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Floyd Pacquiao
01-19-2015, 03:45 PM
QB's Playoff Rating vs Playoff Opponents' Pass Defenses' Season Rating

Romo +43.3
Brady +10.1
Flacco +9.5
Rodgers +6.6
Stafford -0.8
Newton -2.4
Wilson -3.9

:flag:

Avante
01-19-2015, 03:53 PM
I like this these...

Most wins in their first three seasons.

Russell Wilson...42

Most SB's in their first three seasons.

Russell Wilson...2

Floyd Pacquiao
01-19-2015, 03:55 PM
I like this one...

Most wins in their first three seasons.

Marshawn lynch and the legion of boom...42
Fixed it for you

Avante
01-19-2015, 04:03 PM
Fixed it for you

Fix these for me...

Most TD's by a rookie QB....Peyton Manning/Russell Wilson

Only QB to have a 100 passer rating his first two seasons....Russell Wilson

Only QB to pass for 300 and rush for 100 in a game.....Russell Wilson

Floyd Pacquiao
01-19-2015, 04:24 PM
Fix these for me...

Most TD's by a rookie QB....Peyton Manning/Russell Wilson

Only QB to have a 100 passer rating his first two seasons....Russell Wilson

Only QB to pass for 300 and rush for 100 in a game.....Russell Wilson
Russell Wilson rookie year the seahawks had the 27th ranked passing offense:lol

Avante
01-19-2015, 04:35 PM
Russell Wilson rookie year the seahawks had the 27th ranked passing offense:lol

In his rookie season Peyton...

28INTS
56.7 completion%
71.2 passer rating

RW as a rookie

10INTS
64.1 Completion%
100 passer rating

Where were Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Tom Brady as rookies?

How many rookies step right in and within three seasons are playing in two SB, oh yeah.....NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny watching how many ways rookies can shit on greatness, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

J.T.
01-19-2015, 04:40 PM
Most TD's by a rookie QB....Peyton Manning/Russell Wilson


Bet it itches your butthole to have to put two names on this stat every time.

Avante
01-19-2015, 04:42 PM
Bet it itches your butthole to have to put two names on this stat every time.

Totally wrong, it's actually the opposite. There we see RW on the same level wth Peyton Manning as a rookie. Actually had a far better rookie season than Peyton.

Kawhi
01-19-2015, 04:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zEfI70L.png

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-19-2015, 04:48 PM
Totally wrong, it's actually the opposite. There we see RW on the same level wth Peyton Manning as a rookie. Actually had a far better rookie season than Peyton.

& Cam had a better rookie season than Russell

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-19-2015, 04:49 PM
If a stat has Andy Dalton at the top of it, you know not to take it serious, tbh :lol

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:04 PM
& Cam had a better rookie season than Russell

He had an inferior comp %, less TD's and more INT's and a less passer rating, what are you looking at?

Pelicans78
01-19-2015, 05:06 PM
In his rookie season Peyton...

28INTS
56.7 completion%
71.2 passer rating

RW as a rookie

10INTS
64.1 Completion%
100 passer rating

Where were Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Tom Brady as rookies?

How many rookies step right in and within three seasons are playing in two SB, oh yeah.....NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny watching how many ways rookies can shit on greatness, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Wilson plays in a much easier era to pass. I guarantee you any of the guys mentioned above would have just as much success as Wilson if put in the same situation, especially Montana or Brady.

You're telling me you would take Russell Wilson over what Marino did in 1984? That's crazy. No one would take RW over a young Marino. That's non-sense.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-19-2015, 05:06 PM
He had an inferior comp %, less TD's and more INT's and a less passer rating, what are you looking at?

Newton ran for 800 yards, Wilson ran for 500. Cam joined the 4000 club, and had 1000 more yards than Russell that year. Not to mention he had a horrible team

Pelicans78
01-19-2015, 05:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zEfI70L.png

LOL Brees getting no help from his defense. LOL Peyton in the top 10 of defensive support.

Pelicans78
01-19-2015, 05:09 PM
RW has played on team with the top defense in the league for three straight seasons!!! Insane. Alex Smith led the Niners to a NFC Title game mostly on the backs of an elite defense and he's solid at best.

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:15 PM
Wilson plays in a much easier era to pass. I guarantee you any of the guys mentioned above would have just as much success as Wilson if put in the same situation, especially Montana or Brady.

You're telling me you would take Russell Wilson over what Marino did in 1984? That's crazy. No one would take RW over a young Marino. That's non-sense.

Who faces the superior athletes today? You are telling me defenses of the 80's were on par with what we see today? Imagine RW vs those 80's defenses.

Clipper Nation
01-19-2015, 05:15 PM
If a stat has Andy Dalton at the top of it, you know not to take it serious, tbh :lol

You should like that stat actually because it makes Cum Newton look good.

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:17 PM
RW has played on team with the top defense in the league for three straight seasons!!! Insane. Alex Smith led the Niners to a NFC Title game mostly on the backs of an elite defense and he's solid at best.

So it's simply a decent QB on a team with a great back/defense....right?

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-19-2015, 05:19 PM
So it's simply a decent QB on a team with a great back/defense....right?

Also Avante, who won ROTY that year?

Clipper Nation
01-19-2015, 05:19 PM
More neat stats:

Wilson throwing four interceptions, the most he’s thrown in any game in his career. Teams are now 2-42 (.045) in postseason games in the Super Bowl era when they throw at least four interceptions. The only other team to win such a game in that time was the Bills, who beat the Jets 31-27 in 1981 despite four interceptions from quarterback Joe Ferguson.

Wilson's QBR of 13.6 is the lowest by a starting quarterback in a postseason win in the 97 postseason games for which we have QBR data (starting in 2006).

Struggle Wilson was carriedPERIOD

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:19 PM
Newton ran for 800 yards, Wilson ran for 500. Cam joined the 4000 club, and had 1000 more yards than Russell that year. Not to mention he had a horrible team

When comparing QB's, ya look at TD/INT, comp % and passer rating. I thought you knew this?

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:22 PM
More neat stats:

Wilson throwing four interceptions, the most he’s thrown in any game in his career. Teams are now 2-42 (.045) in postseason games in the Super Bowl era when they throw at least four interceptions. The only other team to win such a game in that time was the Bills, who beat the Jets 31-27 in 1981 despite four interceptions from quarterback Joe Ferguson.

Wilson's QBR of 13.6 is the lowest by a starting quarterback in a postseason win in the 97 postseason games for which we have QBR data (starting in 2006).

Struggle Wilson was carriedPERIOD

He has how many great receivers? Who is his stud TE?

The bottom line is is the guy a winner, well no QB has won more games in three seasons than RW.

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:23 PM
Never seen sooooooooooooooooooooo many rookies in one place in my life, wow~~~~~~~~~~

Clipper Nation
01-19-2015, 05:26 PM
He has how many great receivers? Who is his stud TE?

He's had Marshawn Lynch and the league's best defense for his entire career :lol

TampaDude
01-19-2015, 05:31 PM
He has how many great receivers? Who is his stud TE?

The bottom line is is the guy a winner, well no QB has won more games in three seasons than RW.

Yeah, really...give Dez Bryant and Jason Witten to RW...LOL that would be unfair. :lol

Clipper Nation
01-19-2015, 05:32 PM
Yeah, really...give Dez Bryant and Jason Witten to RW...LOL that would be unfair. :lol

Give Seattle's defense and Lynch to Romo, now that would really be unfair.

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 05:33 PM
Yeah, really...give Dez Bryant and Jason Witten to RW...LOL that would be unfair. :lol
:cry Wilson has Lynch
:cry ignore that Romo has Murray, Bryant, Witten, and the best O-Line in the league

TampaDude
01-19-2015, 05:33 PM
Give Seattle's defense and Lynch to Romo, now that would really be unfair.

DeMarco Murray is pretty damn good, though. Sure, Lynch is the best RB in the NFL right now, but don't act like the Cowboys don't have a great RB already.

TampaDude
01-19-2015, 05:34 PM
:cry Wilson has Lynch
:cry ignore that Romo has Murray, Bryant, Witten, and the best O-Line in the league

:toast

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:36 PM
He's had Marshawn Lynch and the league's best defense for his entire career :lol

Didn't you tell me it's all about passing the football? Well?


So you finally...FINALLY..figured out what's really important, what took so damn long? Did ya see Blount win the game for the Pats?

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 05:36 PM
Uh, I think you kind of just made my point, there, thanks!
possibly because i'm in agreement

Clipper Nation
01-19-2015, 05:37 PM
Didn't you tell me it's all about passing the football? Well?

According to you, it's still all about running the football, three yards and a cloud of dust... yet here you are slurping a quarterback and complaining that he doesn't have enough weapons in the passing game.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-19-2015, 05:38 PM
Giving Seattle Dez Bryant and Jason Witten wouldn't matter much because they still have Lynch. If you gave the Cowboys Lynch alone they would be unstoppable. There would be no defense in the world that could stop that. Seattle couldn't stop Dallas with Murray alone.

TampaDude
01-19-2015, 05:39 PM
possibly because i'm in agreement

Well, okay, then. :lol

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:44 PM
Johnny Unitas had three HOFers to throw to.
Terry Bradhaw had Franco, Stallworth, Swann.
Bart Starr had two HOF backs in Taylor/Hornung.
Troy Aikman had it all.
Joe Montana had Clark/Rice/Taylor/Jones
Roger Staubach had it all.
Dan Marino had Duper/Clayton.
Bob Griese had Paul Warfield.
Jim Kelly had Thomas, Reed.

Otto Graham had a Dante Levelli and Mac Speedie, go ahead, Google.

RW has never had a gang of quality receivers or a stud TE.

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:48 PM
According to you, it's still all about running the football, three yards and a cloud of dust... yet here you are slurping a quarterback and complaining that he doesn't have enough weapons in the passing game.

I'll go slow....(you can do this)

When ya run the ball you are now in third and short.........ya with me? Now what does a defense do, yep..."run or pass?" Ya getting this? You are also wearing down a defense, as we saw with Blount vs Colts. Now that opens up everything else.

You are able to protect the lead, have long time consuming drives giving your D a blow while beating up theirs. Now think about bad weather games?

You getting it now shorty, let me guess...ZOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Russell Wilson is an amazing talent and only a dummy like you wouldn't get it.

Pelicans78
01-19-2015, 05:48 PM
Who faces the superior athletes today? You are telling me defenses of the 80's were on par with what we see today? Imagine RW vs those 80's defenses.

Well the skilled players weren't superior athletically compared to today so it goes both eyes. But the game was more physical, QBs were less protected, DBs could play more physical, less WRs went over the middle of the field due to the possibility of getting killed by the likes on Ronnie Lott, Steve Atwater, etc. I think chances are a guy like RW would have been injured more with his style of play.

Pelicans78
01-19-2015, 05:51 PM
DeMarco Murray is pretty damn good, though. Sure, Lynch is the best RB in the NFL right now, but don't act like the Cowboys don't have a great RB already.

But Romo was putting up really numbers before Dez Bryant showed up. Never has played with the number one defense in the league.

Avante
01-19-2015, 05:52 PM
Well the skilled players weren't superior athletically compared to today so it goes both eyes. But the game was more physical, QBs were less protected, DBs could play more physical, less WRs went over the middle of the field due to the possibility of getting killed by the likes on Ronnie Lott, Steve Atwater, etc. I think chances are a guy like RW would have been injured more with his style of play.

You might wanna check out 40 times from the 80's compared to today. Hell yes these guys today are more physically gifted than 30 years ago. Bigger, faster and stronger.

Russell Wilson is without question on a par with Tarkenton and he's faster. Tarkenton is still among the stat leaders all these yers later.

Kawhi
01-19-2015, 07:29 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7uoFs3CEAAha5r.png

unleashbaynes
01-19-2015, 07:40 PM
:lmao he's lucky to have DeFumble even though he cost us a fucking playoff game with his shitty ball security. Fuck outta here with that shit.

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 08:20 PM
:lmao he's lucky to have DeFumble even though he cost us a fucking playoff game with his shitty ball security. Fuck outta here with that shit.
yeah, just ignore the NFL's leading rusher, and ignore his 25 carries for 123 yards and a TD. lets focus on one play and then act like Murray is holding Romo back :lmao

unleashbaynes
01-19-2015, 08:33 PM
yeah, just ignore the NFL's leading rusher, and ignore his 25 carries for 123 yards and a TD. lets focus on one play and then act like Murray is holding Romo back :lmao

Let's just conveniently ignore the fact that his breakout season came behind the most dominant oline in the league. I saw Joseph Randle break some pretty nice runs behind them as well. 123 yards and a TD......means nothing when I can't trust you to hold on to the fucking ball. He carries the thing like a loaf of bread, away from his body. He costs you games with that stupid shit. This time it was a playoff game.

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 08:35 PM
Let's just conveniently ignore the fact that his breakout season came behind the most dominant oline in the league. I saw Joseph Randle break some pretty nice runs behind them as well. 123 yards and a TD......means nothing when I can't trust you to hold on to the fucking ball. He carries the thing like a loaf of bread, away from his body. He costs you games with that stupid shit. This time it was a playoff game.
yeah, the cowboys have the best o-line in the league and an elite ground game

:cry poor romo

unleashbaynes
01-19-2015, 08:39 PM
An elite ground game wouldn't fumble on possibly the weakest desperation strip attempt I've ever seen. An elite ground game scores on that play where the oline opens up a fucking canyon to run through.


And what's your point anyway? Or are you just trying to be annoying?

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 08:39 PM
An elite ground game wouldn't fumble on possibly the weakest desperation strip attempt I've ever seen. An elite ground game scores on that play where the oline opens up a fucking canyon to run through.


And what's your point anyway? Or are you just trying to be annoying?
So just to be clear, you wouldn't consider the league's #2 rushing team to be elite?

pgardn
01-19-2015, 08:40 PM
It's pretty obvious that Seattle has a defense that Dallas can't match.
Thats half your team and game right there.

Imagine the Seattle offense with a Dallas defense.
That team is not in a SB. No way.

unleashbaynes
01-19-2015, 08:43 PM
So just to be clear, you wouldn't consider the league's #2 rushing team to be elite?

Looks good on paper, doesn't it? And then you get in the game, and your starting RB can't hold onto the fucking football and throws a wrench in the whole thing.

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 08:46 PM
:lmao

unleashbaynes
01-19-2015, 08:50 PM
^must have just watched the replay of Murray getting the ball blown out of his hand by the wind in the GB game. Yup, pretty comical.

spurraider21
01-19-2015, 08:50 PM
no its comical that somebody is actually trying to call the Cowboys run game this season anything but elite