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apalisoc_9
02-21-2015, 12:50 AM
:td

Terrible.

Splitter won't find his game playing limited minutes.

Damn as much as I dislike Parker's game this year, TD being awful defensively in the last 20 games, Kawhi having a tough stretch in the last 4 games..

Pop is really the main reason why this team can't even get a rhythm because he continues tinkering the lineup and playing mind games with Parker, Kawhi, Green, Splitter, and DiawS..

DontStopBelieving
02-21-2015, 12:52 AM
Hate seeing Baynes start

cjw
02-21-2015, 01:27 AM
Maybe something is still wrong with Splitter and the team isn't letting on too much?

TheGoldStandard
02-21-2015, 01:27 AM
Splitter is on his period.. Cramping and might have a yeast infection.. Can't play him long minutes

Slippy
02-21-2015, 01:32 AM
As much I'd like to see split back as starter with more mins, its hard to fault Bayne's game . He's earned his mins and just keeps improving . Plus he plays better with Tim while the Tiago pairing in my mind hasn't been working for a long time.

You also can't go ignore the fact that Tiago doesn't look fit. They were icing his calf during the game . His mobility has slowed and what little jumping ability he did have has deserted him.

Pop on a back to back not adjusting mins and rotations was a mistake. It was obvious Tim's D was of the traffic cone kind and Tony was struggling both ends.

Ditty
02-21-2015, 02:08 AM
Have to agree with you on this one. Even if the offense, and spacing is shit at times with both Tim and Tiago are on the floor the defense is much better and that's what it begins with trying to get back on track. I like Baynes, especially on the offensive end around the basket, but he should only be playing 10-15 minutes a game as a backup center. Baynes isn't going to be playing 20+ minutes hopefully in late April and May anyways.

therealtruth
02-21-2015, 11:48 AM
Have to agree with you on this one. Even if the offense, and spacing is shit at times with both Tim and Tiago are on the floor the defense is much better and that's what it begins with trying to get back on track. I like Baynes, especially on the offensive end around the basket, but he should only be playing 10-15 minutes a game as a backup center. Baynes isn't going to be playing 20+ minutes hopefully in late April and May anyways.

Not if we expect to win. The defense has got to go back to lockdown mode.

jeebus
02-21-2015, 11:51 AM
Truth. Baynes has been shitting defending the 3 point line the past few weeks. Just last night, he let the splash sisters cuck him all night long.

Gagnrath
02-21-2015, 12:08 PM
Truth. Baynes has been shitting defending the 3 point line the past few weeks. Just last night, he let the splash sisters cuck him all night long.
If you are expecting a 6'10" center/PF (and the PF is somewhat questionable... to be defending the 3 point line against a guard and a small forward for more than 3 possessions or so per game he is going to get shit on every time by everyone. If for some weird reason a switch occurs where your big body center is on a PG or most small forwards more than 10 to 12 feet from the basket, he is supposed to hedge about 5 to 7 feet off of the opposing wing so that he can prevent a lay-up and provide help... He is hoping to be close enough to use his length to contest jump shots....

Nero5
02-21-2015, 06:08 PM
Just ignor jeebus he always trolls. Baynes should not be expected to defend out that far, if he is the the defender he is covering for is doing a very poor job...here is the area of inquiry for the splash bros defencive effort.

cjw
02-21-2015, 07:05 PM
Splitter's total lack of shooting range hurts his fit with Duncan. Duncan's hitting the mid-range shot better than earlier in the season, but Baynes can play more than three feet from the basket.

This team will go how Green and Leonard take it. If both start shooting well, things will change dramatically. Can leave Green in for more minutes too.

DesignatedT
02-21-2015, 07:08 PM
Splitter is wrapping that calf heavily when he's on the bench. It's pretty obvious (for those who actually use their brain) that he's still struggling health wise. Guy can barely get off the ground on that calf. It's still bothering him, thus Baynes starts.

Johnny RIngo
02-21-2015, 07:09 PM
Entire team's a mess. It's a combination of role players underperforming(Diaw, Splitter, Mills), the three point shooting taking a nosedive, poor lineups from Pop, and cancerous players getting too much playing time(Parker, Marco). At this rate, the Thunder are going to pass us up.

ducks
02-22-2015, 06:22 PM
:td

Terrible.

Splitter won't find his game playing limited minutes.

Damn as much as I dislike Parker's game this year, TD being awful defensively in the last 20 games, Kawhi having a tough stretch in the last 4 games..

Pop is really the main reason why this team can't even get a rhythm because he continues tinkering the lineup and playing mind games with Parker, Kawhi, Green, Splitter, and DiawS..


yep it is pop fault so stop bashing tp

Johnny RIngo
02-22-2015, 06:24 PM
yep it is pop fault so stop bashing tp

25/11/4/4 - Curry
2/6 - Parker

Yeah, that was all Pop's fault.

ducks
02-22-2015, 11:15 PM
curry post game last game tp owned me I remember that

Johnny RIngo
02-22-2015, 11:51 PM
curry post game last game tp owned me I remember that

Tony Porker fans - always living in the past

apalisoc_9
02-22-2015, 11:54 PM
Tony Porker fans - always living in the past

Malik Hairston
02-23-2015, 12:01 AM
Tony Porker fans - always living in the past

ducks
02-23-2015, 12:07 AM
Tony Porker fans - always living in the past

Yeah last game gs played spurs

Fireball
02-23-2015, 07:48 AM
Maybe something is still wrong with Splitter and the team isn't letting on too much?

Splitter is not healthy. He still treats his calf when he is on the bench. Saw a towel around the calf during a huddle in one of the last two games ... when healthy he will start I guess.

Plum Island
02-23-2015, 10:55 AM
Tony Porker- that got me laughing...

Sad.

All these issues with this team leaves me with a very bad feeling going into these playoffs.
I can only hope things start coming together in the next month and a half.

Tony loses the weight and regains some quickness. Not speed, I don't think that's coming back, but getting his quickness back to form would help.
Kawhi and Danny become more consistent in both their D and shooting.
Splitter heals, Diaw remembers the season started a while ago, Patty gets more consistent, the ball movement gets crisper, they all focus for the full 48,
Pop gets down on a regular rotation and sticks with it (although his regular season tinkering is an every year thing) and figures out how he wants to properly utilize his players for team success.

So much going wrong, for wanting to be on a championship level- that I don't know if things can be steered right in time.

cd021
02-23-2015, 11:50 AM
Baynes isn't great defensively but i'm fine with him starting in a Dejuan Blair type of role. He has been very good finishing around the rim, crashing the glass (and competing for the board even if he doesn't grab it) and hitting the occasional jumper and is a good free throw shooter as well. When (or if) Splitter gets healthy, our bench will be better off with Splitter playing alongside Diaw, Mills, Ginobili and Beli. Splitter is going to have to come off the bench anyway at some point in the postseason.

Skull-1
02-23-2015, 04:06 PM
Tony Porker fans - always living in the past


Bingo.

downunder
02-23-2015, 05:21 PM
Baynes you did a great job and are improving day by day. Who would have thought you would be in the starting 5 and topscore at Spurs. For the nay sayers what would the Spurs have done without him - far far worse.

Fact is Pop has to get his old, weary and injured team to the playoffs and that involves giving them all time to regain fitness. If Splitter is injured you have to rest him not let him aggravate his medical condition. Everyone has to adjust thru this transition until playoffs - just win enough games to get us there. Yeah Duncan you can even shoot threes thru this adjustment. Hopefully all will be well by the playoffs and the big 3 will perform

Last season was not without problems - do you remember Patty incredibly saving lost games as a bit player; Bay
nes will do the same.

Go the Spurs !!!

phxspurfan
02-23-2015, 06:11 PM
Who cares, it's the regular season.

phxspurfan
02-23-2015, 06:12 PM
Splitter is not healthy. He still treats his calf when he is on the bench. Saw a towel around the calf during a huddle in one of the last two games ... when healthy he will start I guess.

I'm sure Pop knows at this point that Splitter is a lot like Manu. Basically, he can't go an entire season or play heavy minutes without getting hurt. So he's saving him for the playoffs.

therealtruth
02-23-2015, 08:11 PM
If you are expecting a 6'10" center/PF (and the PF is somewhat questionable... to be defending the 3 point line against a guard and a small forward for more than 3 possessions or so per game he is going to get shit on every time by everyone. If for some weird reason a switch occurs where your big body center is on a PG or most small forwards more than 10 to 12 feet from the basket, he is supposed to hedge about 5 to 7 feet off of the opposing wing so that he can prevent a lay-up and provide help... He is hoping to be close enough to use his length to contest jump shots....

That's where Splitter excels. He can switch on the small player and still force a tough shot.

Gagnrath
02-25-2015, 03:02 AM
Splitter is better than average at it... or he used to be not so much lately....
Its still a loosing propitiation if its occurring regularly.


His one seeming athletic attribute was good lateral quickness for a big man.

He also has better anticipation than Baynes to cut off passing angles and driving angles. This is partially due to playing more or less professionally since 14 versus Baynes starting high level play much later.

cd021
02-25-2015, 04:05 AM
That's where Splitter excels. He can switch on the small player and still force a tough shot.

There was game early last season where he had to switch onto Klay Thompson late in a close game. He switched seamlessly and forced a contested 26 footer. Thats impressive.

cd021
02-25-2015, 04:13 AM
I'm sure Pop knows at this point that Splitter is a lot like Manu. Basically, he can't go an entire season or play heavy minutes without getting hurt. So he's saving him for the playoffs.

Thats probably most of the reason, i also think that he is experimenting with Baynes. Baynes isn't a good rim protector but offensively he can hit an occasional open jumper and finishes well around the rim. Good FT shooter and competes for every board. For 15-20 minutes to start a game, its worth losing some defense in the starting unit. If Splitter can get back to something close to were he was defensively last season, out bench would be better off with Mills, Ginobili, Belinelli, Diaw and Splitter. Splitter will probably come off the bench anyway if we face GSW, or OKC.

therealtruth
02-25-2015, 10:57 PM
Thats probably most of the reason, i also think that he is experimenting with Baynes. Baynes isn't a good rim protector but offensively he can hit an occasional open jumper and finishes well around the rim. Good FT shooter and competes for every board. For 15-20 minutes to start a game, its worth losing some defense in the starting unit. If Splitter can get back to something close to were he was defensively last season, out bench would be better off with Mills, Ginobili, Belinelli, Diaw and Splitter. Splitter will probably come off the bench anyway if we face GSW, or OKC.

Pop's tried the offense first approach. It doesn't work that's why we were better defensively with Splitter.

cd021
02-25-2015, 11:06 PM
Pop's tried the offense first approach. It doesn't work that's why we were better defensively with Splitter.

The Spurs starting unit over the past season and 1/2 has become less balanced and trending towards a defensive unit. With Parker not getting to the rim, KL & Green not shooting nearly as well along with Duncan not shooting jumpers anymore, the spacing isn't there.

Our bench was a dominant offensive unit and an mediocre defensive unit. Having Splitter off the bench (assuming his defense improves) should better balance both units.

Malik Hairston
02-27-2015, 09:59 PM
Wow, Pop inserting Splitter into the starting lineup..

The basketball mind of the OP is unreal:lmao..

jeebus
02-27-2015, 10:25 PM
:tu Shitter getting the start was a good move. Instead of waiting until the 2nd quarter to start losing by double digits, the Sperms hit that mark halfway through the first

Brunodf
02-28-2015, 12:31 AM
Bump

Malik Hairston
02-28-2015, 12:32 AM
Bump

apalisoc_9
02-28-2015, 03:43 AM
splitter starts and the spurs win big...

What a surprise.

apalisoc_9
02-28-2015, 10:11 PM
Splitter what a difference.

ChumpDumper
02-28-2015, 10:12 PM
Calf healed. Starter starts again.

Quelle suprise.