Who was the second best player during the 2014 Spurs Playoffs?

[dabom]

Was it Manu or Kawhi? Serious Discussion.

[dabom]

Kawhi 2.9 WS and a .191WS/48 FMVP winner
Manu 2.3 WS and a .184WS/48

[apalisoc_9]

It was TD

[Cry Havoc]

Did you say that FMVP Kawhi was our 2nd best player in the playoffs?

It's official, dabom hates Kawhi.

Terrible thread backfiring. :lol

[100%duncan]

1. TD
2. Kawhi
3. Manu

[dabom]

Did you say that Kawhi was our 2nd best player in the playoffs?

It's official, dabom hates Kawhi.

I think everyone acknowledges that TD was our best player.

[TheGreatYacht]

Did you say that FMVP Kawhi was our 2nd best player in the playoffs?

It's official, dabom hates Kawhi.

Terrible thread backfiring. :lol
:lol

[TDfan2007]

1. TD
2. Kawhi
3. Manu

This.

Gonna be honest...didn't expect to see those two names on OP's poll. Typo?

[dabom]

This.

Gonna be honest...didn't expect to see those two names on OP's poll. Typo?

Nah. Duncan was our best and most consistent player.

[Cry Havoc]

It was TD


I think everyone acknowledges that TD was our best player.

:rollin The shitty little Kawhi krew about to rumble with each other. :stirpot: :danceclub :nutkick: :huddle:

[dabom]

The shitty little Kawhi krew about to rumble with each other. :stirpot: :danceclub :nutkick: :huddle:

Hurry up and vote.

[Cry Havoc]

Hurry up and vote.

"No, no, I'm not gonna be your monkey." - Jon Stewart, Crossfire

[Silver&Black]

Hurry up and vote.

fuck yo poll clown

Wait....that doesn't sound right.

[dabom]

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:lmao

[ElNono]

- Manu and Tiago were far out the MVPs of the 1st round series against Dallas.
- Gino did not have an outstanding series against Portland, but he didn't suck either.
- He was critical to close out OKC (he even had a really good game 4 in OKC, IIRC).
- He was instrumental rallying the team back in Game 5 of the Finals after a piss poor start, and was a major component of the ball movement in that series.

He posted a PER of 20.3 for the playoffs, his best rating since the 2010-2011 playoffs, and he did it at 36 years old.

On the other hand...

- Kawhi was consistently good on defense
- Despite the multiple blowouts, he played a solid series against OKC, and I though he set the tone in Game 6 with that dunk over Ibaka, the first play of that game. He also had the critical steal in OT that basically deflated the Thunder.
- While he was 'mediocre' (Pop's own words) in Game 1 and 2 of the Finals, he really came through in the last 3.

He posted a PER of 18.7 for the playoffs, but PER doesn't do his defense enough justice.

It's certainly close, and I'm damn glad we had both on our team, because we weren't winning #5 otherwise. The fact that we're having this convo actually goes to show what an amazing playoffs Gino had at such an advanced point in his career, especially after his playoffs the previous season. I don't think anybody on the team embodied 'redemption' quite like him.

[apalisoc_9]

dabom has an opinion and a very valid one..Not sure why people are following dabom around.

rookie poster of year i say.

[Clipper Nation]

:rollin The shitty little Kawhi krew about to rumble with each other. :stirpot: :danceclub :nutkick: :huddle:
It's almost as if Kawhi's supporters aren't a bunch of blind conformist player-fans like the Enriquesuckers.

[dabom]

- Manu and Tiago were far out the MVPs of the 1st round series against Dallas.
- Gino did not have an outstanding series against Portland, but he didn't suck either.
- He was critical to close out OKC (he even had a really good game 4 in OKC, IIRC).
- He was instrumental rallying the team back in Game 5 of the Finals after a piss poor start, and was a major component of the ball movement in that series.

He posted a PER of 20.3 for the playoffs, his best rating since the 2010-2011 playoffs, and he did it at 36 years old.

On the other hand...

- Kawhi was consistently good on defense
- Despite the multiple blowouts, he played a solid series against OKC, and I though he set the tone in Game 6 with that dunk over Ibaka, the first play of that game.
- While he was 'mediocre' (Pop's own words) in Game 1 and 2 of the Finals, he really came through in the last 3.

He posted a PER of 18.7 for the playoffs, but PER doesn't do his defense enough justice.

It's certainly close, and I'm damn glad we had both on our team, because we weren't winning #5 otherwise. The fact that we're having this convo actually goes to show what an amazing playoffs Gino had at such an advanced point in his career, especially after his playoffs the previous season. I don't think anybody on the team embodied 'redemption' quite like him.

:tu

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/kbwink.gif

[ElNono]

damn, I should've added that Kawhi also had that critical steal against OKC... let me edit and add it

[KL2]

Voted Manu on accident lol.


Leonard was huge against the very best though. You can't blame him for the Dallas series, Parker's dribble dribble dribble, and the bigs crowding him in the post.

Green/Leonard have a huge impact on Duncan's ability to defend which doesn't show up on the stat sheet.

[dabom]

dabom has an opinion and a very valid one..Not sure why people are following dabom around.

rookie poster of year i say.

I agree. People seem to think there's a party line and shit.

Thanks for the nomination btw. :toast

[dabom]

Voted Manu on accident lol.


Leonard was huge against the very best though. You can't blame him for the Dallas series, Parker's dribble dribble dribble, and the bigs crowding him in the post.

Green/Leonard have a huge impact on Duncan's ability to defend which doesn't show up on the stat sheet.

i saw ur vote and was like :downspin: lol

[TDfan2007]

It was TD

:lol what a hipster Kawhi playerfan take.

2014 playoffs advanced stats:

TD:

PER: 21.1 win shares/48: 0.204

Kawhi:

PER: 18.7 win shares/48: 0.191

Timmy also averaged more points, rebounds, assists, and blocks per game.

[ElNono]

Leonard was huge against the very best though. You can't blame him for the Dallas series, Parker's dribble dribble dribble, and the bigs crowding him in the post.

Green/Leonard have a huge impact on Duncan's ability to defend which doesn't show up on the stat sheet.

He was, but every series mattered, especially Dallas which ended up being the only team taking us the distance.

But really, you could pick either and you wouldn't be wrong, IMO.

[KL2]

He was, but every series mattered, especially Dallas which ended up being the only team taking us the distance.

But really, you could pick either and you wouldn't be wrong, IMO.

Agreed.

[TDfan2007]

Nah. Duncan was our best and most consistent player.

Props on the objectivity :tu

Although in the end this argument is kinda pointless, since no player in particular was a huge standout. 2014 Spurs won as a team more than any group since the 2004 Pistons. Great stuff to watch, and we can only hope that they can get close to that level again this time around.

[dabom]

Props on the objectivity :tu

Although in the end this argument is kinda pointless, since no player in particular was a huge standout. 2014 Spurs won as a team more than any group since the 2004 Pistons. Great stuff to watch, and we can only hope that they can get close to that level again this time around.

Everyone played a huge factor. Most def.

[Doctor J]

1. Duncan
2. Manu / Kawhi
3. Parker

[dabom]

1. Duncan
2. Manu / Kawhi
3. Parker

You clearly have manu at 2 since you voted for him or else you could have not voted at all. That's fine though.
I'd have tiago at the number 4 spot though. He played great the entire playoffs.

[SayTown]

Kawhi didn't show up for the Dallas series which was a big reason they took Spurs to seven

[TampaDude]

Kawhi didn't show up for the Dallas series which was a big reason they took Spurs to seven

If not for that bullshit buzzer beater by VC, the Spurs drop the Mavs in 5.

Kawhi's strip of Westbrook in Game 6 of the WCF was the play of the year, IMHO.

[Doctor J]

You clearly have manu at 2 since you voted for him or else you could have not voted at all. That's fine though.
I'd have tiago at the number 4 spot though. He played great the entire playoffs.

Agreed.

1. TD
2. Manu / Kawhi
3. TP
4. Tiago

[urunobili]

lol you guys not even mentioning Diaw :lol

My personal preference:

1. TD
2. Kawhi
3. Manu
4. Diaw
5. Tony
6. Green
7. Splitter
8. Mills
9. Belli
10. Baynes (surprised Portland)
11. CoJo (that Dunk on Ibaka)
12. Bonner (stretched Ibaka)