, I'd like Luck to stick his dick into Seattle..it would be something to mark off my personal bucket list..

[tlongII]

All Russell does is win.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol I love how the media will just barely mention that he had one of the worst games a QB can have in a conference championship game..like I said, idgaf if it's my team or those lobster loving geeks from New England..whoever comes out of tonight's game, they have my fandom..obviously, I'd like Luck to stick his dick into Seattle..it would be something to mark off my personal bucket list..

Same. As long as Seattle loses, I'll be happy.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

His great performance last week was against a 7-8-1 Carolina team, arguably the worst team to make it in the playoffs in the history of the NFL, statistically..


Best running back left in the playoffs, tbh.


God, 8-22 and 4 INTs, and he's receiving credit for this..smh..


Could you imagine if Cam Newton went 8-22 and threw 4 INTs? :lol..


Luckiest chimp on the planet imo


:lol imagine Cam Newton or Romo or Jay Cutler going 8-22 with 4 INTs in a playoff game..they would be massacred..

Shut yo dick in the booty ass up fegget. :rollin

[SupremeGuy]

:cry I singlehandedly almost prevented my team from winning but they overcame my shittyness :cryThat heart :cry

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol imagine Cam Newton or Romo or Jay Cutler going 8-22 with 4 INTs in a playoff game..they would be massacred..

If Luck or Brady have a game like that today, they wouldn't hear the end of it either :lol

[Robz4000]

Same. As long as Seattle loses, I'll be happy.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Newton > Wilson and it's not really debatable anymore.

[jag]

Newton > Wilson and it's not really debatable anymore.

Nobody cares

[chunticakes]

Newton > Wilson and it's not really debatable anymore.

Cum would have a ring if he was in Seattle.

[DarrinS]

Avalanche of butthurt in here

[AlexJones]

Newton > Wilson and it's not really debatable anymore.

Agreed tbh

[Raven]

I get crying if you're a college athlete who just won a national championship, but seriously, a pro athlete crying his eyes out over a conference championship :lol

Why do black men always have this, ":cryI overcame so much diversity to get here:cry" look on their face whenever they cry, tbh?

i would to if my team just avoided me losing a 25M/year milion contract tbh

[Raven]

Newton > Wilson and it's not really debatable anymore.

you may have a point..

[Raven]

If Luck or Brady have a game like that today, they wouldn't hear the end of it either :lol

considering that tb can't hear the end of a questionable fumble that was called an incomplete pass despite him making big play after big play in that game, i think it's quite a fair assessment :lol

[spurtech09]

not a fan of the sea hawks.....but how bout dem hawks lol

[spurraider21]

Game winning touchdown throw in the nfc title game for back to back years :cry

[Killakobe81]

:lol imagine Cam Newton or Romo or Jay Cutler going 8-22 with 4 INTs in a playoff game..they would be massacred..

Truth. But if that was Peyton, Brady or Rogers we would hear about how clutch they were too so it goes both ways, Harlem.

[unleashbaynes]

i just really dislike Seattle. they're a phenomenal team but i constantly find myself rooting against them. wilson really is lucky his team bailed him out today.

[DarrinS]

i just really dislike Seattle. they're a phenomenal team but i constantly find myself rooting against them. wilson really is lucky his team bailed him out today.

Meh, GB helped too.

[sook]

:cry I singlehandedly almost prevented my team from winning but they overcame my shittyness :cry

:lol

[Kool Bob Love]

As long as wilson rings.

[poeticism707]

Truth. But if that was Peyton, Brady or Rogers we would hear about how clutch they were too so it goes both ways, Harlem.

Agree.

And two of Wilson's picks were his receiver's fault, went right through the hands.

And anyone who thinks Cam is better than Wilson should watch a little football sometime.

Green Bay D played WAY OVER THEIR HEADS ALL DAY, and Wilson still came through in the clutch,

beating in arguably one of the best 2 QBS in the game...ON WILSON'S WORST DAY IN HIS CAREER.

IN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME NO LESS.

No excuses.

[Sean Cagney]

Newton > Wilson and it's not really debatable anymore.
Talent wise yes, his team is worse though unfortunately and he has not win shit.

[313]

Avalanche of butthurt in here

[Raven]

Agree.

And two of Wilson's picks were his receiver's fault, went right through the hands.

And anyone who thinks Cam is better than Wilson should watch a little football sometime.

Green Bay D played WAY OVER THEIR HEADS ALL DAY, and Wilson still came through in the clutch,

beating in arguably one of the best 2 QBS in the game...ON WILSON'S WORST DAY IN HIS CAREER.

IN THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME NO LESS.

No excuses.

i bet the ball that hit gbs guy in the helmet on the onside kick was also wilson's plan and part of his greatness.

[spurraider21]

i bet the ball that hit gbs guy in the helmet on the onside kick was also wilson's plan and part of his greatness.
there are always things that are out of your QB's control... like defense and special teams.

he was extremely fortunate to be given the opportunity, but he did capitalize. for that some credit is deserved.... Ray Allen's 3 pointer in game 6 was clutch, but its not like anybody slights his shot and says "i bet the rebound that Bosh got was also Allen's plan and part of his greatness"

[Raven]

there are always things that are out of your QB's control... like defense and special teams.

he was extremely fortunate to be given the opportunity, but he did capitalize. for that some credit is deserved.... Ray Allen's 3 pointer in game 6 was clutch, but its not like anybody slights his shot and says "i bet the rebound that Bosh got was also Allen's plan and part of his greatness"
nah, no credit should be given to him. The game was lost and he put up one of the worst performances in playoff history, that is a fact. It's also another fact that he has been terrible in every single playoff game in his career sans the peytons ultimate shame game.. He won, perfect, but giving credit to him after things like "player slides after interception when he has a clear path to a pick six", "lynch carries 6 tacklers for a first down, makes long catches and has big td run", "kicker throws a td" and "ball hits helmet of gb tackler on an onside kick" is just dumb.

[spurraider21]

nah, no credit should be given to him. The game was lost and he put up one of the worst performances in playoff history, that is a fact. It's also another fact that he has been terrible in every single playoff game in his career sans the peytons ultimate shame game.. He won, perfect, but giving credit to him after things like "player slides after interception when he has a clear path to a pick six", "lynch carries 6 tacklers for a first down, makes long catches and has big td run", "kicker throws a td" and "ball hits helmet of gb tackler on an onside kick" is just dumb.
he's played 2 playoff games since then and was great in one of them :lol

the rest of your post ignores everything i just said

[Raven]

he's played 2 playoff games since then and was great in one of them :lol

the rest of your post ignores everything i just said

which one tbh? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

"player slides after interception when he has a clear path to a pick six"

After the Marlon McCree game, I'll never blame any player for getting down on the ground ASAP after making a clutch interception in a playoff game.

[spurraider21]

which one tbh? :lol
i was thinking of the one last week where he posted a 149 QBR :lol

[Raven]

i was thinking of the one last week where he posted a 149 QBR :lol

you mean to count a game against cum newton as a playoff game? he was pretty bad in that game too btw, but that's not really a fact, more an eye test.. i mean it was 14-10 until the 4th and wilson was fucking terrible sans a bs 63 yd td to kearse that was quite the lol moment..

[spurraider21]

you mean to count a game against cum newton as a playoff game?
newton was the opposing quarterback. Wilson faced the Panthers defense which had been rolling. he shredded them


he was pretty bad in that game too btw
:lmao


but that's not really a fact, more an eye test..
no shit, sherlock. just like your Giacomini assessments :lol


i mean it was 14-10 until the 4th and wilson was fucking terrible sans a bs 63 yd td to kearse that was quite the lol moment..
why was it BS? and how exactly was he terrible before that? oh yeah, "the eye test" :lol

in the game thread i routinely criticized Seattle for trying to force the run (Lynch/Turbin ended up with 78 yards on 21) instead of going through the air where they had repeated success.

[Raven]

newton was the opposing quarterback. Wilson faced the Panthers defense which had been rolling. he shredded them


:lmao


no shit, sherlock. just like your Giacomini assessments :lol


why was it BS? and how exactly was he terrible before that? oh yeah, "the eye test" :lol

in the game thread i routinely criticized Seattle for trying to force the run (Lynch/Turbin ended up with 78 yards on 21) instead of going through the air where they had repeated success.

ok :lol

[spurraider21]

ok :lol

no, really.


LOL going away from Wilson.


i get that they want to stay balanced, but they're force feeding the backs when Carolina is more suspect in the back end

literally just ran the same play twice in a row :lol


...and as i say it they beat them down the field


:rolleyes still trying to pound the run at this point

followed by a drop


Seattle is going to need to stay in the air until they estbalish a 2 possession lead, then wear them out on the ground


despite the fumble, panthers only shot in this game is to stay very run heavy. seattle's front 7 is quick but they can be had right up the gut with a power run game (after losing red bryant in the offseason, mebane to IR). they need to protect cam the way they did the last drive.

seattle needs to stretch the panthers D so they can run later in the game and put it away

[Raven]

no, really.

let me break it down to you:
seattle never wins games by throwing the ball, never. Whenever they try, they miserably fail. They always, ALWAYS win by running lynch to the ground and creating tournovers, the passing only comes into play when teams commit to stop lynch therefore leaving receivers wide open, only then he throws. There has never been a game where the team came out firing while the defense was mediocre, it is always the defence making things easy and when they are hard, it's always lynch that makes the difference.

[spurraider21]

deflected all the way to this point, eh? all that just because you cant say Wilson played a hell of a game against Carolina :lol

and even that was a deflection from my original point, that you have to give credit to somebody for taking advantage of circumstances given to them.

[spurraider21]

this was where our conversation started, and look where you've dragged it to :rollin


i bet the ball that hit gbs guy in the helmet on the onside kick was also wilson's plan and part of his greatness.


there are always things that are out of your QB's control... like defense and special teams.

he was extremely fortunate to be given the opportunity, but he did capitalize. for that some credit is deserved.... Ray Allen's 3 pointer in game 6 was clutch, but its not like anybody slights his shot and says "i bet the rebound that Bosh got was also Allen's plan and part of his greatness"

[Raven]

deflected all the way to this point, eh? all that just because you cant say Wilson played a hell of a game against Carolina :lol

and even that was a deflection from my original point, that you have to give credit to somebody for taking advantage of circumstances given to them.

it was a shitfest tbh :lol well you can give him credit, just define what kind of credit is that.. Willing his team to victory surely isn't a fitting one.

[spurraider21]

it was a shitfest tbh :lol well you can give him credit, just define what kind of credit is that.. Willing his team to victory surely isn't a fitting one.
i never said he willed them to victory. if you read what i posted instead of commencing with your usual verbal diarrhea you would have known that.

to quote myself "he was extremely fortunate to be give the opportunity, but he did capitalize... for that some credit is deserved"

[Raven]

i never said he willed them to victory. if you read what i posted instead of commencing with your usual verbal diarrhea you would have known that.

to quote myself "he was extremely fortunate to be give the opportunity, but he did capitalize... for that some credit is deserved"

sure, but what kind of credit? The credit of "game manager that gets carried by the history's best defence and the decade's best rb"? That's fine, he deserves that credit, i agree with you on that.

[spurraider21]

sure, but what kind of credit? The credit of "game manager that gets carried by the history's best defence and the decade's best rb"? That's fine, he deserves that credit, i agree with you on that.
i dont care for the labeling.

he should get credit for the plays that he made. he played like complete dogshit for 55 minutes of the game. but after all that, he had opportunities and he took advantage of them. completed 6 of his last 7 passes for 130+ and the game winner

last year against the Chiefs, Luck played like dogshit, but got credit for what he did in the last 25 minutes of the game. in this game, wilson played like dogshit but should still get credit for the end of regulation + the OT

[Raven]

i dont care for the labeling.

he should get credit for the plays that he made. he played like complete dogshit for 55 minutes of the game. but after all that, he had opportunities and he took advantage of them. completed 6 of his last 7 passes for 130+ and the game winner

last year against the Chiefs, Luck played like dogshit, but got credit for what he did in the last 25 minutes of the game. in this game, wilson played like dogshit but should still get credit for the end of regulation + the OT

kind of apples and oranges when you have trent richardson as the rb imo but i see what you mean. Also 25 minutes and barely 5 aren't really the same..

[Brazil]

On his 4 INT there are two on dumb mistakes of the receivers to be fair

He did have a bad game but these two throws for TDs in regulation were great especially for a game manager who usually makes 5 yards passes

[Raven]

On his 4 INT there are two on dumb mistakes of the receivers to be fair

He did have a bad game but these two throws for TDs in regulation were great especially for a game manager who usually makes 5 yards passes
He should have had two more tbh, another to clinton dix and the two point conversion was just weird

[AchillesHeel]

Yeah he was bad for most of the game that put them in a big hole, but he made up for it and all that matters to his team is that they made it to the SB. He was clutch as fuck when they needed him to be. No lie he was carried by Beastmode and the defense, but he's still in the SB.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Agree.

And two of Wilson's picks were his receiver's fault, went right through the hands.

And anyone who thinks Cam is better than Wilson should watch a little football sometime.

Green Bay D played WAY OVER THEIR HEADS ALL DAY, and Wilson still came through in the clutch,

beating in arguably one of the best 2 QBS in the game...ON WILSON'S WORST DAY IN HIS CAREER.

IN THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME NO LESS.

No excuses.

Cam went into the Clink, against a top defense, and top DB's, and had a pretty solid game. Drove them down field multiple times, and made it a game. He has never thrown four picks.

Russell has a stacked team, stacked running game, yet throws 4 picks in his first 9 throws. He was playing against a shitty defense called GB. He's not needed for that team to win. They could have had Rex Grossman out there last night, and they still would have won. They could have had Kaepernick. Hell, they could have even had Geno Smith.

If Russell was on Carolina, he would have never made it.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

and where is Avante after all this?

[AaronY]

Two of the interveptions were his receivers fault but he was really awful. If his team had even an average defense they would have lost by 25+ points

I mean he literally didn't even complete a pass till there was like three minutes left in the first half.

[spurraider21]

kind of apples and oranges when you have trent richardson as the rb imo but i see what you mean. Also 25 minutes and barely 5 aren't really the same..
i never said they are the same, and i never said wilson's game was as good as Luck vs chiefs. my god you're dense.

[Avante]

What if this guy had a Gronk/Dez/Megatron, a Jerry Rice? RW is the most successful QB in pro football history. Nobody has won more games and been to two SB's in their first three seasons.

Yesterday he was sucking long and hard then when it matters the most........BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What an amazing athlete/QB?

Johhn Unitas had Ray Berry, John Mackey and Lenny Moore all in the HOF. Terry Bradshaw/Bart Starr played on teams with 8 other HOFers. Tom Brady had the great Bill Belichick.

Look at Andrew Luck yersterday, we all knew it was just a matter of time until...INT..INT...and those he threw were stupid, just like the look on his face.

Russell Wilson has the highest passer rating after three seasons than anyone n history. The most wins, the only 300 passer/100 yard rusher in a game. Most TD's as a rookie. Now add his running ability. Anyone not getting is greatness is either blind or retarded. How can you miss it?

[Malik Hairston]

What if this guy had a Gronk/Dez/Megatron, a Jerry Rice? RW is the most successful QB in pro football history. Nobody has won more games and been to rwo SB's in their first three seasons.

Yesterday he was sucking long and hard then when it matters the most........BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What an amazing athlete/QB?

Johhn Unitas had Ray Berry, John Mackey and Lenny Moore all in the HOF. Terry Bradshaw/Bart Starr played on teams with 8 other HOFers. Tom Brady had the great Bill Belichick.

Look at Andrew Luck yersterday, we all knew it was just a matter of time until...INT..INT...and thoe one he thrw were stupid, just like the look on his face.

Russell Wilson has the highest passer rating after three seasons than anyone n history. The most wins, the only 300 passer/100 yard rusher in a game. Most TD's as a rookie. Now add his running ability. Anyone not getting is greatness is either blind or retarded. How can you miss it?

8-22 4 INTs

[TampaDude]

8-22 4 INTs

28-22

[Avante]

8-22 4 INTs

Barry Sanders...0...yards vs Green Bay once upon a time. New England getting their ass kicked by KC. Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson.

Dude, don't act like rookie, ok? Everyone has a a bad day, ya always look at the body of work.

Ladainian Tomlinson averaged less than 4 yards a carry as a rookie, what a bust...right?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

28-22
All because of RW!!! That elite QB!!

[Malik Hairston]

Here is the list of QBs that threw for at least 4 INTs, less than 210 passing yards and completed less than 50% of their passes in a playoff game(in the modern era):

Russell Wilson
Jake Delhomme
Kerry Collins
Scott Mitchell
Stan Humphries
Mark Vlasic
Jay Shroeder
Richard Todd
Doug Williams
Tommy Kramer

Damn, now that's a list, tbh..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

^ I don't see Killa Cam on that list

you should make that list 3 ints so you can add Luck up there

[Malik Hairston]

And the best part..every single one of those QBs lost the game, except for Wilson's team :lmao:lmao:lmao

That's a different level of stacked, tbh..

[spurraider21]

you think if those other qb's had the chance, they would have gone on 3 consecutive TD drives to close the game, tbh?

[Malik Hairston]

Who cares?

Those other QBs never had the chance, because their teams were out of the game..as the list shows, your team should have no chance to win if your QB plays that poorly in a playoff game..this Seahawks team is a different level of stacked..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

you think if those other qb's had the chance, they would have gone on 3 consecutive TD drives to close the game, tbh?
Delhomme has done it multiple times.


next deflection?

[Avante]

Here is the list of QBs that threw for at least 4 INTs, less than 210 passing yards and completed less than 50% of their passes in a playoff game(in the modern era):

Russell Wilson
Jake Delhomme
Kerry Collins
Scott Mitchell
Stan Humphries
Mark Vlasic
Jay Shroeder
Richard Todd
Doug Williams
Tommy Kramer

Damn, now that's a list, tbh..

The list of those who have beaten SB winning QB 's 11 times, never losing to a SB winning QB in their career.

Russell Wilson

The list of QB 's to QB two SB teams in their first three seasons.

Russell Wilson

The list of QB's who passed for over 300 and ran for over 100 in a game.

Russell Wilson

Those who hold the rookie record for QB's.

Peyton Manning
Russell Wilson

The list of QB's who had a passer rating of 100 in their first two seasons.

Russell Wilson

[TampaDude]

All because of RW!!! That elite QB!!

Who threw the 2-point conversion?

Who threw the game-winning TD?

I rest my case.

28-22

[Pelicans78]

Here is the list of QBs that threw for at least 4 INTs, less than 210 passing yards and completed less than 50% of their passes in a playoff game(in the modern era):

Russell Wilson
Jake Delhomme
Kerry Collins
Scott Mitchell
Stan Humphries
Mark Vlasic
Jay Shroeder
Richard Todd
Doug Williams
Tommy Kramer


Damn, now that's a list, tbh..

The bolded are in the Black QB Hall of Fame tbh.

Now outside of Wilson, everyone else played in a different era with less stringent rules for the defense. Wilson was remarkably horrible in a game where they're heavy favorites against a bad defense and a team that struggles on the road. Yeah, his team won the game, but that's not a good omen going into a neutral site Super Bowl against a much better Pats defense/team.

[Pelicans78]

Who threw the 2-point conversion?

Who threw the game-winning TD?

I rest my case.

28-22

The TD pass was nice, but the two-point conversion was basically a Hail Mary where the Packer defenders made a horrible attempt at the ball.

[TampaDude]

The list of those who have beaten SB winning QB 's 11 times, never losing to a SB winning QB in their career.

Russell Wilson

The list of QB 's to QB two SB teams in their first three seasons.

Russell Wilson

The list of QB's who passed for over 300 and ran for over 100 in a game.

Russell Wilson

Those who hold the rookie record for QB's.

Peyton Manning
Russell Wilson

The list of QB's who had a passer rating of 100 in their first two seasons.

Russell Wilson

:toast

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Who threw the 2-point conversion?

Who threw the game-winning TD?

I rest my case.

28-22
Who caught the 2 point conversion? Who caught the game winner?


who kept them in the game when RW had more interceptions than completions?

[TampaDude]

The TD pass was nice, but the two-point conversion was basically a Hail Mary where the Packer defenders made a horrible attempt at the ball.

Was the pass completed or not? Did the Seahawks win the game or not?

[TampaDude]

Who caught the 2 point conversion? Who caught the game winner?


who kept them in the game when RW had more interceptions than completions?


The Legion of Boom, niggaz! :hat

[Pelicans78]

Was the pass completed or not? Did the Seahawks win the game or not?

Sure they won the game, but its also a reflection on how average Seattle's offense has been all season. Pats have a much better defense than GB and really have a decisive advantage over the Seahawks offense.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The list of those who have beaten SB winning QB 's 11 times, never losing to a SB winning QB in their career.

Russell Wilson

The list of QB 's to QB two SB teams in their first three seasons.

Russell Wilson

The list of QB's who passed for over 300 and ran for over 100 in a game.

Russell Wilson

Those who hold the rookie record for QB's.

Peyton Manning
Russell Wilson

The list of QB's who had a passer rating of 100 in their first two seasons.

Russell Wilson
Compare Newton and Wilson's 200/100 games. You are cherry picking stats.

Cams rookie season shits on RW's too btw

[TampaDude]

The bolded are in the Black QB Hall of Fame tbh.

Ah, Doug Williams...thanks for bringing up one of my fondest memories as a Redskins Fan.

Super Bowl XXII...The Quarter! :hat

[Avante]

Anyone not getting Russell Wilson don't understand the game at all. I was talking about him prior to him being drafted, I could see..."it"....at Wisconsin. And Im the guy who saw Montana at ND, John Unitas as a Colt. I know what a "gonna be great QB" looks like.

[TampaDude]

Sure they won the game, but its also a reflection on how average Seattle's offense has been all season. Pats have a much better defense than GB and really have a decisive advantage over the Seahawks offense.

You are forgetting that Seattle's defense is light years better than Indy's defense. Brady is gonna get ate up. Just watch.

[Avante]

Compare Newton and Wilson's 200/100 games. You are cherry picking stats.

Cams rookie season shits on RW's too btw

Cam Newton wouldn't make a zit on the ass of Russell Wilson, when will you ever figure that out?

[Pelicans78]

Ah, Doug Williams...thanks for bringing up one of my fondest memories as a Redskins Fan.

Super Bowl XXII...The Quarter! :hat

That game was unreal. Denver came out with a 10-0 lead and most people had them favorites to win. Then the 2nd quarter. Boom!

Funny thing was, Elway and Broncos were awaiting a worse Super Bowl blowout. The only thing interesting during a Super Bowl featuring the 80s Broncos was the Bud Bowl.

[spurraider21]

Delhomme has done it multiple times.


next deflection?
how was that a deflection? :lol

deflection is changing the topic. that was a question ON the topic.

would you be so kind as to provide a link of when delhomme led 3 consecutive TD drives to close a game?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Cam Newton wouldn't make a zit on the ass of Russell Wilson, when will you ever figure that out?
I absolutely cannot wait until they drop Lynch next year. I'm gonna bully you every week next season.

[Avante]

Andrew Luck is an INT waiting to happen, RW is a....are you kidding me, an INT?????

[Pelicans78]

Cam Newton wouldn't make a zit on the ass of Russell Wilson, when will you ever figure that out?

Cam has had more degree of difficulty to work with since he took over a horrible team as the number one pick. Wilson was drafted on a solid team in the 3rd round. I don't think RW would have anymore success than Cam has had if he was the QB in Carolina.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Who cares?

Those other QBs never had the chance, because their teams were out of the game..as the list shows, your team should have no chance to win if your QB plays that poorly in a playoff game..this Seahawks team is a different level of stacked..
:tuPrecisely

[Avante]

I absolutely cannot wait until they drop Lynch next year. I'm gonna bully you every week next season.

You'll run you're mouth we'll make some bet then I'll pity you and let you back in just like it's always been.

[TampaDude]

Anyone not getting Russell Wilson don't understand the game at all. I was talking about him prior to him being drafted, I could see..."it"....at Wisconsin. And Im the guy who saw Montana at ND, John Unitas as a Colt. I know what a "gonna be great QB" looks like.

Ah, the 1979 Cotton Bowl...the "Chicken Soup Game"...Joe Montana, with the flu, leads that awesome comeback against the Cougars and wins 35-34 as time expires. I was there. Like you, I knew Joe was destined for greatness.

[Pelicans78]

You are forgetting that Seattle's defense is light years better than Indy's defense. Brady is gonna get ate up. Just watch.

Of course they are, but the Pats offense is really good as well. There's not a huge advantage either way in that matchup. But the Pats defense has a decided edge against Seattle's offense.

[Avante]

Cam has had more degree of difficulty to work with since he took over a horrible team as the number one pick. Wilson was drafted on a solid team in the 3rd round. I don't think RW would have anymore success than Cam has had if he was the QB in Carolina.

Pete Carroll had...

7-9
7-9

before RW arrived, so what are you talking about?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

how was that a deflection? :lol

deflection is changing the topic. that was a question ON the topic.

would you be so kind as to provide a link of when delhomme led 3 consecutive TD drives to close a game?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070car.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200411140sfo.htm

Want a shit ton of 2 TD come backs, look here:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=DelhJa00

[TampaDude]

Of course they are, but the Pats offense is really good as well. There's not a huge advantage either way in that matchup. But the Pats defense has a decided edge against Seattle's offense.

We shall see, my friend. :toast

[DAF86]

Funny thing is he will probably win SB MVP, tbh.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Pete Carroll had...

7-9
7-9

before RW arrived, so what are you talking about?

Look up 2010 Carolina Panthers.

Do you even watch football?

The 2011 Panthers were Cam Newton, and..... that's it.

[Avante]

Ah, the 1979 Cotton Bowl...the "Chicken Soup Game"...Joe Montana, with the flu, leads that awesome comeback against the Cougars and wins 35-34 as time expires. I was there. Like you, I knew Joe was destined for greatness.

You can see.."it"....and Montana had .."it". It was so obvious, just like it was/is with Russell Wilson.

[spurraider21]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070car.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200411140sfo.htm

Want a shit ton of 2 TD come backs, look here:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=DelhJa00
oh wow, look. none of those have 3 consecutive touchdown drives to end the game

[TampaDude]

You can see.."it"....and Montana had .."it". It was so obvious, just like it was/is with Russell Wilson.

Indeed. Is it too early to start calling Wilson the new "Comeback Kid"? :toast

[Pelicans78]

Pete Carroll had...

7-9
7-9

before RW arrived, so what are you talking about?

Which was alot better than what Cam had when he arrived to Carolina. The Panthers were the worst team in the league before Cam got there.

Also Carroll didn't have a top 10 defense his first two seasons. Since RW was drafted, they've been the best defense in the league in each of his seasons.

[Avante]

Look up 2010 Carolina Panthers.

Do you even watch football?

The 2011 Panthers were Cam Newton, and..... that's it.


Little man, I was watching JD Smith breaking tackles for the Niners in the early 60's, do I watch football..hahahaha!!!!!!!!! Where were you when the Jets beat the Colts in SB I? Not that it was called that back then. Do I watch footbalL...hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cam Newton is a loser, get used to it amigo.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

oh wow, look. none of those have 3 consecutive touchdown drives to end the game

:lol cherry picking?

You said three touchdowns comebacks.. and I picked games where he made three PASSING touchdowns to come back solely... not even the games he made 3 TD comebacks.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Look up 2010 Carolina Panthers.

The 2011 Panthers were Cam Newton, and..... that's it.
Avante

[spurraider21]

:lol cherry picking?

You said three touchdowns comebacks.. and I picked games where he made three PASSING touchdowns to come back solely... not even the games he made 3 TD comebacks.
no, i didn't

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

no, i didn't

:lol okay

Well Delhomme has done what Russell Wilson has done multiple times. It wasn't that special. I'm more concerned with 4 picks than one GW TD.

[Avante]

Which was alot better than what Cam had when he arrived to Carolina. The Panthers were the worst team in the league before Cam got there.

Also Carroll didn't have a top 10 defense his first two seasons. Since RW was drafted, they've been the best defense in the league in each of his seasons.

Are you really trying to compare Cam Newton to Russell Wilson, you gotta be kidding me.

[TampaDude]

:lol okay

Well Delhomme has done what Russell Wilson has done multiple times. It wasn't that special. I'm more concerned with 4 picks than one GW TD.

Imagine what the Seahawks would have done to the Packers without those 5 turnovers. It would've been a slaughter. Unless the Pats can get 5 turnovers off the Seahawks, they're not winning the SB.

[Pelicans78]

Are you really trying to compare Cam Newton to Russell Wilson, you gotta be kidding me.

Talent wise there is a comparison. RW has more intangibles which is why he makes fewer mistakes, but Cam has the potential to be a more productive QB. Heck, he's only had a top 10 defense once in his 4 seasons and his team went 12-4.

[Pelicans78]

Imagine what the Seahawks would have done to the Packers without those 5 turnovers. It would've been a slaughter. Unless the Pats can get 5 turnovers off the Seahawks, they're not winning the SB.

This Seattle team isn't as strong as last year's team because the offense is alot weaker. The Pats don't need turnovers to win the game. They've been the best team in the league since week 4. Plus, this game isn't in Seattle.

[TampaDude]

This Seattle team isn't as strong as last year's team because the offense is alot weaker. The Pats don't need turnovers to win the game. They've been the best team in the league since week 4. Plus, this game isn't in Seattle.

It's not in New England, either.

I'll admit that getting Gronk back was huge...he completely changes the complexion of the Pats' offense. That said, the Seahawks have the #1 defense in the NFL, and it's not even close.

It should be a great Super Bowl! :toast

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Imagine

You keep doing that. Just like you're imagining Wilson is something spectacular.

[TampaDude]

You keep doing that. Just like you're imagining Wilson is something spectacular.

You mean, like you imagine the Panthers winning a Super Bowl? :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Talent wise there is a comparison. RW has more intangibles which is why he makes fewer mistakes, but Cam has the potential to be a more productive QB. Heck, he's only had a top 10 defense once in his 4 seasons and his team went 12-4.

Don't bother, man.

He's focused on one 300/100 game from Wilson.

[Clipper Nation]

Andrew Luck is an INT waiting to happen, RW is a....are you kidding me, an INT?????
More like, "wow, Wilson managed to avoid INT #5?"

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You mean, like you imagine the Redskins having a winning record this century

Sure.

[TampaDude]

Sure.

3 > 0

Math > You

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Math > You


http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap2000000206989/Franchise-QB-Wilson-or-Newton

[Avante]

More like, "wow, Wilson managed to avoid INT #5?"

Andrew Luck throws stupid INT's, and we all see it. RW rarely throws INT's and two of those were off the hands of receivers and the other two he's looking for a receiver to make a play.

Damn you're dumb, wow~

[Clipper Nation]

Andrew Luck throws stupid INT's, and we all see it.
Wilson throws stupid INT's and his stacked team still wins without him.

[spurraider21]

:lol okay

Well Delhomme has done what Russell Wilson has done multiple times. It wasn't that special. I'm more concerned with 4 picks than one GW TD.
not sure what is :lol-worthy there... this was my original remark on the issue. if you can't read, that's not my problem.


you think if those other qb's had the chance, they would have gone on 3 consecutive TD drives to close the game, tbh?

by the way how's massage therapy school going

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

not sure what is :lol-worthy there... this was my original remark on the issue. if you can't read, that's not my problem.



by the way how's massage therapy school going

Why are you cherry-picking? He's come back from 3 TD deficits. If a team is down 17-0, and wins 21-20, that doesn't count because SF scored a field goal in between?

You are a joke.

[TampaDude]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap2000000206989/Franchise-QB-Wilson-or-Newton

Hey, I never said Cam wasn't a good QB. I still remember that Iron Bowl game when he led Auburn back from a 24-point deficit. He's definitely talented and freakishly athletic. But for a stolen laptop, that might've been Florida winning the National Title in 2010 instead of Auburn. :lol

When Cam Newton leads Carolina to a SB Championship, then I will STFU about it, but until then, expect smack talk. :D

[spurraider21]

Why are you cherry-picking? He's come back from 3 TD deficits. If a team is down 17-0, and wins 21-20, that doesn't count because SF scored a field goal in between?

You are a joke.
i'm sure he has come back from 3 TD deficits. that's not my concern. i was using yesterday's game in context, not cherrypicking. it wasn't a 3 TD comeback (their biggest deficit was 16). but he did put together 3 straight TD drives to close the game.

[Raven]

Filo carefully using td drives, to avoid the fact that one td was thrown by the fucking punter (meaning wilson failed on that drive) and one was a 24yd lynch run.. led 3td drives :lmao:lmao:lmao

[spurraider21]

Filo carefully using td drives, to avoid the fact that one td was thrown by the fucking punter (meaning wilson failed on that drive) and one was a 24yd lynch run.. led 3td drives :lmao:lmao:lmao
the FG fake was in the 3rd quarter and is not one of the drives i'm referring to. i'm talking about 2 in the final 4 minutes + one in OT

[Raven]

the FG fake was in the 3rd quarter and is not one of the drives i'm referring to. i'm talking about 2 in the final 4 minutes + one in OT

Still counting lynch carrying 6 six nigs for a first down, then catching a deep sideline throw and bullying his way to a 24yd td as "led td drive" ..

[spurraider21]

Still counting lynch carrying 6 six nigs for a first down, then catching a deep sideline throw and bullying his way to a 24yd td as "led td drive" ..
who threw that sideline pass?

[Spur-Addict]

who threw that sideline pass?

http://theclinkr.com/sites/default/files/gifs/russell_wilson.gif

[Raven]

who threw that sideline pass?

See now why people hate him? See why harvin had to be traded away? See why lynch wants out?

[spurraider21]

See now why people hate him? See why harvin had to be traded away? See why lynch wants out?
no

i dont get it. are you now suggesting a QB shouldn't even get credit for a pass he threw?

[Raven]

no

i dont get it. are you now suggesting a QB shouldn't even get credit for a pass he threw?

You talked about td drives man...

[spurraider21]

i dont get it. are you now suggesting a QB shouldn't even get credit for a pass he threw?

[Infinite_limit]

He played like a black QB for 50 of the 60 minutes

[Ice009]

I absolutely cannot wait until they drop Lynch next year. I'm gonna bully you every week next season.

I haven't really been following the NFL this season until the playoffs started. I stopped at around week 7 or 8, just didn't have time to watch many games from that point up until the playoffs started. Why have they been considering dumping Lynch? Are they retarded? Is he asking for more money than they are willing to pay him? Is he a free agent?

[Sean Cagney]

I haven't really been following the NFL this season until the playoffs started. I stopped at around week 7 or 8, just didn't have time to watch many games from that point up until the playoffs started. Why have they been considering dumping Lynch? Are they retarded? Is he asking for more money than they are willing to pay him? Is he a free agent?I agree being he is a HUGE part of their team and what keeps it running IMO. He is their MVP and one of the best runners in the NFL bar none, letting him go would be the end of that team IMO as a Superbowl contender.

[Infinite_limit]

I haven't really been following the NFL this season until the playoffs started. I stopped at around week 7 or 8, just didn't have time to watch many games from that point up until the playoffs started. Why have they been considering dumping Lynch? Are they retarded? Is he asking for more money than they are willing to pay him? Is he a free agent?
They have to resign Wilson. Lynch's effort in regular season games can be questioned. They feel they can draft an adequate replacement. They need to invest in improving the pass offense. Kearse as Top 2 is bad

[sook]

He played like a black QB for 50 of the 60 minutes

waysis.

[Raven]

I haven't really been following the NFL this season until the playoffs started. I stopped at around week 7 or 8, just didn't have time to watch many games from that point up until the playoffs started. Why have they been considering dumping Lynch? Are they retarded? Is he asking for more money than they are willing to pay him? Is he a free agent?

basically harvin and lynch got tired of not getting money or credit for what has been done and so harvin has been traded away and they decided to give wilson a 25Mper contract and move on from lynch.

[Spur-Addict]

basically harvin and lynch got tired of not getting money or credit for what has been done and so harvin has been traded away and they decided to give wilson a 25Mper contract and move on from lynch.

:lmao

[The Gemini Method]

:lmao

:lol The bitch in people on here...

[Spur-Addict]

:lol The bitch in people on here...

It's an ongoing schtick with this one. It's practically satire at this point. While the usual suspects have disappeared for the most part, he/she cannot help but pick up the torch :lol

[Avante]

Imagine if Tate/Harvin were still there.

How anyone can not see what RW is doing is amazing to me. What more can the guy do in three seasons? And nobody has ever done it better in their first three seasons than this guy.

RGIII is a mess.
Andrew Luck looks goofy/stupid and throws way too many INTs.
RW is playing in SB 's and looks cool doing it.

[Infinite_limit]

Imagine if Tate/Harvin were still there.

How anyone can not see what RW is doing is amazing to me. What more can the guy do in three seasons? And nobody has ever done it better in their first three seasons than this guy.

RGIII is a mess.
Andrew Luck looks goofy/stupid and throws way too many INTs.
RW is playing in SB 's and looks cool doing it.
Hows that purple butt plug going for you?

[Avante]

Hows that purple butt plug going for you?

How's that looking in a mirror and seeing an idiot staring back going for you?

[leemajors]

I found Wilson afterward, and asked him about the four picks, and going from the worst game of his life to the most exhilarating in the span of eight minutes of game time.

"That's God setting it up, to make it so dramatic, so rewarding, so special," he said, alone for a moment in the locker room before heading out for the night. "I've been through a lot in life, and had some ups and downs. It's what's led me to this day."

http://deadspin.com/russell-wilson-i-blame-those-four-interceptions-on-god-1680641071

[benefactor]

:cry God setting it up :cry

It's like the Seahawks have annoying faggots on every level.

[Raven]

marshawn lynch, also known as God.

[benefactor]

marshawn lynch, also known as God.
:lol

[spurraider21]

marshawn lynch, also known as God.
im surprised he's playing well despite the loss of team leader Giacomini

[Raven]

im surprised he's playing well despite the loss of team leader Giacomini
Me too, just God doing godly things tbh

[Avante]

A very real possibilty...

Dan Marino no SB wins
Joe Namath one SB win
Warren Moon no SB wins
Jim Kelly no SB wins
Fran Tarkenton no SB wins
John Unitas no SB wins
Steve Young one SB win
Dan Fouts no SB wins
Andrew Luck no SB wins
Peyton Manning one SB win
Russell Wilson two SB wins

[Malik Hairston]

A very real possibilty...

Dan Marino no SB wins
Joe Namath one SB win
Warren Moon no SB wins
Jim Kelly no SB wins
Fran Tarkenton no SB wins
John Unitas no SB wins
Steve Young one SB win
Dan Fouts no SB wins
Andrew Luck no SB wins
Peyton Manning one SB win
Russell Wilson two SB wins

Those are team accomplishments..

[Malik Hairston]

Interesting Russell Wilson team stat:

The Seahawks have only been underdogs in the playoffs once since Wilson became QB, and they lost that game..

So, their stacked team has been favored to win in every single playoff game outside of 1(which they lost:lol)..

[Avante]

Those are team accomplishments..

So how come we hear....Doug Williams the first black QB to win a Superbowl?

[The Gemini Method]

Weren't they underdogs against your beloved Broncos? What happened there?

[Malik Hairston]

Weren't they underdogs against your beloved Broncos? What happened there?

I don't count SBs, they're public events, the spreads are completely directed towards the casual fan(Manning being a public darling, public pounded the Broncos)..

[Malik Hairston]

So how come we hear....Doug Williams the first black QB to win a Superbowl?

So, where do you rank Terry Bradshaw?

[Avante]

I don't count SBs, they're public events, the spreads are completely directed towards the casual fan(Manning being a public darling, public pounded the Broncos)..

That isn't true at all the ...casual...fan has no clue what a ...7.5....means. The spread is for knowledgeable gamblers.

[Avante]

So, where do you rank Terry Bradshaw?


He's a top 30 QB.

[Malik Hairston]

That isn't true at all the ...casual...fan has no clue what a ...7.5....means. The spread is for knowledgeable gamblers.

It's common knowledge that the SB is a public event, it generates more money from the casual betting fan than any other event in sports..

Sharp bettors don't care about the SB any more than they care about week 3 of the regular season, as I'm sure you know..

[Malik Hairston]

He's a top 30 QB.

He has 4 Super Bowls, though..according to your criteria, he should be no worse than top 5..

[Avante]

He has 4 Super Bowls, though..according to your criteria, he should be no worse than top 5..

Bradshaw's number simply don't work. Now add the fact he played on a team with 8 other future HOFers.

[Malik Hairston]

Bradshaw's number simply don't work. Now add the fact he played on a team with 8 other future HOFers.

But you've already proven that you don't care about supporting cast, just results..

Bradshaw has 4 rings, you can't ignore that..

[NFO]

Watch out. Avante changes the criteria to fit his argument.

When called out on it he panics and starts rambling off previous accomplishments (that are meaningless), posts a bunch of older players that he thinks are more relevant or to change the topic, or calls you little man.

Not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Avante]

But you've already proven that you don't care about supporting cast, just results..

Bradshaw has 4 rings, you can't ignore that..

I'm not ignoring that, that's why he's in the top 30. Been tons of QB's play in the NFL.

When you have....

A Hall of Fame....

center
two wide receivers
a running back (another with 1000 yards)
defensive lineman
two linebackers
cornerback

..that does make a difference.

[Avante]

Watch out. Avante changes the criteria to fit his argument.

When called out on it he panics and starts rambling off previous accomplishments (that are meaningless), posts a bunch of older players that he thinks are more relevant or to change the topic, or calls you little man.

Not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

In your case....dumb faggot.....says it all. Funny watching you.....how about Kurt Warner? Me.....HE DOESN'T FIT THE CRITERIA. you...ok, but how about Kurt Warner, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking idiot.

[NFO]

Criteria??? You mean he didn't play the 1st 3 years??

Aaron Rodgers hardly played his 1st three years and you mentioned him.

The criteria was who has had the best three years to start, was it not you fucking moron.

You can't even get your own question right. How fucking sad is that? Pretty fucking sad.

[Pelicans78]

Bradshaw's number simply don't work. Now add the fact he played on a team with 8 other future HOFers.

Watch the highlights. His supporting cast wasn't that great in the last two Super Bowl wins. They got older. He was huge in both of those Super Bowl wins. Shoot, that defense was having trouble with Vince Farrigamo.

[Pelicans78]

I'm not ignoring that, that's why he's in the top 30. Been tons of QB's play in the NFL.

When you have....

A Hall of Fame....

center
two wide receivers
a running back (another with 1000 yards)
defensive lineman
two linebackers
cornerback

..that does make a difference.

So does playing with the number one defense in the league for 3 straight seasons and Marshawn Lynch.

[Pelicans78]

Bradshaw's number simply don't work. Now add the fact he played on a team with 8 other future HOFers.

And Wilson plays with Lynch and the number one defense in the league.

[Avante]

Criteria??? You mean he didn't play the 1st 3 years??

Aaron Rodgers hardly played his 1st three years and you mentioned him.

The criteria was who has had the best three years to start, was it not you fucking moron.

You can't even get your own question right. How fucking sad is that? Pretty fucking sad.

Sad is totally ignoring the fact Warners rookie season was non existant. Add his numbers up for his first three seasons vs RW and it's comical.

[Avante]

Watch the highlights. His supporting cast wasn't that great in the last two Super Bowl wins. They got older. He was huge in both of those Super Bowl wins. Shoot, that defense was having trouble with Vince Farrigamo.

What are you looking at? In his last SB Bradshaw threw three INT's. That aging D gave up 301 yards and only one TD.

In the preceding SB, Bradshaw 9-19 for 209 yards.

What are you looking at?

[Avante]

And Wilson plays with Lynch and the number one defense in the league.

Bart Starr played with 8 other HOFers to be. Troy had Emmitt, Irvin and Novacek. Peyton had Harrison, Wayne and Clark. Montana had Rice and Taylor and Craig.

Give RW some receiving weapons. He's never had a great TE or receiver.

[Avante]

Johnny Unitas is considered by many old timers/historians to be the best QB ever. There is no mention that he had the best receiver in that era....Ray Berry, the best TE.....John Mackey and the first great receiving running back....Lenny Moore. AND...Jim Parker a HOF tackle. All of those mentioned in the HOF.

Fran Tarkenton lost how many SB's? And he played on a team with a great defense....The Purple People Eaters. Tarkenton....HOF!

Bart Starr's passing stats are ridiculous, but he did have two...HOF...backs, and a D with 4 HOFer on it.

How come nobody ever says talks about all the help those QB's got?

[Avante]

His last NCAA season he goes....11-3, his first pro season...12-6, his second....16-3, this season....15-3.

So in the last 4 years....54-15. At no time did he lose by more than 10 points.

[Raven]

Bart Starr played with 8 other HOFers to be. Troy had Emmitt, Irvin and Novacek. Peyton had Harrison, Wayne and Clark. Montana had Rice and Taylor and Craig.

Give RW some receiving weapons. He's never had a great TE or receiver.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[NFO]

Sad is totally ignoring the fact Warners rookie season was non existant. Add his numbers up for his first three seasons vs RW and it's comical.

Dude, can you read?

I never said KWs first 3 years were better than RWs, just that he should be in the conversation.

Besides Rodgers didn't play hardly at all but you listed him in a comparisson. Seems to me you need to learn how to count old timer.

If RW doesn't have the defense and the RB he has on his team he is probably 1/2 the QB he is now. Put RW on the Raiders and he is not so great. Dude threw 4 picks against a bad GB defense. The Seahawks won not because of RW but in spite of him. How many SB MVPs does he have? He isn't even the best offensive player on his own team.

[DeadlyDynasty]

RW: the story of a man who overcame being dealt pocket aces

[benefactor]

Jesus it's painful watching Avante talk football.

[Avante]

Jesus it's painful watching Avante talk football.

I can understand that, too many facts and examples of those facts, huh?

I'm watching Wisconsin play in 2011, I kept noticing their QB was looking amazing. The guy was cool, mobile, he was making all the right decisions. It was real obvious he simply had..."it".

As we can see all my..."keep an eye on Russell Wilson".....was right on. Just as my...."RGIII won't make it"...was.

[NFO]

Jesus it's painful watching Avante talk.

Fixed it. You had one word to many. lol

[Clipper Nation]

RW: the story of a man who overcame being dealt pocket aces
:lol Wilson and "pocket" in the same sentence

[Avante]

Fixed it. You had one word to many. lol

As you follow me from forum to forum,, hahahaha!!!

[chunticakes]

Dude, can you read?

I never said KWs first 3 years were better than RWs, just that he should be in the conversation.

Besides Rodgers didn't play hardly at all but you listed him in a comparisson. Seems to me you need to learn how to count old timer.

If RW doesn't have the defense and the RB he has on his team he is probably 1/2 the QB he is now. Put RW on the Raiders and he is not so great. Dude threw 4 picks against a bad GB defense. The Seahawks won not because of RW but in spite of him. How many SB MVPs does he have? He isn't even the best offensive player on his own team.

Truth nukes. I'm loving this Avante NFO saga. Its like watching a mongoloid try to debate with a competent adult.

[benefactor]

Truth nukes. I'm loving this Avante NFO saga. Its like watching a mongoloid try to debate with a competent adult.
Agreed. Quality feud tbh.

[Avante]

Truth nukes. I'm loving this Avante NFO saga. Its like watching a mongoloid try to debate with a competent adult.

A dummy lying about a trivia question who also can't understand....Kurt Warner isn't in the HOF/current player.

This is like a bug vs a windshield, I;m the windsheild.

[NFO]

A dummy lying about a trivia question

Didn't lie, you just didn't get it. Such a sore loser you are.



who also can't understand....Kurt Warner isn't in the HOF/current player.

Like I said previously, you asked for a QB who had a better 3 years than RW and that was it. There were no other criteria added until I brought up KW, then you added all this criteria that made no sense to add.



This is like a bug vs a windshield, I;m the windsheild.

Pretty sure you would be the bug, the very annoying bug.

[Avante]

Didn't lie, you just didn't get it. Such a sore loser you are.




Like I said previously, you asked for a QB who had a better 3 years than RW and that was it. There were no other criteria added until I brought up KW, then you added all this criteria that made no sense to add.




Pretty sure you would be the bug, the very annoying bug.

You're lying right now, and we both know it. You have no answer because ya messed up the question.

So tell us all again about how Kurt Warner isn't eligible for the HOF, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Annoying is you following me around, I'm all you do here, yep...OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you're an obvious idiot, ok?

[NFO]

You're lying right now, and we both know it. You have no answer because ya messed up the question.

Nope. But you whatever makes you fell better old man.



So tell us all again about how Kurt Warner isn't eligible for the HOF, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So now you are copying me by repeating the same phrase. And you think you own me, yet you are copying me. :rollin:rollin



Dude, you're an obvious idiot, ok?

Go to bed old man, it is not looking good for you.

[chunticakes]

You haven't been taking your Aricept, have you Avante?

[Avante]

Nope. But you whatever makes you fell better old man.




So now you are copying me by repeating the same phrase. And you think you own me, yet you are copying me. :rollin:rollin




Go to bed old man, it is not looking good for you.


What's not looking good shorty is asking questions ya fuck up and then having to lie about it, that looks fucked!

You're following me around shit head, you really too stupid to see that? Stop following me around and we're done. Ya can't do it can ya fucker, yep...TOTALLY OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch this sports fans, the dummy is mine.

[Avante]

You haven't been taking your Aricept, have you Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483)?

So how did...I'll just go the opposite of Avante....work out for ya slick? You lost how much playing that?

[NFO]

What's not looking good shorty is asking questions ya fuck up and then having to lie about it, that looks fucked!

Didn't fuck up the question, not lying. Take your meds and get your Dementia in check.



You're following me around shit head, you really too stupid to see that? Stop following me around and we're done. Ya can't do it can ya fucker, yep...TOTALLY OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Copying me and them claiming to own me. :rollin You can't make this shit up. :rollin



Watch this sports fans, the dummy is mine.

Ahh fuck, now the old man is talking to himself.

[Avante]

Here he is yet again, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last chance to answer that trivia question. I don't see it tonight you are history, got it?

You are a liar guy and I'm proving it.

[NFO]

Last chance to answer that trivia question. I don't see it tonight you are history, got it?

You mean the trivia question I asked. Well I already know the answer, which is more than you can say.

[Avante]

This little freak just died.

[NFO]

Contrary to the previous post I am still alive.

[Avante]

Imagine if the Seahawks still had Tate and Harvin.

How they win like they do without a stud TE/receiver is amazing. Good thing Wilson is an athlete not a sitting duck.

Beckham on the Seahawks, hmmm?

[AlexJones]

RW: the story of a man who overcame being dealt pocket aces

Those aces aren't in position, his fanbois point out :lol

[Avante]

We are going to be seeing one of two things after the SB.

If the Seahawks win no matter how RW plays it will be........they won because of Lynch and that defense, RW just tags along.

But....if the Seahawks lose it will be.....Russell Wilson sucks! HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! A fucking game manager and a loser!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NFO]

The Pats game plan will focus on limiting Lynch and making RW beat them and not limiting RW and making Lynch beat them.

[Avante]

It's real obvious that if he had to win a game by throwing the ball, no fucking way. His stats may look great but they are tainted. Who couldn't do what he does with a Beast running the ball and a BOOM defense? Hell, JaMarcus Russell would now be a two time SB champ if he were on these Seahawks, even this dumb tub of jelly completes that pass, hell. I complete that pass, my dead granny could have completed that pass, a fucking monkey completes that pass.

Russell Wilson had us fooled, he came off as being intelligent and smooth when in reality he's a dumb fuck and raggety.

Now he'll get a big contract only because he has curly hair, and won't audible for shit.

With that big $$$$$ the Seahawks won't be able to keep that defense, and without them Russell "The Fake" Wilson ain;'t shit. They'll be lucky to go 4-12 next season. Curly will no doubt suck again while spending all that $$$$ on razors and headphones.

Boy he sure fooled me, had me hook, line and sinker. What a fool I was, Yep, just like old Luke......"
I got my mind right, boss'.