How much of a threat are the Dubs

[SnakeBoy]

I've only watch the one game against the Spurs. Are they for real?

[Brunodf]

Yeah they are for real...But the Spurs have Kawhi/Green on the perimeter defense..

[sook]

no, if I had money on the game I'd bet spurs 9 times out of 10.

[100%duncan]

Spurs are gonna tap that ass

[BatManu20]

They're legit this year tbh.. Not saying they're going to win it all, but they're not just regular season fodder like they have been the past 3-4 years imo.

[Tuddy]

Run back to the 3 point line in transition and we'll be right.

[JohnnyMax]

If a team is a threat to the Spurs. Than they're a threat to OKC.

[Fireball]

They are a threat because they are in a position where Kerr also starts to rest players from time to time and get the to seed. Curry is also healthier than ever. A Warriors team that has homecourt is no fun to play against. I think they can get hot 4 out of 7 times.

[Spursfanfromafar]

If Bogut plays they are a major threat. Dude can throttle the Splitter-Duncan combo and force us to be a perimeter oriented team. I hope Danny Green is at his hot best in shooting on the day the Spurs meet the Warriors in the playoffs. They are much better in defense this year than the previous years and they have cut down on turnovers and improved their offense even better. They have got a decent bench as well. It would be a great WCF if its going to be the Spurs vs the Dubs. And even greater if its the Spurs vs the Hawks. I like the Spurs much more against the Hawks though as compared to the Warriors.

[Prime Time]

In my opinion, not much. If Spurs get them in the WCF over OKC or Dallas, then I'm throwing a party.

The post-season is a game of match ups. Luckily for us, Spurs match up well with almost every team in the league. Stick Green on Curry, put Leonard on Thompson, and suddenly they become a team of chuckers with minimal playoff experience.

[Raven]

not to the spurs.

[aal04]

They nearly beat us 2 years ago. And they played similar to the way they play now.

splash brothers went off against us and we weathered the storm and won a long hard battle.

I think the result will be the same. They win if the splash brothers can go off in 4 out of 7 games, which i dont think they can.

[Raven]

^ i doubt that's the game, kawhi and green will stop those two any day, what makes the difference is the frontcourt imo.

[exstatic]

They nearly beat us 2 years ago. And they played similar to the way they play now.

splash brothers went off against us and we weathered the storm and won a long hard battle.

I think the result will be the same. They win if the splash brothers can go off in 4 out of 7 games, which i dont think they can.

If they had played us one year later, we would have destroyed them. The 2014 team was SO much better than the 2013 team. Just look at the differences in the two Miami series.

[urunobili]

They're scary good.
These WC playoffs will be a grind of heart and ball movement to get past it.

[bklynspursfan]

significant threat to anyone but SA.

[hater]

if fully healthy I take the spurs without much thought tbh

[hater]

They're scary good.
These WC playoffs will be a grind of heart and ball movement to get past it.

agree. the only threat to the Spurs is health and a long grinding Western Conference campaign. they need to dispose of 1 or 2 teams with ease

[tmtcsc]

Puncher's chance against us.

[Dex]

Right now, they have everything clicking. Curry is playing at an MVP level. Thompson is playing great as well. Draymond Green is also having a stellar season.

Kerr has them moving the ball extremely well and playing tough defense. They have legitimate post threats and defenders in Bogut and Lee. Right now, they look really good.

It's still gonna come down to the same things that it has in recent years for GSW, though...Can Bogut and Lee stay healthy for the postseason, and can a team built around the 3 survive four rounds in the playoffs?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Them and a healthy/in-form Thunder team are probably the two biggest threats to a Spurs repeat.

[hater]

Them and a healthy/in-form Thunder team are probably the two biggest threats to a Spurs repeat.

I'll put Dallas ahead of both. Dallas coach knows the formula to beat the Spurs and they are possibly better than last year, no they are IMO better than last year.

Dallas - coach knows formula to beat Spurs
Grizz - they still believe they can beat us
OKC/GS

[ginobilized]

Warriors are playing so well so far, but, the playoffs are a long time from now. I doubt that they can sustain their current pace for 3 more months and then through the playoffs. Injuries, slump, rhythm are always factors.
How much better can they get? They are in peak form. Spurs and OKC are putting their pieces back together and will likely hit the end of the season on a strong run.
I also wonder if they are ripe to be knocked out in Round 1 by OKC, that's a tough matchup for Golden State.

Seeding will be a huge factor come April.

[Andthentherewas21]

Given they would probably have HC, they are probably the biggest threat to the Spurs with the usual caveat of health as a key factor for both teams. This Warriors team isn't the same one that the Spurs faced 2 years ago with the younger guys like Draymond Green starting to settle into their roles and become more consistent, Kerr has their offense humming and has maintained their defensive intensity, and Curry and Thompson have both maintained a high level of play about the time they each start to trail off each year. They are #1 in opponent fg%, and #3 in opponent 3pt% on defense so far this season (Spurs are 9th and 11th respectively).

On the flip side, the injuries to the Spurs have obviously hurt their continuity in play as indicated by the standings. They are starting to retake last year's form, but even if they reclaim it there is no guarantee they can reproduce what happened in Portland or the Finals last year. The Spurs that showed up for the first 6 games of the Dallas series were a beatable team. In a seven game series I would still give the Spurs a slight 60-40 edge given the defensive matchups the Spurs have on Curry and Thompson, but there series would probably be a lot closer than most people on here seem to think. (PS Just remember, Dick Jefferson isn't there to choke away clutch fts anymore)

[FromWayDowntown]

I think they're quite capable of winning the whole thing, if only because they aren't entirely dependent on their offense to win. They're undoubtedly explosive as an offensive group, but when Bogut plays, they've shown that they're capable of playing elite defense; they're particularly better on that end now that Green gets the bulk of the minutes over Lee. Their scoring differential to this point at least is almost +12, which is insane for even half a season of NBA basketball.

I think it would be foolish to think they're anything other than a significant threat to win the West. I do think the Spurs match up well with them, which gives the Spurs a great opportunity to stand in the way of the Warriors' championship aspirations. But that doesn't mean the Warriors aren't legitimate or that anyone should be surprised if Golden State rings this year.

ADDED: While the Spurs did beat them in the 2013 playoffs and have had a lot of success against the much improved GST over the last few years, I'd note that Bogut and Curry were both pretty banged up for most of that 2013 series, which certainly helped the Spurs in dealing with those problems. Just as the Spurs could have easily won that series in 5 games (had they closed Game 4 before falling in OT), the Warriors could have easily left San Antonio with 2 wins to open that series; the inexperience that helped the Spurs to rally in Game 1 isn't there any more for that team.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Spurs beat them off a B2B against them after playing the Clips the night before. Spurs match up with them well because of Kawhi and Green are such great perimeter defenders.

Spurs can beat GS even w/o HC advantage. It really comes down to are completely healthy or not. If they are, they can beat any team in the league w/o HC with the exception of OKC, IMO.

[FromWayDowntown]

It's absolutely true that there aren't many teams that can feel as confident walking into another team's building in a playoff game. The Spurs have significant, recent playoff wins (and, in some cases, multiple wins) on the road against everyone in the West -- Golden State (x2 in 2013), Memphis (x2 in 2013), Portland (2014), Dallas (2014), Clippers (x2 in 2012), and Oklahoma City (Game 6). They also managed 3-3 at Miami over the last 2 Finals, of course. Since the Leonard/Green revolution, the Spurs have played 11 playoff series and have won at least 1 road game in 10 of those (the only exception being 2012 against OKC).

If you just have to get one in the other guys' building, the Spurs have shown in the very recent past that they can do that.

[Brazil]

They deserve credit and respect like the Hawks but at the end of the day with Green / Leonard we match up pretty well with them so no need to be scared

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i agree with the idea of Green and Kawhi being the remedy for the splash brothers. but don't sleep on Draymond Green. He would be a tough assignment. Diaw? JaMichael? this would be a good time to have a season'd Jean-Charles to throw at him, but nooooo. maybe Ayers? Splitter? the spurs might want to take a look around the free agent market for a 3/4 defensive specialist. i think brandon davies woulda been another good player to have season'd by now.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i agree with the idea of Green and Kawhi being the remedy for the splash brothers. but don't sleep on Draymond Green. He would be a tough assignment. Diaw? JaMichael? this would be a good time to have a season'd Jean-Charles to throw at him, but nooooo. maybe Ayers? Splitter? the spurs might want to take a look around the free agent market for a 3/4 defensive specialist. i think brandon davies woulda been another good player to have season'd by now.

get Kyle Anderson some more pt. He needs to be able to defend.

[EVAY]

I take GS very seriously because they are now a complete, seasoned and (at the moment) healthy team being coached by a far superior coach than Mark Jackson.

As someone else mentioned, they were banged up seriously in 2013.

They are playing MUCH better defense than they used to play.

They have a coach in Kerr who knows how to defend the Spurs offensive sets as well or better than anyone not named Budenholzer or Brown.

They are the 'up and coming young stars' who will be the media and likely NBA PR team's darlings, and thus, the refs' preferences in questionable calls on their Home Court, which they will have.

I think it is possible that we beat them, and I HOPE that we beat them. But yeah, if they stay healthy, they are going to be the greatest threat in the west, imo. Yes, that means greater than OKC.

[DBMethos]

Warrior fans are very confident about this year's team, but you know they still don't want any part of San Antonio.

[DAF86]

They are for real. These aren't your no defense Phoenix Suns from the mid 2000's.

[RD2191]

Lol. GS is a joke. 2nd round exit.

[in2deep]

Spurs matchup well vs Warrior and Portland

not worried about them

Spurs matchup badly vs Houston and Dallas

[SnakeBoy]

Lol. GS is a joke. 2nd round exit.

This is what I thought. I figured they would come crashing down to earth by now but they're still rockin so I thought I'd ask since I don't watch them play.

[taps]

Bogut... can throttle the Splitter-Duncan combo.

I've never seen him do this

[therealtruth]

Leonard and Green will take care of Curry/Thompson. That will force their other guys to beat us which won't happen. That's how you win playoff series. You prevent the other team from playing their game.

[RD2191]

Leonard and Green will take care of Curry/Thompson. That will force their other guys to beat us which won't happen. That's how you win playoff series. You prevent the other team from playing their game.
Yup.

[Cane]

I hope Bogut stays healthy. Easy hacks

[Beaverfuzz]

Maybe a 15% threat. They're still vastly overrated.

[RD2191]

Beaver obviously ate a bowl of truth cereal for breakfast.

[Hoops Czar]

Maybe a 15% threat. They're still vastly overrated.

33-6 in a vastly superior and stacked western conference is being overrated? :lmao

[Beaverfuzz]

Leonard and Green will take care of Curry/Thompson. That will force their other guys to beat us which won't happen. That's how you win playoff series. You prevent the other team from playing their game.

Actually you just have to shut down Thompson and Seth will simply try to hero ball the game. We know how that works out. I'm actually more worried about Thompson playing hero ball than Seth, as Seth simply tires out on defense.

[Beaverfuzz]

33-6 in a vastly superior and stacked western conference is being overrated? :lmao

You do understand how playoff series work right? Let me know when there's a round-robin system in place for the playoffs.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

It's absolutely true that there aren't many teams that can feel as confident walking into another team's building in a playoff game. The Spurs have significant, recent playoff wins (and, in some cases, multiple wins) on the road against everyone in the West -- Golden State (x2 in 2013), Memphis (x2 in 2013), Portland (2014), Dallas (2014), Clippers (x2 in 2012), and Oklahoma City (Game 6). They also managed 3-3 at Miami over the last 2 Finals, of course. Since the Leonard/Green revolution, the Spurs have played 11 playoff series and have won at least 1 road game in 10 of those (the only exception being 2012 against OKC).

If you just have to get one in the other guys' building, the Spurs have shown in the very recent past that they can do that.

Not too long ago there was that window where the Spurs were mostly awful on the road in the playoffs from 2009-2011. Only big Spurs road victory during that era was Game 1 against Dallas in '10.

Obviously team has improved a lot since those days and I think the most impressive road victories of this era all came last year with Game 6 vs OKC, and Games 3 and 4 in Miami.

[alfahdlan]

In my opinion, not much. If Spurs get them in the WCF over OKC or Dallas, then I'm throwing a party.

The post-season is a game of match ups. Luckily for us, Spurs match up well with almost every team in the league. Stick Green on Curry, put Leonard on Thompson, and suddenly they become a team of chuckers with minimal playoff experience.

Who does parker guard harrison barnes?

[Hoops Czar]

You do understand how playoff series work right? Let me know when there's a round-robin system in place for the playoffs.


Sorry, I don't speak gibberish. I don't know what this is suppose to mean. If you're trying to say GSW hasn't proven they can win in the postseason, OKC was unproven, inexperienced and owned by the Spurs and couldn't win a big playoff series against a smart savvy veteran laden team in the postseason until they did. See: 2012 Oklahoma City Thunder. You're still stuck in 2013.

3rd in points in the paint
4th offensive efficiency
1st Effective fg%
1st true shooting %
1st in assists
4th assist/turnover ratio
2nd in assists per fg (Atlanta #1)
1st opponents shooting %
1st opp. effective fg%
3rd opp. 3-point fg%
1st opp. true shooting %

All of this with a rookie head coach and an ineffective, injury-plagued big man.


Overrated! :lmao

[ElNono]

OKC also folded like a cheap lawn chair in the Finals... Right now I have the Dubs ceiling at WCF...

The playoffs are all about matchups. There's little you can draw from the regular season outside of who's a good/bad team.

[Hoops Czar]

OKC also folded like a cheap lawn chair in the Finals... Right now I have the Dubs ceiling at WCF...

The playoffs are all about matchups. There's little you can draw from the regular season outside of who's a good/bad team.

Yeah, the Spurs folded like a cheap lawn chair in the WCF's But, I have to ask, did you actually watch the Finals in 2012? The no call on Durant by Lebron in the closing seconds of game 2 completely flipped that series around. With the exception of game 5, all the games were close.

[ElNono]

Yeah, the Spurs folded like a cheap lawn chair in the WCF's But, I have to ask, did you actually watch the Finals in 2012? The no call on Durant by Lebron in the closing seconds of game 2 completely flipped that series around. With the exception of game 5, all the games were close.

But, we didn't. It was a closely contested 6 game series. The Finals was a gentleman's sweep. No 5 game series is decided in one play. It's ridiculous.

The Spurs, similarly, didn't lose the WCF in one play.

[Hoops Czar]

But, we didn't. It was a closely contested 6 game series. The Finals was a gentleman's sweep. No 5 game series is decided in one play. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, coming into game 3 of the WCF's with a 22 game win streak and getting backdoor swept is folding like a cheap lawn chair. Not much of a difference between a 5 or 6 game series. The Finals was closely contested too and it wasn't decided in one play. However, the NBA Finals in 2012 was under the 2-3-2 format. If OKC takes game two, they're guaranteed a return trip to OKC where they were nearly unbeatable in the postseason. One play CAN turn a series around. Granted, OKC had other opportunities in the series but, you could say the same about any losing team in the history of the NBA. Had "this" or "that" happened, the outcome might have been different.

[Beaverfuzz]

Sorry, I don't speak gibberish. I don't know what this is suppose to mean. If you're trying to say GSW hasn't proven they can win in the postseason, OKC was unproven, inexperienced and owned by the Spurs and couldn't win a big playoff series against a smart savvy veteran laden team in the postseason until they did. See: 2012 Oklahoma City Thunder. You're still stuck in 2013.

3rd in points in the paint
4th offensive efficiency
1st Effective fg%
1st true shooting %
1st in assists
4th assist/turnover ratio
2nd in assists per fg (Atlanta #1)
1st opponents shooting %
1st opp. effective fg%
3rd opp. 3-point fg%
1st opp. true shooting %

All of this with a rookie head coach and an ineffective, injury-plagued big man.


Overrated! :lmao


Jesus, pick a stance on GSW and stick with it! I'm not saying that GSW hasn't proven they can win in the post-season. Please download Hooked on Phonics, listen to it, practice it, master it, and then get back with us.

[Beaverfuzz]

OKC also folded like a cheap lawn chair in the Finals... Right now I have the Dubs ceiling at WCF...

The playoffs are all about matchups. There's little you can draw from the regular season outside of who's a good/bad team.


NOOOOOOO, playoffs are all about matchups?

[Beaverfuzz]

Yeah, coming into game 3 of the WCF's with a 22 game win streak and getting backdoor swept is folding like a cheap lawn chair. Not much of a difference between a 5 or 6 game series. The Finals was closely contested too and it wasn't decided in one play. However, the NBA Finals in 2012 was under the 2-3-2 format. If OKC takes game two, they're guaranteed a return trip to OKC where they were nearly unbeatable in the postseason. One play CAN turn a series around. Granted, OKC had other opportunities in the series but, you could say the same about any losing team in the history of the NBA. Had "this" or "that" happened, the outcome might have been different.

You're acting like the 2-3-2 was brand new for that series. Head back to pre-school please, do not pass Go! Do not collect $200.

[ElNono]

Yeah, coming into game 3 of the WCF's with a 22 game win streak and getting backdoor swept is folding like a cheap lawn chair. Not much of a difference between a 5 or 6 game series. The Finals was closely contested too and it wasn't decided in one play. However, the NBA Finals in 2012 was under the 2-3-2 format. If OKC takes game two, they're guaranteed a return trip to OKC where they were nearly unbeatable in the postseason. One play CAN turn a series around. Granted, OKC had other opportunities in the series but, you could say the same about any losing team in the history of the NBA. Had "this" or "that" happened, the outcome might have been different.

They lost in 5 games... it was not really competitive, period. Coulda, shoulda, woulda doesn't work. If the Spurs win game 5 at home in the WCF, maybe they're in the Finals. If Abaka doesn't shoot 12-12, maybe the Spurs are in the Finals, etc. Playing that game is too easy, but makes no sense.

Any of the top 3-4 teams in each conference can beat each other. But, there's certainly some teams more likely than others to win certain series (due to matchups).

I feel, from what I've seen so far, that GSW's ceiling is WCF, simply because I have 3 other teams that can realistically reach that stage: Spurs, OKC and Memphis. And I think any of those 3 can beat the Dubs. I could be wrong.

[pgardn]

GS has one home loss?

Wonder who beat them?

[itzsoweezee]

They're playing historically well and have a stacked lineup. I don't know how anyone could consider them anything other than a serious threat.

[Hoops Czar]

Jesus, pick a stance on GSW and stick with it! I'm not saying that GSW hasn't proven they can win in the post-season. Please download Hooked on Phonics, listen to it, practice it, master it, and then get back with us.


I don't need hooked on phonic, I need algebraic code. You've quoted me three times and I still don't know what you're talking about. The NBA isn't a round robin tournament. Thanks for sharing. You're the one calling GS overrated which every statistical measure proves otherwise, and that's your reply? They'll be overrated when they flame out in the playoffs but, using a mark Jackson coached 2013
squad with it's best player playing on a bum ankle and comparing it to this year's squad is pretty absurd.

[apalisoc_9]

GSW is not overrated but they are not beating the spurs..

Thank God Hoops thinks highly of them..that's a good sign.

Hoops czar has never made a right prediction in his whole Spurtalk career....so really good sign. :lol

[ElNono]

They're absolutely better than last season. There's no way they could've sniffed the WCF last season.

[pgardn]

They're playing historically well and have a stacked lineup. I don't know how anyone could consider them anything other than a serious threat.

What is a serious threat?

Vegas future odds 9/2... the favorite.
No way I take that.
Dallas 12-1
Memphis 12-1

Spurs now at 13/2 took a rise with the return of Leonard methinks.

To win the west.

[Hoops Czar]

They lost in 5 games... it was not really competitive, period. Coulda, shoulda, woulda doesn't work. If the Spurs win game 5 at home in the WCF, maybe they're in the Finals. If Abaka doesn't shoot 12-12, maybe the Spurs are in the Finals, etc. Playing that game is too easy, but makes no sense.

Any of the top 3-4 teams in each conference can beat each other. But, there's certainly some teams more likely than others to win certain series (due to matchups).

I feel, from what I've seen so far, that GSW's ceiling is WCF, simply because I have 3 other teams that can realistically reach that stage: Spurs, OKC and Memphis. And I think any of those 3 can beat the Dubs. I could be wrong.

So, you didn't watch the series.

Game 1: W by 11
Game 2: L by 4
Game 3: L by 6
Game 4: L by 6

There are posters here who thought the 2008 WCF's was competitive too. Do you want to break it to them?


Well, a clear foul is a clear foul, not called. Allowing a guy to shoot 11-11 because your failed defensive philosophy is to let Ibaka shoot wide open jump shots isn't. However, that's not my point. I was merely showing the competitiveness of the series. I'm reserving final judgement on GS when the playoffs arrive. However, a team, playing in a stacked WC starts off 33-6 and leads in most of the important offensive and defensive categories is hardly overrated even if they fall short in the playoffs. There can only be one winner. That doesn't make the rest of the league overrated. Even if GS reaches the WCF's, that's still pretty impressive with a first year head coach.

[Hoops Czar]

GSW is not overrated but they are not beating the spurs..

Thank God Hoops thinks highly of them..that's a good sign.

Hoops czar has never made a right prediction in his whole Spurtalk career....so really good sign. :lol

You said it! Did you know I was just going to come here to post the same thing and you beat me to it. Damn, you're fast.

[Beaverfuzz]

The NBA isn't a round robin tournament.


The regular season is, the post-season most definitely is not. Back to the kiddie pool Czar, you need your floaties.

[Beaverfuzz]

I'm reserving final judgement on GS when the playoffs arrive.


So why are you whining like a little girl when someone disagrees with you, you Nancy?

[Hoops Czar]

The regular season is, the post-season most definitely is not. Back to the kiddie pool Czar, you need your floaties.

The regular season isn't a tournament at all. That's four times you replied to me and I still have no idea what you're talking about.

[ElNono]

So, you didn't watch the series.

Game 1: W by 11
Game 2: L by 4
Game 3: L by 6
Game 4: L by 6

There are posters here who thought the 2008 WCF's was competitive too. Do you want to break it to them?

I watched the series. It wasn't competitive. Harden shit the bed. Abaka was poor aswell. Bad matchup, it happens.


Well, a clear foul is a clear foul, not called. Allowing a guy to shoot 11-11 because your failed defensive philosophy is to let Ibaka shoot wide open jump shots isn't. However, that's not my point. I was merely showing the competitiveness of the series. I'm reserving final judgement on GS when the playoffs arrive. However, a team, playing in a stacked WC starts off 33-6 and leads in most of the important offensive and defensive categories is hardly overrated even if they fall short in the playoffs. There can only be one winner. That doesn't make the rest of the league overrated. Even if GS reaches the WCF's, that's still pretty impressive with a first year head coach.

Well, we all are. I'm speaking at this point in time with what I've seen so far, and considering the scenario that I think it's more likely (that they'll face the Spurs/OKC/Memphis). Any/all of that could change.

And I could certainly be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

I mean, Atlanta has a great record too, and that includes a lot of wins against West opponents. Are they a serious treat too? I don't think they are, tbh...

[Hoops Czar]

So why are you whining like a little girl when someone disagrees with you, you Nancy?



"However, a team, playing in a stacked WC starts off 33-6 and leads in most of the important offensive and defensive categories is hardly overrated even if they fall short in the playoffs. There can only be one winner. That doesn't make the rest of the league overrated."

[ViceCity86]

Can they beat the Thunder in 1st round?

Likely matchup

[ducks]

Tp

[Hoops Czar]

I watched the series. It wasn't competitive. Harden shit the bed. Abaka was poor aswell. Bad matchup, it happens.

I watched the Spurs (particularly Parker) shit the bed vs OKC in the latter half of the series, particularly the all important, must win game 5.. Lebron shit the bed in 2010 vs the Mavs but, the series was still competitive. You and I have a different interpretation of the word competitive. If (cliche disclaimer engaged) Harden doesn't shit the bed, OKC probably wins.




Well, we all are. I'm speaking at this point in time with what I've seen so far, and considering the scenario that I think it's more likely (that they'll face the Spurs/OKC/Memphis). Any/all of that could change.

And I could certainly be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

I mean, Atlanta has a great record too, and that includes a lot of wins against West opponents. Are they a serious treat too? I don't think they are, tbh...

Oh, come on Nono, don't be so modest. Speaking of Atlanta, they are playing in a historically weak EC. They're one of three team that could easily come out of the East but, they wouldn't stand much of a chance in a seven games series vs west opponents. Their defense would be good enough to keep them in games but, the offense isn't good enough for them to win many games. Got to admire the job coach Bud has done this year. They are massively overachieving.

[ElNono]

I watched the Spurs (particularly Parker) shit the bed vs OKC in the latter half of the series, particularly the all important, must win game 5.. Lebron shit the bed in 2010 vs the Mavs but, the series was still competitive. You and I have a different interpretation of the word competitive. If (cliche disclaimer engaged) Harden doesn't shit the bed, OKC probably wins.

I think over a 7 game series, the best team almost always wins (the only time I would make an exception would be the 2013 Finals, which was way, way too close for comfort). It applies when the Spurs have lost series too. I think in that series, Harden screwed up but Miami also did what they needed to do to slow him down.


Oh, come on Nono, don't be so modest. Speaking of Atlanta, they are playing in a historically weak EC. They're one of three team that could easily come out of the East but, they wouldn't stand much of a chance in a seven games series vs west opponents. Their defense would be good enough to keep them in games but, the offense isn't good enough for them to win many games. Got to admire the job coach Bud has done this year. They are massively overachieving.

IIRC, they're like 14-2 against the West overall, and without looking, I suspect they have a pretty good record against the West playoff teams. But I agree they probably have no shot against the likely teams that could come out of the West (except maybe Memphis).

[Beaverfuzz]

The regular season isn't a tournament at all. That's four times you replied to me and I still have no idea what you're talking about.

It's not a tournament? It's just for shits and giggles?

[Beaverfuzz]

"However, a team, playing in a stacked WC starts off 33-6 and leads in most of the important offensive and defensive categories is hardly overrated even if they fall short in the playoffs. There can only be one winner. That doesn't make the rest of the league overrated."

So the Spurs who lost to Memphis in the first round (1/8) were one of the best teams ever?

[Beaverfuzz]

Can they beat the Thunder in 1st round?

Likely matchup


Probably not, but even if they do flame out in the first round...they're still one of the best teams around, Hoops Czar told me so!

[Hoops Czar]

So the Spurs who lost to Memphis in the first round (1/8) were one of the best teams ever?

I was on record as saying they were highly overrated. The majority of their big wins that year came when key players for the other teams were out. They weren't that impressive at all. I still think they would have beaten Memphis if Ginobili was healthy enough to play in Game one and the monumental final minute collapse didn't take place. I'm not really sure how you can compare that Spurs team to this Warriors team though.

[therealtruth]

Who does parker guard harrison barnes?

Yes. That's how we beat them last time.

[therealtruth]

Not too long ago there was that window where the Spurs were mostly awful on the road in the playoffs from 2009-2011. Only big Spurs road victory during that era was Game 1 against Dallas in '10.

Obviously team has improved a lot since those days and I think the most impressive road victories of this era all came last year with Game 6 vs OKC, and Games 3 and 4 in Miami.

I think that was game 2 against Dallas in '10. Pop called them out for being dogs in game 1 then they won game 2.

Anyway we also swept games 3-4 against the Clips in '12. The key for us being able to win on the road in the playoffs again was improving our defense. Before (with the exception of that Dallas series where we defended pretty well) we would simply try to outscore an opponent which isn't going to work on the road.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I think that was game 2 against Dallas in '10. Pop called them out for being dogs in game 1 then they won game 2.

Anyway we also swept games 3-4 against the Clips in '12. The key for us being able to win on the road in the playoffs again was improving our defense. Before (with the exception of that Dallas series where we defended pretty well) we would simply try to outscore an opponent which isn't going to work on the road.

Oh man how could I forget. Jefferson was huge for the Spurs that game (and on the court as well)

[Beaverfuzz]

I was on record as saying they were highly overrated. The majority of their big wins that year came when key players for the other teams were out. They weren't that impressive at all. I still think they would have beaten Memphis if Ginobili was healthy enough to play in Game one and the monumental final minute collapse didn't take place. I'm not really sure how you can compare that Spurs team to this Warriors team though.

So you really have no basis for your Spurs hatred, nor your Golden State skin flute sucking-fest. Ok

[100%duncan]

GS has one home loss?

Wonder who beat them?

:bobo

[100%duncan]

So you really have no basis for your Spurs hatred, nor your Golden State skin flute sucking-fest. Ok

Hoops is up there with the elite of spurstalk posters.


In terms of retardation and butthurt.


Hey faggot, why would we be stuck in 2013 when 2014 happened? :lmao Poops :lmao

[Venti Quattro]

Only a playoff series can tell. But right now the Warriors are head and shoulders above the Spurs

[Mel_13]

Only a playoff series can tell. But right now the Warriors are head and shoulders above the Spurs

They're head and shoulders above the entire league up to this point in the season, but that franchise has won one playoff series in the last 7 years and two series in the last two decades. The burden of proof is on them to show that they can win multiple series in row.

[Beaverfuzz]

Only a playoff series can tell. But right now the Warriors are head and shoulders above the Spurs

I'd take a healthy Spurs team over a healthy Warriors team every day of the week.

[look_at_g_shred]

Only a playoff series can tell. But right now the Warriors are head and shoulders above the Spurs
Jumpshots take you so far in the playoffs. How has anyone not realized this yet?

[Venti Quattro]

Jumpshots take you so far in the playoffs. How has anyone not realized this yet?

Wait, so jump shots did not take the Spurs to two straight Finals?

[look_at_g_shred]

Wait, so jump shots did not take the Spurs to two straight Finals?
Spurs are so versatile. We don't rely just on jumpers.

[Venti Quattro]

Spurs are so versatile. We don't rely just on jumpers.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

So when it's the Spurs shooting jumpshots, it's "versatile" while when it's other teams it's "chucking" and a "recipe for disaster"?

Okay, whatever you say bruh

[look_at_g_shred]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

So when it's the Spurs shooting jumpshots, it's "versatile" while when it's other teams it's "chucking" and a "recipe for disaster"?

Okay, whatever you say bruh
When I say versatile that's what I mean. What other threats do the Warriors have besides getting hot from the arc?? The Spurs can throw it down low to a number of guys duncan/splitter/diaw/leonard. Parker/manu penetration. Oh yeah we can shoot the 3 too! We don't just rely on the 3, and times where we do fall in love with the 3 and are not hitting, were probably losing.

[Fireball]

Everybody is saying we have Danny and Kawhi guarding the Splash Brothers ... but after a bad year 2 Harrison Barnes is back and he could definitely light up TP again like he did two seasons ago in the first round.