The elite are scared

[m>s]

Well of course they want to disarm the people and implement a police statehttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/panicked-super-rich-buying-boltholes-5044084
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[ChumpDumper]

lol paragraphs

[Winehole23]

lol NZ being the new Paraguay, say hi to Kim Dotcom for me, m>s.

[m>s]

lol paragraphs
If you don't have anything to contribute fuck off shill. Another group besides the elite who should be scared is the JIDF

[ChumpDumper]

If you don't have anything to contribute fuck off shill. Another group besides the elite who should be scared is the JIDF
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lol

[spurraider21]

lol paragraphs
very good! somebody's been studying up on his grade school level english/grammar skills :wow

[Nero5]

ROTFL! Thinking that anyone that wealthy could possibly have anything to fear from MS and his ilk!

[ChumpDumper]

very good! somebody's been studying up on his grade school level english/grammar skills :wow?

[spurraider21]

?
you were able to identify a paragraph. very impressive

[ChumpDumper]

you were able to identify a paragraph. very impressiveThat wasn't what I was doing tbh.

You really don't know what I was doing there?

That's impressive.

[spurraider21]

That wasn't what I was doing tbh.

You really don't know what I was doing there?

That's impressive.
that's exactly what you did though. you saw a paragraph and were able to tell us exactly what it was.

your assignment for next week is to identify prepositional phrases. good luck

[ChumpDumper]

that's exactly what you did though. you saw a paragraph and were able to tell us exactly what it was.

your assignment for next week is to identify prepositional phrases. good luckThat wasn't what I was doing.

You really don't know what I was doing there?

Shall I explain it to you?

I'd be happy to since you are having such difficulty understanding.

[spurraider21]

That wasn't what I was doing.

You really don't know what I was doing there?

Shall I explain it to you?

I'd be happy to since you are having such difficulty understanding.
No need to explain.

I'll check back on you next week for your assignment.

[ChumpDumper]

No need to explain.

I'll check back on you next week for your assignment.There is a need to explain since you completely failed to understand what happened.

You need additional work. Is English not your first language? I could understand your failure if that is the case.

[spurraider21]

There is a need to explain since you completely failed to understand what happened.

You need additional work. Is English not your first language? I could understand your failure if that is the case.
Are you seriously implying that the large paragraph in the OP had nothing to do with you saying "lol paragraphs"

If not, then you have a really weird case of forum Tourette syndrome

[ChumpDumper]

Are you seriously implying that the large paragraph in the OP had nothing to do with you saying "lol paragraphs"I was not merely identifying one paragraph as you contend.

You just made a straw man.

Now, think really hard and try to figure out what I was doing.

I think you might be able to do it, but I am willing to explain it in full if you fail again.

[ohmwrecker]

jesus fucking christ...

[RandomGuy]

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LOL recommended for you

Gee thanks.

http://rlv.zcache.com/your_concerns_have_been_duly_noted_now_please_mug-r8af052a3d2bc4653ba0002f2eebacf20_x7jgr_8byvr_512. jpg

[spurraider21]

I was not merely identifying one paragraph as you contend.

You just made a straw man.

Now, think really hard and try to figure out what I was doing.

I think you might be able to do it, but I am willing to explain it in full if you fail again.
Instead of trying to explain something, get to work on those prepositional phrases. They can be tricky.

[ChumpDumper]

Instead of trying to explain something, get to work on those prepositional phrases. They can be tricky.Have you figured out where you failed yet?

Let me know when you realize your failure.

[RandomGuy]

That wasn't what I was doing.

You really don't know what I was doing there?

Shall I explain it to you?

I'd be happy to since you are having such difficulty understanding.

Oh oooh, can I do it?

I am going to guess it was a snarky comment about the OP being too lazy to do anything more than a sloppy copy and paste for the article he wanted us all to read, and how it makes him look even more like a lazy shit than most of us think he is.

Did I get close?

[m>s]

the phone wouldn't copy any paste anything without pasting it all and i didn't realize it grabbed that part. you guys always find the gayest little things to latch onto because you can never debate the actual material posted. bunch of leftist shillbots on spurstalk. my intent isn't to convince any of you but to educate the neutral reader who stumbles onto this forum. since i started dropping truth bombs on this site i've been able to convert at least 6 or 7 comrades in our struggle.

tl;dr keep talking your shit and thinking that it's telling me. you make my job easier.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh oooh, can I do it?

I am going to guess it was a snarky comment about the OP being too lazy to do anything more than a sloppy copy and paste for the article he wanted us all to read, and how it makes him look even more like a lazy shit than most of us think he is.

Did I get close?Well I knew you could get it.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry the phone :cry

[m>s]

it's obvious to anyone here with a brain that you're here to subvert the free exchange of information. the more you try the more the casual person may actually look into the stuff i post.

[ChumpDumper]

lol you sound more like Cosmored every day.

[m>s]

and you more like a kike

[Ignignokt]

That wasn't what I was doing tbh.

You really don't know what I was doing there?

That's impressive.

I'd also want to congratulate you on being literate. High Five!

[Ignignokt]

lol you sound more like Cosmored every day.

lol UTSA sophistry

[ChumpDumper]

:madrun


:crylol emo gtown

[m>s]

You're reduced to sbm level, you let him pull you down and beat you

[ChumpDumper]

Truly I have no idea why that dude is so angry.

[Ignignokt]

lol emo gtown

phsychoanalyzing people means you had nothing to contribute.

[ChumpDumper]

phsychoanalyzing people means you had nothing to contribute.Just an observation. No need to get so defensive about it.

I have no need to speculate why you are so angry. You are free to tell us if you like.

[m>s]

Defensive, obsessed with me, lol ______

damn dude you're no different than culburn except gay

[ChumpDumper]

I wouldn't say either of you are obsessed with me, but if that's the characterization you are going to run with....

[m>s]

I'm just referencing all of your throwaway lines you've got a few catchphrases you shitpost with

100k posts and nothing of value

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just referencing all of your throwaway lines you've got a few catchphrases you shitpost with

100k posts and nothing of valueHey, there's your throwaway line.

One of them at least.

[m>s]

I never post the same phrases repeatedly I'm more unpredictable than that. I'm a shill like you but at least my agenda is just and I dont need to rely on underhanded tactics

[ChumpDumper]

I never post the same phrases repeatedly I'm more unpredictable than that. I'm a shill like you but at least my agenda is just and I dont need to rely on underhanded tacticslol you post the same stuff over and over.

[m>s]

No its always different material and articles never the same ones

[Ignignokt]

Just an observation. No need to get so defensive about it.

I have no need to speculate why you are so angry. You are free to tell us if you like.

you claim to be in touch with grown men's feeling quite a bit. just wear heels in public, if u want to be that obvious.

[Ignignokt]

Sheeeiiiittt, Blakeold is lurkin' and the Bull is smirkin' while the wifey be squirtin'

[HI-FI]

Sheeeiiiittt, Blakeold is lurkin' and the Bull is smirkin' while the wifey be squirtin'
:lol

[ChumpDumper]

you claim to be in touch with grown men's feeling quite a bit. just wear heels in public, if u want to be that obvious.Anyone can see how angry you are. You seem to want it to be that obvious.

[Ignignokt]

Anyone can see how angry you are. You seem to want it to be that obvious.

Sure buddy, did this come to you in your meditation when you felt the negative forces impact your chakras? Maybe you should recommend me a healing crystal. lol

[ChumpDumper]

Sure buddy, did this come to you in your meditation when you felt the negative forces impact your chakras? Maybe you should recommend me a healing crystal. lolI recommend nothing. If you just want to be angry all the time, that's fine.

[SupremeGuy]

Sheeeiiiittt, Blakeold is lurkin' and the Bull is smirkin' while the wifey be squirtin':rollin

[Blake]

Sheeeiiiittt, Blakeold is lurkin' and the Bull is smirkin' while the wifey be squirtin'

Lol you got a new generation of slappies to laugh at the cuck jokes. Bravo.

[Ignignokt]

Lol you got a new generation of slappies to laugh at the cuck jokes. Bravo.

well thanks to you they're relevant.

[Ignignokt]

I recommend nothing. If you just want to be angry all the time, that's fine.

I have no idea what you gain by trying to paint your opponents as angry or upset, I guess you gave up on trying to prove a point. Either way, your accusations aren't as bad as being an effeminate passive aggressive sperglord.

[ChumpDumper]

I have no idea what you gain by trying to paint your opponents as angry or upset, I guess you gave up on trying to prove a point. Either way, your accusations aren't as bad as being an effeminate passive aggressive sperglord.the part where you fail the worst is assuming there is anything to be gained on a message board.

lol opponents

You should really read what you post sometimes.

:cry WAR! :cry

[m>s]

We are in an information war and you full well know that by the tenacity and relentlessness of your shitposting and shilling

[ChumpDumper]

:cry War! :cry

[CosmicCowboy]

I ain't skeered.

[Blake]

well thanks to you they're relevant.

Lol four years ago. Your embellishments get the unintelligent to lol now as they will again four years from now

[pgardn]

We are in an information war and you full well know that by the tenacity and relentlessness of your shitposting and shilling

Damn.

The ST forum is a veritable battleground for white supremacy. Body parts and incomplete sentences strewn across the field of conflict and all that rot.

[Th'Pusher]

I ain't skeered.
You ain't elite either.

[ChumpDumper]

You ain't elite either.https://31.media.tumblr.com/4e2487cc3dd17f549276a1b1ecd6a9ae/tumblr_mhg95mxM7B1rfwgqko1_500.gif

[Nero5]

and you more like a kike

You know I've always found it amusing that you think calling someone a 'circle' is such an insult.

[CosmicCowboy]

You ain't elite either.

It's all relative. I though you bitches were complaining about the 1%.

[Th'Pusher]

It's all relative. I though you bitches were complaining about the 1%.
You're not the 1% either. At least not in Texas. If memory serves, annual income ~$432k to meet the 1% threshold in Texas. I know your rinky-dink little business, and I can guarantee you aren't pulling down half a mil annually. You've got a decent asset in that property that I'm sure has appreciated nicely since you purchased it and you've got that sign on the property which I'm sure brings in a decent chunk of change.

But come on, boomers like you are a dime a dozen around this town. You're not elite. You're not special. You are a bit delusional though.

[CosmicCowboy]

You're not the 1% either. At least not in Texas. If memory serves, annual income ~$432k to meet the 1% threshold in Texas. I know your rinky-dink little business, and I can guarantee you aren't pulling down half a mil annually. You've got a decent asset in that property that I'm sure has appreciated nicely since you purchased it and you've got that sign on the property which I'm sure brings in a decent chunk of change.

But come on, boomers like you are a dime a dozen around this town. You're not elite. You're not special. You are a bit delusional though.

nice goalpost move. US 1% is $380,000.

Not even close on the net worth 1% though...that's 24.4 million.

[Th'Pusher]

nice goalpost move. US 1% is $380,000.

Not even close on the net worth 1% though...that's 24.4 million.

Oh. Ok rich man. So where's your secret bolthole? Uvalde?

[CosmicCowboy]

Oh. Ok rich man. So where's your secret bolthole? Uvalde?

Actually not sure yet. We have discussed retiring in Belize. Maybe the Bahamas. Still a few years away from decision time. Be nice to have a flats boat and a blue water boat and a sweet little beach house.

Thanks for asking, though.

[m>s]

The 1% ain't got shit on the .0001% though. We're talking about the international financiers and bankers who control 99% of the earths wealth beyond anything you can even fathom. Those bastards who are so rich now it's just about power and controlling populations.

[cantthinkofanything]

The 1% ain't got shit on the .0001% though. We're talking about the international financiers and bankers who control 99% of the earths wealth beyond anything you can even fathom. Those bastards who are so rich now it's just about power and controlling populations.

these are the guys that once the robots are up and running will have little use for the rest of resource using humanity

[m>s]

Pretty much

[Nero5]

yep those Walton family Walmart owners skew the market something wicked, bill gates is shifty giving all of that money to get rid of Malaria when his software never really works. Of course Larry Ellison is nefarious with Oracle and the Koch brothers looking to buy the next president with their 1 billion $ slush fund. Don't get me started on Warren Buffet - anyone on the autistic spectrum is planning something and Bloomberg....hell you just cannot trust a man who has worked for his money like that!

[Nero5]

FWIW and to forgo the hysterical jackboot hissy fit tantrum, here is the top 100 richest people in the world: http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/2/#tab:overall

[RandomGuy]

I never post the same phrases repeatedly I'm more unpredictable than that. I'm a shill like you but at least my agenda is just and I dont need to rely on underhanded tactics

LOL "unpredictable"

:lmao

http://new3.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/No+one+expects+the+spanish+inquisition+_00b59aa860 0a60f4fcb869da9dfd635c.jpg

[RandomGuy]

It's all relative. I though you bitches were complaining about the 1%.

The thing that really blows my mind is how far the actual distribution of wealth is in this country is from what most people think it is, and how much farther actuality is from what we all agree is ideal. Not sure if you have ever seen this, but you might find it a bit surprising:

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[boutons_deux]

The thing that really blows my mind is how far the actual distribution of wealth is in this country is from what most people think it is, and how much farther actuality is from what we all agree is ideal. Not sure if you have ever seen this, but you might find it a bit surprising:

For the USA, it started in the mid'70s when the VRWC aka "movement conservatism" decided the social PROGRESS of the 1960s, and even of the 1930s, even Criminal Tricky Dick Nixon's "progressive" actions were too much, needed to be stopped, AND REVERSED, aka, they started a scorched earth Wealthy Class War on the non-wealthy. They won their Class War but their hateful, sociopathic, REPUGnant greed and their mop-up War on the non-wealthy continues.

[Blizzardwizard]

The thing that really blows my mind is how far the actual distribution of wealth is in this country is from what most people think it is, and how much farther actuality is from what we all agree is ideal. Not sure if you have ever seen this, but you might find it a bit surprising:

QPKKQnijnsM


Pretty shocking video. The UK is in a similar situation unfortunately. However I do dislike how the guy says at 2:23 "Here's socialism, all the wealth of the country distributed equally". That's not socialism. That's communism. Why do Americans insist on lumping communism and socialism all into one big political pot? Extremely naive.

[boutons_deux]

"Why do Americans insist on lumping communism and socialism all into one big political pot"

because most Americans, esp Christians and right wingers, are pretty fucking stupid and ignorant, led around with a ring through their emtional noses by the VRWC and money-grubbing, hate-spewing pastors.

eg: deeply unholy hate-group AFA is leading a huge RNC plane load to The Holy Land

[RandomGuy]

Pretty shocking video. The UK is in a similar situation unfortunately. However I do dislike how the guy says at 2:23 "Here's socialism, all the wealth of the country distributed equally". That's not socialism. That's communism. Why do Americans insist on lumping communism and socialism all into one big political pot? Extremely naive.

Because most people who bitch about "socialism" can't really define it in any meaningful sense. S'all good. Someone using the term generally saves me the time for having to figure out how much credibility to assign them, and figure out how skeptical to be when it comes to their policy solutions.

[Nero5]

It's a nice graphic presentation, but is it true and who is the author? This is the problem with information on the web and our dear ol MS demonstrates it regularly, minimal use of facts and downright lies are the fodder for conspiracy theorists and worse. However having said that, if this is true then what is the difference between 1976 and now - I would suggest tracking the change in law and taxation law in particular. Also consider the change in debt to equity ratio for americans during this period, or better still debt to GDP. The USA has been living beyond it's means for decades and borrowing to do so. Running the small government - low tax model has maldistribution of wealth as its logical outcome. The stark alternative is the scandinavian model: does this 'work' - for them yes. Look at their crime rates, educational outcomes, heath systems etc. Would it work in the USA - no it would not.
At least this one has credits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxvVZe2fnvI

[TeyshaBlue]

Pretty shocking video. The UK is in a similar situation unfortunately. However I do dislike how the guy says at 2:23 "Here's socialism, all the wealth of the country distributed equally". That's not socialism. That's communism. Why do Americans insist on lumping communism and socialism all into one big political pot? Extremely naive.

There's a shit ton of crap in That video....based upon a poll. What's the population? Self-selecting? Is there any attempt at cross sectioning? You buy the conclusions without even answering these 2 basic questions? That's pretty naive imo.

[TeyshaBlue]

You ain't elite either.

:cry

[Blizzardwizard]

There's a shit ton of crap in That video....based upon a poll. What's the population? Self-selecting? Is there any attempt at cross sectioning? You buy the conclusions without even answering these 2 basic questions? That's pretty naive imo.

I already knew about the huge wealth gap before watching the video. So do you believe that the video is false and that wealth inequality isn't as prevalent in America as the video would suggest?

[TeyshaBlue]

Anyone with a room temperature IQ understands that wealth concentrates. Inequality suggests that there should be a condition of "equality" which is fools gold.
Equitable is a better descriptor but its a dynamic descriptor. Peeps haz problems with dynamics.

[Th'Pusher]

State-by-state breakdown of inequality in America. A little more meat on the bones for you TB:

http://www.epi.org/publication/income-inequality-by-state-1917-to-2012/

Full disclosure the epi is a left leaning think tank, but the data is what it is...

[Th'Pusher]

Most shocking - average annual income of the top .01% $34M :spin

[ElNono]

Anyone with a room temperature IQ understands that wealth concentrates. Inequality suggests that there should be a condition of "equality" which is fools gold.
Equitable is a better descriptor but its a dynamic descriptor. Peeps haz problems with dynamics.

It is a dynamic with hard edge cases. If there's "equality" (and no possibility of wealth accumulation) then there's no incentive to work harder than the next guy. But if we understand there's wealth accumulation, then you can also reach the other end of the spectrum, and have a case where too few people have too much wealth accumulated. At that point, economically speaking, you end up with people that extract more than then put into the economy, and the economy eventually gets to a standstill (ie: somebody owns all properties in monopoly and has all the funny money). That's one reason taxes exist (especially in their progressive form). One of it's primary functions is to take wealth and put it back into the economy.

[TeyshaBlue]

State-by-state breakdown of inequality in America. A little more meat on the bones for you TB:

http://www.epi.org/publication/income-inequality-by-state-1917-to-2012/

Full disclosure the epi is a left leaning think tank, but the data is what it is...

That is a meaty study, Push. Good find. Im pretty surprised by the state breakout as well....Utah at 56%. Wtf?
Gives me something good to dig into this weekend. Thx

[TeyshaBlue]

It is a dynamic with hard edge cases. If there's "equality" (and no possibility of wealth accumulation) then there's no incentive to work harder than the next guy. But if we understand there's wealth accumulation, then you can also reach the other end of the spectrum, and have a case where too few people have too much wealth accumulated. At that point, economically speaking, you end up with people that extract more than then put into the economy, and the economy eventually gets to a standstill (ie: somebody owns all properties in monopoly and has all the funny money). That's one reason taxes exist (especially in their progressive form). One of it's primary functions is to take wealth and put it back into the economy.

Exactly....now youre talking equitability. A much better approach than equality.

[RandomGuy]

There's a shit ton of crap in That video....based upon a poll. What's the population? Self-selecting? Is there any attempt at cross sectioning? You buy the conclusions without even answering these 2 basic questions? That's pretty naive imo.

... and that means what exactly?

That a few hundred people controlling more wealth than hundreds of millions is better somehow?

Seems to me that worrying about the poll being "self-selecting" is missing the fucking point. I can't think of many people who would find the reality anything close to their ideal.

Who gives a shit if the "ideal" looks a bit different than in the video, if everyone agrees that the reality is not anywhere close to anything ANYONE would consider ideal, outside the fuckers wiping their asses with hundred dollar bills?

[TeyshaBlue]

You were hot on naive statements. Just thought I'd throw or your enthusiastic embrace of a substantless youtube video, cosmored.

:lol. Okay. Sorry. That was below the belt.
Btw, did I make any statement about "better"?

No.

[TeyshaBlue]

substantless is a word. I just invented it so back off grammar Nazis.

[TeyshaBlue]

Substantialessness?

My head asplode.

[spurraider21]

substanceless

[pgardn]

Lacking substance


I take the long road home.