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Horse
01-29-2015, 08:41 AM
I'm talking just the 4,5 position.

scanry
01-29-2015, 08:51 AM
Doesn't say much when Shaq runs a train through those two to a 3peat.

spursparker9
01-29-2015, 08:57 AM
Asik and Anthony Davis.

Nah...TD and DROB still the best

hater
01-29-2015, 09:20 AM
Doesn't say much when Shaq runs a train through those two to a 3peat.

Horse
01-29-2015, 10:12 AM
Nonsense kobe had more to do with the lakers getting out of the west, then shaq dominated the rik smits of the world and took all the credit. Not to mention shaq got away with murder.

hater
01-29-2015, 10:20 AM
Nonsense kobe had more to do with the lakers getting out of the west, then shaq dominated the rik smits of the world and took all the credit. Not to mention shaq got away with murder.

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baseline bum
01-29-2015, 12:06 PM
Doesn't say much when Shaq runs a train through those two to a 3peat.

When Robinson was old and injured and the Spurs were starting guys like Danny Ferry, Jerome Kersey, Antonio Daniels, Steve Smith, and a 19 year-old Tony Parker.

baseline bum
01-29-2015, 12:07 PM
I'm talking just the 4,5 position.

Elliott was a really good defender too man.

Horse
01-29-2015, 01:36 PM
Elliott was a really good defender too man.

Agreed

Horse
01-29-2015, 01:37 PM
Tell me who hit the big shots? Got the big steal? hell even the big rebound and certainly the free throws that count.

Horse
01-29-2015, 01:38 PM
And just imagine if DROB was still in his prime.

hater
01-29-2015, 01:59 PM
Tell me who hit the big shots? Got the big steal? hell even the big rebound and certainly the free throws that count.

Robert Horry Derek Fisher

SnakeBoy
01-29-2015, 02:17 PM
And just imagine if DROB was still in his prime.

Prime DRob together with prime TD would have been a sight to see.

Cry Havoc
01-29-2015, 02:35 PM
And just imagine if DROB was still in his prime.

I think you could make the case that DRob was in his prime in 99. Or at least at the tail end of it. Duncan got hurt the next season, and after that DRob was never the same. But in 1999 his averages were 15 and 10 with 2.5 blocks per. Most likely would have been much higher had he not given Tim the reins.

hitmantb
01-29-2015, 03:21 PM
99 twin towers > all and swept Shaq/Kobe, I still believe that team can give 2001 Lakers competition.

After that DRob was never the same, 00-02 Spurs had aging wings similar to 08-11, Duncan still played Shaq very well, if you look at his stats he was very even against Shaq in 01 and 02. But Spurs had no answer for Kobe until Bowen, Parker and Ginobili came to play.

TheGreatYacht
01-29-2015, 04:20 PM
Laimbeer and Rodman?

barbacoataco
01-29-2015, 07:34 PM
Duncan was hurt and didn't play in 2000, and by 2001 the Spurs backcourt was rebuilding. People forget Mario Elie was a great defender and he had a certain toughness and physical style the Spurs did not have before Ahem Del Negro.

pgardn
01-29-2015, 09:41 PM
99 twin towers > all and swept Shaq/Kobe, I still believe that team can give 2001 Lakers competition.

After that DRob was never the same, 00-02 Spurs had aging wings similar to 08-11, Duncan still played Shaq very well, if you look at his stats he was very even against Shaq in 01 and 02. But Spurs had no answer for Kobe until Bowen, Parker and Ginobili came to play.

That 99 team would let guys get to the baseline and then just smother them. Opponents got in deep underneath, leaned out because they were point blank at the rim, and then promptly got their shit packed. That was one hell of a defensive team. I loved how we ran at guys forcing them to face the duo. Then David's back went bad. Never the same player.

tholdren
01-29-2015, 09:58 PM
Yes. Half the fucks on here will sell you the splitter defense shit and say tim tiago...

jsandiego
01-29-2015, 10:22 PM
That 99 team would let guys get to the baseline and then just smother them. Opponents got in deep underneath, leaned out because they were point blank at the rim, and then promptly got their shit packed. That was one hell of a defensive team. I loved how we ran at guys forcing them to face the duo. Then David's back went bad. Never the same player.
It was an amazing feeling to know a game would be close with 3 or 4 minutes to go, knowing the other team would be lucky to get another bucket the rest of the game. Duncan and DRob were amazing.

Doctor J
01-29-2015, 10:56 PM
Elvin Hayes and Wes Unseld (Bullets) and Dave Cowens and Paul Silas (Celtics) in the 70s were really tough defensive front court players too.

Malik Hairston
01-29-2015, 10:58 PM
Those 2000 to 2002 Spurs backcourts were so disgusting, tbh..ugh..

It's a shame that people forget how bad the Spurs' perimeter players were when discussing the Shaq-Kobe Lakers killing the Spurs..

therealtruth
01-30-2015, 12:16 AM
Those 2000 to 2002 Spurs backcourts were so disgusting, tbh..ugh..

It's a shame that people forget how bad the Spurs' perimeter players were when discussing the Shaq-Kobe Lakers killing the Spurs..

If we had decent perimeter help we could have prevented the Lakers dynasty.

Slippy
01-30-2015, 01:03 AM
99 twin-towers was the best .

baseline bum
01-30-2015, 01:12 AM
Those 2000 to 2002 Spurs backcourts were so disgusting, tbh..ugh..

It's a shame that people forget how bad the Spurs' perimeter players were when discussing the Shaq-Kobe Lakers killing the Spurs..

The backcourt was so awful niggas were cumming in their pants over landing Derek Anderson

Malik Hairston
01-30-2015, 01:14 AM
The backcourt was so awful niggas were cumming in their pants over landing Derek Anderson

:lol I used the Derek Anderson "injury excuse" card, too, but I was only 12 years old, so I was a young, biased homer..

baseline bum
01-30-2015, 01:23 AM
:lol I used the Derek Anderson "injury excuse" card, too, but I was only 12 years old, so I was a young, biased homer..

Worst defender the Spurs ever had. I remember Kobe averaged 38PPG on him that season and every opposing shooting guard in the league murdered the Spurs. Even Steve Smith, Vinny Del Negro, Marco Belinelli were far superior defenders.

Sean Cagney
01-30-2015, 01:40 AM
Doesn't say much when Shaq runs a train through those two to a 3peat.

Who was Shaq not running through at the time? He was a one man wrecking crew out there, the most dominant player on the planet at the time and too big to stop. The Spurs threw alot at him and did the best they could and slowed him down at times (Not many) and they were the ones who ended that threepeat run so.... They also were the ones who won and beat them before their threepeat run so they were the only ones to beat LA then. They had their hands full with Shaq but were able to beat them twice.
When Robinson was old and injured and the Spurs were starting guys like Danny Ferry, Jerome Kersey, Antonio Daniels, Steve Smith, and a 19 year-old Tony Parker.
^^^^^ THIS.

Sean Cagney
01-30-2015, 01:44 AM
99 twin towers > all and swept Shaq/Kobe, I still believe that team can give 2001 Lakers competition.

After that DRob was never the same, 00-02 Spurs had aging wings similar to 08-11, Duncan still played Shaq very well, if you look at his stats he was very even against Shaq in 01 and 02. But Spurs had no answer for Kobe until Bowen, Parker and Ginobili came to play.
Duncan went toe to toe everytime in PPG and so on, even had more rebounds if I remember right? He was up there with Shaq in those years dominating, his team around him was just not that great though so they fell short in 01-02. Duncan was going off in games though, I remember one he had around 40 points and 20 some odd rebounds in 02 playoffs against them. He was a MONSTER.

And just imagine if DROB was still in his prime.

That would have been scary.
That 99 team would let guys get to the baseline and then just smother them. Opponents got in deep underneath, leaned out because they were point blank at the rim, and then promptly got their shit packed. That was one hell of a defensive team. I loved how we ran at guys forcing them to face the duo. Then David's back went bad. Never the same player.

That D was so damn sick! It was a sight to see.

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-30-2015, 01:56 AM
When Robinson was old and injured and the Spurs were starting guys like Danny Ferry, Jerome Kersey, Antonio Daniels, Steve Smith, and a 19 year-old Tony Parker.

This.

Robinson was playing the game with slipped discs against a guy in his prime. Shaq could barely move when his body started to break down. I'd like to see DRob go against Shaq today on set at TNT. He's probably still in good enough shape to own O'Neal.

phxspurfan
01-30-2015, 02:04 AM
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dbreiden83080
01-30-2015, 06:36 AM
Doesn't say much when Shaq runs a train through those two to a 3peat.

The offense back then was basically give it to Tim and hope he scores.

TP barely had his drivers license in 2002..

romain.star
01-30-2015, 07:03 AM
:lol I used the Derek Anderson "injury excuse" card, too, but I was only 12 years old, so I was a young, biased homer..

Wait, wait, wait. You are not 16 years old?! Oh shit...

rudwick
01-30-2015, 10:01 AM
Closest I can think of is Wallace, Wallace, Prince of the Pistons.

DMC
01-30-2015, 10:15 AM
Tell me who hit the big shots? Got the big steal? hell even the big rebound and certainly the free throws that count.
Shaq averaged almost 30pts 15rbs a game during the threepeat playoffs. No one does that these days, may never do it again. There's no "big steal" in a game otherwise.

During the 00 ring, Kobe averaged 21 a game in the playoffs. He was no slouch, and the next two years he'd up that average. In 03, he led all scorers with 32 a game, but lost. That's what happens when you go away from the most unstoppable force since Wilt.

DMC
01-30-2015, 10:21 AM
It doesn't matter who was injured or when. You're either the best frontcourt or you aren't. If you won the ring, you probably were.

Drom John
01-30-2015, 10:23 AM
IMO opinion, the best pair was Wes Unseld and Elvin Hayes, with Moses Malone and Caldwell Jones a close second.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-30-2015, 10:29 AM
Maybe Sampson and Olajuwon

hater
01-30-2015, 10:38 AM
Ben & Sheeddy tbh

Horse
01-30-2015, 01:36 PM
I see ben Wallace like ibaka more of a help defender they were great but I'll take the Towers.

Horse
01-30-2015, 01:38 PM
Maybe Sampson and Olajuwon

I think TD or DROB were as good as Olajuwon and better than Sampson.

mkurts
01-30-2015, 10:26 PM
No the Twin Towers are the best

james evans
01-31-2015, 06:33 PM
Doesn't say much when Shaq runs a train through those two to a 3peat.
the lakers didn't beat us in 2000. wtf..just in 01 and 02 and by then robinson was n his way out.

james evans
01-31-2015, 06:34 PM
I think TD or DROB were as good as Olajuwon and better than Sampson.
neither duncan or robinson were better than olojuwon. don't play yourself.

hitmantb
01-31-2015, 07:20 PM
neither duncan or robinson were better than olojuwon. don't play yourself.

I would take 2003 Duncan over 1995 Olajuwon, took a worse team than the 95 rockets to the title over Shaq/Kobe Lakers.

Near end of prime Robinson/2nd year Duncan > 3rd year Samson/2nd year Olajuwon.

velik_m
01-31-2015, 07:59 PM
If i remember correctly, statistically Duncan - Rasho duo was better defensively

james evans
01-31-2015, 10:15 PM
I would take 2003 Duncan over 1995 Olajuwon, took a worse team than the 95 rockets to the title over Shaq/Kobe Lakers.

Near end of prime Robinson/2nd year Duncan > 3rd year Samson/2nd year Olajuwon.
but the league as a whole was worse. We beat the nets in the finals. The nets are one of the worst teams to ever make the nba finals. Kobe and shaq fueding is what helped us that series too. And Horry missing that wide open 3 at the end of game 5.

Horse
01-31-2015, 10:31 PM
but the league as a whole was worse. We beat the nets in the finals. The nets are one of the worst teams to ever make the nba finals. Kobe and shaq fueding is what helped us that series too. And Horry missing that wide open 3 at the end of game 5.
We won game 6 by what 28? We didn't need any help.

james evans
01-31-2015, 11:14 PM
We won game 6 by what 28? We didn't need any help.
i know that, but if horry wins game 5, and we win game 6, who knows what happens in game 7. i'm just saying. the league wasn't the best it has been. the lakers were a dominant team and that was a great series win, but do u really believe we beat better teams than houston did that year?

Horse
01-31-2015, 11:38 PM
i know that, but if horry wins game 5, and we win game 6, who knows what happens in game 7. i'm just saying. the league wasn't the best it has been. the lakers were a dominant team and that was a great series win, but do u really believe we beat better teams than houston did that year?
That laker team. Other that them no.

SanAntonioSpurs23
02-01-2015, 01:14 AM
Ben and #NeedforSheed?

Ice009
02-01-2015, 08:41 PM
The Spurs did better than anyone else on a Prime Shaq, so I don't know what the fuck a lot of people here are talking about. I thought the Spurs held down a dominant Shaq pretty well. It was Kobe that went off on our perimeter players that was the difference. Spurs did a very good job on Shaq who was really dominant back then.