Enrique...

[Calispursfan11]

http://topnews.in/light/files/Tony-Parker_1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee136/suwarnaadi/hair/EnriqueIglesiasBangsHairstyle.jpg

Come on now. They look nothing alike. Who came up with this stupid nickname for one of the best point guards to ever step on the floor?

[ElNono]

koJlIGDImiU

[dabom]

I don't think that's why they call him enrique. :lmao

[dabom]

Maybe you just trolling us. :lmao

[Calispursfan11]

koJlIGDImiU

:lol

[Calispursfan11]

koJlIGDImiU

Hero Ball (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hero+Ball&defid=6587107) (from Urban Dictionary)
A style of basketball played by a person with average or mediocre talent who nonetheless believes he is the second coming of Michael Jordan. It involves lots of ball-hogging, mindless spinning and jumping, and taking a bunch of highly contested fadeaway jumpers that almost never go in.
Oh great, looks like fat Lenny has decided to play hero ball now that he's in the game.

[ElNono]

:lol didn't know it was actually on Urban Dictionary

[Calispursfan11]

:lol didn't know it was actually on Urban Dictionary

I know, I just found it now :lmao Awesome!

[Calispursfan11]

Enrique is my hero


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ3g37mKTOM

[ElNono]

Nice one parker. ... dribble dribble


dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble


dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble


Nice dribbling Enrique.


Need more Parker dribbling and isos tbh.


Dribble bribble


16 seconds on the shot clock....

Parker...dribble....dribble....dribble.....launch a hero three.


and he does dribble dribble again ugh


Too much dribbling there TP

:lol

[Calispursfan11]

:lol

Based on the video, he passed at least twice in 2012-2013.

[lefty]

TP looks like a black George Clooney tbh

[spurraider21]

original thread title

[Clipper Nation]

Based on the video, he passed at least twice in 2012-2013.

A career high! No wonder he was called MVParker back then. :downspin:

[Mikeanaro]

He is such a fucking idiot.

[Calispursfan11]

Enrique FTW tbh. Like Pippen, his positive contributions simply do not show up in the stats or advanced stats.

[Calispursfan11]

Oh shit, clutch 3 again! I http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130401174456/anime-arts/images/5/5f/Small_heart.gif Enrique! One of the greatest ever.

[hater]

:lol MVParker taking a wet shit on the short bus

[hater]

http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/1418450360/2012/10/1418450360_1878656683001_ari-origin29-arc-131-1349384506761.jpg

:lol

[Calispursfan11]

http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/1418450360/2012/10/1418450360_1878656683001_ari-origin29-arc-131-1349384506761.jpg

:lol

:toast

[Calispursfan11]

TP looks like a black George Clooney tbh


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b1/63/34/b16334baac0d28eb00b44c397800003b.jpg

http://www.celebritycarz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Tony-Parker-72112208.jpeg

A little bit

[mkurts]

Enrique FTW tbh. Like Pippen, his positive contributions simply do not show up in the stats or advanced stats.

If his contributions showed up any more than it has, the team would be looking at the lottery.

Duncan should not have to carry Porky's younger loser ass just so he can swipe more money to play for 'loyalty' via a fat extension

[Sean Cagney]

Enrique FTW tbh. Like Pippen, his positive contributions simply do not show up in the stats or advanced stats.

Pippen was all around great, on D he was VERY good and he could rebound as well. They are nothing alike, Parker at his best was pure scoring in the lane with his speed.

[Clipper Nation]

Oh shit, clutch 3 again! I http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130401174456/anime-arts/images/5/5f/Small_heart.gif Enrique! One of the greatest ever.

:lol Enrique was the sole reason why a clutch 3 was necessary to beat this Magic team.

[Mikeanaro]

http://www.vox.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Michael-Jackson.jpg
http://photo.europe1.fr/sport/multisports/tony-parker-930x6202/20475885-1-fre-FR/Tony-Parker-930x620_scalewidth_630.jpg

[Floyd Pacquiao]

15 points on 15 shots. Sad.....

[Calispursfan11]

You guys are not true fans. No support for the guy who has come off injury and played nonstop for 10 years and been instrumental in every championship run he's been involved in. He's clearly better than Mills or Cojo as the starter and he's just getting started this year. He will round into form with the Rodeo Road Trip. You guys need to get a grip and leave Enrique alone!

[Ditty]

The nickname was pretty funny for about two months last season. It's pretty annoying now fwiw.

[Leetonidas]

I'm one of the biggest Parker fans on this site but it's hard for even me to watch him right now :depressed holding out hope that he is just coasting and can turn it up in the playoffs but I was waiting for that last season as well...

[100%duncan]

I'm one of the biggest Parker fans on this site but it's hard for even me to watch him right now :depressed holding out hope that he is just coasting and can turn it up in the playoffs but I was waiting for that last season as well...

Same. I miss mvparker

[Calispursfan11]

I hear something. It's the sound of Enrique kicking ass!

[hater]

looking good tonight :tu

[Calispursfan11]

looking good tonight :tu

Leonard and Parker playing out of their minds tbh :toast

[hater]

Leonard and Parker playing out of their minds tbh :toast

Jordan and Pippen tonight tbh :tu

[hater]

:lol shortbus

http://matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/public/sites/625/assets/JTKT_WEB_bus_crash.JPG

[Aztecfan03]

:lol didn't know it was actually on Urban Dictionary

I would be surprised if someone from spurstalk hasn't posted it on there with Parjer as the example.

[Calispursfan11]

:lol shortbus

http://matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/public/sites/625/assets/JTKT_WEB_bus_crash.JPG

Special Spurfans are special :lol

[Hoops Czar]

I would be surprised if someone from spurstalk hasn't posted it on there with Parjer as the example.

Spurstalk is in the urban dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spurstalk

[Aztecfan03]

Spurstalk is in the urban dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spurstalk

I really hope it was sbm that posted that especially considering this part: "If you get banned from here, you are a real clueless fuck"

[hater]

Spurstalk is in the urban dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spurstalk

so are manutards :lmao

"When manutards die, even hell will not take them for fear they'll fuck things up."

[ElNono]

Spurstalk is in the urban dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spurstalk

lol salty faggot (whoever added that entry)

[Calispursfan11]

Enrique says...

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/abr.gif

[lefty]

1 good regular season game


:lol it was about time



:lol regular season though

[Aztecfan03]

:lol regular season though

It's not like he can have a good postseason game in the middle of the season.

[apalisoc_9]

1 good regular season game


:lol it was about time



:lol regular season though

:lol

[hater]

:lol shortbus

[hater]

It's not like he can have a good postseason game in the middle of the season.

:lmao

[FkLA]

2 months of shit play: Leave Enrique alone!! :madrun

1 good game vs a bad, undermanned team: MVParker is back!! Enrique just took a shit on ST! :lobt2:

-Enrique fanboys

[hater]

:lol damage control from short bussers :lol

[lefty]

It's not like he can have a good postseason game anymore
FIFY

[KL2]

Miami has some of the worst defensive PG's in the league, all guys were ranked 45 and up out of all 80 PG's before today's game.

Napier is 170lbs, one of the smallest and weakest PG's in the NBA. Parker was able to back him down over and over again because of this, allowing him to create for others as well as score with ease.

Against a much bigger PG, or SG these opportunities will not be there, it is basically fools gold.

Parker has always relied on speed and the Spurs' system to get him plays, not his size. He needs to create separation through his speed, not through bodily contact because he's not going to be playing against such light guys in the playoffs.

I'm starting to notice just how long it's taking to get Parker to score, and that's why the Spurs struggle so much. He's dribbling late into the shot clock and the Spurs are trying to get him going at the expense of everyone else, by the time he passes it it's around 10 secs in and they rush up a low % shot.

[hater]

:lol pulling out all the logins available to damage control :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

Spurstalk is in the urban dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spurstalk

Whoever did that forgot to mention the excessive use of tbh, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

Miami has some of the worst defensive PG's in the league, all guys were ranked 45 and up out of all 80 PG's before today's game.

Napier is 170lbs, one of the smallest and weakest PG's in the NBA. Parker was able to back him down over and over again because of this, allowing him to create for others as well as score with ease.

Against a much bigger PG, or SG these opportunities will not be there, it is basically fools gold.

Parker has always relied on speed and the Spurs' system to get him plays, not his size. He needs to create separation through his speed, not through bodily contact because he's not going to be playing against such light guys in the playoffs.

I'm starting to notice just how long it's taking to get Parker to score, and that's why the Spurs struggle so much. He's dribbling late into the shot clock and the Spurs are trying to get him going at the expense of everyone else, by the time he passes it it's around 10 secs in and they rush up a low % shot.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7n9xtvJ9K1qi4uu3.gif

The short bus will ignore these facts, though.

[Aztecfan03]

Whoever did that forgot to mention the excessive use of tbh, tbh.

I don't think tbh was prevalent here at the time it was posted.

[Aztecfan03]

:lol pulling out all the logins available to damage control :lmao

KL2 certainly sounds like harlem.

[spurraider21]

so are manutards :lmao

"When manutards die, even hell will not take them for fear they'll fuck things up."
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=manutards

[KL2]

KL2 certainly sounds like harlem.

Sometimes I do lol. But it's because we're seeing the same thing, the truth is the truth and it can be observed if you apply logic to it.

[Calispursfan11]

Enrique says...

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/abr.gif

[Splits]

MVParker is baaaccckkkk.... 21 points on 12 shots, amazing defense..... :lol NBA is fucked

[DarrinS]

MVParker is baaaccckkkk.... 21 points on 12 shots, amazing defense..... :lol NBA is fucked


Yes, he shut down Shabazz Napier. He got only 4 pts instead of his average 5 pts. :lol

That being said, TP did have an efficient night at the offensive end, but the bar was set pretty low. TP has a really good 3pt shot, but he's more likely to get that look working away from the ball.

[EVAY]

TP has a really good 3pt shot, but he's more likely to get that look working away from the ball.

Duh!

This offense is set to have the driving or cutting offensive player draw the defense to him in the paint, leaving our perimeter players open for clear three point shots. When either our 1 or 2 position player is not the one driving the lane, his job is to position himself along the perimeter to be able to take the open three as the defense collapses in the paint. Definitionally, the person taking the three has not been the one with ball.

Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.

Tonight, Tony's drives to the basket were the most successful of the season for two reasons: the first reason is that Baynes was doing the work that Splitter did last year so well and has not done this year well at all, which is screen the paint defenders away from the driving guard. That makes it much easier for the guard not only to get to the rim without a turnover, it makes scoring at the rim without the ball getting blocked or altered ENORMOUSLY easier. The second reason is that Parker was faster and more aggressive early in the shot clock than he has been of late. As Parker said after the game, he is getting his game back 'in baby steps'.

The only real true 'three point' specialists on our team who can actually take the three pointer off the dribble are Danny and Marco. Everyone else on our team tends to get their threes from the offensive set.

What struck me last night was that we were much more successful with Leonard staying in his 'traditional' role of a spot up three point player within the offensive 'penetrate and kick' scheme of things. I don't know if we will be overly successful with the things they have been trying so much of this season, i.e. having Leonard post up players or go iso. The latter approach has clearly been difficult for the other starters to adjust to (it always looks like they don't know where to be on the court exactly when Leonard is going iso) so far, and I don't know if Pop is going to stick with the experiment so as to put more pressure on Kawhi to 'carry the team' offensively, or if he is going to go back to what has been so successful and hope that Kawhi is happy enough within that scheme.

In any event, Miami's defensive philosophy works to our strengths. Most Western teams don't allow that level of penetration and kick-out anymore because they are picking off our passes and denying the rim. Maybe Baynes working with the first team will help against the West teams. Don't know yet.

[dabom]

Duh!

This offense is set to have the driving or cutting offensive player draw the defense to him in the paint, leaving our perimeter players open for clear three point shots. When either our 1 or 2 position player is not the one driving the lane, his job is to position himself along the perimeter to be able to take the open three as the defense collapses in the paint. Definitionally, the person taking the three has not been the one with ball.

Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.

Tonight, Tony's drives to the basket were the most successful of the season for two reasons: the first reason is that Baynes was doing the work that Splitter did last year so well and has not done this year well at all, which is screen the paint defenders away from the driving guard. That makes it much easier for the guard not only to get to the rim without a turnover, it makes scoring at the rim without the ball getting blocked or altered ENORMOUSLY easier. The second reason is that Parker was faster and more aggressive early in the shot clock than he has been of late. As Parker said after the game, he is getting his game back 'in baby steps'.

The only real true 'three point' specialists on our team who can actually take the three pointer off the dribble are Danny and Marco. Everyone else on our team tends to get their threes from the offensive set.

What struck me last night was that we were much more successful with Leonard staying in his 'traditional' role of a spot up three point player within the offensive 'penetrate and kick' scheme of things. I don't know if we will be overly successful with the things they have been trying so much of this season, i.e. having Leonard post up players or go iso. The latter approach has clearly been difficult for the other starters to adjust to (it always looks like they don't know where to be on the court exactly when Leonard is going iso) so far, and I don't know if Pop is going to stick with the experiment so as to put more pressure on Kawhi to 'carry the team' offensively, or if he is going to go back to what has been so successful and hope that Kawhi is happy enough within that scheme.

In any event, Miami's defensive philosophy works to our strengths. Most Western teams don't allow that level of penetration and kick-out anymore because they are picking off our passes and denying the rim. Maybe Baynes working with the first team will help against the West teams. Don't know yet.

You said a whole lot of nothing really, especially your Kawhi part. :td

[apalisoc_9]

Yes, he shut down Shabazz Napier. He got only 4 pts instead of his average 5 pts. :lol

That being said, TP did have an efficient night at the offensive end, but the bar was set pretty low. TP has a really good 3pt shot, but he's more likely to get that look working away from the ball.

:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

You said a whole lot of nothing really, especially your Kawhi part. :td

EVAY is a mainstream fan with the most vanilla cliche takes...I wouldn't take him seriously if were you.

[EVAY]

You said a whole lot of nothing really, especially your Kawhi part. :td

You are free to have and express your opinion, however mis-guided or intellectually barren it may be.:tu

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.


The only real true 'three point' specialists on our team who can actually take the three pointer off the dribble are Danny and Marco. Everyone else on our team tends to get their threes from the offensive set.

:lmao

[jeebus]

koJlIGDImiU
tbh I'll take credit for starting that one. I remember posting that vid when he was still only known as heroball :cry

[dabom]

:lmao

I swear that dude is a moron. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Jeebus posted the Video but TDMVPDPOY started the namecalling..

I made a huge thread about Enrique and that probably cemented the enrique name.

[ChumpDumper]

lol hipstering the stupid nickname

That's some pathetic shit right there.

[KL2]

Duh!

This offense is set to have the driving or cutting offensive player draw the defense to him in the paint, leaving our perimeter players open for clear three point shots. When either our 1 or 2 position player is not the one driving the lane, his job is to position himself along the perimeter to be able to take the open three as the defense collapses in the paint. Definitionally, the person taking the three has not been the one with ball.

Yes, and it has failed time and time again with Parker at the helm. The Spurs have always been an average team at best even when it's working at 100% lmao. It got us plenty of regular season wins, and a shit load of playoff failures. It took Manu/Diaw running point to unlock this offense's true potential last year.

Parker takes too long to create, and his court vision is far too limited for this team period. This used to work great when we didn't have such a talented offensive roster.

Freeing up Parker can take upwards of 5 secs. running him off numerous screens, once TP gets the ball, another 5 secs trying to break down the defense. If he fails to break down the defense, chances are he'll bring it back out and try again (Thus you get the dribble dribble dribble). Meanwhile he's completely taken his teammates out of the game offensively, they are not playing as a team, this is not what won them championships. This even affects them even defensively because teams play best on both sides of the ball as an actual team. They're just there, standing around forced to watch Parker.

In the playoffs this pretty much means death against most teams with a shot blocker and above average defense (OKC). By packing the paint it closes off many lanes for Parker, reducing the amount of defensive attention he gets, many times he's challenging them 1v1 at the rim, but can't get his shot off. Because they're able to easily challenge Parker they can close out on the 3pt shooters running them off the line, neutralizing the Spurs' 3pt game. Parker has a history of choking around shot blockers.

Suddenly that formula you were using in the regular season is no longer working in the playoffs. The regular season does not=Playoffs at all.

Now, this works with Manu/Diaw because they've got size and much better court vision. Parker has always relied on the system to get him most of his assists, corner 3's and Duncan pick and rolls/post, probably make up 90% of his career assists. Parker can only create what is already there, Diaw/Manu can create plays with their passing that are NOT there. Start paying attention to just how basic Parker's passes are, anybody can replicate them, he relies on the system to create for him.




Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.

Tonight, Tony's drives to the basket were the most successful of the season for two reasons: the first reason is that Baynes was doing the work that Splitter did last year so well and has not done this year well at all, which is screen the paint defenders away from the driving guard. That makes it much easier for the guard not only to get to the rim without a turnover, it makes scoring at the rim without the ball getting blocked or altered ENORMOUSLY easier. The second reason is that Parker was faster and more aggressive early in the shot clock than he has been of late. As Parker said after the game, he is getting his game back 'in baby steps'.

The only real true 'three point' specialists on our team who can actually take the three pointer off the dribble are Danny and Marco. Everyone else on our team tends to get their threes from the offensive set.

What struck me last night was that we were much more successful with Leonard staying in his 'traditional' role of a spot up three point player within the offensive 'penetrate and kick' scheme of things. I don't know if we will be overly successful with the things they have been trying so much of this season, i.e. having Leonard post up players or go iso. The latter approach has clearly been difficult for the other starters to adjust to (it always looks like they don't know where to be on the court exactly when Leonard is going iso) so far, and I don't know if Pop is going to stick with the experiment so as to put more pressure on Kawhi to 'carry the team' offensively, or if he is going to go back to what has been so successful and hope that Kawhi is happy enough within that scheme.

In any event, Miami's defensive philosophy works to our strengths. Most Western teams don't allow that level of penetration and kick-out anymore because they are picking off our passes and denying the rim. Maybe Baynes working with the first team will help against the West teams. Don't know yet.


90% of Parker's scoring came against Napier.

http://www.nba.com/games/20150206/MIASAS/gameinfo.html?ls=slt


Napier is just 170lbs, and because of this Parker was able to create bodily separation. He was backing him down getting great position in the paint, allowing him to create for others with the defensive attention he drew. On his drives to the rim Napier would easily get picked off by screens (just way too light), or he'd get bumped off by Parker because he was too small.

Creating separation in the NBA is what separates the scrubs from the elite offensive players, which many people don't know. Separation can be achieved a handful of ways.

Parker relies on speed and play calling to create separation for himself, other guys use dribbling/ball handling/fakes, others bodily contact. Parker does not rely on bodily contact, which he used to excel in this game. His jumpers are usually off some sort of screen (separation created by play calling), his drives to the rim (play calling and speed).

[Mikeanaro]

Yes, and it has failed time and time again with Parker at the helm. The Spurs have always been an average team at best even when it's working at 100% lmao. It got us plenty of regular season wins, and a shit load of playoff failures. It took Manu/Diaw running point to unlock this offense's true potential last year.

Parker takes too long to create, and his court vision is far too limited for this team period. This used to work great when we didn't have such a talented offensive roster.

Freeing up Parker can take upwards of 5 secs. running him off numerous screens, once TP gets the ball, another 5 secs trying to break down the defense. If he fails to break down the defense, chances are he'll bring it back out and try again (Thus you get the dribble dribble dribble). Meanwhile he's completely taken his teammates out of the game offensively, they are not playing as a team, this is not what won them championships. This even affects them even defensively because teams play best on both sides of the ball as an actual team. They're just there, standing around forced to watch Parker.

In the playoffs this pretty much means death against most teams with a shot blocker and above average defense (OKC). By packing the paint it closes off many lanes for Parker, reducing the amount of defensive attention he gets, many times he's challenging them 1v1 at the rim, but can't get his shot off. Because they're able to easily challenge Parker they can close out on the 3pt shooters running them off the line, neutralizing the Spurs' 3pt game. Parker has a history of choking around shot blockers.

Suddenly that formula you were using in the regular season is no longer working in the playoffs. The regular season does not=Playoffs at all.

Now, this works with Manu/Diaw because they've got size and much better court vision. Parker has always relied on the system to get him most of his assists, corner 3's and Duncan pick and rolls/post, probably make up 90% of his career assists. Parker can only create what is already there, Diaw/Manu can create plays with their passing that are NOT there. Start paying attention to just how basic Parker's passes are, anybody can replicate them, he relies on the system to create for him.






90% of Parker's scoring came against Napier.

http://www.nba.com/games/20150206/MIASAS/gameinfo.html?ls=slt


Napier is just 170lbs, and because of this Parker was able to create bodily separation. He was backing him down getting great position in the paint, allowing him to create for others with the defensive attention he drew. On his drives to the rim Napier would easily get picked off by screens (just way too light), or he'd get bumped off by Parker because he was too small.

Creating separation in the NBA is what separates the scrubs from the elite offensive players, which many people don't know. Separation can be achieved a handful of ways.

Parker relies on speed and play calling to create separation for himself, other guys use dribbling/ball handling/fakes, others bodily contact. Parker does not rely on bodily contact, which he used to excel in this game. His jumpers are usually off some sort of screen (separation created by play calling), his drives to the rim (play calling and speed).
Pretty much, I hate every Porker possession it takes too many seconds and every time I look to the opposite teams they have plety of time to make plays.
He hurts the team the numbers dont lie is that so hard to see?

[DarrinS]

Were there any assists from Parker to Kawhi?

http://www.nba.com/games/20150206/MIASAS/gameinfo.html?ls=slt

Look at play-by-play

[DarrinS]

Duh!

This offense is set to have the driving or cutting offensive player draw the defense to him in the paint, leaving our perimeter players open for clear three point shots. When either our 1 or 2 position player is not the one driving the lane, his job is to position himself along the perimeter to be able to take the open three as the defense collapses in the paint. Definitionally, the person taking the three has not been the one with ball.

Kawhi had a career high 5 three pointers tonight. That is because Tony's penetration into the paint, combined with Miami's 'swarm the ball handler' defensive strategy, is perfect for the inside-out game that the Spurs' offense likes to pursue.




I disagree that that's how Kawhi got his 3-pointers. TP did get one of his by Kawhi drawing the defense and kicking to Tony, however.

[dabom]

Were there any assists from Parker to Kawhi?

http://www.nba.com/games/20150206/MIASAS/gameinfo.html?ls=slt

Look at play-by-play

I think we all knew it wasn't like EVAY said. It's fine though. I think we all knew what he was trying to get at.

[dabom]

You are free to have and express your opinion, however mis-guided or intellectually barren it may be.:tu

Your take was almost as bad as chinook telling me kawhi didn't shut down westbrook in game 5 last year. :lol

[Sean Cagney]

It's not like he can have a good postseason game in the middle of the season.

:lol

[EVAY]

Yes, and it has failed time and time again with Parker at the helm. The Spurs have always been an average team at best even when it's working at 100% lmao. It got us plenty of regular season wins, and a shit load of playoff failures. It took Manu/Diaw running point to unlock this offense's true potential last year.

Parker takes too long to create, and his court vision is far too limited for this team period. This used to work great when we didn't have such a talented offensive roster.

Freeing up Parker can take upwards of 5 secs. running him off numerous screens, once TP gets the ball, another 5 secs trying to break down the defense. If he fails to break down the defense, chances are he'll bring it back out and try again (Thus you get the dribble dribble dribble). Meanwhile he's completely taken his teammates out of the game offensively, they are not playing as a team, this is not what won them championships. This even affects them even defensively because teams play best on both sides of the ball as an actual team. They're just there, standing around forced to watch Parker.

In the playoffs this pretty much means death against most teams with a shot blocker and above average defense (OKC). By packing the paint it closes off many lanes for Parker, reducing the amount of defensive attention he gets, many times he's challenging them 1v1 at the rim, but can't get his shot off. Because they're able to easily challenge Parker they can close out on the 3pt shooters running them off the line, neutralizing the Spurs' 3pt game. Parker has a history of choking around shot blockers.

Suddenly that formula you were using in the regular season is no longer working in the playoffs. The regular season does not=Playoffs at all.

Now, this works with Manu/Diaw because they've got size and much better court vision. Parker has always relied on the system to get him most of his assists, corner 3's and Duncan pick and rolls/post, probably make up 90% of his career assists. Parker can only create what is already there, Diaw/Manu can create plays with their passing that are NOT there. Start paying attention to just how basic Parker's passes are, anybody can replicate them, he relies on the system to create for him.






90% of Parker's scoring came against Napier.

http://www.nba.com/games/20150206/MIASAS/gameinfo.html?ls=slt


Napier is just 170lbs, and because of this Parker was able to create bodily separation. He was backing him down getting great position in the paint, allowing him to create for others with the defensive attention he drew. On his drives to the rim Napier would easily get picked off by screens (just way too light), or he'd get bumped off by Parker because he was too small.

Creating separation in the NBA is what separates the scrubs from the elite offensive players, which many people don't know. Separation can be achieved a handful of ways.

Parker relies on speed and play calling to create separation for himself, other guys use dribbling/ball handling/fakes, others bodily contact. Parker does not rely on bodily contact, which he used to excel in this game. His jumpers are usually off some sort of screen (separation created by play calling), his drives to the rim (play calling and speed).

I agree with most of what you have said in this. They are good observations and well-stated.

Mostly, I agree that Parker is successful because of the system (he has never had the raw talent and passing ability of Manu or Boris) and his speed. Moreover, since both Manu and Boris are about 4-6 inches taller than TP, his court vision is definitely inferior to theirs. However, in the last two years, the difficulty he has had in getting the offense into its set is, I believe, a function of the league having figured out just how critical his function (regardless of who is filling that function) is to the team's offense.

It has primarily been in the last two years that we have seen more and more defenses running two and/or three players out at the pg, knowing that putting that many people out there will in fact delay the start of the offensive set, and often move our offensive players out of position in order to help the ball handler. That means often that TP is in fact having to dribble around three people instead of one or two to simply start the offense. It definitely effects the play. Pop hasn't changed that play initiation. He might think about doing that.

I agree entirely that packing the paint and having a decent shot blocker destroys a lot of what Pop was wanting to happen in that, and we have seen it repeatedly since the end of the 2013 season, imo. When he had success last year was when Splitter did a good job of blocking out the rim protector. Baynes did a good job of that in the last game and that, along with Parker moving a bit faster, resulted in greater success.

But, as you say, that is all a function of the system.

Some of what I have been trying (clearly inartfully) to get at is that the system is set up a certain way. The way that has worked in the last several years is as you described. When the system was so successful last year was when the 'hockey assist' and the reliance on many ball handlers became the dominant factor in the system.

My point is that in order for Kawhi to have more of a prominent role in the offense (prominent meaning that he has a role other than spot up shooter for whomever is getting the pass off), the system has to change. I believe that the team tried that earlier this season with limited success. Not that it can't BECOME successful, but that the team still has to figure it out, or Pop needs to change the system.

Falling back on the 'inside-out game' that has defined our offense for much of the past few years worked the other night against Miami specifically because of the type of defense that Miami plays. The Western Conference teams figured out long ago how to neutralize Parker's strengths in just the way you indicated, and that is partly why they are so much more successful against us than Eastern teams are.

Here's the thing though. Parker is a creation of Pop's coaching and Pop's system. He is what Pop always wanted to be himself, imo, a less-talented player than a lot of others but a guy who does what he is told and runs the plays Pop tells him to run. Pop is NOT going to get rid of Tony.

[DarrinS]

Parker just needs to evolve his game and his role as he gets older, loses some quickness, etc. he'll help the team more and extend his career, IMO

[mkurts]

Holy moly one good game from Parker and suddenly the tards are celebrating as if that was the Finals last game this year.

No comment on his form in this Raptors game or are the Porky fans gone dumb and mute ?

[lefty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAxL4oK2-E4

[Clipper Nation]

Where are all those Enrique cock-worshippers? :lol

[lefty]

Where are all those Enrique cock-worshippers? :lol

[timtonymanu]

:lol 4-13
:lol minus 22

[dabom]

Dude is a fail tbh.

[Blizzardwizard]

Player haters with agendas won't admit to MVParker's greatness.

Another great game by the best player in franchise history. :lobt2:

[TE]

I might be done with Parker, tbh. I don't want to throw anybody under the bus but his performance screams decline. He would get away with years ago with his ability to score points in the paint. That's no longer something he can do with consistency.

[Mikeanaro]

Where are all those Enrique cock-worshippers? :lol
They were all excited until this Raptors game because one decent game erases all the shit from the past.

[Clipper Nation]

Player haters with agendas won't admit to MVParker's greatness.

Another great game by the best player in franchise history. :lobt2:
:lol You're also a Choke Thornton fan, 'nuff said.

[Mikeanaro]

Cojo +19 warming the bench, Pop and Pork do it every night.

[Blizzardwizard]

:lol You're also a Choke Thornton fan, 'nuff said.

I'm no Cuck Thornton fan :lol

MVMarleau>>>>>>>Cuck Thornton.

[NASpurs]

Amazing how a player can be a liability on both sides of the court :lol

[Diego20]

Player haters with agendas won't admit to MVParker's greatness.

Another great game by the best player in franchise history. :lobt2:


:lmao


:lmao









:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

I'm no Cuck Thornton fan :lol

MVMarleau>>>>>>>Cuck Thornton.

Marchoke is another choker, tbh. :lol

#ItWas3-0

[Blizzardwizard]

Marchoke is another choker, tbh. :lol

#ItWas3-0

MVMarleau is no choker, 60 playoff goals and over a 100 playoff points. Not his fault he's weighed down by cucks like Cuck Thornton.

[mkurts]

Holy moly one good game from Parker and suddenly the tards are celebrating as if that was the Finals last game this year.

No comment on his form in this Raptors game or are the Porky fans gone dumb and mute ?

[DJR210]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/DJR210/ParkerTurkey_zpsd766af4d.png

[FkLA]

lol at the mods trying to shield Enrique by deleting threads

Thanks for the photoshop brah. :tu

[apalisoc_9]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/DJR210/ParkerTurkey_zpsd766af4d.png


lol at the mods trying to shield Enrique by deleting threads

Thanks for the photoshop brah. :tu

:lmao

[DJR210]

lol at the mods trying to shield Enrique by deleting threads

Thanks for the photoshop brah. :tu

No problem.

[szkorhetz]

In the meantime, George Hill is playing the best basketball of his career.

[Calispursfan11]

Enrique says...

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[DJR210]

In the meantime, George Hill is playing the best basketball of his career.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2le4504.jpg

[Calispursfan11]

Enrique says...

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[dabom]

:lmao

[DMC]

3rd tier posters legriding Harlem's schtick per the usual.

[dabom]

3rd tier posters legriding Harlem's schtick per the usual.

califaggots stay like the lakers. lottery team. :lmao

[Blake]

Hey guys whats up....I was going to post up some youtube videos of people who have vision's and dreams about Jesus Christ and other events....visions of the lord coming soon and etc etc.....but for some reason the videos don't post on here so here are some youtube channels to look up....

Boldsojah4Christ

Crystal Clay

Evangelist Anita Fuentes


Check these youtube channels out......some legit visions and dreams about the lord Jesus Christ.....these people receive the message of the lord and tell there visions on youtube for people to see.....check them out cause theres some good information on there.....Brothers and sisters repent,forgive your sins and get closer to god before its too late....god loves us all and he want us to get closer to him.....reach out to the lord and tell him that you want to be saved...you have to believe in it....have faith .......glory to the father son and holy spirit...love you my brothers and sisters....god bless
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[$pursDynasty]

Enrique says...

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Post of the week!!!