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Bruno
09-03-2005, 07:08 AM
http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/sports/z1/09-03-05_z1_spor_10.html

NBA: Robinson hopes to stay a Spur
Sept. 3, 2005

By Justin Breen / Post-Tribune staff writer


Glenn Robinson may still be in the San Antonio Spurs’ plans.

The Roosevelt and Purdue star’s agent, Charles Tucker, said the small forward is hoping to sign with the Spurs, if he can cut a deal with the team.

“I want him to go with the Spurs if that works for him because he was successful there,” Tucker said Friday. “If that doesn’t work, we have to go where he can play at.”

The defending-champion Spurs recently signed guards Michael Finley and Nick Van Exel, which might push Robinson out of the equation.

“Michael can play both positions (shooting guard and small forward). I don’t know what that means as it relates to Glenn,” Tucker said. “It might not mean anything. We haven’t heard anything as of yet.”

Robinson averaged 10 points a game for San Antonio after joining the Spurs on April 4 as a free agent. For his career, Robinson has averaged 20.7 points per game.

Tucker said there are 10 or so other unnamed NBA teams that are still working on formulating their rosters. If the Spurs don’t sign Robinson, who’s a free agent after finishing an 11-year deal — which included a one-year extension, Tucker said — those other teams are possibilities.

Tucker said he believes Robinson has three to four good years left. He added that Robinson is dealing better with the death of his mother, Christine Bridgeman, which occurred during last season.

“He’s still working through his mom’s situation,” Tucker said. “I think it’s got a little better. I think he’ll go ahead and try to focus a little on what he’s got to do now.”

ICE3000
09-03-2005, 08:15 AM
I hope the spurs keep Glenn because even though we added NVE and FIN-FIN we couuld always use another potential scoring threat.... those scoring droughts that we go through at times are down-right scary

angel_luv
09-03-2005, 08:16 AM
I thought Robinson wanted to finish his career with the Bucks. Was that someone else?

angel_luv
09-03-2005, 08:18 AM
Ha! I was right!

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22749&highlight=Robinson+Bucks

TDMVPDPOY
09-03-2005, 08:20 AM
I say we offer him the contract we gave finley, if he doesnt bite it then show him the door

angel_luv
09-03-2005, 08:24 AM
I think our roster is prettty much full. For that reason, I don't see the Spurs asking Big Doggie back.

marcus
09-03-2005, 08:32 AM
i would offer him the veteran minimum for one year. So then we trade Barry for Pietrus and we still have a great veteran leader in Robinson.

And Pietrus would cover Brown spot. Then we with the LLE we could sign Barnes for a multi-years contract.

Gummi
09-03-2005, 08:32 AM
I hope the Spurs will retain him. I liked what I saw from him last season and if he's ready to accept a role of limited minutes behind Finley and Barry then I'm all for it. The Spurs will never offer him the same amount they offered Finley; firstly they don't want to because the tax cap, and secondly; why offer a player for a limited role that much money?

marcus
09-03-2005, 08:36 AM
I hope the Spurs will retain him. I liked what I saw from him last season and if he's ready to accept a role of limited minutes behind Finley and Barry then I'm all for it. The Spurs will never offer him the same amount they offered Finley; firstly they don't want to because the tax cap, and secondly; why offer a player for a limited role that much money?

And third they don't have that money, lol.

xcoriate
09-03-2005, 08:41 AM
Give him the vet min or LLE for a year. Theres no minutes to speak of for him though but he could be deadly in a contract year :smokin

Plus him, Barry and Finley all fighting for court time is just a scary proposition. Thats a great role player and 2 former all stars duking it out for minutes on you bench. If you can do that you should.

marcus
09-03-2005, 08:42 AM
Actually i would prefer to sign Kapono to a multi-years deal with the MLE than Matt Barnes.

ChumpDumper
09-03-2005, 08:58 AM
If he wants to join for the minimum knowing how little he would play, who are we to say no?

Brodels
09-03-2005, 09:10 AM
I don't even know that there's going to be a roster spot for him. If he really wants to re-sign with the Spurs, he better think carefully about what he's getting into.

ducks
09-03-2005, 09:12 AM
barry could be traded then big dog would be nice to have

boutons
09-03-2005, 09:16 AM
I would guess at this late point in the off-season, Glenn's just looking to get into any role anywhere from some $$$, a job, pretty much like where he was when the Spurs signed him last spring.

I wonder if he's been keeping himself in shape, a good indicator of his desire to play, and which twice as hard at his age vs. 10 years ago?

BronxCowboy
09-03-2005, 09:23 AM
I could see bringing Glenn back. It wouldn't be a bad move at all. With NVE on board, Barry's services will not be needed at the point and he could be traded for a young project or draft picks (Spurs could use some youth). The bench would feature Finley at off-guard and Robinson at SF. Not too bad.

Marcus Bryant
09-03-2005, 09:28 AM
There are worse things than Glenn Robinson for the vet min.

ducks
09-03-2005, 09:30 AM
big dog has proved he can play d

picnroll
09-03-2005, 09:30 AM
A little surprising that nobody has made any kind of offer to Robinson, at least no publicity about one or even about interest in him.

mattyc
09-03-2005, 09:34 AM
Add a former #1 draft choice 13/14th man?

It's a hard life.

ploto
09-03-2005, 09:36 AM
Spurs have 13 players. If they sign a guy, it will be another project player who will sit with Sean Marks in his street clothes. You think the Spurs have trouble finding minutes with the roster they have, and now you want to add Glenn to that! They need an athletic eager young guy whom they will try to mold.

I also like how simply everyone proposes these trades for Barry-- as if the Spurs haven't tried. It took 2 seasons to trade Malik and that took a stupid Thomas plus 2 first round picks.

waly.mg
09-03-2005, 09:40 AM
Can the spurs make a sing and trade with Other team?

Barry x Robinson and a trade exemption?

wildbill2u
09-03-2005, 09:59 AM
I think our roster is prettty much full. For that reason, I don't see the Spurs asking Big Doggie back.

Didn't they just sign Sean Marks? Is that a waste of 1 million dollars or what? Marks is a nice guy, but a project that hasn't panned out.

I'd rather that money have gone to GRob who can legitimately play in this league.

ChumpDumper
09-03-2005, 10:03 AM
Didn't they just sign Sean Marks? Is that a waste of 1 million dollars or what? Marks is a nice guy, but a project that hasn't panned out.Once again, the league pays half of that, and two years of uncomplaining practice squad duty and towel waving is what we've gotten from him. He's no project -- what you see is what you get.

If you can get GRob to agree to the same for the same money, sign him up too.

picnroll
09-03-2005, 10:33 AM
I just can't see Robinson being happy sitting in street clothes behind the bench.

gameFACE
09-03-2005, 10:40 AM
Unless Barry is traded I don't see the feasibility. I like him, though.

exstatic
09-03-2005, 11:02 AM
...and the hits just keep on coming. Yet another two time AS lining up to play for a (second, in his case) ring for peanuts. He must have gotten nothing but minimum offers and slammed doors, and figures if he going to get vet min, he might as well get a ring to go with it.

I do wonder if he's done the math, and realizes that he's player #14 on the roster.

The Artest Factor
09-03-2005, 11:21 AM
"Big Og" Robinson and Michael Finley are basically the same players at this point. Jump shooters and not much else. Having both around would be redundant.

picnroll
09-03-2005, 11:31 AM
Maybe Big Dog should sign with the Pacers, they don't have much shooting. For instance three point shooting career average best is Jones at .357. That would place him tied for sixth among current Spurs with NVE behind Barry, Bowen, Horry, Finley and Manu. Man does that suck. :lol

spursfaninla
09-03-2005, 11:32 AM
TheArtestDude here just said the first almost-sensible thing I have heard from him. congrats on nearly making sense.

Upon closer inspection, your takes are still wack.

However, Glen played more than serviceable defense with us last year, if you had bothered to watch a game.

Dude, going off rep. from previous years on this board just does not fly, the posters here actually WATCH the games, and stuff, and notice when players shut down the opposing player, and stuff.

Not that Glen was a lock-down defender, but he was no Finley IMO. Now, a year in the "defend or sit" Spurs system, and Finley might start to keep his man in front of him.

Finley is a good passer and will play well in the fast break. Glen has the height (and size) to defend the taller sf's or even switch onto pf's and not be blown away in the post (in a pinch). Finley is a very good 3 pt shooter.

These guys are much more than just mid-range jump shooters.

TwoHandJam
09-03-2005, 11:33 AM
...and the hits just keep on coming. Yet another two time AS lining up to play for a (second, in his case) ring for peanuts. He must have gotten nothing but minimum offers and slammed doors, and figures if he going to get vet min, he might as well get a ring to go with it.

I do wonder if he's done the math, and realizes that he's player #14 on the roster.
Isn't this clamoring of all-stars to play for us just f-ing amazing though? Spurs fans are on cloud 9. :spin

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-03-2005, 11:58 AM
Damn, talk about an embarrassment of riches...

T Park
09-03-2005, 12:25 PM
IR Udrih, keep RObinson active.

Want an active third PG?? BBarry.

Do it Spurs.

Bring the dog back! :)

Brodels
09-03-2005, 01:47 PM
Robinson is still too capable of playing at a high level to be getting almost no minutes and possibly sitting on the IR for extended periods.

There is something to be said about having too much talent and too many options. It's hurt teams in the past.

It's important when building an NBA team to have a mix of players of different skills levels and abilities. And I think it is smart to fill spots with players who have talent levels and expectations that match what the role can provide them.

It worked last season for a short time. But Robinson still has the ability to become one of the better sixth men in the league.

And that's what he should be doing. The Spurs can't offer him that.

Go young with the IR fodder.

Mr. Body
09-03-2005, 02:53 PM
Big Dog's still too much of a potential malcontent to risk it. Besides, it'll be enough of a headache getting time for everybody who already deserves time. If he doesn't sign on with anybody in the offseason - which I find preposterous, what's wrong with people? - the Spurs can always add him later in the season if they have to.

timvp
09-03-2005, 04:32 PM
GRob too? I never thought I'd say this, but the San Antonio Spurs are good enough.

Then again, putting Beno on Rasho on the inactive list wouldn't be the worst thing.

Vashner
09-03-2005, 04:35 PM
"Big Og" Robinson and Michael Finley are basically the same players at this point. Jump shooters and not much else. Having both around would be redundant.

Don'tforget Pop is X military... Military always buys 2 of everything :)
(injury reserves need to be deep)

He can keep Van Excel away from the hookers etc.

Money316
09-03-2005, 06:58 PM
[QUOTE=angel_luv]Ha! I was right!


Yeah why not ... I picked up a couple of stray cats and dogs in my neighborhood last week to round out my pet collection. You can never have too many ....

:fro :fro :fro

Money316
09-03-2005, 07:00 PM
i would offer him the veteran minimum for one year. So then we trade Barry for Pietrus and we still have a great veteran leader in Robinson.

And Pietrus would cover Brown spot. Then we with the LLE we could sign Barnes for a multi-years contract.


Hmmm ....

:fro :fro :fro

Dex
09-03-2005, 07:11 PM
I just can't believe that we're actually to the point where we're going, "Sorry, we have too much talent already. We don't have room for a #1 draft pick, former All-Star player."

Hell, pick him up for the veteran experience and as an added insurance policy. At the point of this article, he has to already know that a) he wouldn't get more than the veteran minimum and b) he's probably not going to get off the bench unless the shit hits the fan. If he's as cool with that as he seems to be, I don't see where you can go wrong.

And to think, a week ago we were sitting around bitching about how pointless this offseason had been.

It's good to be a Spurs fan. :king

Money316
09-03-2005, 07:15 PM
I just can't believe that we're actually to the point where we're going, "Sorry, we have too much talent already. We don't have room for a #1 draft pick, former All-Star player."

Hell, pick him up for the veteran experience and as an added insurance policy. At the point of this article, he has to already know that a) he wouldn't get more than the veteran minimum and b) he's probably not going to get off the bench unless the shit hits the fan. If he's as cool with that as he seems to be, I don't see where you can go wrong.

And to think, a week ago we were sitting around bitching about how pointless this offseason had been.

It's good to be a Spurs fan. :king

No arguement Dex. My strays recently came on the cheap too.

:fro :fro :fro

cherylsteele
09-03-2005, 07:29 PM
If Tim happens to get hurt for any length of time, GRob would be a nice replacement to fill in. Sure, he wouldn't be as good as Tim....but who is?

And having an experienced plyaer like Big Dog as insurance in such a scenario would be great.

TheWriter
09-03-2005, 07:34 PM
If Tim happens to get hurt for any length of time, GRob would be a nice replacement to fill in. Sure, he wouldn't be as good as Tim....but who is?

And having an experienced plyaer like Big Dog as insurance in such a scenario would be great.

Big Dog would be Tim's replacement? WTF? :pctoss

cherylsteele
09-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Big Dog would be Tim's replacement? WTF? :pctoss

Who do we have to fill in?

Horry? maybe...he is more productive off the bench though and then we need to find someone to fill in for him.

Oberto? He has even played.

Wo do we use if Tim goes down like last year? GRob show flashes last year, but his minutes were inconsistant, with a training camp inder his belt he is more able to help out in this way than Horry.

TheWriter
09-03-2005, 08:01 PM
Who do we have to fill in?

Horry? maybe...he is more productive off the bench though and then we need to find someone to fill in for him.

Wo do we use if Tim goes down like last year? GRob show flashes last year, but his minutes were inconsistant, with a training camp inder his belt he is more able to help out in this way than Horry.

Glenn Robinson isn't a power forward/center. Do you even know who Big Dog is?

He's a small forward.

Robinson would get murdered if he tried to play other PF's one on one.

That's like saying Rasho could fill in for Manu if he gets injured.

If Duncan godforbid gets injured of course you use Horry, Oberto, Nazr.

Dex
09-03-2005, 08:01 PM
Who do we have to fill in?

Horry? maybe...he is more productive off the bench though and then we need to find someone to fill in for him.

Oberto? He has even played.

Wo do we use if Tim goes down like last year? GRob show flashes last year, but his minutes were inconsistant, with a training camp inder his belt he is more able to help out in this way than Horry.

GRob's not a PF/C. He's a SG/SF, and would get abused by the real big men in the league.

If Tim should happen to go down, then it will be up to guys like Horry, Oberto, Nazr, and Rasho to step it up.

But let us not speaketh of this blasphemy.

Dex
09-03-2005, 08:02 PM
Wow. I think I owe TheWriter a coke. :lol

Sense
09-03-2005, 08:12 PM
i would offer him the veteran minimum for one year. So then we trade Barry for Pietrus and we still have a great veteran leader in Robinson.

And Pietrus would cover Brown spot. Then we with the LLE we could sign Barnes for a multi-years contract.


You need to forget about Pietrus.

Guru of Nothing
09-03-2005, 08:32 PM
Holy Cow!

If it's up to me, I sign GRob for the min.

As stated a couple of days ago, I think the Spurs have depth such that they could give ALL players extended rest throughout the regular season.

To Pop, I suggest intentionally playing Duncan, Manu and Parker 50 games this season; with the challenge of getting the team to peak in late April. That's crazy talk!

We may see new ground being broke here folks. It's not about minutes per game, it's games played. Would you rather Horry play 12 minutes a game over an 82 game schedule, or have him play 24 minutes for 41 games?

Seriously, just stagger DNPs for the Triplets and let the bench feel their oats, often.

On a related note, David Stern is sitting on a marketing goldmine, with players foresaking millions of dollars to win a ring.

Marcus Bryant
09-03-2005, 08:54 PM
What Glenn Robinson knows is that the Spurs will hold his Early Bird rights next summer if he stays with the Spurs for another season. With NVE and Finley only under contact for one season, it might make sense for Big Dog to stay (and be kept) around.

ChumpDumper
09-03-2005, 09:11 PM
Dude knows what he's getting into.

Sign him up.

Guru of Nothing
09-03-2005, 09:17 PM
What Glenn Robinson knows is that the Spurs will hold his Early Bird rights next summer if he stays with the Spurs for another season. With NVE and Finley only under contact for one season, it might make sense for Big Dog to stay (and be kept) around.

That's news I can use.

Big Dog is more than capable of lighting it up for 30 games or so, probably more.

It's tough to say whether or not NVE and Fin will stick around if they win a ring (though I'm inclined to think they will), but GRob is a rock-solid fit for the Spurs over these next 2-3 years.

Whatever happens, it's good times all around.

cherylsteele
09-03-2005, 09:36 PM
Glenn Robinson isn't a power forward/center. Do you even know who Big Dog is?

He's a small forward.

Robinson would get murdered if he tried to play other PF's one on one.

That's like saying Rasho could fill in for Manu if he gets injured.

If Duncan godforbid gets injured of course you use Horry, Oberto, Nazr.

Big Dog is not a center...that is for sure....do YOU KNOW who he is?

He is 6-7 listed as a forward. If you think he can cover the center in the west then he can certainly cover other forwards. He did avg 10 PPG in limited minutes. And what Big forward will come out to guard him on the perimeter? I am not saying he is the perfect fill in for Tim....only anither Tim is perfect....but he more than sufficient to hold the fort down for a stretch. I hope it doesn't come to that, but if it does...it did last year.....wouldn't it be nice to know someone is there with experience to fill in by putting points on the board?

He can rebound pretty well
And actually is a decent passer.
As a defender he showed he can play some of that too....although it was not often.

I mentioned Horry..or did you not read my post?

Nazr is a center and has hands coated with crisco.

Oberto is unproven.


But let us not speaketh of this blasphemy.

I never said he was a center....Writer brought that up.

I just would like us to cover all our bases....hey timmy went down last year and the team pull it together big time. Without a solid fill in other than Horry who did a fabulous job. But if he filled in who would spell him off the bench. I persinally prefer horry to bring a spark off the bench...that seems to be one of his strongest suits.

Comparing this to Rasho and Manu is not a very good analogy

ChumpDumper
09-03-2005, 10:02 PM
GRob was a bull in the high post last season. He'd work ok at times as a more traditional PF with Nazr or Rasho down low. I'm anxious to see what Oberto can do, but he's not going to be a scoring threat.

cherylsteele
09-03-2005, 10:07 PM
GRob was a bull in the high post last season. He'd work ok at times as a more traditional PF with Nazr or Rasho down low. I'm anxious to see what Oberto can do, but he's not going to be a scoring threat.

Imagine Grob in a P&R with either Finley or NVE? Who do you guard?

i have bone spurs
09-03-2005, 10:16 PM
this team is absolutely spectacular, if robinson comes back. We may win 70 game or more.

Damn it feels good to be a spurs fan

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-04-2005, 07:01 PM
Big Dog's still too much of a potential malcontent to risk it.

Then you can cut him, problem solved.


Glenn Robinson isn't a power forward/center. Do you even know who Big Dog is?

He's a small forward.

Robinson would get murdered if he tried to play other PF's one on one

Using your logic Finley (SF) shouldn't be able to guard Amare (PF/C), but he'll do a better job on Stoudemire than anyone on this team did this past year.

T Park
09-04-2005, 10:14 PM
Is Cheryl for any player??

She doesnt like Rasho, she doesnt like Robinson, she doesnt like Mohammed.


Damn talk about hard to please.

GoSpurs21
09-05-2005, 12:56 AM
sign Robinson to vet min and trade Barry for future considerations and a young tall 3

maddnezz
09-05-2005, 01:13 AM
GRob's not a PF/C. He's a SG/SF, and would get abused by the real big men in the league.

If Tim should happen to go down, then it will be up to guys like Horry, Oberto, Nazr, and Rasho to step it up.

But let us not speaketh of this blasphemy.

maddnezz
09-05-2005, 01:17 AM
[QUOTE=Dex]GRob's not a PF/C. He's a SG/SF, and would get abused by the real big men in the league.

If Tim should happen to go down, then it will be up to guys like Horry, Oberto, Nazr, and Rasho to step it up.

But let us not speaketh of this blasphemy.[/QUOTE

Big Dog aint lite in the ass for a small forward and he aint that short either
a vet knows how to handle his defenseive assignments and by the way who
is really a big power forward out there besides Tim, K.G.,? Glenn gets to practice against Tim evey day people come on now!!!! :smokin