"If TP isn't TP of past years, we're not going anywhere."

[TheGreatYacht]

- Gregg Popovich

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Seems like Pop hasn't been impressed with this Kawhi oriented offense, IMO. Parker is the head of the snake, and he knows this.. Here's to a better 2nd half of the season for our leader :tu

[illusioNtEk]

all players must be healthy not just TP

[Mel_13]

Pop's just a mainstream, Big 3 coach

[TheGreatYacht]

all players must be healthy not just TP
Agreed

[apalisoc_9]

Pop is one of the best coaches ever in terms of making sure he doesn't kill his players confidence...

Plus, TP is learning his new role now..In the last 10 games, Leonard has gotten the ball more than anyone else in the team.

having a good TP is a great luxury to have together with the Big 1

[dabom]

Pop is one of the best coaches ever in terms of making sure he doesn't kill his players confidence...

Plus, TP is learning his new role now..In the last 10 games, Leonard has gotten the ball more than anyone else in the team.

having a good TP is a great luxury to have together with the Big 1

We can't have tony sabotage the team tbh. Pop is covering his corners.

[Malik Hairston]

:lol of course he's going to say this, Enrique is one of the most sensitive players in recent history..

Pop's "wired "moment in last year's playoffs(where he praised Tony for not getting in the way of the rest of the team and disguising it as "leadership") was one of the most condescending things I have ever seen in sports:lol..

[TheGreatYacht]

Nigga should've stayed on his "leave of absence" :lol thought the old Malik with sub par takes was gone, nvm

[apalisoc_9]

:lol of course he's going to say this, Enrique is one of the most sensitive players in recent history..

Pop's "wired "moment in last year's playoffs(where he praised Tony for not getting in the way of the rest of the team and disguising it as "leadership") was one of the most condescending things I have ever seen in sports:lol..

This..

[TheGreatYacht]

Took you 7 minutes to switch accounts, you fell Harlem.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.benefitexpress.info/images/Leave-of-Absence-Tracking-Button.png

[apalisoc_9]

Pop " You didn't need to sxore, but you were a great leader out there"

translation

Give the ball to kawhi, you're stagnating the offense..:lol

[RD2191]

Pop " You didn't need to sxore, but you were a great leader out there"

translation

Give the ball to kawhi, you're stagnating the offense..:lol
Apol dropping nukes.

[Johnny RIngo]

Pop " You didn't need to sxore, but you were a great leader out there"

translation

Give the ball to kawhi, you're stagnating the offense..:lol

Pop should have told him this ten years ago.

[weeks]

I don't think we'll even make WCF if TP continues playing like dogshit.

Love me some Cojo and Mills but I'm not confident in their ability to orchestrate this offense for three rounds in the West

[apalisoc_9]

TP played like a donkey's ass in the finals and semi finals the spurs still won\

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

The slurping on this thread :lol

[Hoops Czar]

:lmao Everybody knows Leonard is by far the most sensitive player on the team. He might go down as one of the most babied Spurs in team history.

[TheGreatYacht]

Thinking Rashard Lewis will guard Kawhi every series :lmao

Team goes as far as the Big 3 goes

[SupremeGuy]

:lol of course he's going to say this, Enrique is one of the most sensitive players in recent history..

Pop's "wired "moment in last year's playoffs(where he praised Tony for not getting in the way of the rest of the team and disguising it as "leadership") was one of the most condescending things I have ever seen in sports:lol..


Pop " You didn't need to sxore, but you were a great leader out there"

translation

Give the ball to kawhi, you're stagnating the offense..:lolThis.


Took you 7 minutes to switch accounts, you fell Harlem.Shut the fuck up joestradamus. You're already outed as a fucking cavs/lebron fan, you giant faggot. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244080)

[SupremeGuy]

:lmao Everybody knows Leonard is by far the most sensitive player on the team. He might go down as one of the most babied Spurs in team history.Just on time, a fellow cavs fan to back up TGF :lol Too fucking obvious

[Hoops Czar]

Just on time, a fellow cavs fan to back up TGF :lol Too fucking obvious

Sup Dabom

[TheGreatYacht]

Just on time, a fellow cavs fan to back up TGF :lol Too fucking obvious
Short bus isn't complete without the resident crack head. What's up bruh

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao Everybody knows Leonard is by far the most sensitive player on the team. He might go down as one of the most babied Spurs in team history.
Nigga's been "showing upside" for 4 years now, and he's yet to form a string of 5 good games lol..

[SupremeGuy]

Short bus isn't complete without the resident crack head. What's up bruhlol cavs fan
lol lebron fan
lol scared shitless of Kawhi
lol cleveland
lol lebron will probably leave again
lol joestradamus :lol

[rmt]

Pop " You didn't need to sxore, but you were a great leader out there"

translation

Give the ball to kawhi, you're stagnating the offense..:lol

Yep. I'm sure, Pop, (along with the rest of us) sees that the ball movement is worse with Parker. Dribble, dribble, dribble, pick and roll. Now why did he give him $15million at 36 years old - must be payback for his last "very reasonable" contract.

[RD2191]

Tgy used to be a solid poster but his hate on Kawhi is retarded. Finals MVP. Dude is the reason Duncan got 5.

[Hoops Czar]

lol cavs fan
lol lebron fan
lol scared shitless of Kawhi
lol cleveland
lol lebron will probably leave again
lol joestradamus :lol


Are you seeing Harlem's psychiatrist? Another bitter heatle bandwagoner whom Lebron left out in the cold.

[hater]

The Spurs go as Far as MVParker Takes Em

I'm glad Pop has been paying attention :tu

[hater]

- Gregg Popovich

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Seems like Pop hasn't been impressed with this Kawhi oriented offense, IMO. Parker is the head of the snake, and he knows this.. Here's to a better 2nd half of the season for our leader :tu

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[weeks]

TP played like a donkey's ass in the finals and semi finals the spurs still won\

:lmao
gotta get there first.
zero faith that patty and cojo can do it.
if tp doesn't pick up his game, then i guess we'll all find out come april

[TheGreatYacht]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1538807!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/crash6n-5-web.jpg
:lmao

[Brazil]

:lol of course he's going to say this, Enrique is one of the most sensitive players in recent history..

Pop's "wired "moment in last year's playoffs(where he praised Tony for not getting in the way of the rest of the team and disguising it as "leadership") was one of the most condescending things I have ever seen in sports:lol..

you are trying to post the most retarded stuff ever or something ? new schtick ?

Parker received the most shit from a coach in front of the camera in the entire NBA history... sensitive :lol

[dabom]

you are trying to post the most retarded stuff ever or something ? new schtick ?

Parker received the most shit from a coach in front of the camera in the entire NBA history... sensitive :lol

Parker crying. :lmao

[dabom]

Sup Dabom

I'm right here. :lmao

[in2deep]

zero faith that patty and cojo can do it.

love them but this is true. They are backups

[dabom]

love them but this is true. They are backups

They have consistently played better than parker in the playoffs and regular season.
I have more faith in backups than tony tbh.

[in2deep]

They have consistently played better than parker in the playoffs and regular season.

lie


I have more faith in backups than tony tbh.

then you must want to go out in round 1 or 2

[timtonymanu]

He still is the Parker of past years. He still chokes in the playoffs.

[TheGreatYacht]

Didn't Pop have "a talk" with Kawhi during the Finals? :lol probably questioned his manhood, Kawhi got sensitive, and went on to abuse his Lewis mismatch.

[TheGoldStandard]

Cory Joseph saved the playoffs last season when he came in and went full force on Ibaka.

[dabom]

lie



then you must want to go out in round 1 or 2

Are you a fucking moron? Like look in the mirror and check.

[dabom]

Didn't Pop have "a talk" with Kawhi during the Finals? :lol probably questioned his manhood, Kawhi got sensitive, and went on to abuse his Lewis mismatch.

joestrafaggot. :lmao

"I only follow that spurs hating cavs faggot from nowhere for no reason." :lmao

[Hoops Czar]

gotta get there first.
zero faith that patty and cojo can do it.
if tp doesn't pick up his game, then i guess we'll all find out come april

The pain and truth in this post will only truly be realized after Ginobili retires.

[dabom]

:lmao Everybody knows Leonard is by far the most sensitive player on the team. He might go down as one of the most babied Spurs in team history.

:lmao

[Hoops Czar]

:lmao

"Nobody puts baby in the corner."

[dabom]

"Nobody puts baby in the corner."

Kawhi pretty much destroyed lebron's legacy. 2/5 :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Giving Kawhi credit for something the team did.

Player fans, smfh.

[dabom]

Giving Kawhi credit for something the team did.

Player fans, smfh.

Incognito cavs fan. :lmao

[RD2191]

Kawhi pretty much destroyed lebron's legacy. 2/5 :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

I especially love the Spurs "fans" on this forum who suddenly know more about basketball than Popovich.

[dabom]

I especially love the Spurs "fans" on this forum who suddenly know more about basketball than Popovich.

No coach has ever played mind games to the media especially not pop. :lmao

[Hoops Czar]

Kawhi pretty much destroyed lebron's legacy. 2/5 :lmao

Is this like saying "Kawhi at 23 is more accomplished than dirk at 40"? Somehow, I think Lebron will live.

2013: 25/11/7 - Championship
2014: 28ppg, 57% fg, 52% 3pt fg

[dabom]

Is this like saying "Kawhi at 23 is more accomplished than dirk at 40"? Somehow, I think Lebron will live.

2013: 25/11/7 - Championship
2014: 28ppg, 57% fg, 52% 3pt fg

You've never heard of stat padding? :lmao

[SupremeGuy]

Kawhi pretty much destroyed lebron's legacy. 2/5 :lmaoThe fact that only cavs fans and bitches are in here defending TP and attacking Kawhi should tell you everything there is to know about the two players, tbh.

[KL2]

Any franchise dedicating $15 million per year to a player will suffer if that player isn't close to fulfilling that contract :lol common sense.

Spurs still better without TP tho lmao.

[Hoops Czar]

You've never heard of stat padding? :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4pyUoVoGwk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3asH2NzxAMM

:lmao Stat padding.

[coachmac87]

Simply saying he needs to play better...which 100% of us agree on.

But damn the hate is real...

[hater]

I especially love the Spurs "fans" on this forum who suddenly know more about basketball than Popovich.

:lmao short bus

[NASpurs]

Spurs will do what they always do, try and hide him on defense. If he can't be hidden, they'll put him on the opposing PG. If the opposing PG is above average and Parker gets his shit pushed in per par(the offense always seems to take a nose-dive for some reason), he'll just get some "mysterious" injury at the most opportune time waiting for a Speedy Claxton/Patty Mills-type players to save the championship run. Parkertard Human Centipede reaching like usual.

[Hoops Czar]

Harlem's crew doing some serious work in this thread... Daboob, Supreme Idiot, TimTonyManu, KL2, soc_9

[hater]

I don't think we'll even make WCF if TP continues playing like dogshit.

Love me some Cojo and Mills but I'm not confident in their ability to orchestrate this offense for three rounds in the West

This guy gets it. Props

[RD2191]

Spurs will do what they always do, try and hide him on defense. If he can't be hidden, they'll put him on the opposing PG. If the opposing PG is above average and Parker gets his shit pushed in per par(the offense always seems to take a nose-dive for some reason), he'll just get some "mysterious" injury at the most opportune time waiting for a Speedy Claxton/Patty Mills-type players to save the championship run. Parkertard Human Centipede reaching like usual.
NA going in raw.

[hater]

:lmao Everybody knows Leonard is by far the most sensitive player on the team. He might go down as one of the most babied Spurs in team history.

Another guy with his thinking cap on. It's rare these days :lol

[KL2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4pyUoVoGwk

:lmao Stat padding.

Allow me to shit on you real quick.

I'll do a quick break down of the first vid for you.

1st Q:
-Parker doesn't recover to cover Lebron stays on Miller (bc we know Miller>>LBJ) wide open layup for Lebron, 10:00
-Wade mismatch with TD (prolly had something to do with TP tbh), draws in help defense or else it's an easy layup, Lebron scores 6:20
-Simple assist (an assist any player can make) 4:30

2nd Q:
-Parker hero balling, Lebron rebound, 1v1 fast break at full speed, Green foul (all bc Enrique lmao) 6:30
-Pull up 3 against Green, 5:40
-Allen posts Neal (Neal=Liablity), sucks in defense (KY), Lebron 3pter 2:45
-Enrique can't guard Chalolmers (couldn't the whole series), Chalolmers sucks in defense, Heat draw mismatches, Lebron easily gets to the rim, and it's over. :40

3rd Q:
-Enrique leaves LBJ wide open in the corner (Bc we know Miller>>>>LBJ), Verde had no time to recover, 3 ball 10:00


Do I need to go on?

[Hoops Czar]

Allow me to shit on you real quick.

I'll do a quick break down of the first vid for you.

1st Q:
-(1)Parker doesn't recover to cover Lebron stays on Miller (bc we know Miller>>LBJ) wide open layup for Lebron, 10:00
-Wade mismatch with TD ((2)prolly had something to do with TP tbh), draws in help defense or else it's an easy layup, Lebron scores 6:20
-Simple assist (an assist any player can make) 4:30

2nd Q:
-Parker hero balling, Lebron rebound, 1v1 fast break at full speed, Green foul (all bc Enrique lmao) 6:30
-(3)Pull up 3 against Green, 5:40
-Allen posts Neal (Neal=Liablity), sucks in defense (KY), Lebron 3pter 2:45
-Enrique can't guard Chalolmers (couldn't the whole series), Chalolmers sucks in defense, Heat draw mismatches, Lebron easily gets to the rim, and it's over. :40

3rd Q:
-Enrique leaves LBJ wide open in the corner (Bc we know Miller>>>>LBJ), Verde had no time to recover, 3 ball 10:00


(4)Do I need to go on?

(1) Don't want shoeless Mike Miller going off, tbh. 2>3
(2) TP fetish, tbh
(3) You'd better jump off Green's dick right now before Chinook finds this post. .
(4) Yes. Please dissect the play at 5:30.

That wasn't even a dig at Leonard. I was merely showing that he was getting whatever he wanted with or without Leonard on the court.

[ElNono]

Is 29 games enough time for Parker to turn his season around? […] “I don’t know, but he’s serious about it and that’s good,” Popovich said. “He’s the main part of our game as far as pace and scoring. He makes a lot happen when he’s getting 18, 20, 26 points. There are not many nights when Timmy (Duncan) or Manu (Ginobili) or going to get 26 or 28, but the teams we are playing have a lot of those guys. Tony is our guy and we need that back.”

About time Pop calls him out, tbh... We're all rooting for Tony to turn the corner... je suis Tony, tbh

[Robz4000]

So basically the Spurs are fucked. Great.

[Cry Havoc]

Is 29 games enough time for Parker to turn his season around? […] “I don’t know, but he’s serious about it and that’s good,” Popovich said. “He’s the main part of our game as far as pace and scoring. He makes a lot happen when he’s getting 18, 20, 26 points. There are not many nights when Timmy (Duncan) or Manu (Ginobili) or going to get 26 or 28, but the teams we are playing have a lot of those guys. Tony is our guy and we need that back.”

About time Pop calls him out, tbh... We're all rooting for Tony to turn the corner... je suis Tony, tbh

All minus 4 or 5 people. Or more realistically, 1 or 2 people who frequent the use of the "log out" button.

[Raven]

i agree tbh

[Hoops Czar]

you are trying to post the most retarded stuff ever or something ? new schtick ?

Parker received the most shit from a coach in front of the camera in the entire NBA history... sensitive :lol

THIS!!! Parker's the poster child for verbal coaching abuse. Pop's done everything short off pulling down his pants and lowering the boom on TP's forehead. I can't remember him ever raising his voice to Leonard.

[J_Paco]

All minus 4 or 5 people. Or more realistically, 1 or 2 people who frequent the use of the "log out" button.

Stupid and pathetic how this annoying schtick has continued on through last season's playoffs and this regular season. Tony needs to turn it around and begin to play much better or the alternative is relying on an undersized Patty Mills and (still) green Cory Joseph to run the show. I love both guys a lot but don't believe they are good enough to pilot a NBA Championship team not matter what Harlem and his crew of trolls (account[s]) think.

[spurtech09]

Tp wasn't Tp last yr. and the spurs still won a championship

[EVAY]

THIS!!! Parker's the poster child for verbal coaching abuse. Pop's done everything short off pulling down his pants and lowering the boom on TP's forehead. I can't remember him ever raising his voice to Leonard.

I have to assume that lots of these guys are too young to have remembered the screaming and yelling and repeated public abuse that Pop heaped on Tony during games, until Tony learned to do what Pop wants him to do. Even the national press used to call Tony Pop's "whipping boy".

[apalisoc_9]

Tp wasn't Tp last yr. and the spurs still won a championship

[Malik Hairston]

Statistically, 2014 Parker had one of the worst deep playoff runs in NBA history for a high-usage player, tbh..

[Wildcat67]

What does any of that quote have to do with Kawhi? So Pop is calling out Tony saying we need him to play better and you somehow take that as a knock on Kawhi?

[apalisoc_9]

Statistically, 2014 Parker had one of the worst deep playoff runs in NBA history for a high-usage player, tbh..

But the eye test!

[Malik Hairston]

But the eye test!

:lmao :(Spurs shot open 3s because of Parker's penetration, despite being statistically better when he was on the bench in the playoffs:(

[rasuo214]

What does any of that quote have to do with Kawhi? So Pop is calling out Tony saying we need him to play better and you somehow take that as a knock on Kawhi?

Everything about Tony is about Kawhi and everything about Kawhi is about Tony.

Truth is the Spurs can't afford to have any of the key guys playing poorly and expect to repeat. Everyone has their role and they all contributed to the championship last season.

[Brazil]

Statistically, 2014 Parker had one of the worst deep playoff runs in NBA history for a high-usage player, tbh..

:lol you are a clown tbh

you think you did not hear you the 150 first times you said that tbh ?

[mkurts]

Tp wasn't Tp last yr. and the spurs still won a championship

Because he wasn't there at all times to block ball movement with his awesome dribbling. He was great once, but no longer and he has to suck it up, and adapt to the new small dick he has

[SupremeGuy]

Tp wasn't Tp last yr. and the spurs still won a championshipJust ignore the Cavs fans(HoopsCrap & TGY); they're salty as fuck that Kawhi pushed their hero's shit in, tbh.

The other parkertards say bullshit like CoJo and Patty can't be counted in the playoffs... but then they cry and say that we can't use last fucking year's playoffs as an example that not only can they play PO ball but they can be pretty fucking good.

Look, I get it, a healthy TP is nothing but a positive for our team. But, if he doesn't show that he's capable of playing at a high level THIS YEAR we need to give CoJo and Patty more burn, tbh. That's just the fucking truth.

[100%duncan]

Lol joestradamus

[DesignatedT]

Pop just stating the obvious and who knows if Pop actually believes that or not but I am definitely glad Pop is putting the pressure on Tony. He knows Tony has been playing like shit and indirectly calling him out by stating how important he is, is classic pop. Lets hope Tony can find one more burst of great basketball.

[Diego20]

:lol of course he's going to say this, Enrique is one of the most sensitive players in recent history..

Pop's "wired "moment in last year's playoffs(where he praised Tony for not getting in the way of the rest of the team and disguising it as "leadership") was one of the most condescending things I have ever seen in sports:lol..

[KL2]

(1) Don't want shoeless Mike Miller going off, tbh. 2>3
(2) TP fetish, tbh
(3) You'd better jump off Green's dick right now before Chinook finds this post. .
(4) Yes. Please dissect the play at 5:30.

That wasn't even a dig at Leonard. I was merely showing that he was getting whatever he wanted with or without Leonard on the court.


-So you would rather have Lebron who is far more dangerous lol?

-Parker, Neal, Bonner, if you suck, you are hurting your teammates. Green/Leonard have huge responsibilities covering these scrubs asses for years on the defensive end, it makes their job 2x as hard and makes these players look decent, I know you Parker fans love to blame his teammates for his struggles :lol. That's classic hero balling, and it's what hurts the team over and over again lmao, easy buckets for the other team off forced shots.

-Nothing you can do about that play right there, Lebron had an easy jumper the minute Parker was on him.

Lebron wasn't doing what he wanted, he was doing what the Spurs allowed him to do and what was created by his teammates (what many people label as a system player lmao). Watch his '07 Finals highlights, he was getting to the rim against Bowen, getting great position to distribute, score, rebound, sucking in upwards of 4 players making his entire team better, Bowen did not inhibit his ability to get to the basket in any way like Leonard. The difference is prime Duncan was all over the place, covering for Bowen, no great supporting cast either allowing them to pack the paint.

A player's position matters in the NBA :lol, and he couldn't get in consistent position against Leonard which forced him to settle for jumpers.

[HI-FI]

Spurs will do what they always do, try and hide him on defense. If he can't be hidden, they'll put him on the opposing PG. If the opposing PG is above average and Parker gets his shit pushed in per par(the offense always seems to take a nose-dive for some reason), he'll just get some "mysterious" injury at the most opportune time waiting for a Speedy Claxton/Patty Mills-type players to save the championship run. Parkertard Human Centipede reaching like usual.
the goods.

strange quote from Pop when Spurs shit the bed repeatedly with Parker as the head of the snake. This has to be more about boosting his confidence, getting him out of his slump.

[Diego20]

He still is the Parker of past years. He still chokes in the playoffs.


:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Lol joestradamus
That's not me. But Lol Phillipines

[SupremeGuy]

Lol joestradamusFor real lol I wonder if the genuine parkertards realize they're agreeing with cavs/lebron fans just looking to hate on Kawhi and the Spurs. TGY and HC are salty as fuck. :lol

[SupremeGuy]

That's not me. But Lol PhillipinesFucking joestradamus :lmao You got outed bitch. You know you would have made a new account already if the admins were accepting new accounts.

[SpurSwag]

You guys are dumb as hell if you don't think we need TP to be great to win, especially considering how great the west is. People really think our ball movement is so transcendent that it can overcome the fact that Tim and Manu have fallen off pretty noticably as scorers, that Kawhi isn't ready to be a 1st option, and that Boris isn't at the level he was last year. We need Tony to be able to score the ball at will sometimes, sure we don't always need him putting up ~15 shots a night but there are times where we will need scorign from him and if he can't give it to us in those times, we are fucked. He's the fucking coach he knows more about this than we do, trust him when he says we need Tony

[hater]

Truth nukes ^

:lol short bus

[TheGreatYacht]

You guys are dumb as hell if you don't think we need TP to be great to win, especially considering how great the west is. People really think our ball movement is so transcendent that it can overcome the fact that Tim and Manu have fallen off pretty noticably as scorers, that Kawhi isn't ready to be a 1st option, and that Boris isn't at the level he was last year. We need Tony to be able to score the ball at will sometimes, sure we don't always need him putting up ~15 shots a night but there are times where we will need scorign from him and if he can't give it to us in those times, we are fucked. He's the fucking coach he knows more about this than we do, trust him when he says we need Tony
Are you a preacher? Keep preaching bruh :tu

[SupremeGuy]

You guys are dumb as hell if you don't think we need TP to be great to win, especially considering how great the west is. People really think our ball movement is so transcendent that it can overcome the fact that Tim and Manu have fallen off pretty noticably as scorers, that Kawhi isn't ready to be a 1st option, and that Boris isn't at the level he was last year. We need Tony to be able to score the ball at will sometimes, sure we don't always need him putting up ~15 shots a night but there are times where we will need scorign from him and if he can't give it to us in those times, we are fucked. He's the fucking coach he knows more about this than we do, trust him when he says we need TonyI haven't seen you make a single positive post about the Spurs; meanwhile, you making nothing but positive posts about OKC.

No, I didn't go through your post history or anything gay like that, but just from what I've seen today.

[SpurSwag]

I haven't seen you make a single positive post about the Spurs; meanwhile, you making nothing but positive posts about OKC.

No, I didn't go through your post history or anything gay like that, but just from what I've seen today.

Why would I have anything positive to say about the spurs, they didn't do anything. Not being a troll or anything, I'm a diehard spurs fan and OKC is one of my least favorite teams in the league. But just because all of that is true doesn't mean I can't appreciate a team getting better, and OKC did just that. People on this forum are so concerned with repping their teams that they act like they aren't fans of basketball in general, and I am. Do i want the thunder to win it all? Fuck no. But can I objectively look at what they've done and see it realistically happening? After these deals, maybe. As to my state as a spurs fan, I'm as confident as ever that they'll win it all. This year more than any other is just about making it into the playoffs, fuck seeding. As long as the spurs get in, whether its the 3 seed or the 8, i'll be happy if they're healthy

[SpurSwag]

I'm not really confident this current spurs team would win it all if the playoffs started now, but I'm pretty confident that Boris is coasting, that Danny is just kinda off from 3, that Manu and Tim are rusty/coasting, and that Tony is recovering still. Hopefully this extended all star break did work for him, and hopefully patty has completely worked off the rust. But if this team gets to the playoffs clicking like they were in the Portland series, the Thunder series, and especially the Heat series, we'll be fine. My personal opinion is that as great as the Warriors, Grizz, Rockets, or any other team has been, there isn't a team in the league that would have beaten last year's Spurs. Hopefully we get to that level

[100%duncan]

That's not me. But Lol Phillipines

Lol making fun of the dead
Lol cleveland
Lol ya look like a faggot in real life

[ElNono]

If the Spurs can play at last playoffs' level, then yeah, Tony can take the playoffs off, tbh... He can go start France's training camp early, and come over for the Riverwalk parade....

But it's extremely difficult to play at such a high level for a long enough stretch, so you definitely want to have all your horses healthy. It's just a matter of common sense.

[Malik Hairston]

Lol making fun of the dead
Lol cleveland
Lol ya look like a faggot in real life

:lmao..

[SupremeGuy]

Why would I have anything positive to say about the spurs, they didn't do anything. Not being a troll or anything, I'm a diehard spurs fan and OKC is one of my least favorite teams in the league. But just because all of that is true doesn't mean I can't appreciate a team getting better, and OKC did just that. People on this forum are so concerned with repping their teams that they act like they aren't fans of basketball in general, and I am. Do i want the thunder to win it all? Fuck no. But can I objectively look at what they've done and see it realistically happening? After these deals, maybe. As to my state as a spurs fan, I'm as confident as ever that they'll win it all. This year more than any other is just about making it into the playoffs, fuck seeding. As long as the spurs get in, whether its the 3 seed or the 8, i'll be happy if they're healthyThe Spurs have the same team that won the ship last year. We've dealt with injuries to nearly everyone and have barely gotten the team healthy. The Spurs win with familiarity, not adding players. That's how it's always been, and how it'll be in the foreseeable future. How did OKC get better? They just lost a top 3-4 player on their team and added Kanter? lol C'mon.

[hater]

Pop's quotes repeated on TNT national tv tbh.

Resonating...

[SpurSwag]

The Spurs have the same team that won the ship last year. We've dealt with injuries to nearly everyone and have barely gotten the team healthy. The Spurs win with familiarity, not adding players. That's how it's always been, and how it'll be in the foreseeable future. How did OKC get better? They just lost a top 3-4 player on their team and added Kanter? lol C'mon.

I really don't think Reggie Jackson was helping them for the past month or so, he seemed more like a cancer than anything. They flipped perkins and reggie jackson into kanter, augustin (a very skilled player with far less entitlement than reggie), singler who is decent, and novak who sucks but whatever. Kanter is far more useful than Perkins on this team too

[hater]

Damn I didn't know they got Augustin.

Fuck.

[TheGreatYacht]

Lol making fun of the dead
Lol cleveland
Lol ya look like a faggot in real life
Lol that's not me :lol
Lol Marquez :lol
Lol lil dick :lol

[100%duncan]

Lol that's not me :lol
Lol Marquez :lol
Lol lil dick :lol

Thinking im a pac fan :lmao
Faggot looking bullied dude in highschool :lmao
ohio :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Thinking im a pac fan :lmao
Faggot looking bullied dude in highschool :lmao
ohio :lmao
Lol hates the only person to come out that shit hole :lol
Lol not me :lol
Lol Armpit of Asia :lol

[100%duncan]

Lol hates the only person to come out that shit hole :lol
Lol not me :lol
Lol Armpit of Asia :lol

Thinking i hate pac :lmao
Joestrafaggot :lmao
Exposed :lmao
Cavs :lmao

[hater]

chill out girls.

Back on topic. Parker is playing great :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

Head of the Snake:
15pts, 7pts, 6-11, 0TO's

"Forget the Big 3, you're the Big 1":
2pts, 4ast, 1-10, 2TO's

[hater]

7-12 9 assists 19 pts :wow

[lefty]

Lol stat padding

[hater]

carrying us while the "future of the spurs" shit the bed

tbh

[SupremeGuy]

I really don't think Reggie Jackson was helping them for the past month or so, he seemed more like a cancer than anything. They flipped perkins and reggie jackson into kanter, augustin (a very skilled player with far less entitlement than reggie), singler who is decent, and novak who sucks but whatever. Kanter is far more useful than Perkins on this team tooWho's going to get less minutes for Singler and Novak? Also, I don't agree with your assessment of Kanter and Porkins. While Porkins didn't really do anything on the stat sheet, he did add veteran toughness. They don't have that anymore. I do agree with that Augustin is skilled, but I don't see him being the spark off the bench that Reggie was, not even close.

[lefty]

TP destroyed by CP3 in the 4th quarter

[hater]

kawhi 1-11

Manu 5 TOs

smh

[ElNono]

Tony had a great game, tbh... he got his... unfortunately, it didn't translate to a W.... hard to win when Kawhi and Manu don't have good games these days...

[lefty]

kawhi 1-11

Manu 5 TOs

smh

Yeah they played at Parker4thquarter level tonight

[hater]

this is getting alarming fellas.

very little time for Parker to realistically bounce back. He is not the type of player that can magically "turn it on".

IMO now it would take a "small miracle" for Parker to get it together in time. Here's to hoping because we are not going anywhere without our MVP

[Malik Hairston]

this is getting alarming fellas.

very little time for Parker to realistically bounce back. He is not the type of player that can magically "turn it on".

IMO now it would take a "small miracle" for Parker to get it together in time

Last year's regular season:

http://i59.tinypic.com/154ktbt.png

Last year's playoffs:

http://i62.tinypic.com/vsni52.jpg

[hater]

I watch the games tbh. Tony was still the main creator last year. Entire defenses were aligned to guard him.

[RD2191]

Spurs won despite parker last season. We aren't the dubs/clips/bulls. We don't rely on our pg to win games. Dudes are fucking retarded up here.

[Malik Hairston]

^^Ya that makes plenty of sense..the team was literally better without him during both the regular season and playoffs, but ya, they want as far as he took them:lmao..

[hater]

- Gregg Popovich

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[RD2191]

Are you a preacher? Keep preaching bruh :tu
Slurp slurp slurp

[in2deep]

You guys are dumb as hell if you don't think we need TP to be great to win, especially considering how great the west is. People really think our ball movement is so transcendent that it can overcome the fact that Tim and Manu have fallen off pretty noticably as scorers, that Kawhi isn't ready to be a 1st option, and that Boris isn't at the level he was last year. We need Tony to be able to score the ball at will sometimes, sure we don't always need him putting up ~15 shots a night but there are times where we will need scorign from him and if he can't give it to us in those times, we are fucked. He's the fucking coach he knows more about this than we do, trust him when he says we need Tony

Yes. I agree. We don't have anyone who can score at will this season. Parker (even in the playoffs and finals of last season) was able to do that at least 4-5 times a game. Now we don't have that.

[ElNono]

^^Ya that makes plenty of sense..the team was literally better without him during both the regular season and playoffs, but ya, they want as far as he took them:lmao..

This is Pop trying to make Tony feel important, tbh... it's like that condescending "great leadership" (aka: thanks for getting out of the way) Finals talk...

What really sucks is that's still not working...

[Malik Hairston]

Yes. I agree. We don't have anyone who can score at will this season. Parker (even in the playoffs and finals of last season) was able to do that at least 4-5 times a game. Now we don't have that.

Forget the trolling and feuds, I just want your opinion..basketball-wise, why do you think the Spurs were significantly worse when Parker was on the floor in last year's regular season and playoffs?

[EVAY]

^^^^The other day it was Pop was "calling him out", now it is "Pop is trying to make Tony feel important". Is there a possibility that Pop considers the 2013 Parker to be critical to the team getting its offensive mojo back?

I don't think we are going to see a 2013 Parker any time soon (no evidence of him this season), but we certainly haven't seen a 'hero-balling" Tony lately either, and for the longest time his 'taking too many shots' was the conventional wisdom's take on why the team looked so bad.

Can we be a bit honest here and admit that outside of Tim Duncan NO ONE ON THE TEAM looks decent of late? No one.

[ElNono]

^^^^The other day it was Pop was "calling him out", now it is "Pop is trying to make Tony feel important". Is there a possibility that Pop considers the 2013 Parker to be critical to the team getting its offensive mojo back?

I don't think we are going to see a 2013 Parker any time soon (no evidence of him this season), but we certainly haven't seen a 'hero-balling" Tony lately either, and for the longest time his 'taking too many shots' was the conventional wisdom's take on why the team looked so bad.

Can we be a bit honest here and admit that outside of Tim Duncan NO ONE ON THE TEAM looks decent of late? No one.

I think Pop is pulling all the stops, tbh... as he should.

[Perry Mason]

It is clear that Pop knows he needs TP. Fairyston and his transparent alt accounts can troll to save face, but the reality is that Pop knows what all informed posters know -- TP is the key to drawing attention and creating the mismatches that the Spurs need to run the offense day in and day out.

If you run Pop's system with a bunch of scrubs, you have Philadelphia. You still need elite players. TP has been that guy for the last 3 years. This year he has either lost his mojo, is hurting, or some combination thereof. I guarantee he and Pop talk about it. I guarantee we will never hear what the story really is. But shitty posters can keep bringing this forum into the toilet.

[TheGreatYacht]

It is clear that Pop knows he needs TP. Fairyston and his transparent alt accounts can troll to save face, but the reality is that Pop knows what all informed posters know -- TP is the key to drawing attention and creating the mismatches that the Spurs need to run the offense day in and day out.

If you run Pop's system with a bunch of scrubs, you have Philadelphia. You still need elite players. TP has been that guy for the last 3 years. This year he has either lost his mojo, is hurting, or some combination thereof. I guarantee he and Pop talk about it. I guarantee we will never hear what the story really is. But shitty posters can keep bringing this forum into the toilet.

[Malik Hairston]

It is clear that Pop knows he needs TP. Fairyston and his transparent alt accounts can troll to save face, but the reality is that Pop knows what all informed posters know -- TP is the key to drawing attention and creating the mismatches that the Spurs need to run the offense day in and day out.

If you run Pop's system with a bunch of scrubs, you have Philadelphia. You still need elite players. TP has been that guy for the last 3 years. This year he has either lost his mojo, is hurting, or some combination thereof. I guarantee he and Pop talk about it. I guarantee we will never hear what the story really is. But shitty posters can keep bringing this forum into the toilet.

All trolling aside, why do you think the Spurs were significantly better without Parker on the floor last season and in last year's playoffs? Just wondering what your take is, tbh..it wasn't a slight improvement without him, it was a dramatic and substantial improvement..




Last year's regular season:

http://i59.tinypic.com/154ktbt.png

Last year's playoffs:

http://i62.tinypic.com/vsni52.jpg

Give me a response without antiquated basketball cliches, please..I know that's going to be difficult for your Barkley/Byron Scott-idolizing ass, but try it..

[Johnny RIngo]

^^^^The other day it was Pop was "calling him out", now it is "Pop is trying to make Tony feel important". Is there a possibility that Pop considers the 2013 Parker to be critical to the team getting its offensive mojo back?

I don't think we are going to see a 2013 Parker any time soon (no evidence of him this season), but we certainly haven't seen a 'hero-balling" Tony lately either, and for the longest time his 'taking too many shots' was the conventional wisdom's take on why the team looked so bad.

Can we be a bit honest here and admit that outside of Tim Duncan NO ONE ON THE TEAM looks decent of late? No one.

We haven't seen it because he's unable to heroball anymore. When TP's not scoring, he's useless. That's why he looks so awful right now. Without the ability to penetrate, his offensive repertoire is no different than Bruce Bowen's. Other great point guards either have elite shooting or passing. TP has neither.

[Sean Cagney]

We haven't seen it because he's unable to heroball anymore. When TP's not scoring, he's useless. That's why he looks so awful right now. Without the ability to penetrate, his offensive repertoire is no different than Bruce Bowen's. Other great point guards either have elite shooting or passing. TP has neither.

Yep, his game relies or relied on speed similar to AI's, once that was gone most of his game was gone. If you rely on one thing to be dominant and do not develop other parts of your game like say Tim Duncan would then you don't adapt. He relies on speed, that is not good long term. Tony lost a step, his game fell off big time. I hope he is just hurt but I doubt that is it in all reality.

[KL2]

Parker has always relied on the system to initially create separation for him (through play calling and Duncan screens), gets the mismatch, lets his speed create the rest of the separation with slight body contact at the end to create the rest of separation, if it's a shot blocker on him he'll just rinse and repeat without success, severely limited offensive player. Less Illgauskus, Goodens, Currys of the NBA, more mobile big men that can alter Parker's shot.

PG's are getting much bigger and stronger too, not seeing as many 6'2 180lb guys, and if they are, they've got sick athleticism Parker can't guard. TP can't make it in the new NBA without a prime TD by his side, no coincidence as he declines, Parker declines. Defensively he hasn't been able to guard anyone in years.

[EVAY]

We haven't seen it because he's unable to heroball anymore. When TP's not scoring, he's useless. That's why he looks so awful right now. Without the ability to penetrate, his offensive repertoire is no different than Bruce Bowen's. Other great point guards either have elite shooting or passing. TP has neither.

I happen to agree with this. His value has always been his ability and willingness to execute Pop's offense. But you are right, his ability to do that was largely a function of his speed and stamina. He used to show a lot of courage penetrating in the paint, but he can't do that with enough speed to get to the rim without the ball being stripped anymore. He developed a decent floater, but I haven't seen any of that lately and have no idea what happened to it.

All this is to say, he looks terrible this year. It just baffles me how a guy can start missing shots that he made his entire career unless he is injured (and there is no evidence of that anymore). But it has happened to more than Tony this year. It has happened to Manu and Marco and Kawhi and Patty. And I don't think they are injured either.

[Johnny RIngo]

But it has happened to more than Tony this year. It has happened to Manu and Marco and Kawhi and Patty. And I don't think they are injured either.

Manu's 37 which is ancient for a SG. I'm still amazed we were able to get that incredible playoff run from him last year.

Marco has always sucked. If we're talking about overall importance to the Spurs, he's not worth bringing up.

Patty and Kawhi are coming back from injuries that can affect shooting. Shoulder for Patty. Eye and hand for Kawhi. Pop's shit rotations aren't helping them gain any sort of rhythm either.

[in2deep]

Manu's 37 which is ancient for a SG. I'm still amazed we were able to get that incredible playoff run from him last year.

Marco has always sucked. If we're talking about overall importance to the Spurs, he's not worth bringing up.

Patty and Kawhi are coming back from injuries that can affect shooting. Shoulder for Patty. Eye and hand for Kawhi. Pop's shit rotations aren't helping them gain any sort of rhythm either.

If Patty and Kawhi are coming back from injuries, so is Parker.

[spurs10]

I have no reason to believe Pop is playing a mind game or giving false props to Tony. We are looking bad and a big part of it is TP's inability to flip the switch. Yes in game 5 of the Finals he was a non-issue...until the fourth quarter and his play kept the Heat at bay.

[in2deep]

I have no reason to believe Pop is playing a mind game or giving false props to Tony. We are looking bad and a big part of it is TP's inability to flip the switch. Yes in game 5 of the Finals he was a non-issue...until the fourth quarter and his play kept the Heat at bay.

the only posters saying this are the same fans that wished injury on Parker a few weeks back in another thread. I don't think they need to be taken seriously.

[ElNono]

He used to show a lot of courage penetrating in the paint, but he can't do that with enough speed to get to the rim without the ball being stripped anymore. He developed a decent floater, but I haven't seen any of that lately and have no idea what happened to it.

I mentioned a while back that Pop should emphasize more that floater. But for some reason, I've seen the Spurs run a few plays for Tony off the curl, but he's not taking the floater. He goes to the basket and either tries the layup or backs out. You have to wonder if there are confidence issues at this point too. It's pretty brutal to watch your game drop off like that.

[spurs10]

the only posters saying this are the same fans that wished injury on Parker a few weeks back in another thread. I don't think they need to be taken seriously. Yeah, I don't take them seriously or think of them as fans. Pop likely feels the way we all do and hopes Tony can come around. I believe it's a subtle difference but a huge one between being almost healthy and healthy. Yes Cojo has shown a lot of heart , but he isn't on TP's level as far as being a player that team's base their game around. I'm completely grateful to all these guys for giving it all they got year after year. It would make for one hell of a follow up story if they can find themselves!
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[Malik Hairston]

All trolling aside, why do you think the Spurs were significantly better without Parker on the floor last season and in last year's playoffs? Just wondering what your take is, tbh..it wasn't a slight improvement without him, it was a dramatic and substantial improvement..





Give me a response without antiquated basketball cliches, please..I know that's going to be difficult for your Barkley/Byron Scott-idolizing ass, but try it..

Perry Mason