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313
01-19-2015, 12:54 AM
With him being on the decline, I'm curious as to who you guys would pick up on a team over him.

For me it's KD, AD, and really it's tough after that. Harden maybe, but there's questions about how he'll perform come playoffs time.

Darius McCrary
01-19-2015, 12:57 AM
Anthony
Kawhi

Malik Hairston
01-19-2015, 12:58 AM
No way I would take Durant's soft ass, and Harden has been a colossal playoff choker, so I'd have to see him perform well in the playoffs..

Davis is probably better, but we aren't going to know his real impact until he's surrounded by better players and a real coach (he is not as good defensively as people think, though)..

Curry is a PG, so that disqualifies him..

LeBron is clearly on the decline, but too early to take anybody over him IMO..

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 01:04 AM
am i being a GM building a team or a head coach trying to win a chip this year?

313
01-19-2015, 01:06 AM
am i being a GM building a team or a head coach trying to win a chip this year? building a team

313
01-19-2015, 01:09 AM
No way I would take Durant's soft ass, and Harden has been a colossal playoff choker, so I'd have to see him perform well in the playoffs..

Davis is probably better, but we aren't going to know his real impact until he's surrounded by better players and a real coach (he is not as good defensively as people think, though)..

Curry is a PG, so that disqualifies him..

LeBron is clearly on the decline, but too early to take anybody over him IMO..

Yeah, I might be overreacting, but sheesh his defense has been abysmal this year. 2013 Harden ugly. His two way playmaking, imo, was what elevated above everyone else.

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 01:13 AM
building a team
shit, that's different. LeBron just turned 30 and already looks to be on the decline and just lacks fire right now... he doesn't seem to care.

Anthony Davis (21), Kevin Durant (26), Stephen Curry (26) are all guys I'd probably take at the moment. I'd also consider Westbrook (26) and Cousins (24)

Just as a disclaimer though, I'd still take LeBron over any of these guys for this season and probably through next season too

Malik Hairston
01-19-2015, 01:15 AM
Depending on how he performs in the playoffs, Dominos will probably be the best player in the NBA by year's end IMO..

I just really dislike how soft he is, but can't deny his impact..

TrainOfThought5
01-19-2015, 01:22 AM
At this very moment? noone. To build a team around for the future? Give me Davis, or Cousins.

313
01-19-2015, 01:25 AM
Ok, what players do you think you could swap him for on the Cavs, that would make a bigger impact? Kawhi? KD? I'm thinking it would have to be a SF in that situation.

scanry
01-19-2015, 01:26 AM
Durant
Alphabrook
Davis

Only 3 players qualify tbh.

313
01-19-2015, 01:27 AM
Depending on how he performs in the playoffs, Dominos will probably be the best player in the NBA by year's end IMO..

I just really dislike how soft he is, but can't deny his impact..
You don't think dominos outplayed him last year?

At this very moment? noone. To build a team around for the future? Give me Davis, or Cousins.I really wanted to see cousins on an up and coming team, and I thought this was the year. Then they went and fired the coach..

100%duncan
01-19-2015, 01:32 AM
For the next 3 years, no one.
For the future, AD.

Malik Hairston
01-19-2015, 01:45 AM
You don't think dominos outplayed him last year?

Durant's game took a massive hit in the playoffs compared to his regular season last year, he was pretty worn out from carrying OKC through the injuries IMO..it was probably his worst playoff run since his initial playoff appearance..

apalisoc_9
01-19-2015, 01:50 AM
No one right now.

Raven
01-19-2015, 02:11 AM
Lol, if its to build a team id take around 30 guys before him.. for this season or the next three i wouldnt take anyone before him.

Venti Quattro
01-19-2015, 02:13 AM
Can't think of anyone I'd take over LeBron right now except for Durant

rasuo214
01-19-2015, 02:14 AM
Motivated Lebron and going through the motions Lebron are 2 different players (the 2nd version is becoming more and more prevalent). No one is better than a motivated Lebron and I would consider taking him 1st even if building a team if I was comfortable that he would stay motivated more often than not, even at age 30. AD is the only other guy I would consider.

313
01-19-2015, 02:18 AM
Motivated Lebron and going through the motions Lebron are 2 different players (the 2nd version is becoming more and more prevalent). No one is better than a motivated Lebron and I would consider taking him 1st even if building a team if I was comfortable that he would stay motivated more often than not, even at age 30. AD is the only other guy I would consider.
If bringing a championship to Cleveland isn't motivating enough, what is? Surely he sees that coasting isn't an option on this team. Is he still in chill mode after two weeks off or when will he flip the switch?

313
01-19-2015, 02:19 AM
Can't think of anyone I'd take over LeBron right now except for Durantunderstandable

rasuo214
01-19-2015, 04:32 AM
If bringing a championship to Cleveland isn't motivating enough, what is? Surely he sees that coasting isn't an option on this team. Is he still in chill mode after two weeks off or when will he flip the switch?

It should be plenty of motivation but even with the Heat they basically coasted during the regular season (the Pacers were practically trying to give away the 1 seed and the Heat didn't even try to take it). Really the East requires little effort to make the playoffs and how many of those teams are actually a threat to stop them from reaching the finals?

mudyez
01-19-2015, 08:23 AM
http://i.imgur.com/vdtag.gif

j/k

baseline bum
01-19-2015, 09:42 AM
I'd take Davis and Durant.

RsxPiimp
01-19-2015, 09:57 AM
Harden should not never be an option

LkrFan
01-19-2015, 10:09 AM
Anthony
Kawhi
Registered LeHype hater here. After seeing this comment, all I can say is BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :rollin :lmao :rollin

LkrFan
01-19-2015, 10:12 AM
Durant
Alphabrook
Davis

Only 3 players qualify tbh.

This. I might add Bonnie Griffin (younger) to det list.

Spurs9
01-19-2015, 10:32 AM
AD

LkrFan
01-19-2015, 10:42 AM
No way I would take Durant's soft ass, and Harden has been a colossal playoff choker, so I'd have to see him perform well in the playoffs..

Davis is probably better, but we aren't going to know his real impact until he's surrounded by better players and a real coach (he is not as good defensively as people think, though)..

Curry is a PG, so that disqualifies him..

LeBron is clearly on the decline, but too early to take anybody over him IMO..

Explain the bolded son. KD came back from a broken wheel EARLY. LeHype takes 2 weeks off during the season because of a yeast infection. Who does that shit in his prime? You tripping HH. :lol

Jodelo
01-19-2015, 11:17 AM
Austin Rivers.

hater
01-19-2015, 11:46 AM
Roids is coming with lots of baggage. So I would not want him near my franchise.

Sure I'd be picking an inferior player, but I'll also be avoiding a franchise collapse.

Eliancito Gonzales
Lillard
Wall
Durant
Davis
Kawhi

scanry
01-19-2015, 12:26 PM
This. I might add Bonnie Griffin (younger) to det list.

Nah i wouldn't take Ginger bread over Lebron tbh.

Darius McCrary
01-19-2015, 02:14 PM
Registered LeHype hater here. After seeing this comment, all I can say is BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :rollin :lmao :rollin

LeBron has already peaked and declining.

Kawhi has upside.

PingPong
01-19-2015, 02:19 PM
Put Le Bron in the Spurs roster and at least a threepeat is garanteed. I don't think Durant, Davis or Westchimp can bring the same. At least for the next three years.

Malik Hairston
01-19-2015, 02:23 PM
Put Le Bron in the Spurs roster and at least a threepeat is garanteed. I don't think Durant, Davis or Westchimp can bring the same. At least for the next three years.

Westbrook wouldn't fit with the Spurs, but if you put Durant or Davis with the Spurs, they would win 75 games, tbh:lol..

LkrFan
01-19-2015, 02:34 PM
LeBron has already peaked and declining.

Kawhi has upside.

26/6/7-type upside? GTFO here son. BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :rollin :lmao :rollin

hater
01-19-2015, 02:37 PM
Put Le Bron in the Spurs roster and at least a threepeat is garanteed. I don't think Durant, Davis or Westchimp can bring the same. At least for the next three years.

ud have to give up Kawhi. They both could not coexist in the same team. they are polar opposites and play the same position.

and as I said above. No way I want that cancerous roids near my team.

LkrFan
01-19-2015, 03:13 PM
Westbrook wouldn't fit with the Spurs, but if you put Durant or Davis with the Spurs, they would win 75 games, tbh:lol..

Y'all rang 3 times with Enrique, but Westbrook doesn't fit? HH drunk. BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :rollin :lmao :rollin

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 03:21 PM
26/6/7-type upside? GTFO here son. BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :rollin :lmao :rollin
game 3-5 in the finals upside, ese

LkrFan
01-19-2015, 03:52 PM
game 3-5 in the finals upside, ese

Small sample size. -15 points s:loln

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 04:24 PM
Small sample size. -15 points s:loln
was pretty good in the finals the year before too hombre

Jenks
01-19-2015, 04:29 PM
ud have to give up Kawhi. They both could not coexist in the same team. they are polar opposites and play the same position.

and as I said above. No way I want that cancerous roids near my team.
I sort of agree with you about the baggage, but from a bball standpoint he could easily coexist with Kawhi, and I'd bench Parker. Let Lebron run the point, Green defends the 1, and you'd probably have the best defense of all time: Green/Leonard/Lebron/Duncan/Splitter. Yes, insert gif of Lebron jogging on defense here. I'm assuming this is the Lebron who gives a shit playing on a potential 70 win team with a real coach.

LkrFan
01-19-2015, 04:34 PM
was pretty good in the finals the year before too hombre

Dufus McCray said Kiwi has upside as to the reason he'd take him over LeHype. I posted LeHype's 2015 stats as a reality check for you farmers that keep hyping Kiwi up.

He ain't ready. For example, Kobe was tryna take the keys from Shaq since age 19. He eventually evicted him. :lol

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 04:37 PM
Dufus McCray said Kiwi has upside as to the reason he'd take him over LeHype. I posted LeHype's 2015 stats as a reality check for you farmers that keep hyping Kiwi up.

He ain't ready. For example, Kobe was tryna take the keys from Shaq since age 19. He eventually evicted him. :lol
i wouldn't take him over bron tbh... but he does have some good potential

baseline bum
01-19-2015, 04:44 PM
Westbrook wouldn't fit with the Spurs, but if you put Durant or Davis with the Spurs, they would win 75 games, tbh:lol..

I think I just came in my pants at the thought of a Leonard/Davis/Duncan frontcourt.

baseline bum
01-19-2015, 04:54 PM
was pretty good in the finals the year before too hombre

In before missed title clinching free throw reference

100%duncan
01-20-2015, 06:25 AM
Jaime too mad in this thread tbh

LkrFan
01-20-2015, 06:43 AM
Jaime too mad in this thread tbh

:lol

No one is confusing Kiwi as an alpha - hence my theory that he ain't ready to take the mantle from Duncan. Kobe? He fought Shaq tooth and nail - literally. He wasn't waiting for nothing - he tried to take what he wanted (more shots, pussy, you name it :lol)

When Duncan retires, y'all are f:lolcked - Pop patrolling your sidelines or not. Enjoy these last few years of relevancy BNSF. :toast

JohnnyMax
01-20-2015, 06:57 AM
Kyle Korver

100%duncan
01-20-2015, 06:58 AM
:lol

No one is confusing Kiwi as an alpha - hence my theory that he ain't ready to take the mantle from Duncan. Kobe? He fought Shaq tooth and nail - literally. He wasn't waiting for nothing - he tried to take what he wanted (more shots, pussy, you name it :lol)

When Duncan retires, y'all are f:lolcked - Pop patrolling your sidelines or not. Enjoy these last few years of relevancy BNSF. :toast

I'll take Duncan ringing near his 40's, you take Kobe and his 48.5. Comprende? :lol

DMC
01-20-2015, 08:25 AM
I wouldn't take anyone over Lebron. He would be fine on a team with a coach and a system. He'd be more than fine, he'd be unstoppable. Even the Bulls ran a system. Lebron has always been on teams that run the Lebron system. He's never been a selfish player, so put him on an unselfish team and don't make him be the savior.

DMC
01-20-2015, 08:27 AM
:lol

No one is confusing Kiwi as an alpha - hence my theory that he ain't ready to take the mantle from Duncan. Kobe? He fought Shaq tooth and nail - literally. He wasn't waiting for nothing - he tried to take what he wanted (more shots, pussy, you name it :lol)

When Duncan retires, y'all are f:lolcked - Pop patrolling your sidelines or not. Enjoy these last few years of relevancy BNSF. :toast

Oddly, Kobe isn't retired and hasn't been and you're still fucked. Faking a retirement to gain plausible deniability during a press conference with sponsors doesn't make one retired.

100%duncan
01-20-2015, 08:33 AM
Oddly, Kobe isn't retired and hasn't been and you're still fucked. Faking a retirement to gain plausible deniability during a press conference with sponsors doesn't make one retired.

Jaime grasping at straws

ambchang
01-20-2015, 08:40 AM
Anthony Davis as a maybe. That's it.

Durant is great, and I am pleasantly surprised as to how well he has played since coming back from injury, especially how well he is shooting. But he has peaked, and his peak isn't as complete as Lebron's off peak.

Even current Lebron is much easier to build around than Durant. Lebron has undoubtedly slipped, but I'd still take him over Durant over the next 3 years.

DMC
01-20-2015, 08:41 AM
Jaime grasping at straws

That's just the stench in LA getting to him. He just admitted Tim Duncan makes the Spurs relevant even at his age. He then admitted that Tim isn't the beneficiary of a system or a great coach, that it's Tim himself. Can't say the same for Kobe, never could.

Killakobe81
01-20-2015, 08:51 AM
Davis, if talking about future. Lebron is still better than him though. Ditto Durant. Blake Griffin is borderline. Despite a some slight regression (lebron is still in his prime just not at his peak) rather have 3 prime Lebron years overs 6-7 of anyone else.

I like Kiwi but he is NOT even in this convo yet ...

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-20-2015, 10:24 AM
Depending on how he performs in the playoffs, Dominos will probably be the best player in the NBA by year's end IMO..

I just really dislike how soft he is, but can't deny his impact..
... In games that don't matter.

Hes soft in the postseason. He doesn't shoot nearly as well, misses free throws at an alarming rate (93% in reg season). We saw in game 6 he tried to resort to flopping over actually shooting for the win against SA.

hater
01-20-2015, 10:32 AM
it's funny that young stud nigs like Durant, Lebron, Rose are already declining badly yet old guys like Duncan and MVParker still going strong :tu

PingPong
01-20-2015, 10:48 AM
Davis can be a great replacement for Tim. But Le Bron is far more versatile and can fit better at the spurs lineup, even with Kawhi....