Mavs going hard after Kevin Martin?

[Phillip]

not sure how legit, but some reports of this have been seen around the web over the past hour or so...

[Amarelooms]

Amare looms son that's all that maters

[Cry Havoc]

Amare looms son that's all that maters

:lol This username is amazingly relevant again. :lol

[Cry Havoc]

KMart has been an absolute star this year. If he didn't get hurt, he'd be generating a lot more buzz. Guy is very underrated.

[Horse]

Wow another chucker who doesn't play D.

[hater]

:lol you already have Ellis to chuck. there's only 1 ball :lol

[DAF86]

For a moment I thought of Kenyon Martin. Now that would be a nice adition providing he has something left.

[Phillip]

For a moment I thought of Kenyon Martin. Now that would be a nice adition providing he has something left.

Where did you get Kenyon Martin when the title clearly says "Kevin" Martin?

[Thread]

For a moment I thought of Kenyon Martin. Now that would be a nice adition providing he has something left.


Where did you get Kenyon Martin when the title clearly says "Kevin" Martin?

Realistic expectations, that's where.

[td4mvp2k]

Wow another chucker who doesn't play D.

[FkLA]

KMart has been an absolute star this year. If he didn't get hurt, he'd be generating a lot more buzz. Guy is very underrated.

Hope you are being sarcastic...

Desperate franchise making desperate moves tbh.

[Cry Havoc]

Wow another chucker who doesn't play D.

:lol Shooting 41.3% from beyond the arc on high volume is chucking now.

Meanwhile, Danny Green shoots 39% from 3 and Kawhi shoots 33% from 3.

I guess the only guys who aren't chuckers in this league are the 14 players who shoot better than KMart from 3. :lol

[Cry Havoc]

Hope you are being sarcastic...

Desperate franchise making desperate moves tbh.

K.

[spurraider21]

:lol Shooting 41.3% from beyond the arc on high volume is chucking now.

Meanwhile, Danny Green shoots 39% from 3 and Kawhi shoots 33% from 3.

I guess the only guys who aren't chuckers in this league are the 14 players who shoot better than KMart from 3. :lol
chucking isn't a % game... its a guy who takes bad shots in volume, to the detriment of his team

[FkLA]

Here's his playoff averages, moron: 13.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.0 apg, 38.8% shooting, 35.4% from three

He's arguably the biggest fraud in the NBA. Always puts up 'nice' numbers in the RS that don't reflect how little talent he actually has. That usually gets exposed in the playoffs (the few times that he's actually gotten there).

lol absolute star my ass

[Cry Havoc]

Here's his playoff averages, moron: 13.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.0 apg, 38.8% shooting, 35.4% from three

He's arguably the biggest fraud in the NBA. Always puts up 'nice' numbers in the RS that don't reflect how little talent he actually has. That usually gets exposed in the playoffs (the few times that he's actually gotten there).

lol absolute star my ass

The fact that you think 17 total games is statistically significant is pretty telling of your basic understanding of analysis on any level. :tu

[Cry Havoc]

chucking isn't a % game... its a guy who takes bad shots in volume, to the detriment of his team

He takes shots in volume and makes them at a top 15 rate from deep for the entire NBA and at ~45% for the season. On a team that's 11 and 42 and started Mo Williams in 19 games this year. :lol

[Bulaien999]

Kevin Martin would get points through out the game until the fourth quarter... when it was time to close out

[FkLA]

The fact that you think 17 games of post-season play is statistically significant is pretty telling of your basic understanding of analysis on any level. :tu

lol you idiot

Yeah, it's pure coincidence that his teams are losers. Or that his RS numbers are what they are.

[Clipper Nation]

CryFaggot with pitiful mainstream takes, per par.

[Cry Havoc]

CryFaggot with pitiful mainstream takes, per par.

CN acting salty but would be the first one trumpeting about Martin's prowess if the Clips got him.


... on second thought, maybe not. You've taken a shine to the self-loathing of the upstairs krew in hating your own players. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

We have enough chokers already, the last thing we need is Kevin fucking Martin.

[FkLA]

Kevin Martin was supposed to fill Harden's void (atleast in the short term) after the trade and he lasted a year. Even Jeremy Lamb has lasted longer in OKC. Yeah, what an absolute star. :lol

[spurraider21]

He takes shots in volume and makes them at a top 15 rate from deep for the entire NBA and at ~45% for the season. On a team that's 11 and 42 and started Mo Williams in 19 games this year. :lol
wasn't necessarily calling him a chucker in that post... just explaining that a good % doesn't make one exempt from the chucker label

martin is a ridiculously one dimensional player who has been the same thing for about a decade now

[m>s]

How would we realistically get him?

[Leetonidas]

:lmao Kevin Martin....c'mon Dallas

[m>s]

We could actually used the floor spacing. Ellis and parsons are mediocre three point shooters and rondo can't shoot at all neither can Harris. We could work him into certain lineup situations

[Leetonidas]

True tbh but he is an atrocious defensive player, hope big daddy Tyson can mask him being a traffic cone.


Are Mavs fans happy with Rondo at this point?

[Bulaien999]

Kevin Martin would get points through out the game until the fourth quarter... when it was time to close out

[Killakobe81]

CN acting salty but would be the first one trumpeting about Martin's prowess if the Clips got him.


... on second thought, maybe not. You've taken a shine to the self-loathing of the upstairs krew in hating your own players. :lol

Ding!!!

[Killakobe81]

Kevin Martin was supposed to fill Harden's void (atleast in the short term) after the trade and he lasted a year. Even Jeremy Lamb has lasted longer in OKC. Yeah, what an absolute star. :lol

great freaking trade!!!

[mavsfan1000]

When you don't play D, you have more energy to shoot well. Kevin Martin a perfect example of that.

[Thread]

^& his shot release from the belt buckle. Forget it.

[Cry Havoc]

Kevin Martin was supposed to fill Harden's void (atleast in the short term) after the trade and he lasted a year. Even Jeremy Lamb has lasted longer in OKC. Yeah, what an absolute star. :lol

:lol

Did you just try to say that Martin sucks because the front office that TRADED AWAY JAMES HARDEN couldn't find a use for him?

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of their basketball acumen there, chief. Reggie Jackson is a terrible chucker AND a far worse defender than Martin and they play him 20 minutes per game.

Reggie fucking 28% from 3 Jackson. :lol

[FkLA]

:lol

Did you just try to say that Martin sucks because the front office that TRADED AWAY JAMES HARDEN couldn't find a use for him?

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of their basketball acumen there, chief. Reggie Jackson is a terrible chucker AND a far worse defender than Martin and they play him 20 minutes per game.

Reggie fucking 28% from 3 Jackson. :lol

smh you dumb faggot

I can tell you're going down with this ship so ok, you win. Kevin Martin is UNDISPUTABLY an 'ABSOLUTE STAR' who's ALSO a MUCH better DEFENDER than REGGIE fucking jackson.

[FkLA]

http://i.imgur.com/nQ6S5kl.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/GM0WfDF.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/3lZhVmH.png?1

that REGGIE fucking JACKSON guy is a MUCH much WORSE DEfender

[Malik Hairston]

Dallas has such a strange roster, tbh..Chandler, Ellis and maybe Dirk are the only players on the roster that seem to have a concrete, defined role..

[Findog]

Adding Amare and Kevin Martin to your bench are no brainer moves. It doesn't guarantee the Mavs shit in the playoffs, but it makes them a better team.

[Phillip]

smh you dumb faggot

I can tell you're going down with this ship so ok, you win. Kevin Martin is UNDISPUTABLY an 'ABSOLUTE STAR' who's ALSO a MUCH better DEFENDER than REGGIE fucking jackson.

lol emo post
lol mad
lol faggot

[Malik Hairston]

Adding Amare and Kevin Martin to your bench are no brainer moves. It doesn't guarantee the Mavs shit in the playoffs, but it makes them a better team.

I agree with this, the Mavs bench looks pretty awful from a talent standpoint(Amare was a good move), but I still think their team is built strangely..you could argue that the 2011 team was also "throwing shit on the wall", but that team had an entire roster of players with defined roles..

[FkLA]

lol emo post
lol mad
lol faggot

I was actually mocking his posting style. :tu

lol too dumb to pick up on it
lol fat, low iq korean

[DAF86]

I agree with this, the Mavs bench looks pretty awful from a talent standpoint(Amare was a good move), but I still think their team is built strangely..you could argue that the 2011 team was also "throwing shit on the wall", but that team had an entire roster of players with defined roles..

Carlisle found their roles later on. At the beggining Cuban was just getting big name players that were slightly past their primes and Carlisle somehow made it work. Kidd came as a hall of Famer fast-breaking PG and ended up being a great defensive PG that would get the team on their sets and knock down the open 3 (something he never has done before on his career), Marion came to be the high flying, slasher wing and ended up as a defensive specialist, when he got Peja I'm sure he got it with the idea of being something more than just a 15 mpg bench player yet he fulfilled that role. The only move that seemed to be made thinking more about the cohesive work of a team than just getting a recognisable name was the acquisition of Tyson Chandler.

[spurraider21]

I was actually mocking his posting style. :tu

lol too dumb to pick up on it
lol fat, low iq korean
:lol

[DAF86]

It's not that bad of a strategy tbh, if you get smart past-prime all-stars like Kidd, Marion and Carter that are willing to adapt you get a team of above average skills for role playing parts.

[Malik Hairston]

Carlisle found their roles later on. At the beggining Cuban was just getting big name players that were slightly past their primes and Carlisle somehow made it work. Kidd came as a hall of Famer fast-breaking PG and ended up being a great defensive PG that would get the team on their sets and knock down the open 3 (something he never has done before on his career), Marion came to be the high flying, slasher wing and ended up as a defensive specialist, when he got Peja I'm sure he got it with the idea of being something more than just a 15 mpg bench player yet he fulfilled that role. The only move that seemed to be made thinking more about the cohesive work of a team than just getting a recognisable name was the acquisition of Tyson Chandler.

Sure, but Kidd had already been a defensive-oriented player at one point in his career, as was Marion..the transitions to defensive role players wasn't farfetched, even prior to actually utilizing them in such roles..

Peja was also a 3-point shooting specialist for his entire career, obviously..

The current Mavs team doesn't have any 3&D players, their PG doesn't know what to do in their system, and Parsons-types are the most difficult players to fit on a roster IMO(what exactly does he do at a high level?)..Rondo could become a defensive specialist at PG, but he can't shoot, so obviously that doesn't work(unlike Kidd)..

It's a similar strategy in theory, but completely different in terms of execution of the strategy IMO..

[Findog]

Carlisle found their roles later on. At the beggining Cuban was just getting big name players that were slightly past their primes and Carlisle somehow made it work. Kidd came as a hall of Famer fast-breaking PG and ended up being a great defensive PG that would get the team on their sets and knock down the open 3 (something he never has done before on his career), Marion came to be the high flying, slasher wing and ended up as a defensive specialist, when he got Peja I'm sure he got it with the idea of being something more than just a 15 mpg bench player yet he fulfilled that role. The only move that seemed to be made thinking more about the cohesive work of a team than just getting a recognisable name was the acquisition of Tyson Chandler.

And now Monta Ellis is playing the best ball of his career for Dallas. Same with Tyson Chandler, he was a decent defensive big for Chicago, NOLA and Charlotte, but he took off with the Mavs. Dallas is gaining a rep as a place where players come to get better, similar to what the Spurs have already done. Mavs are like a watered-down version of the Spurs.

[Cry Havoc]

Sure, but Kidd had already been a defensive-oriented player at one point in his career, as was Marion..the transitions to defensive role players wasn't farfetched, even prior to actually utilizing them in such roles..

Peja was also a 3-point shooting specialist for his entire career, obviously..

The current Mavs team doesn't have any 3&D players, their PG doesn't know what to do in their system, and Parsons-types are the most difficult players to fit on a roster IMO(what exactly does he do at a high level?)..Rondo could become a defensive specialist at PG, but he can't shoot, so obviously that doesn't work(unlike Kidd)..

It's a similar strategy in theory, but completely different in terms of execution of the strategy IMO..

Yeah, Parsons has been a severe disappointment for almost any amount of money.


And now Monta Ellis is playing the best ball of his career for Dallas. Same with Tyson Chandler, he was a decent defensive big for Chicago, NOLA and Charlotte, but he took off with the Mavs. Dallas is gaining a rep as a place where players come to get better, similar to what the Spurs have already done. Mavs are like a watered-down version of the Spurs.

Well, outside of Pop and maybe Thibs, there's no one I'd rather have to develop a player other than Carlisle. And considering Thibs thinks that all of his athletes do ultramarathons in the off-season, I'd probably still take Carlisle.

Going to be interesting to see if the Mavs can remain contenders after Dirk is gone. They definitely have some pieces there.

[Phillip]

I was actually mocking his posting style. :tu

lol too dumb to pick up on it
lol fat, low iq korean

lol mad
lol taking this too seriously
lol faggot
lol smelly be@ner

[SPM]

:lol

That dick must taste good.

[spurraider21]

That dick must taste good.
lol alt account smack

[FkLA]

lol mad
lol taking this too seriously
lol faggot
lol smelly be@ner

lol trying to deflect
lol too stupid to pick up on it
lol fat, low iq korean

[m>s]

koreans >>> mexicans

let me break down the racial hierarchy for you

aryans > jews > slavs > southeast asians > indians/pakistanis > latinos > native americans > nig nogs > aboriginees

[m>s]

where the anglo man fucked up was having empathy and growing soft on you guys

[Phillip]

lol trying to deflect
lol too stupid to pick up on it
lol fat, low iq korean

lol mexican
lol nothing else matters

[apalisoc_9]

koreans >>> mexicans

let me break down the racial hierarchy for you

aryans > jews > slavs > southeast asians > indians/pakistanis > latinos > native americans > nig nogs > aboriginees

How is this possible when the brownies were fuxking white folks, making them slaves, making medicine, doing inventions 1000 years ago...

Not to mention the brownie influenced turkey stole Constantinople from the Aryans...Or have you classified the arabs somewhere else..

Many South American Latinos are white Nazi emphatisers...

Not sure what you're talking about

[m>s]

i didnt list arabs because they aren't human

[FkLA]

koreans >>> mexicans

let me break down the racial hierarchy for you

aryans > jews > slavs > southeast asians > indians/pakistanis > latinos > native americans > nig nogs > aboriginees

Brah Im a big dick engineer with a beautiful girl by my side. Race shots bounce right off me. You can keep your cum colored skin. :bobo

[FkLA]

A fat, low iq Korean otoh? That's pretty low on the totem pole tbh.

[m>s]

>lying on the internet


pics of the slut?

[FkLA]

lol come on now..

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

lol smelly be@ner


http://i58.tinypic.com/xokux5.jpg

[apalisoc_9]

i didnt list arabs because they aren't human

Are you intimidated?

[m>s]

lol come on now..
Exactly

[FkLA]

The Arabs I've met from Kuwait and UAE are some cool ass people tbh. :tu

[apalisoc_9]

I'm not arab...

:lol

I do think that Europe is getting a tad bit worried about a possible ottoman 2.0 against europe in the near future in the form of immigration...

Gotta remember the turks raped european women and slaved european kids for hundreds of years...

the ottomans were probably a war or two away from conquering europe hundreds of years ago.

[Phillip]

Brah Im a big dick engineer with a beautiful girl by my side. Race shots bounce right off me. You can keep your cum colored skin. :bobo

:lmao you can tell by his posts, this guy is the prototypical douchenozzle that thinks everyone likes him when in reality everyone wishes we would receive endless perpetual beatings

http://cdn.listcovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ultimate-selecton-of-douchebags-5.jpg

[Phillip]

http://i58.tinypic.com/xokux5.jpg

rofl wow

[MarioSpeedwagon]

Wow, bragging about penis size. smh

[Red Hawk #21]

http://i58.tinypic.com/xokux5.jpg

:rollin

[Russo21]

How many players do the mavs have on that roster. They are interested in every damn player

[FkLA]

:lmao you can tell by his posts, this guy is the prototypical douchenozzle that thinks everyone likes him when in reality everyone wishes we would receive endless perpetual beatings

http://cdn.listcovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ultimate-selecton-of-douchebags-5.jpg

Do those guys look Mexican or like they could be engineers, moron? But even if that was me it's still better than being you:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zTvUe_0iTnQ/hqdefault.jpg

lol fat, low iq korean

[Phillip]

Do those guys look Mexican or like they could be engineers, moron?

:lmao "im an engineer :cry :cry :cry"

[Jodelo]

Shemale porn :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

Brah Im a big dick engineer with a beautiful girl by my side. Race shots bounce right off me. You can keep your cum colored skin. :bobo

This quote pretty much sells itself.

[FkLA]

:lmao "im an engineer :cry :cry :cry"

http://www.shockmansion.com/wp-content/myimages/2013/05/yhj.jpg

[Phillip]

http://www.shockmansion.com/wp-content/myimages/2013/05/yhj.jpg

lol thinking you are clever
lol not
lol no one likes you
lol not even spurfans
lol faggot

[FkLA]

lol thinking you are clever
lol not
lol no one likes you
lol not even spurfans
lol faggot


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LkWucWWDbvM/hqdefault.jpg

[m>s]

Broken record reposting shtick is telling him

[DMC]

KMart has been an absolute star this year. If he didn't get hurt, he'd be generating a lot more buzz. Guy is very underrated.
He's a chucking flopper. Rare in the league, I know.

[DMC]

http://i58.tinypic.com/xokux5.jpg

Holy shit you found LkrFans' family.

[Phillip]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LkWucWWDbvM/hqdefault.jpg

lol too stupid to come up with anything
lol utsa education
lol making $8/hour as an "engineer" of burgers at your local mcdonalds
lol ":cry im still an engineer though :cry"

[Cry Havoc]

He's a chucking flopper. Rare in the league, I know.

Top 15 shooter from 3 in the league = chucking.

[FkLA]

lol too stupid to come up with anything
lol utsa education
lol making $8/hour as an "engineer" of burgers at your local mcdonalds
lol ":cry im still an engineer though :cry"

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NSmi1oIzPCc/hqdefault.jpg

[Phillip]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NSmi1oIzPCc/hqdefault.jpg

lol mexican

[DMC]

Top 15 shooter from 3 in the league = chucking.

So he was what, 15th?

[Cry Havoc]

So he was what, 15th?

Your point?

[DMC]

Your point?

Anyone who says "top 15" isn't talking about 14th place or better. Just say he was 15th. Otherwise it's ambiguous, like he belongs to this elite group of 15 people when in reality he's got 14 other shooters better than him. It's misleading, dishonest and you know it.

It's like a restaurant that got 5th place in customer voting using "Voted in the top 5 restaurants"

[Cry Havoc]

Anyone who says "top 15" isn't talking about 14th place or better. Just say he was 15th. Otherwise it's ambiguous, like he belongs to this elite group of 15 people when in reality he's got 14 other shooters better than him. It's misleading, dishonest and you know it.

It's like a restaurant that got 5th place in customer voting using "Voted in the top 5 restaurants"

So you're belaboring the semantics of the argument rather than the argument that he's a chucker. What a waste of time.

[DMC]

So you're belaboring the semantics of the argument rather than the argument that he's a chucker. What a waste of time.

You were trying to make a point that Martin is a good shooter, so the "top 15" was your semantics, not mine. He's 15th. Big deal.

[Cry Havoc]

You were trying to make a point that Martin is a good shooter, so the "top 15" was your semantics, not mine. He's 15th. Big deal.

The 15th best shooter in a league of 30 teams and 450+ players isn't good to you? Does it qualify him as a "chucker"?

[DMC]

The 15th best shooter in a league of 30 teams and 450+ players isn't good to you? Does it qualify him as a "chucker"?

There aren't 450 3pt shooters in the league. If every team in the league had one decent 3pt shooter, he's in the upper half of the teams.