Royal Rumble

[Red Hawk #21]

Anybody watching this?

[Red Hawk #21]

A Bubba Ray Dudley Sighting!

[DJR210]

Only in Philadelphia

[elmanutres]

A Bubba Ray Dudley Sighting!

At least he can finally be called bubba ray once again. at least in the wwe ring. He had to become bully ray outside the wwe for legal reasons.

[Red Hawk #21]

The Rock sighting!

[Red Hawk #21]

It was cool watching wrestling again but I didn't know who half the people were tbh...Cool seeing the Rock, DDP and Bubba Ray though...

[DMC]

I don't watch fake fighting. If you think about what they are doing, you wouldn't either.

[Avante]

I don't watch fake fighting. If you think about what they are doing, you wouldn't either.

But you watch fake movies right?

[Avante]

Imagine this 40 man BATTLE ROYAL.

Ring 1

Brock Lesner
Kevin Nash
"Nature Boy" Ric Flair
The Roadwarriors
Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorf
Ahmad Johnson
"Ravishing" Rick Rude
Michael Hayes
Lex Luger
Nikita Koloff
Arn Anderson
Dusty Rhodes
Randy Orton
Razor Ramon
The Ultimate Warrior
Chris Jericho
The Rock
Eddie Guerrero
The Big Show

Ring 2

Goldberg
Bret "Hitman" Hart
Edge
John Cena
Batista
Shawn Michaels
Hulk Hogan
Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig
Stonecold Steve Austin
The Undertaker
Triple H
Big Van Vadar
King Kong Bundy
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper
Andre the Giant
Big John Studd
Roman Reigns
Chris Benoit
Kerry Von Erich
Tully Blanchard

Obviously the winner of each ring meets in the final.

How about ...The Legends 20 Man BATTLE ROYAL?

Bruno Sammartino
Lou Thesz
Hulk Hogan
Fred Blassie
"Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers
Killer Kowalski
"Superstar" Billy Graham
Dick the Brusier
Verne Gagne
Dusty Rhodes
Antonio Rocca
"Nature Boy" Ric Flair
Edouard Carpentier
The Sheik
Andre the Giant
Ray Stevens
Crusher Lisowski
Fritz Von Erich
The Destroyer
Sholhi "Giant" Baba

BATTLE ROYAL in Harlem

Bobo Brazil
Rufus R. Jones
Thunderbolt Patterson
Mark Henry
Bearcat Wright
Dory Dixon
Sailor Art Thomas
Earl "Mr.Universe" Maynard
Brickhouse Brown
Booker T
Ron Simmons
Rocky Johnson
Ahmad Johnson
Sweet Daddy Siki
Tony "Mr. USA" Atlas
Iceman King Parsons
Shaska Whatley
Big E. Langston
Koko B. Ware
Junkyard Dog

BATTLE ROYAL in Mexico City

Konnan
Enrique Torres
Ramon Torres
Alberto Tottes
Gory Guerrero
Chavo Guerrero
Hector Guerrero
Mondo Guerrero
Eddie Guerrero
Cyclone Negro
Torbellino Blanco
Pepper Gomes
Jose Lothario
El Santo
Mil Mascaras
Luis Martineze
Goliath
Blackie Gordman
Hercules Cortez
Tito Santana

The Football/Rassler BATTLE ROYAL

Leo "The Lion" Nomellini...Niners
Big Van Vader...Rams
Goldberg...Falcons
Wahoo McDaneil..Jets
Dick the Brusier...Packers
Dusty Rhodes... West Texas State
Ron Simmons....FSU
Junkyard Dog...Packers
Bronco Nagurski...Bears
Fritz Von Erich....Oilers
Ernie Ladd...Chargers
Don Manoukian...Raiders
Brian Pillman...Bengals
Tully Blanchard...West Texas State
Brusier Brody...West Texas State
Stan "Lariat" Hansen...West Texas State
Danny Spivey...Falcons
The Rock...Miami
Dory Funk Jr...West Texas State
Terry Funk...West Texas State

LA Olympic Auditorium BATTLE ROYAL

Mr. Moto
Judo Gene LaBell
Hard Boiled Haggarty
Baron Leoni
Freddie Blassie
Sandor Szabo
"Dangerous" Danny McShane
Count Billy Varga
Lou Thesz
"Wild" Red Berry
Bobo Brazil
Haystacks Calhoun
Lord Layton
The Destroyer
Gorgeous George
Edouard Carpentier
Rikidozan
Don Leo Jonathan
Ricki Starr
Wilbur Snyder



The...Wild Kingdom...BATTLE ROYAL

"Wild" Bull Curry
Mad Dog Vachon
Moose Cholak
King Kong Bundy
Bulldog Brower
Gorilla Monsoon
Moondog Mayne
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Roadwarrior Animal
Roadwarrior Hawk
Bulldog Bob Brown
Bull Ramos
Billy White Wolf
The Elephant Boy
Bearcat Wright
Don Eagle
King Kong Mosca
Tarzan Tyler
The Killer Bee's
Ox Baker

The...Who was that masked man?...BATTLE ROYAL

El Santo
Torbellino Blanco
Sin Cara
Rey Misterio
Mil Mascaras
The Destroyer
The Super Destroyer
The Assasins
The Bolos
The Medics
The Interns
The Executioneers
Dr X
Justin "Thunder" Liger
The Cheetah Kid

The..Strong Man...BATTLE ROYAL

Jeep Swenson
Bill Kazmeir
Ted Arcidi
Dino Bravo
The Warlord
Hercules Hernandez
The Roadwarriors
The Barbarian
Yukon Erich
Mark Henry
Big E. Langston
Goldberg
Batista
Hercules Cortez
Sailor Art Thomas
Scott Steiner
Ivan Putski
The Great Antonio
Bruno Sammartino

[DJR210]

Imagine this 40 man BATTLE ROYAL.

Ring 1

Brock Lesner
Kevin Nash
"Nature Boy" Ric Flair
The Roadwarriors
Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorf
Ahmad Johnson
"Ravishing" Rick Rude
Michael Hayes
Lex Luger
Nikita Koloff
Arn Anderson
Dusty Rhodes
Randy Orton
Razor Ramon
The Ultimate Warrior
Chris Jericho
The Rock
Eddie Guerrero
The Big Show

Ring 2

Goldberg
Bret "Hitman" Hart
Edge
John Cena
Batista
Shawn Michaels
Hulk Hogan
Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig
Stonecold Steve Austin
The Undertaker
Triple H
Big Van Vadar
King Kong Bundy
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper
Andre the Giant
Big John Studd
Roman Reigns
Chris Benoit
Kerry Von Erich
Tully Blanchard

Obviously the winner of each ring meets in the final.

How about ...The Legends 20 Man BATTLE ROYAL?

Bruno Sammartino
Lou Thesz
Hulk Hogan
Fred Blassie
"Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers
Killer Kowalski
"Superstar" Billy Graham
Dick the Brusier
Verne Gagne
Dusty Rhodes
Antonio Rocca
"Nature Boy" Ric Flair
Edouard Carpentier
The Sheik
Andre the Giant
Ray Stevens
Crusher Lisowski
Fritz Von Erich
The Destroyer
Sholhi "Giant" Baba

BATTLE ROYAL in Harlem

Bobo Brazil
Rufus R. Jones
Thunderbolt Patterson
Mark Henry
Bearcat Wright
Dory Dixon
Sailor Art Thomas
Earl "Mr.Universe" Maynard
Brickhouse Brown
Booker T
Ron Simmons
Rocky Johnson
Ahmad Johnson
Sweet Daddy Siki
Tony "Mr. USA" Atlas
Iceman King Parsons
Shaska Whatley
Big E. Langston
Koko B. Ware
Junkyard Dog

BATTLE ROYAL in Mexico City

Konnan
Enrique Torres
Ramon Torres
Alberto Tottes
Gory Guerrero
Chavo Guerrero
Hector Guerrero
Mondo Guerrero
Eddie Guerrero
Cyclone Negro
Torbellino Blanco
Pepper Gomes
Jose Lothario
El Santo
Mil Mascaras
Luis Martineze
Goliath
Blackie Gordman
Hercules Cortez
Tito Santana

The Football/Rassler BATTLE ROYAL

Leo "The Lion" Nomellini...Niners
Big Van Vader...Rams
Goldberg...Falcons
Wahoo McDaneil..Jets
Dick the Brusier...Packers
Dusty Rhodes... West Texas State
Ron Simmons....FSU
Junkyard Dog...Packers
Bronco Nagurski...Bears
Fritz Von Erich....Oilers
Ernie Ladd...Chargers
Don Manoukian...Raiders
Brian Pillman...Bengals
Tully Blanchard...West Texas State
Brusier Brody...West Texas State
Stan "Lariat" Hansen...West Texas State
Danny Spivey...Falcons
The Rock...Miami
Dory Funk Jr...West Texas State
Terry Funk...West Texas State

LA Olympic Auditorium BATTLE ROYAL

Mr. Moto
Judo Gene LaBell
Hard Boiled Haggarty
Baron Leoni
Freddie Blassie
Sandor Szabo
"Dangerous" Danny McShane
Count Billy Varga
Lou Thesz
"Wild" Red Berry
Bobo Brazil
Haystacks Calhoun
Lord Layton
The Destroyer
Gorgeous George
Edouard Carpentier
Rikidozan
Don Leo Jonathan
Ricki Starr
Wilbur Snyder



The...Wild Kingdom...BATTLE ROYAL

"Wild" Bull Curry
Mad Dog Vachon
Moose Cholak
King Kong Bundy
Bulldog Brower
Gorilla Monsoon
Moondog Mayne
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Roadwarrior Animal
Roadwarrior Hawk
Bulldog Bob Brown
Bull Ramos
Billy White Wolf
The Elephant Boy
Bearcat Wright
Don Eagle
King Kong Mosca
Tarzan Tyler
The Killer Bee's
Ox Baker

The...Who was that masked man?...BATTLE ROYAL

El Santo
Torbellino Blanco
Sin Cara
Rey Misterio
Mil Mascaras
The Destroyer
The Super Destroyer
The Assasins
The Bolos
The Medics
The Interns
The Executioneers
Dr X
Justin "Thunder" Liger
The Cheetah Kid

The..Strong Man...BATTLE ROYAL

Jeep Swenson
Bill Kazmeir
Ted Arcidi
Dino Bravo
The Warlord
Hercules Hernandez
The Roadwarriors
The Barbarian
Yukon Erich
Mark Henry
Big E. Langston
Goldberg
Batista
Hercules Cortez
Sailor Art Thomas
Scott Steiner
Ivan Putski
The Great Antonio
Bruno Sammartino

Too long, didn't read. If only you could have made a thread about it ..

[benefactor]

Too long, didn't read. If only you could have made a thread about it ..
:lol

[DMC]

But you watch fake movies right?

No. They are real movies.

[Red Hawk #21]

I don't watch fake fighting. If you think about what they are doing, you wouldn't either.

Please tell us how the fighting is "fake". Yes, we know it's scripted and there are storylines at play, but nothing about the hits, collisions, and falls are fake. For someone who acts like they can never be wrong you really post some dumb shit sometimes.

[DJR210]

Please tell us how the fighting is "fake". Yes, we know it's scripted and there are storylines at play, but nothing about the hits, collisions, and falls are fake. For someone who acts like they can never be wrong you really post some dumb shit sometimes.

:lol took the bait

[Red Hawk #21]

:lol took the bait

k

[Avante]

Please tell us how the fighting is "fake". Yes, we know it's scripted and there are storylines at play, but nothing about the hits, collisions, and falls are fake. For someone who acts like they can never be wrong you really post some dumb shit sometimes.

Been into pro rasslin' all my life, and there was a time I thought it was legit. I was around 13 when I found out it wasn't.

Saw a match from Fresno*** on their BIG TIME WRESTLING show on Wednesday. That Friday the family went to Modesto to visit some realitives. So it's Friday Night BIG TIME WRESTLING from Sacramento, there it was....again.. hold for hold blow for blow...indentical.

First off everything is done with the left hand, that way they don't mess up. Second off it's up to the guy getting clobbered to "sell" it. No they are not really being hit other that open hand slaps like we see from Sheamus. Ever notice nobody ever swells up from a punch? It is all as fake as it can get.

But...it does take an athlete to pull it off and it is rough and these guys do get seriously hurt. But don't kid yourself into thinking anything about it isn't done as carefully as possible because it is. Nothing real about it.

The politics involved, the behind the scenes goings on, who gets a push and why, who doesn't and why is what interests me now at this stage of the game.


*** Danny 0' Rourke vs Sir Alan Garfield

[Avante]

Too long, didn't read. If only you could have made a thread about it ..

Little man, you are more concerned with that than I am, trust me.

[chunticakes]

Little man, you are more concerned with that than I am, trust me.

which wrestler has the fastest 40?

[Avante]

which wrestler has the fastest 40?


That would be Shelton Benjamin who was a sprinter while in college.

Real wrestlers in the NCAA who became pro Rasslers.

Danny Hodge
Verne Gagne
Dick Hutton
Kurt Angle
Brock Lesnar
Chris Taylor
The Iron Sheik

[spurraider21]

Please tell us how the fighting is "fake". Yes, we know it's scripted and there are storylines at play, but nothing about the hits, collisions, and falls are fake. For someone who acts like they can never be wrong you really post some dumb shit sometimes.
nothing? like never?

:lol

what about this hit/collision?

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1254423_o.gif

[Avante]

You approach pro rasslin' like ya do movies, a tv show. Of course it's not real so ya play along, yep....a soap opera. If you sit there watching a movie with....that isn't real blood....you're ruining it.

[spurraider21]

You approach pro rasslin' like ya do movies, a tv show. Of course it's not real so ya play along, yep....a soap opera. If you sit there watching a movie with....that isn't real blood....you're ruining it.
i know. but when somebody says "nothing about the hits, collisions are fake"... i think he needs to have the ol' santa clause talk

[Avante]

i know. but when somebody says "nothing about the hits, collisions are fake"... i think he needs to have the ol' santa clause talk

I am a bit curious about how anyone today wouldn't know about what pro rasslin' is all about. McMahon has made it very very clear.....it's entertainment not sport. Not that it couldn't be compared to gymnastics.

[Avante]

This is as big as it gets.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEROugeKfOs

We can see why things are like they are today, nobody would be into all that mat rasslin'.

[z0sa]

:lol wrestling. Its for morons, solely. At least if youre male. Theres no exceptions to this rule... scratch that, law either. Only morons watch wrestling, period.

[Avante]

:lol wrestling. Its for morons, solely. At least if youre male. Theres no exceptions to this rule... scratch that, law either. Only morons watch wrestling, period.

You really this fucking stupid?

What about...

Two years earlier, when a crowd of 93,000 came out to see WWF's Wrestlemania
... number of fans: If not a sport, then what exactly is professional wrestling? ...

That was just as the stadium, now add the pay per view audience.

[z0sa]

Example A of z0sa's law, ladies and gentlemen

[Avante]

Example A of z0sa's law, ladies and gentlemen

Go over to the PRO WRESTLING thread at the General Sports forum and tell all those there they are all morons.


You're an idiot.

[Darius McCrary]

They should do the WCW style World War 3 PPV with 3 rings and do a Royal Rumble that way, imo, fwiw, tbh, tbh

[z0sa]

Fuck em all

[Red Hawk #21]

nothing? like never?

:lol

what about this hit/collision?



:lol I understand that there are numerous situations in which wrestlers exaggerate contact, that's pretty obvious. My argument is that overall though these guys take a beating. I'm pretty sure the times in which they were actually taking real punishment significantly outweigh the times which they exaggerated how hard they were hit, especially when you realize these people wrestle for years. I haven't watched wrestling consistently since about 2002 (I was about 11) but I tune in from time to time because wrestling was fun for me as a kid. I'm much more concerned with basketball and to a lesser extent, the UFC, than I am with the WWE at this point of my life. But it still amazes me in a sport where numerous people have suffered concussions, brain damage, and other serious life-changing and life-threatening injuries people still shrug it off and say "It's fake fighting".

[Avante]

:lol I understand that there are numerous situations in which wrestlers exaggerate contact, that's pretty obvious. My argument is that overall though these guys take a beating. I'm pretty sure the times in which they were actually taking real punishment significantly outweigh the times which they exaggerated how hard they were hit, especially when you realize these people wrestle for years. I haven't watched wrestling consistently since about 2002 (I was about 11) but I tune in from time to time because wrestling was fun for me as a kid. I'm much more concerned with basketball and to a lesser extent, the UFC, than I am with the WWE at this point of my life. But it still amazes me in a sport where numerous people have suffered concussions, brain damage, and other serious life-changing and life-threatening injuries people still shrug it off and say "It's fake fighting".

Dude, been into this stuff since the late 50's, trust me.....IT'S FAKE FIGHTING...ok? Sure it's rough, sure guys get hurt, but nobody out there is really trying to hurt anyone, everything is pulled and it's as fake as it can get....ok?

These guys today go to schools that teach them how to fake it.

[cantthinkofanything]

wasn't always fake...

http://www.dieselcrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fritz-von-erich-iron-claw.jpg

[cantthinkofanything]

lol at this pic

http://centpourcentcatch.free.fr/images/catcheurs/kerry_von_erich/04.JPG

[Avante]

wasn't always fake...

http://www.dieselcrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fritz-von-erich-iron-claw.jpg

That's the German bad boy Fritz Von Erich, and his patented move...THE IRON CLAW. In reality he was a Texan named Jack Atkinson, who played football at SMU and in the old AFL.

It was just as fake in his day as it is today.

[Avante]

lol at this pic

http://centpourcentcatch.free.fr/images/catcheurs/kerry_von_erich/04.JPG

Kerry Von Erich vs Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig both second generation rasslers. Hennig's dad was....Larry "The Ax" Hennig, his claim to fame was as a tagteam partner of Harley Race.

[Death In June]

Wrestling is dumb in the same way that comic books are dumb. I'm still able to enjoy both mediums and characters though if it's not a total shit show. No matter how bad the product gets, the rumble is always at least entertaining.

[cantthinkofanything]

Kerry Von Erich vs Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig both second generation rasslers. Hennig's dad was....Larry "The Ax" Hennig, his claim to fame was as a tagteam partner of Harley Race.

do you think than Von Erich pulled out?

[Avante]

Those who don't know....



Pro wrestling has its roots in the old carny challenges where a carnival wrestler would challenge local toughs to last for a set time period. Most of the time the challenger would be a plant who split the money with the wrestler. However, sometimes it became real and the carny would have to "shoot" or "hook" his opponent.
That said, pro wrestling started out as legit. It also started out long and, to large extent, boring with rest holds being the standard fare. Matches were two out of three falls and also lasted for hours. I believe Frank Gotch vs George Hackenschmidt lasted between three to five hours. In the 1930s, the Golddust Trio formed and that all changed. The Trio (which was composed of promoter Toots Mondt, legendary shooter Ed "Strangler" Lewis, and someone whos name escapes me at the moment) took wrestling back to its carny roots by scripting the outcome of the matches on their shows. Lewis was billed as their champion simply because no one (with the exception of Farmer Burns) could beat him unless he let them. The champion periodically lost the belt to keep the fans interested, but needed to be a legit badass to prevent promoters and opponents from screwing him over. When the NWA formed, Lewis's handpicked successor Lou Thesz became the World Champion for the same reason.
So, to answer your question, pro wrestling started out scripted in the 19th century, became legit in the early 20th century, and returned to its scripted roots within 30 years.

[Avante]

do you think than Von Erich pulled out?

Huh?

[cantthinkofanything]

lol at this pic

http://centpourcentcatch.free.fr/images/catcheurs/kerry_von_erich/04.JPG

Kerry Von Erich vs Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig both second generation rasslers. Hennig's dad was....Larry "The Ax" Hennig, his claim to fame was as a tagteam partner of Harley Race.


do you think than Von Erich pulled out?


Huh?

http://centpourcentcatch.free.fr/images/catcheurs/kerry_von_erich/04.JPG

[Red Hawk #21]

Dude, been into this stuff since the late 50's, trust me.....IT'S FAKE FIGHTING...ok? Sure it's rough, sure guys get hurt, but nobody out there is really trying to hurt anyone, everything is pulled and it's as fake as it can get....ok?

These guys today go to schools that teach them how to fake it.

What is your definition of "Fake Fighting"?

[Avante]

What is your definition of "Fake Fighting"?

That would be when when both combatants are well aware of how important it is that neither hurts the other one because they need the work/$$$$. So both guys do all they can to give the impressive of real fighting when in reality everything is done without any actual violence involved.

The last thing a rassler wants to do is be the reason a co worker is out of work.

A guy who works stiff....meaning he's not good at pulling things....is very very unpopular in the biz and nobody wants to work with him. Big Van Vadar had that rep. Ryback has that rep.

[cantthinkofanything]

That would be when when both combatants are well aware of how important it is that neither hurts the other one because they need the work/$$$$. So both guys do all they can to give the impressive of real fighting when in reality everything is done without any actual violence involved.

A guy who works stiff....meaning he's not good at pulling things....is very very unpopular in the biz and nobody wants to work with him. Big Van Vadar had that rep. Ryback has that rep.

well...does any of this look fake to you?

http://i.imgur.com/9J2jy.jpg

http://www.wrestleenigma.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/4-Raw-9.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/TMk8AMSCilI/AAAAAAABs-A/y0S5N2Idvsc/s1600/awkward_school_pictures_09.jpg

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Urantsetseg-Munkhbat-nip-slip-olympics-judo-2.jpg

[Red Hawk #21]

That would be when when both combatants are well aware of the importance it is that neither hurts the other one because they need the work/$$$$. So both guys do all they can to give the impressive of real fighting when in reality everything is done without any actual violence involved.

A guy who works stiff....meaning he's not good at pulling things....is very very unpopular in the biz and nobody wants to work with him. Big Van Vadar had that rep. Ryback has that rep.

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here. We all know wrestling is scripted and guys often exaggerate contact, but those guys face real pain in that ring. For that reason I don't see it as "fake fighting".

[Avante]

Dude, I knew a bartender who was a pro rassler, he rassled in the WWA region back in the 60's, trust me, it's totally/completely/100% fake...ok?

[cantthinkofanything]

Dude, I knew a bartender who was a pro rassler, he rassled in the WWA region back in the 60's, trust me, it's totally/completely/100% fake...ok?

is this you and your bartender?

http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/awkward-wrestling-grab.jpeg

[Avante]

All these guys travel and pretty much live together. Like all businesses we have the good workers and the bad ones. In the rasslin' biz those with mic skills leap over those without them, usually those workers get a manager to talk for them. The last thing anyone wants to do is lay somebody up for awhile, they do all they can do to play it as safe as possible. Nobody wants to cost his co worker $$$$$$$. You hurt a couple guys and your job is on the line.

[Avante]

is this you and your bartender?

http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/awkward-wrestling-grab.jpeg

Why do you always end up..."see me everyone, aren't I funny?" Well? Why this need to play that? You come off looking stupid.

[Avante]

Why do we see soooooooooooooooooooo many immature and dumb posters here?

[cantthinkofanything]

Why do you always end up..."see me everyone, aren't I funny?" Well? Why this need to play that? You come off looking stupid.

http://ididafunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/12-hulk1.jpg

[cantthinkofanything]

Why do we see soooooooooooooooooooo many immature and dumb posters here?

http://www.watkykjy.co.za/uploaded_images/super-retard-778084.jpg

[Avante]

Will you ever grow up?

[Red Hawk #21]

cantthinkofanything using this thread as an opportunity to show us the kind of pictures stored on his hard drive.

[cantthinkofanything]

Will you ever grow up?

like you?

sitting around in a garage of old books and magazines posting on Spurstalk all day?

that doesn't sound like an appealing way to spend one's golden years

[cantthinkofanything]

cantthinkofanything using this thread as an opportunity to show us the kind of pictures stored on his hard drive.

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607990769092264271&pid=15.1&P=0

[DJR210]

I watch wrestling these days solely to criticize it. My girl doesn't understand why I sit there for 3 hours pissed off talking shit about how stupid the direction is.

[DJR210]

Go over to the PRO WRESTLING thread at the General Sports forum and tell all those there they are all morons.


You're an idiot.

:lol chill

[Avante]

like you?

sitting around in a garage of old books and magazines posting on Spurstalk all day?

that doesn't sound like an appealing way to spend one's golden years

Dude, the wife has a business in the home, I'm the.....honey could ya go get.....ok? In a garage, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

I watch wrestling these days solely to criticize it. My girl doesn't understand why I sit there for 3 hours pissed off talking shit about how stupid the direction is.


DVR it, now you get around an hour (usualy less) with no commercials.

[cantthinkofanything]

Dude, the wife has a business in the home, I'm the.....honey could ya go get.....ok? In a garage, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh right...the child abducting thing...

[Avante]

oh right...the child abducting thing...

Yep, I go out and kidnap kids, then the parents have to pay us to get them back. She cals it....Judy's Captive Kids. We even get a check from the state to feed these captives,

[cantthinkofanything]

Yep, I go out and kidnap kids, then the parents have to pay us to get them back. She cals it....Judy's Captive Kids. We even get a check from the state to feed these captives,

:downspin:

[Avante]

Poor little weirdo.

[Avante]

rasslin' trivia

1. Give me four..."Killer......."

2.Give me 8 West Texas State footballers who became rasslers.

3.Give me 6 Indians.

4.Give me the ballet dancer/rassler. He actually wore ballet slippers.

5.Give me 4 bald headed rasslers.

[cantthinkofanything]

rasslin' trivia

1. Give me four..."Killer......."

Killer Tim Brooks
Killer Brody
Killer Von Erich
Killer Ric Flair

2.Give me 8 West Texas State footballers who became rasslers.

Nutty Ed Pawaltec
John Sancho Riggins
Onion Rings Crowder
Ringo Sandoval
Raster Billkuckity
Ala Abduhnaby
Ching Ho Soung
Willie Phister

3.Give me 6 Indians.

Kabuki
Junkyard Dog
Alvin Harper
Jug City Julius Brown
Mike "Raji" Bagnadi

4.Give me the ballet dancer/rassler. He actually wore ballet slippers.

Andre the Giant

5.Give me 4 bald headed rasslers.

Bald Willie Bingam
Steve Austin
Dead Kerry Von Erich
Wilbur Fandango Dotson

[DMC]

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here. We all know wrestling is scripted and guys often exaggerate contact, but those guys face real pain in that ring. For that reason I don't see it as "fake fighting".
Only rednecks believe that shit. Even back when there was blood (gee where did that go?) it was because wrestlers would carry a small sliver of razor blade in their trunks, wrapped in tape to set a depth gauge, and then cut their own forehead. The forehead bleeds like crazy. it's why the blood was always from the forehead. I've been a a few fights, never saw a guy bleed from a small cut in the forehead from a punch.

In fact, let me hit one of them in the face with a chair, I bet they don't make the next event.

[DJR210]

Only rednecks believe that shit. Even back when there was blood (gee where did that go?) it was because wrestlers would carry a small sliver of razor blade in their trunks, wrapped in tape to set a depth gauge, and then cut their own forehead. The forehead bleeds like crazy. it's why the blood was always from the forehead. I've been a a few fights, never saw a guy bleed from a small cut in the forehead from a punch.

In fact, let me hit one of them in the face with a chair, I bet they don't make the next event.

They take aspirin to thin the blood too..Eddie Guerrero could have died with the amount of blood he lost after aspirin and a blade job that was a little too deep.

[Avante]

Most the rasslers have had a long line of injuries, and there is no doubt the "sport" is very rough. But.....there is also no doubt these guys do all they can to not hurt each other. Obviously only so much can be done.

There is no....real fighting...ever done in the major companies, sure in the rinky dinky organizations held in gyms that hold 200 people we might see a couple guys get pissed. But it's rare.

[Avante]

rasslin' trivia

1. Give me four..."Killer......."

Killer Tim Brooks
Killer Brody
Killer Von Erich
Killer Ric Flair

2.Give me 8 West Texas State footballers who became rasslers.

Nutty Ed Pawaltec
John Sancho Riggins
Onion Rings Crowder
Ringo Sandoval
Raster Billkuckity
Ala Abduhnaby
Ching Ho Soung
Willie Phister

3.Give me 6 Indians.

Kabuki
Junkyard Dog
Alvin Harper
Jug City Julius Brown
Mike "Raji" Bagnadi

4.Give me the ballet dancer/rassler. He actually wore ballet slippers.

Andre the Giant

5.Give me 4 bald headed rasslers.

Bald Willie Bingam
Steve Austin
Dead Kerry Von Erich
Wilbur Fandango Dotson

Here ya go little fella.

Killer Kowalski
Killer Karl Kox
Killer Khan
Killer Brooks

Dory Funk Jr.
Terry Funk
Stan Hansen
Brusier Brody
Dusty Rhodes
Tito Santana
Tully Blanchard
Ted Dibiase

Don Eagle
Billy Red Cloud
Chief Big Heart
Jay Strongbow
Wahoo McDaneil
Billy White Wolf


Rickie Starr

Skull Murphy
Brute Bernard
Ox Baker
The Von Stroheims

You should be writing all this stuff down little fella.

[Red Hawk #21]

Most the rasslers have had a long line of injuries, and there is no doubt the "sport" is very rough. But.....there is also no doubt these guys do all they can to not hurt each other. Obviously only so much can be done.

There is no....real fighting...ever done in the major companies, sure in the rinky dinky organizations held in gyms that hold 200 people we might see a couple guys get pissed. But it's rare.

Let's say me and you were following a script and I threw you off of a steel cage and you fell about 20 feet. Would you still shrug it off and say "it's fake fighting" as you lay on the ground in tremendous pain?

[Chris]

SPOILER

Thanks Trill for ruining my Wrestlemania last year with your omg undertaker lost thread :lol

1s3Aht-IPCs

[DMC]

Most the rasslers have had a long line of injuries, and there is no doubt the "sport" is very rough. But.....there is also no doubt these guys do all they can to not hurt each other. Obviously only so much can be done.

There is no....real fighting...ever done in the major companies, sure in the rinky dinky organizations held in gyms that hold 200 people we might see a couple guys get pissed. But it's rare.

Stunt men have it rough too, they get hurt, but it's an act. No one is really falling from a 30 story building to the ground.

[DMC]

Let's say me and you were following a script and I threw you off of a steel cage and you fell about 20 feet. Would you still shrug it off and say "it's fake fighting" as you lay on the ground in tremendous pain?
You obviously don't differentiate between fighting and choreographed stunts. Fighting means two people trying to beat each other in some form of combat. What they are doing is scripted falling, running and jumping, fake blows, fake "pain" and "stunned" moments, etc... Notice in MMA you never seen anyone take someone off the top of the cage after stunning them for 20 seconds. Notice also in MMA when someone gets hit in the face, they bleed like a stuck pig. There's never even a black eye in wrestling (black guys notwithstanding of course).

I cannot believe you're still arguing this shit. Are you really this fucking stupid?

[Red Hawk #21]

You obviously don't differentiate between fighting and choreographed stunts. Fighting means two people trying to beat each other in some form of combat. What they are doing is scripted falling, running and jumping, fake blows, fake "pain" and "stunned" moments, etc... Notice in MMA you never seen anyone take someone off the top of the cage after stunning them for 20 seconds. Notice also in MMA when someone gets hit in the face, they bleed like a stuck pig. There's never even a black eye in wrestling (black guys notwithstanding of course).

I cannot believe you're still arguing this shit. Are you really this fucking stupid?

Like I said before if I threw you off a steel cage and you fell 20 feet, would the fact that I was following a script somehow take the pain away? You are one dumb motherfucker. Seriously, DMC you are a fucking dumbass.

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQFkSFDpn8

[Avante]

Let's say me and you were following a script and I threw you off of a steel cage and you fell about 20 feet. Would you still shrug it off and say "it's fake fighting" as you lay on the ground in tremendous pain?

You don't appear to undertand the word.....fighting. Nobody is...fighting....in pro rasslin', ok? They are putting on a show with a predetermined ending. Everything that can be done to play it safe is being done. That is not a fight, ok? That is a play using fake wrestling tactics....ok?

[Avante]

Stunt men have it rough too, they get hurt, but it's an act. No one is really falling from a 30 story building to the ground.

Well no shit.

[spurraider21]

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Please tell us how the fighting is "fake". Yes, we know it's scripted and there are storylines at play, but nothing about the hits, collisions, and falls are fake. For someone who acts like they can never be wrong you really post some dumb shit sometimes.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQFkSFDpn8

[Red Hawk #21]

I understand that there are numerous situations in which wrestlers exaggerate contact, that's pretty obvious. My argument is that overall though these guys take a beating. I'm pretty sure the times in which they were actually taking real punishment significantly outweigh the times which they exaggerated how hard they were hit, especially when you realize these people wrestle for years. It still amazes me in a sport where numerous people have suffered concussions, brain damage, and other serious life-changing and life-threatening injuries people still shrug it off and say "It's fake fighting".

[Red Hawk #21]

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6:11 Mark, 11:30 Mark FTW

[Avante]

When I first started watching the rasslin' with my son Mason I wasn't going to tell him it was all fake. Like all of us he'd either figure it out or find out. Then as he got into his teens I started wondering....does he think I think it's real and doesn't wanna spoil it for me.....hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

[Red Hawk #21]

Avante this is Fake pain tbh, right?

http://i58.tinypic.com/bha7g5.jpg

[DJR210]

There's never even a black eye in wrestling

:lol Vader had his eyeball popped out of the socket off a "fake" punch in Japan. He had to push it back into place in the ring and continue as the match just started. I get your points, but wrestling isn't as pussy a you're trying to make it out to be.

I'm on my phone, maybe someone can link the YouTube video.

[Avante]

Who here has played football with girls? Well the rasslin' is like that, hell no you're not going to....WHAM!....like you would a guy. You do all you can not to hurt them while still playing the game.

[Avante]

Avante this is Fake pain tbh, right?

http://i58.tinypic.com/bha7g5.jpg

Do you understand the word....intent? Without the...intent...of hurting someome, it's not an actual fight....ok?

I've talked about how rough the "sport" is, it's very rough and guys get hurt all the time. But, it's not real and we all know that.

[Silver&Black]

:lol Vader had his eyeball popped out of the socket off a "fake" punch in Japan. He had to push it back into place in the ring and continue as the match just started. I get your points, but wrestling isn't as pussy a you're trying to make it out to be.

I'm on my phone, maybe someone can link the YouTube video.

Eyeball injury at 3:40 mark

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[spurraider21]

did you know that the bleeding is all predetermined too :lol

[Avante]

did you know that the bleeding is all predetermined too :lol

The rasslers get together before the match to work out a few big ...bumps. Both having already been told the ending. The ref runs the match with signals letting them know ...time.

Most these guys went to schools and spent a couple years in the rinky dinky side of things working on their skills. If they show some talent/mic skills and the WWE thinks they might draw a little $$$$$ here they come.

As you know, it's all totally/completely/100% fake. You can't make $$$$ being hurt and everyone knows this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGldvB-LQ3U

[Silver&Black]

Greatest rassler of all time:

http://www.canoe.ca/WrestlingImagesD/duggan_hacksaw.jpg

https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/5a9e6bb6b547e086f0dd201d6b80efac/2352%20-%20hacksaw_jim_duggan%20microphone%20royal_rumble% 20wwf.png

http://milliondollarman.com/things/uploads/2013/06/hacksaw_jim_duggan_ted_dibiase_mid_south_wrestling .jpg

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Avante shame on you for leaving Hacksaw Jim Duggan off your initial list :depressed

[Chris]

^ coincidentally the first winner of the Royal Rumble

[Chris]

Sure its a work, but wrestlers are probably some of the toughest people on the planet. Not really someone you'd want to fuck with in a bar fight; you would be humbled quickly. The old school "shoot" wrestlers would break one of your appendages for your trouble, and keep the hold on a little longer to "stretch you out". Avante knows what I'm talking about.

[Avante]

Rasslin; Heaven

Once upon a time....

We had...

AWA
WCW
WWF
Mid South

rasslin' on tv. And at one time there was....

WWA...LA Fred Blassie
NWA San Francisco...Ray Stevens
Pacific NW...Dutch Savage
Texas.."Wild" Bull Curry
North...Verne Gagne
Canada...Killer Kowalski
East Coast...Bruno Sammartino
The South...Jackie Fargo

a little later...

CWA...Jerry "The King" Lawler
World Class...The Von Erichs
WCW...Ric Flair
Mid South...Steve "Dr. Death" Williams

Vince McMahon fucked that all up.

[Avante]

Sure its a work, but wrestlers are probably some of the toughest people on the planet. Not really someone you'd want to fuck with in a bar fight; you would be humbled quickly. The old school "shoot" wrestlers would break one of your appendages for your trouble, and keep the hold on a little longer to "stretch you out". Avante knows what I'm talking about.

The...HUGE...difference in as bar fight and why a pro rassler would kick ass....cardio conditioning. Bar toughs have no cardio, in two minutes they're done. A pro rassler can work a good hour if need be.

[Chris]

Lived right across the street from a SCW training facility owned by Joe Blanchard. Really the only training facility in San Antonio, until it mysteriously burned to the ground. Rumours in my neighborhood said someone saw a masked man running from the scene, a Luchador mask. True story tbh I got to meet Big Bubba who turned out to be Fred Ottman aka Tugboat aka Shockmaster :lol They would routinely get ice cream from the neighborhood ice cream man which parked conveniently across the street from my house.

[Chris]

The...HUGE...difference in as bar fight and why a pro rassler would kick ass....cardio conditioning. Bar toughs have no cardio, in two minutes they're done. A pro rassler can work a good hour if need be.

Amazing cardio, not quite on par with a professional boxer, but probably close. Roddy Piper said he ran 5 miles a day 5 times a week just to get ready for his Wrestlemania boxing match with Mr. T.

[Silver&Black]

Was also a huge Koko B. Ware fan when I was a kid....The original "Birdman"

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/superstar_bio/public/talent/bio/2012/04/koko_bio.png

http://cache.onlineworldofwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Koko-B-2.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/29/c7/e6/29c7e6581d6bd89a08c97e3fac9e9c6d.jpg

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[Red Hawk #21]

Do you understand the word....intent? Without the...intent...of hurting someome, it's not an actual fight....ok?

I've talked about how rough the "sport" is, it's very rough and guys get hurt all the time. But, it's not real and we all know that.

So just because you didn't intend to hurt someone it makes it "fake" if you actually do hurt them? So it's all about intent to you? For example, you had sex with underage girls while you were overseas, you've made it clear that you didn't intend to do so and you weren't aware that these girls were underage at the time. However, just because it wasn't your intention to commit statutory rape, it doesn't make your actions "fake". You are a real rapist and pedophile.

[Avante]

So just because you didn't intend to hurt someone it makes it "fake" if you actually do hurt them? So it's all about intent to you? For example, you had sex with underage girls while you were overseas, you've made it clear that you didn't intend to do so and you weren't aware that these girls were underage at the time. However, just because it wasn't your intention to commit statutory rape, it doesn't make your actions "fake". You are a real rapist and pedophile.

Then there's always reality.

We start with what was ...underage. The legal age of consent over there was ridiculous, it was something like 14. But...in order to work inside the bars a girl had to have a work permit. She had to be 18 to qualify for one.

So just like pro rasslin' you don't know anything about that world.....either. At least you're consistant.

This is pro rasslin', more or less.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBppeD550o&feature=related

At no time does Vin hit the guy.

Look ya little shit, the pro rasslin' biz takes a stud, a guy in fantastic shape who could probably excell at a real sport. Some did. BUT.......................don't be a fucking moron, ok? It's not real and hasn't been real since the early 30's....OK?

Stupid, seen them all since the late 50's, seen guys miss a punch by a solid foot. Seen guys miss a drop kick by a solid foot. Seen so many fuck ups it's ridiculous, don't be trying to tell me any of it is real ...ok? It isn't and only a fucking idiot would think that it is, you got that faggot?

Go to youtube and type in......is pro wrestling fake.....tell me what you find.

[100%duncan]

WWE has died. I watched it as a kid, knew it was fake, but what the hell it was fun then. Now it's a fucking sitcom.

[DMC]

:lol Vader had his eyeball popped out of the socket off a "fake" punch in Japan. He had to push it back into place in the ring and continue as the match just started. I get your points, but wrestling isn't as pussy a you're trying to make it out to be.

I'm on my phone, maybe someone can link the YouTube video.
It is pussy. It's just big guys doing it. Imagine fake football. Would you watch it? (cue obligatory NFL remark).

[DMC]

So just because you didn't intend to hurt someone it makes it "fake" if you actually do hurt them? So it's all about intent to you? For example, you had sex with underage girls while you were overseas, you've made it clear that you didn't intend to do so and you weren't aware that these girls were underage at the time. However, just because it wasn't your intention to commit statutory rape, it doesn't make your actions "fake". You are a real rapist and pedophile.

Actors get hurt. Are they really acting?

[ohmwrecker]

I lost a few brain cells reading this shit.

[Avante]

I enjoy the personalties involved in the rasslin' biz. I find the behind the scenes stuff fascinating. The politics involved, interesting.

Now add the action which is second to none when it comes to team work. If these guys don't make it work somebody can get seriously hurt and they do this every night of the week. That amazes me.

When you grew up watching it and know the history of it all, that adds to to the enjoyment. When ya know where "Nature Boy" Ric Flair got his gimmick and that "Nature Boy" got his name from a favorite actor.......hey! When ya know who influensed Gorgeous George...............................