View Full Version : Cavs: Olajuwon: "Jordan Was a Far More Superior Player" to Lebron
BatManu20
01-25-2015, 01:26 PM
The Dream has spoken.
It's one of the big sporting questions of our times debated in bars across the world: Is LeBron James better than Michael Jordan?
Now a two-time NBA champion has waded into the debate and dubbed Jordan a "far superior player".
"When people start comparing him with Jordan then that's not a fair comparison. Jordan was a far more superior player in a very tough league, he was very creative," former Houston Rockets star Hakeem Olajuwon told CNBC's Worldwide Exchange.
"That's not taking away anything from LeBron because he is a great player but it is not a fair comparison because Jordan is a far superior player."
Jordan, who made his name at the Chicago Bulls, is a six time NBA champion and has been crowned most valuable player (MVP) five times. In comparison, James, who plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers, is a two-time NBA champion and has four MVP awards to his name.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102340266
apalisoc_9
01-25-2015, 01:35 PM
Olajuwon and Jordan have been sucking each other penises ever since they retired..
I'm not surprised with this comment..
Phillip
01-25-2015, 01:36 PM
who cares
people from the 50s and 60s think Bill Russell is far superior to Shaq, Tim Duncan, and Hakeem :lmao
people are always going to stick up for players from their own era
LkrFan
01-25-2015, 01:51 PM
Well, he's right.
djohn2oo8
01-25-2015, 01:55 PM
Olajuwon and Jordan have been sucking each other penises ever since they retired..
I'm not surprised with this comment..
Sup Hawlem..
weebo
01-25-2015, 02:53 PM
Chamberlain was the best player of his generation, Jordan best player of his generation, Duncan best player of his generation, etc....
Infinite_limit
01-25-2015, 02:59 PM
Chamberlain was the best player of his generation, Jordan best player of his generation, Duncan best player of his generation, etc....
Not quite
Wilt - most unstoppable but not most successful [Russell]
Jordan - unstoppable and successful
Duncan - most successful but not most unstoppable [Shaq]
Thus the gap between Jordan and the next best player is substantial. Possibly even larger than Gretzky in Hockey because of Jordan's defense
- Jordan
- Gretzky
- Babe Ruth
NFL and Soccer has too many candidates
Stalin
01-25-2015, 03:30 PM
That's a fair statement, I too find LeRoid's game boring, all he does is bulldoze through the lane, with little creativity or finesse, unlike Dad Killer, IMO TBH.
RsxPiimp
01-25-2015, 03:40 PM
who cares
people from the 50s and 60s think Bill Russell is far superior to Shaq, Tim Duncan, and Hakeem :lmao
people are always going to stick up for players from their own era
Yeah. Dr. J doesn't even have Jordan in his top list.
Infinite_limit
01-25-2015, 03:44 PM
Yeah. Dr. J doesn't even have Jordan in his top list.
Really? Damn that's butthurt
It's one thing to have a guy who played 20-30 years prior off your list. But J and MJ's eras almost overlapped.
RsxPiimp
01-25-2015, 03:51 PM
Really? Damn that's butthurt
It's one thing to have a guy who played 20-30 years prior off your list. But J and MJ's eras almost overlapped.
Wilt
Russell
Baylor
Robertson
West
His top 5
hater
01-25-2015, 04:13 PM
No shit
Wh is this even threadworthy?
Infinite_limit
01-25-2015, 04:22 PM
Wilt
Russell
Baylor
Robertson
West
His top 5
Can't crucify the guy for taking the "only guys before me" route but I wouldn't take his list seriously
Arcadian
01-25-2015, 04:30 PM
Can't crucify the guy for taking the "only guys before me" route but I wouldn't take his list seriously
Given that athletes are getting better over time, and given that he didn't specify "only guys before me," yes you can definitely crucify him. What a shitty approach to making a list. It would make more sense to say "only guys I've seen play" because at least then you have a clear mental representation of those players.
Infinite_limit
01-25-2015, 04:33 PM
Given that athletes are getting better over time, and given that he didn't specify "only guys before me," yes you can definitely crucify him. What a shitty approach to making a list. It would make more sense to say "only guys I've seen play" because at least then you have a clear mental representation of those players.
Good points. He should have went "before me" route otherwise he'd have to put Larry on the list
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/49974/1408622-bird_vs_j.jpg
RsxPiimp
01-25-2015, 04:46 PM
Good points. He should have went "before me" route otherwise he'd have to put Larry on the list
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/49974/1408622-bird_vs_j.jpg
Initially he said these are the player he saw growing up. But then, he was asked to clarify and he did. He was asked if all modern players were to be included and he stick with his picks.
He also said George Gervin is that one player he would pay to see...
Retired guys always defend each other, always say their league was the toughest. James is no Michael, not even close. He doesn't have the on court demeanor, doesn't threaten with a look, doesn't deliver after telling you he's going to. Jordan issued tracking numbers and you'd know he would show up. James is a genetic freak, average shooter, athletic as fuck, and great passer. Jordan could do it all though, he was like prime Kobe's demeanor with Leonard's hands and James' athleticism.
AaronY
01-25-2015, 07:39 PM
Truth bomb
in2deep
01-25-2015, 07:40 PM
Hakeem dropping them nukes
Franklin
01-25-2015, 07:44 PM
Jordan would've never left his friends behind for the greener lawn, which Lebron has done twice already and is likely to try a 3rd time next year.
LkrFan
01-25-2015, 08:13 PM
Retired guys always defend each other, always say their league was the toughest. James is no Michael, not even close. He doesn't have the on court demeanor, doesn't threaten with a look, doesn't deliver after telling you he's going to. Jordan issued tracking numbers and you'd know he would show up. James is a genetic freak, average shooter, athletic as fuck, and great passer. Jordan could do it all though, he was like prime Kobe's demeanor with Leonard's hands and James' athleticism.
What is Leonard's true ceiling in your opinion?
lefty
01-25-2015, 08:15 PM
Still truth nukes
What is Leonard's true ceiling in your opinion?
I have no idea, we may have seen it already.
HemisfairArena
01-25-2015, 10:59 PM
MJ is the best ever and had he not gambled,,,would have won 8 in a row. The Dream just being respectful that he was able to ring while Jordan "retired" for two years.
Malik Hairston
01-25-2015, 11:05 PM
Hakeem also said Dwight Howard was going to have an MVP season this year, to be fair:lol..
If Olajuwon wants to comment on his pedophilia, I'll listen, since that's his most credible field, tbh..
Jenks
01-25-2015, 11:34 PM
"Lebron didn't gift me two championships"
baseline bum
01-25-2015, 11:41 PM
If Olajuwon wants to comment on his pedophilia, I'll listen, since that's his most credible field, tbh..
He pulled a Karl Malone?
Malik Hairston
01-25-2015, 11:42 PM
He pulled a Karl Malone?
When he was 33, he married an 18-year old that was chosen before she was legal age, tbh:lol..
:lmao those Rocket Cs
:lmao Hakeem mentoring Howard
:lmao Somebody check Yao Ming's history with women
Splits
01-26-2015, 01:16 AM
When he was 33, he married an 18-year old that was chosen before she was legal age, tbh:lol..
:lmao those Rocket Cs
:lmao Hakeem mentoring Howard
:lmao Somebody check Yao Ming's history with women
Maybe that's why Hakeem went to the Raptors, age of consent in Canada is 16 (as I'm sure you know first-hand)
Malik Hairston
01-26-2015, 01:40 AM
Maybe that's why Hakeem went to the Raptors, age of consent in Canada is 16 (as I'm sure you know first-hand)
My minimum age is 19, tbh(I'm 25)..if it's borderline, I just wouldn't ask her age, though..
daslicer
01-26-2015, 01:42 AM
Hakeem's wife definitely looks real young in this picture :lol
http://www.sikids.com/sites/default/files/multimedia/photo_gallery/1105/athletes-and-their-mothers/images/hakeem-olajuwon-mom-abike-075148725.jpg
way to go out on a limb there :lol
LkrFan
01-26-2015, 12:02 PM
My minimum age is 19, tbh(I'm 25)..if it's borderline, I just wouldn't ask her age, though..
:lmao
ambchang
01-26-2015, 12:11 PM
Hakeem speaking the truth, and there is no question Jordan played in an era where the rules favoured bigs, whereas Lebron is playing in the most perimeter friendly era of the NBA.
Galileo
01-26-2015, 03:55 PM
I always thought Olajuwon was better than Jordan.
Proxy
01-26-2015, 06:40 PM
http://i.minus.com/ibnpWpIjTD7fdu.gif
RsxPiimp
01-26-2015, 07:02 PM
When he was 33, he married an 18-year old that was chosen before she was legal age, tbh:lol..
:lmao those Rocket Cs
:lmao Hakeem mentoring Howard
:lmao Somebody check Yao Ming's history with women
This for real? Holy shit :lol
The Gemini Method
01-26-2015, 07:16 PM
Maybe that's why Hakeem went to the Raptors, age of consent in Canada is 16 (as I'm sure you know first-hand)
Lefty sure does...
Infinite_limit
01-27-2015, 12:58 AM
"Leonard would have shut him down"
endrity
01-27-2015, 03:38 AM
I always believed that Jordan's main advantage over anyone who will appear later on and challenge his GOAT status is his storyline. Yes his stats are great, even advanced stats. But LBJ has shown he can match that at times.
The problem is Jordan's storyline is perfect. The young player struggling to beat the top teams of his generation, who had to get better and better as his team was doing the same. He finally breaks through and then he never stopped winning anymore. In a way I think his two year pause was great for him and the Bulls, because there was no way he'd have won 8 in a row.
By winning almost 6 in a row and then retiring, Jordan created an aura of almost complete invincibility around himself. History says that once Jordan figured it out, he never lost again until he retired. And while this required the good fortune of plenty of other circumstances, it will be almost impossible for any player to recreate a similar storyline. LeBron's already lost 3 finals, one in which he was heavily favorite and he pretty much didn't show up (2011) and one in which while the teams were thought to be somewhat equal they were completeley dismantled (2014). Those blemishes don't exist in Jordan's record. LeBron would have to win a threepeat with the Cavs or something like that to recreate a storyline to rival Jordan's I think.
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