Browns have a black GM?

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Oh no wonder it's the biggest circus in the NFL

[Aztecfan03]

Oh no wonder it's the biggest circus in the NFL

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12278830/cleveland-browns-gm-ray-farmer-face-texting-sanctions

A suspension for general manager Ray Farmer, a loss of a draft pick and a fine for the team are among the possible sanctions the Cleveland Browns (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cle/cleveland-browns) are facing in the NFL's investigation into allegations that texts were being sent to the sideline during games, league sources told ESPN, confirming a report by Cleveland.com (http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/02/cleveland_browns_ray_farmer_su.html).

:lmao

[Aztecfan03]

Cleveland.com originally reported last month that text messages from a high-level front-office member were sent and that it was one issue in former offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan leaving the team. He perceived it as interference from the front office regarding coaching decisions.





A league source confirmed that Farmer was doing the texting, with most going to quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains, who sat in the press box, and an unnamed team employee on the sideline.
Farmer's text messages were nearly a season-long occurrence, a source close to the situation said Wednesday. The texts took place for multiple games and continued at least until Johnny Manziel (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/16736/johnny-manziel) got his first start in Week 15.

[Avante]

Oh no wonder it's the biggest circus in the NFL

If not for black's nobody would watch the NFL.

Look at the big play...black QB throwing an INT to another black player, while trying to hit a black player, while everyone is....why didn't he hand off to the black running back?

There are no 230 pound white guys with 4.45 jets. No 6-4 white guys with 4.35 speed.

When we do see a successful black guy we can't ignore the fact it was a lot harder for him coming up than us white cats. Most the time they come from a one parent home and had to rise above the street mentality.

[Avante]

Where would the NFL be without....

Jim Brown
Jerry Rice
Lawrence Taylor
Michael Trvin
Deion Sanders
Barry Sanders
Deacon Jones
Randy Moss
Emmitt Smith
Walter Payton
Terrell Owens
Warren Moon
Richard Sherman
Marshawn Lynch
Darrell Revis
Rod Woodson
Ronnie Lott
Eric Dickerson
Shannon Sharpe
Franco Harris
Reggie Wayne
Earl Campbell
Chris Carter
Marshall Faulk
Jerome Bettis
Reggie White
Michael Strahan
Dick Bass
Timmy Brown
Harold Carmichael
Charlie Joiner
Wes Chandler
James Wilder
Warrick ADunn
Frank Gore
Calvin Hill
Herschel Walker
Nolan "Super Ghat" Smith
Buck Buchanon
Johnny Sample
Gloster Richardson
Mike Garrett
Charles White
Bob Hayes
Travis Williams
Larry Fitzgearald
Steve McNair
Doug Williams
The Frig
Russell Wilson
Tony Dorsett
Andre Reed
Calvin Johnson
O.J.Simpson
Antonio Gates
Marcus Allen
Darrell Green
Devin Hester
Kellon Winslow
Bruce Smith
"Mean" Joe Greene
Lynn Swann
Thurman Thomas
Joe "The Jet" Perry
Vernon Davis
John Mackey
Lenny Moore
John Henry Johnson
Emlen Tunnel
"Night Train" Lane
Billy Sims
Joe Washington
Cookie Gilchrist
Otis Taylor
Abner Haynes
Paul Lowe
Matt Snell
Lionel Taylor
Don Perkins
Tim Brown
Cliff Branch

well?

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Where would the NFL be without....

Jim Brown
Jerry Rice
Lawrence Taylor
Michael Trvin
Deion Sanders
Barry Sanders
Deacon Jones
Randy Moss
Emmitt Smith
Walter Payton
Terrell Owens
Warren Moon
Richard Sherman
Marshawn Lynch
Darrell Revis
Rod Woodson
Ronnie Lott
Eric Dickerson
Shannon Sharpe
Franco Harris
Reggie Wayne
Earl Campbell
Chris Carter
Marshall Faulk
Jerome Bettis
Reggie White
Michael Strahan
Dick Bass
Timmy Brown
Harold Carmichael
Charlie Joiner
Wes Chandler
James Wilder
Warrick ADunn
Frank Gore
Calvin Hill
Herschel Walker
Nolan "Super Ghat" Smith
Buck Buchanon
Johnny Sample
Gloster Richardson
Mike Garrett
Charles White
Bob Hayes
Travis Williams
Larry Fitzgearald
Steve McNair
Doug Williams
The Frig
Russell Wilson
Tony Dorsett
Andre Reed
Calvin Johnson
O.J.Simpson
Antonio Gates
Marcus Allen
Darrell Green
Devin Hester
Kellon Winslow
Bruce Smith
"Mean" Joe Greene
Lynn Swann
Thurman Thomas
Joe "The Jet" Perry
Vernon Davis
John Mackey
Lenny Moore
John Henry Johnson
Emlen Tunnel
"Night Train" Lane
Billy Sims
Joe Washington
Cookie Gilchrist
Otis Taylor
Abner Haynes
Paul Lowe
Matt Snell
Lionel Taylor
Don Perkins
Tim Brown
Cliff Branch

well?
Less off the field suspensions, less penalties, less show baiting, less INT's on the 1 yard line.

[JoeTait75]

Oh no wonder it's the biggest circus in the NFL

If only it were that simple.

[Avante]

Less off the field suspensions, less penalties, less show baiting, less INT's on the 1 yard line.

You could dump all the white players and the NFL wouldn't miss a beat. You dump the black players and there goes those big $$$$ TV contracts. Nobody pays big $$$ to watch a bunch of backs who can't break a 4.55 40. Little white receivers.


People want to see the Marshawn Lynchs, not the Toby Geharts.

Adrian Peterson, Jamaal Charles, DeMarco Murray, Arian Foster, Frank Gore, Toby Gehart????

[Aztecfan03]

You could dump all the white players and the NFL wouldn't miss a beat. You dump the black players and there goes those big $$$$ TV contracts. Nobody pays big $$$ to watch a bunch of backs who can't break a 4.55 40. Little white receivers.


People want to see the Marshawn Lynchs, not the Toby Geharts.

Adrian Peterson, Jamaal Charles, DeMarco Murray, Arian Foster, Frank Gore, Toby Gehart????

The running game would still go downhill because the blocking would suck.

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You could dump all the white players and the NFL wouldn't miss a beat. You dump the black players and there goes those big $$$$ TV contracts. Nobody pays big $$$ to watch a bunch of backs who can't break a 4.55 40. Little white receivers.


People want to see the Marshawn Lynchs, not the Toby Geharts.

Adrian Peterson, Jamaal Charles, DeMarco Murray, Arian Foster, Frank Gore, Toby Gehart????
People want to see Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Rivers, Ben, Brees, Luck, Romo, etc etc etc

Unless the running back is on your team, most fans dont give a shit about runners

[Avante]

The running game would still go downhill because the blocking would suck.

You have any idea at all how long those HBCU schools have been playing football?

[Avante]

People want to see Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Rivers, Ben, Brees, Luck, Romo, etc etc etc

Unless the running back is on your team, most fans dont give a shit about runners

Put on a highlights video of those you mentioned and then one of Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick and Russell Wilson.

People want to be...wow!!!!!!!!!....we get that from the black athletes.

The fastest white American ever was Kevin Little, he ran a 10.13. The HS record is 10.00 held by, yep!

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Put on a highlights video of those you mentioned and then one of Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick and Russell Wilson.
> Alot of incomplete passes bouncing off the turf

[Aztecfan03]

You have any idea at all how long those HBCU schools have been playing football?

What does that have to do with anything? Most of the o-lineman in the NFL are still white. Replacing them with college-level players would be a huge downgrade.

[Aztecfan03]

Put on a highlights video of those you mentioned and then one of Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick and Russell Wilson.

People want to be...wow!!!!!!!!!....we get that from the black athletes.

I prefer Brees, Rivers, Peyton, Rodgers, Luck, etc.

[Avante]

> Alot of incomplete passes bouncing off the turf

Compare RW's comp % to Andrew Lucks.

[Avante]

I prefer Brees, Rivers, Peyton, Rodgers, Luck, etc.

Yes but do you also prefer, Danny Woodhead, Peyton Hillis, Toby Gehart, Eric Decker, Jordy Nelson, Julian Edelman?

[NFO]

What about Randall's or Vick's comp %

It all goes back to RW with Avante.

You could be talking about offensive lineman, RBs, etc... and Avante will just pull out the RW card no matter if it is relevant to the conversation or not. Sad.

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What about Randall's or Vick's comp %

It all goes back to RW with Avante.

You could be talking about offensive lineman, RBs, etc... and Avante will just pull out the RW card no matter if it is relevant to the conversation or not. Sad.
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[Aztecfan03]

Yes but do you also prefer, Danny Woodhead, Peyton Hillis, Toby Gehart, Eric Decker, Jordy Nelson, Julian Edelman?

No, but I also wouln't prefer all black o-line. ANd those black playmakers would not be able to make as many plays with weaker blocking.
The passing game would be the QB's scrambling all over the place to avoid the defense so they wouldn't be able to make as many good passes to the recievers. The game would suffer without either color.

[Avante]

No, but I also wouln't prefer all black o-line. ANd those black playmakers would not be able to make as many plays with weaker blocking.
The passing game would be the QB's scrambling all over the place to avoid the defense so they wouldn't be able to make as many good passes to the recievers. The game would suffer without either color.

Apparently you've never seen an HBCU game.

Hall of Famers from HBCU schools

Deacon Jones
Willie Davis
Lem Barney
Willie Brown
Jerry Rice
Walter Payton
Leroy Kelly
Aeneus Williams
Buck Buchanon
John Stallworth
Charlie Joiner
Bob Hayes

You have any idea at all how many HBCU players have played pro football?

How many white players played defense in the last Superbowl?

[Aztecfan03]

holy crap are you dense.

[Avante]

holy crap are you dense.

Is that your way of saying the game would suck without the black athletes?

[Aztecfan03]

No, it's my way of saying you have zero reading comprehension.

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All Time Black Defense

line

Bruce Smith
"Mean" Joe Greene
Vince Wolfolk
Reggie White
Deacon Jones
Michael Strahan
Buck Buchanon
Charles Haley

backers

Willie Lanier
Mike Singletary
Ray Lewis
Bobby Bell
Patrick Willis
Sam Mills
Lawrence Taylor

DBs

Richard Sherman
Darelle Revis
Rod Woodson
Deion Sanders
Michael Haynes
Ronnie Lott
"Night Train" Lane
Lem Barney
Darrel Green
Emlen Tunnell

Lets see that All White defense. I really do want to see anyone come up with that All White defense. Right there is where we do see that huge difference between black and white athletes.

[Clipper Nation]

I seem to recall the Niners losing to teams with black GM's in the playoffs in back-to-back years not too long ago.