Teen gunned down in police station [Archive]

cantthinkofanything

01-29-2015, 01:25 PM

I must not have been watching the news that day. It surely would have made headlines. Right Trill?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1796986/kristiana-coingard-video/

~O~

01-29-2015, 01:42 PM

They didn't have to shoot her. They should have just tased her again and arrested her. Simple as that. In fact, it should have been done the first time.

ChumpDumper

01-29-2015, 01:58 PM

That's pathetic. There is no way to justify this.

Trill Clinton

01-29-2015, 02:01 PM

cantthinkofanything

01-29-2015, 02:11 PM

i didn't know i had control over what gets covered in the mainstream media. anyways, a young lady was murdered and instead of showing empathy, you try to prove some shallow point, sad.

i've known about this for days, posted in a 10 page thread about her and jessica hernandez(look her up) in another forum. but y'all go again and do your usual victim blaming and call this young lady a thug who shouldn't have resisted and deserved to die.

What point did I try to prove? I was just asking for your thoughts. I didn't see any other thread you posted as I don't follow you around. I just saw this story today and thought I'd make a thread also.
So maybe instead of getting all cray cray, you can either just provide some thoughts or not post. You and Avante...always making things about yourselves.
http://ist1-1.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/6/0/7/5/60752/1/1/d/p/11dp1/smh.gif

Cry Havoc

01-29-2015, 02:53 PM

Inb4 sbm comes in to defend the police for "just doing their job".

Oh wait. :lol

Seriously though, that's fucked up. But I doubt anything happens to the cops. I hope none of them sleep at night for a fucking year, but I doubt they have a conscience so they'll probably be fine and feel like heroes for being so brave in ending a teen's life.

Cry Havoc

01-29-2015, 02:54 PM

What point did I try to prove? I was just asking for your thoughts. I didn't see any other thread you posted as I don't follow you around. I just saw this story today and thought I'd make a thread also.
So maybe instead of getting all cray cray, you can either just provide some thoughts or not post. You and Avante...always making things about yourselves.
http://ist1-1.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/6/0/7/5/60752/1/1/d/p/11dp1/smh.gif

He's just a troll who's terrible at trolling. Ignore and move on. :lol

TheSanityAnnex

01-29-2015, 03:01 PM

If you walk into a police station with a butcher knife and charge at cops with their guns drawn chances are pretty damn good they'll shoot you.

ChumpDumper

01-29-2015, 03:06 PM

Cop had her completely subdued face down on the floor. Cuff her then and it's over.

Infinite_limit

01-29-2015, 03:09 PM

They have no idea if she is strapped with a bomb. Once the threat is targeted, you take it down ASAP

ChumpDumper

01-29-2015, 03:11 PM

They have no idea if she is strapped with a bomb. Once the threat is targeted, you take it down ASAPShe was already down.

TheSanityAnnex

01-29-2015, 03:15 PM

Cop had her completely subdued face down on the floor. Cuff her then and it's over.
Yeah not sure why he didn't cuff her then. She got what she wanted though.

SnakeBoy

01-29-2015, 03:16 PM

Upsetting that a disturbed young lady in need of help gets gunned down like that.

Pauly D

01-29-2015, 03:19 PM

>that creepy moment you realize you've stood right there in that line to pay for speeding tickets

town I lived most of my life and the same HS. What's most annoying as fuck is everyone on FB liking the "I support Longview Police Department" page. The blind support is nauseating. There's a lot to think about. They're both morons. He HAD her down. If it weren't for that then I'd be all in on the "SUPPORT LPD!!!!" bandwagon. Then, did she actually have a knife in her hand at the end? If so, fuck her, she wanted to die. If not, fuck those lazy grown men cops. He already had shown how easy it was to throw her ass down.

basically, I gotta hear why he let her back up and if she was holding a weapon at the end

m>s

01-29-2015, 03:21 PM

What's the race of the victim?

Pauly D

01-29-2015, 03:21 PM

here we go in here now. These are the important questions. Why does everyone have to jump to a side?

basically, I gotta hear why he let her back up and if she was holding a weapon at the end

Pauly D

01-29-2015, 03:23 PM

What's the race of the victim?

cute, kinda gothy, white girl

look her up on fb

SnakeBoy

01-29-2015, 03:24 PM

What's the race of the victim?

Young white girl reaching out for help.

m>s

01-29-2015, 03:28 PM

This is a travesty, you're not supposed to shoot the white kids..

TheSanityAnnex

01-29-2015, 03:28 PM

Young white girl reaching out for help.
If you're going to reach out for help, always reach with a butcher knife in hand.

spurraider21

01-29-2015, 04:37 PM

A) if the police identified her as enough of a threat to take her down, there's no excuse to not cuff or restrain her further. If they thought she was dangerous and had claimed to have a gun, why would you let her back up?

B) afterwards, she charged at an officer with a butcher knife. The result of which was obvious and justified.

Question A is the only thing at issue here, and the cop should face some sort of departmental criticism or even being fired (for allowing a potential threat to get back up after being restrained). If he had trouble cuffling her, he could have pinned her down until others arrived

SnakeBoy

01-29-2015, 04:39 PM

Franklin

01-29-2015, 08:34 PM

surprise it happened in Texas, not Flolrida.

Pauly D

01-29-2015, 09:34 PM

She probably said "I can't breathe".

I know you're joking but even if she did say something to that effect, you don't just fucking step AWAY from her. It's like the cop was just a regular guy that owns her then steps back to give her a chance to think about it cause he doesn't wanna keep fighting.

DMC

01-30-2015, 12:32 AM

Suicide by cop

RandomGuy

01-30-2015, 07:52 AM

I must not have been watching the news that day. It surely would have made headlines. Right Trill?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1796986/kristiana-coingard-video/

Seemed pretty unnecessary to me. OTH, charging someone pointing a gun at you... not really overly sane/smart. That is the kind of thing that would tend to make adrenaline decisions.

RandomGuy

01-30-2015, 07:55 AM

I would point out that SA PD has a good training program and a special unit for handling mentally ill.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/08/19/338895262/mental-health-cops-help-reweave-social-safety-net-in-san-antonio

Time to raise taxes to pay for more training. The more training we give police.. the safer everybody is.

RandomGuy

01-30-2015, 07:59 AM

cantthinkofanything

01-30-2015, 08:20 AM

I also count five minutes before any medical help is applied.At some point, the cops might have tried to stop the bleeding. Direct pressure and a bandage, although with four close range wounds, I would not think that would help much.I guess cops are as watered down as the rest of society. Unfortunately, a bunch of unremarkable people having to sometimes do remarkable things.

vander

01-30-2015, 09:16 AM

Suicide by cop
yeah, sure seems like it

also, that Glenn Derr
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/news-journal.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/35/135c4b9a-a73b-11e4-a947-cb631df8fee3/54c95f8091702.image.jpg
sure looks the part

In my opinion resorting to gunfire there shows weakness and incompetence. He should probably be relieved of these duties that are beyond his ability

DMC

01-30-2015, 10:01 AM

Guilty of not restraining the person, but the person made the choice to suicide by cop. When does the responsibility fall on the attacker? Ever?

spurraider21

01-30-2015, 12:15 PM

Guilty of not restraining the person, but the person made the choice to suicide by cop. When does the responsibility fall on the attacker? Ever?

StrengthAndHonor

01-30-2015, 12:24 PM

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Kristiana-Coignard-video-police.jpg

Such a threat

RandomGuy

01-30-2015, 12:47 PM

I guess cops are as watered down as the rest of society. Unfortunately, a bunch of unremarkable people having to sometimes do remarkable things.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1210562!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/deprimo-homeless.jpg

I agree. A difficult job by any stretch, and this kind of picture (cop buying shoes for mentally ill homeless man)makes me mindful of not making sweeping "catchall" statements.

cantthinkofanything

01-30-2015, 01:07 PM

I agree. A difficult job by any stretch, and this kind of picture (cop buying shoes for mentally ill homeless man)makes me mindful of not making sweeping "catchall" statements.

Right...and I'm definitely not anti-cop. Lots of good ones. But also, it's one of those jobs that a power hungry mental midget can get. As with any job, there are good and bad ones. Obvious difference here is that they get a gun.

TheSanityAnnex

01-30-2015, 02:02 PM

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Kristiana-Coignard-video-police.jpg

Such a threat

Such a horrible take, as if one's looks have any bearing on how dangerous they are with a butcher knife in hand.

Ever seen pictures of Esmie Kay Tseng?

http://murderpedia.org/female.T/t/tseng-esmie-photos.htm

Cry Havoc

01-30-2015, 02:29 PM

Such a horrible take, as if one's looks have any bearing on how dangerous they are with a butcher knife in hand.

Ever seen pictures of Esmie Kay Tseng?

http://murderpedia.org/female.T/t/tseng-esmie-photos.htm

Why the FUCK would you let someone stand up if they're fully restrained and holding a butcher's knife? Or ANY weapon?

This makes no sense. They shot her because she had a knife, but AFTER they had her completely pinned and unable to pose a threat.

cantthinkofanything

01-30-2015, 02:52 PM

Such a horrible take, as if one's looks have any bearing on how dangerous they are with a butcher knife in hand.

Ever seen pictures of Esmie Kay Tseng?

http://murderpedia.org/female.T/t/tseng-esmie-photos.htm

this was to make your point???

http://murderpedia.org/female.T/images/tseng-esmie/esmie-tseng-5.jpg

TheSanityAnnex

01-30-2015, 03:16 PM

Why the FUCK would you let someone stand up if they're fully restrained and holding a butcher's knife? Or ANY weapon?

This makes no sense. They shot her because she had a knife, but AFTER they had her completely pinned and unable to pose a threat.
I already questioned why he let her back up after taking her down, very stupid move. I'm guessing though the cop did not know she had a knife until he let her back up. My point was about posting a picture and saying a threat can be determined by looks.

TheSanityAnnex

01-30-2015, 03:18 PM

this was to make your point???

http://murderpedia.org/female.T/images/tseng-esmie/esmie-tseng-5.jpg
Would smash

TheSanityAnnex

01-30-2015, 03:19 PM

this was to make your point???

http://murderpedia.org/female.T/images/tseng-esmie/esmie-tseng-5.jpg
Bad photoshop

Cry Havoc

01-30-2015, 04:09 PM

HncwGDTNsxo

TWO cops vs. one PROFESSIONAL MMA fighter with a knife.

TheSanityAnnex

01-30-2015, 07:11 PM

HncwGDTNsxo

TWO cops vs. one PROFESSIONAL MMA fighter with a knife.

What is this video supposed to prove? The two situations are completely different :lol

The MMA guy wasn't wielding a knife to begin with, had he been there is no way the officers go and try and tackle him. And did you notice the officer in grey was stabbed in the back almost instantly?

Concerning the OP, I've already said it was a very poor decision to let her off the ground, having moved past that point we are now faced with an armed person with a large knife charging an officer. People who think knifes are not dangerous are incredibly naive, especially at the close distance she was to the officer.

Martial arts article detailing the old 21 foot rule, both positives and negatives.

http://www.usadojo.com/articles/21-feet-valid.htm

21 foot rule demonstrated

J_KJ1R2PCMM

RandomGuy

01-30-2015, 08:59 PM

Right...and I'm definitely not anti-cop. Lots of good ones. But also, it's one of those jobs that a power hungry mental midget can get. As with any job, there are good and bad ones. Obvious difference here is that they get a gun.

Eyup. With great power comes great responsibility. Yeah, I went there.

RandomGuy

01-30-2015, 09:04 PM

What is this video supposed to prove? The two situations are completely different :lol

The MMA guy wasn't wielding a knife to begin with, had he been there is no way the officers go and try and tackle him. And did you notice the officer in grey was stabbed in the back almost instantly?

Concerning the OP, I've already said it was a very poor decision to let her off the ground, having moved past that point we are now faced with an armed person with a large knife charging an officer. People who think knifes are not dangerous are incredibly naive, especially at the close distance she was to the officer.

Martial arts article detailing the old 21 foot rule, both positives and negatives.

http://www.usadojo.com/articles/21-feet-valid.htm

21 foot rule demonstrated

J_KJ1R2PCMM

that was very interesting, and informative. Thanks. Always neat to learn something new.

DMC

01-30-2015, 10:04 PM

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Kristiana-Coignard-video-police.jpg

Such a threat
http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photos/notorious_murders/young/alyssa_bustamante/alyssa-bustamante-14-fb.jpg

Such a threat

SupremeGuy

01-31-2015, 08:01 AM

Evil Nazi cops just wanted to kill another innocent teen, tbh. She's resting in heaven with the other angels; tvon and little mikey brown. :cry

They were probably talking about it all day, "I really fucking hope some dumb bitch charges at me with a knife, cause I'll show her." I fucking hate cops. Why can't they just disarm her with their advanced martial arts? I've seen movies, a lot of them, so I know it can be done.