Rondo 'extremely unlikely' to re-sign with Mavs

[Sheriff Hoyt]

ESPN's Tim McMahon reported (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-mavericks/post/_/id/4704721/rondo-carlisle-must-make-it-work-for-now) that there's not much of a chance that Rondo -- an unrestricted free agent this coming summer -- will remain a Maverick long-term:
The root of the Rondo-Carlisle crisis is a simmering disagreement about whether the Mavs were best off with the genius former Coach of the Year or brilliant four-time All-Star point guard calling the majority of the plays.

Rondo, a nine-year veteran with one of the highest basketball IQs in the league, believes that's a big part of his job as a point guard. Carlisle, one of the NBA's best offensive minds, doesn't want to hand the keys of his sports car over to a guy he just met.

It's similar to the friction between Carlisle and future Hall of Fame point guard Jason Kidd during their first season together, except they never had "SportsCenter"-leading shouting matches. Carlisle ceded control to Kidd in midseason, and that duo played prominent roles in the Mavs' title run a few years later.

Could history repeat itself? Don't hold your breath. The reality is Rondo's run with the Mavs is extremely unlikely to extend past this season.

This has deteriorated rather quickly. Dallas acquired Rondo in December, and owner Mark Cuban said publicly that the plan wasn't to make him a rental. The starting five of Rondo, Monta Ellis (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/555941/monta-ellis), Chandler Parsons (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1332461/chandler-parsons), Nowitzki and Chandler were supposed to keep the Mavs contenders for the next few seasons. They gave up a first-round pick, a second-round pick and three role players for him.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25082359/report-rajon-rondo-extremely-unlikely-to-stay-in-dallas

[unforeseen]

:lol Cuban

[AlexJones]

Not even a question you'd have to let the guy walk this summer. No big deal, only gave up Wright who was expiring anyway

[Chinook]

And Dallas should be glad for it. Rondo is pretty antiquated. Still better than Tony, though.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Not even a question you'd have to let the guy walk this summer. No big deal, only gave up Wright who was expiring anyway

And picks.

[Sean Cagney]

And Dallas should be glad for it. Rondo is pretty antiquated. Still better than Tony, though.

I don't think he is better than Tony overall but right now anyone is sadly. I agree Dallas should be glad as well, let that bum walk, he is overrated anyways. He is also a bad attitude and a cancer on any team he is on from what I gathered. He says he did not play D at all in Boston and quit basically later on, not a guy I want on my team.
And picks.

Yep, that was a stupid trade. Boston looking alot better without him honestly as bad as they were.

[mavsfan1000]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Rondo. Harris is our best point guard.

[baseline bum]

Oh well, at least the Spurs aren't the only ones fucked in their point guard situation right now with Rondo and Rose.

[Killakobe81]

Oh well, at least the Spurs aren't the only ones fucked in their point guard situation right now with Rondo and Rose.

We have Lin and a rookie (who i like but still a rooK) stop bitchin'

[hater]

We have Lin and a rookie (who i like but still a rooK) stop bitchin'

well we have shitty Parker and Jeremy Linobili running our point tbh.

[monosylab1k]

Tim McMahon is a Mavs troll reporter who has zero inside information. He's the "blogger" Cuban kicked out of the locker room that one time, do you really think he has any actual reliable sources?

BTW I hope he's right. Whatever the market is for Rondo, it's too expensive.

[monosylab1k]

For actual insight on the Mavs, the only real sources are Marc Stein and, shockingly, Mike Fisher.

[Killakobe81]

For actual insight on the Mavs, the only real sources are Marc Stein and, shockingly, Mike Fisher.

They both are good. I think Tim was just making a informed opinion doubt Cubes of all people will readily admit he made a mistake ...
look how long it took to admit he was wrong to chase Dwight/D-will and break up the title team ...

[monosylab1k]

They both are good. I think Tim was just making a informed opinion doubt Cubes of all people will readily admit he made a mistake ...
look how long it took to admit he was wrong to chase Dwight/D-will and break up the title team ...

I think Tim was just butthurt about Carlisle shutting him down at the post game press conference.

[Findog]

If the Lakers are to going to max out Rondo, then Dallas should pass. I'm not holding my breath, but hopefully this Rondo experiment will show enough promise before the end of the season and they can resign him at a reasonable price. PG position is still a hole despite Rondo acquisition. It didn't look good when they first brought back Kidd.

[djohn2oo8]

For actual insight on the Mavs, the only real sources are Marc Stein and, shockingly, Mike Fisher.

There's a poster over at CF who works for a sports firm. He says Rondo is leaving, and Lakers won't offer max. I Have a couple of links to verify this guy's posts if you want.

[Phillip]

Although I agree that it doesn't look likely, McMahon has absolutely no proof.

He is simply bitter at Carlisle for twice in the past month or so making McMahon look like a total faggot in post-game interviews where McMahon was clearly trying to over-blow situations and get a rise out of Rick.

[RsxPiimp]

It's inevitable. Kobe has been courting Rondo for 2 summers now and the Lakers are still not a major player in any of the marquee players list. Sadly, Buss will push Mitch to sign any significant talent next year and by significant, I mean not 1 year rentals. So it's looking more like Rondo will be our biggest catch next year :(




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[djohn2oo8]

It's inevitable. Kobe has been courting Rondo for 2 summers now and the Lakers are still not a major player in any of the marquee players list. Sadly, Buss will push Mitch to sign any significant talent next year and by significant, I mean not 1 year rentals. So it's looking more like Rondo will be our biggest catch next year :(




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Lakers wont pay him the max

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9583734&postcount=34313

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Do people know what chemistry is?

[Killakobe81]

There's a poster over at CF who works for a sports firm. He says Rondo is leaving, and Lakers won't offer max. I Have a couple of links to verify this guy's posts if you want.

he is not worth the max. Let's be real here. even in his prime he was never worth it. Now he has had a serious injury, a broken jumper and has proven difficult to get along with in Boston and Dallas so far. Unless he could be had for $10 million or less neither team should sign him. (i only say $10 mill because mediocre fringe all-stars seem to make that much nowadays)

tim Mac is arrogant and a prick so I dont blame RC for clowning him. But if Westbrook, rose , Paul etc did the same thing and got suspended for it there would be questions RC knows this ...

[RsxPiimp]

Lakers wont pay him the max

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Jodelo]

McMahon :lol

Don't care right now about Rondo in the summer though.

[RsxPiimp]

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9583734&postcount=34313
It's all relative. He might not get max dollars, but offering Rondo an eight figure salary on multi year deal is still an awful move for a team who's building.

[monosylab1k]

If the Lakers are to going to max out Rondo, then Dallas should pass. I'm not holding my breath, but hopefully this Rondo experiment will show enough promise before the end of the season and they can resign him at a reasonable price. PG position is still a hole despite Rondo acquisition. It didn't look good when they first brought back Kidd.

The league minimum is too much for Rondo. He is useless to a successful NBA franchise, unless of course there's 3 HOFers in their prime playing ahead of him.

[DMC]

Spurs and Lakers have 5 rings to fall back on in the Duncan/Kobe era. Neither of us have any right to compare ourselves to these one hit or no hit wonders around the league. We two are just suffering the normal cyclic effect of being champions for so long.

[Findog]

The league minimum is too much for Rondo. He is useless to a successful NBA franchise, unless of course there's 3 HOFers in their prime playing ahead of him.

Rondo has had some success in this league. I know it looks grim: he's coming off an ACL tear, so far he's messed up their spacing on offense, he's not been a good fit so far, but I wouldn't go so far as assign him scrub status just yet. At least all it cost to take a flier on him was Brandon Wright. I mean there's no way you were beating Golden State or Memphis in the playoffs with Jameer Nelson and Ray Felton playing heavy minutes trying to guard the Splash Brothers or Mike Conley. I understand what they were trying to do with Rondo, and if they played a series today, they still wouldn't beat the Warriors or the Grizz, but I supported the trade and the downside was limited. And there's a chance they could yet gel together and win a couple series.

[Findog]

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2015/2/26/8110919/an-open-letter-to-rajon-rondo-dallas-mavericks-rick-carlisle


Rajon,

We really don't have time for this crap. We, meaning your teammates, your coaches, and the Mavericks fans, neither have the time nor inclination for any sort of diva act. The Mavericks have their best chance at doing something, anything in the playoffs since the 2010-11 title season. And you're the reason, to a certain extent.

But you are also becoming the reason they might not have a chance.

Tuesday night, the entire basketball world watched as you and Rick Carlisle got into an argument about playcalling during the game against the Toronto Raptors. Then we watched as the Mavericks came back to win with you on the bench. Then we watched Rick Carlisle shoot lasers from his eyes at ESPN Dallas' Tim MacMahon for asking what the problem was. He assured us it was over and that everyone would move on. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS CRAP


Then you went and got yourself suspended by escalating the issue further after the game and after Rick Carlisle went to bat for you with the media.

I can't believe we're even talking about this. Just who in the hell do you think you are? Is getting the last word more important to you than helping your team win games? You won a NBA championship as the fourth banana on a team with three future Hall of Famers...seven years ago. You've been living off your reputation for far too long. Getting suspended for conduct detrimental to the team 25 games into your tenure for a squad that's 18 games above .500 is ridiculous.

Rajon Rondo, simply put -- you are not bigger than the Dallas Mavericks.

I'm sure there are things that have gone on that we fans aren't privy to. I'm sure you have real reasons for being as mad about this as you are. But from our side of things, you're currently acting like a spoiled teenager who is mad at his folks for not letting him stay out past curfew. It's beneath you. It's beneath what you bring to this team and this game.

I'm really tired of fighting for you with friends and fans. I see the numbers, and I know that you're helping the Mavericks. I know that you've given the team the edge they need to potentially contend this season. But this kind of childish temper tantrum -- it makes watching my favorite team a chore. And you know, it's really, extraordinarily hard to make watching basketball with Dirk Nowitzki a chore. RAJON RONDO IS NOT BIGGER THAN THE DALLAS MAVERICKS


You're losing the fanbase, who wanted -- still want -- so much to believe in you.

We Mavericks fans have been through this brand of hope before. In 2012, we struggled through an entire season of Lamar Odom, who constantly put himself above his teammates. His selfishness was the dark cloud over the season, and you can bet your bottom dollar that after that, Rick, Dirk, Mark Cuban, or any of the other old hats in the Mavericks locker room are not interested in a lost season. Not when the team has this much potential.

I'll tell you something, Rajon -- something you may not be aware of yet. Mavericks basketball in 2015 is a team of underdogs. The roster is littered with players who have been written off as past their primes. Guys who are on their second or third acts and who really want to crash the playoff party come April and May. If you could see that -- if you could wake up from your haze of self-importance -- you could push this team from fringe status to actual contender.

But not if you don't pull back from this path and get it the hell together. Dallas needs you, if the Mavericks want to make any noise in the playoffs. But they can, and will, also find a way without you. That's how this organization works.

Look Rajon, I'm not telling you this because I'm mad at you (though I am) or because I don't care (I really do). I'm writing to let you know that we need you. Sure, there are times where the offense gets mucked up, but there are also times where Dallas can't get into basic sets. The Mavs need a steady hand. They also need your defense, when you're focused enough to play it. The West is too damn hard and we've seen just enough flashes to hope that Rondo the defensive wizard is still within you.

So, what's it going to be: Rajon Rondo or the Dallas Mavericks? The organization was willing to take a risk on you, trading a popular bench anchor for a star point guard. Now, you need to take a risk on them.

Sincerely,

Kirk Henderson

[sook]

Oh well, at least the Spurs aren't the only ones fucked in their point guard situation right now with Rondo and Rose.
rockets are fucked too, Beverly sucks.

[BatManu20]

Rondo already has one foot in Laker-land tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

A Rondo-Kobe-Byron trifecta would be pure greatness.

[AlexJones]

BTW how good has dat nigga JJ Barea looked this year... thank christ we have 2 decent PGs on the roster.

[baseline bum]

rockets are fucked too, Beverly sucks.

Bev already put in his work in 2013 though.

[Thread]

A Rondo-Kobe-Byron trifecta would be pure greatness.

Just remember it starts at 0-0, dummy.

[monosylab1k]

Just remember it starts at 0-0, dummy.

And then the Lakers start losing. Early and often.

[Franklin]

we didn't lose no substantial value in this deal though, so it's at least not as bad as trading a future MVP candidate for a one-season rental of Kevin Martin imho.

[Thread]

And then the Lakers start losing. Early and often.

That's neither here nor there. + I wasn't addressing you.

[elmanutres]

And Dallas should be glad for it. Rondo is pretty antiquated. Still better than Tony, though.

speaking of tony, mavs always have a behavior of getting the spurs old leftover trash. I wouldn't be shocked if in the future enrique becomes a mav.

[DAF86]

rockets are fucked too, Beverly sucks.

But you have my man Prigs.

[monosylab1k]

That's neither here nor there. + I wasn't addressing you.

Just checkin assholes

[DMC]

I don't get the issue here. Rondo isn't a deal maker/breaker. He's a role guy who got put in his place. He's not going to alter the fortunes of the team. He'd have more chance of being a negative impact on the floor than on the bench.

[unleashbaynes]

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2015/2/26/8110919/an-open-letter-to-rajon-rondo-dallas-mavericks-rick-carlisle

:lmao

Did cry faggot write this?

[Killakobe81]

I don't get the issue here. Rondo isn't a deal maker/breaker. He's a role guy who got put in his place. He's not going to alter the fortunes of the team. He'd have more chance of being a negative impact on the floor than on the bench.

I think when you watch the Mavs it is painfully obvious they are not a better team with Rondo playing. any gains he gives the defense it is undone by the stagnation of the offense. Mavs have small chance to be a good defense. Aminu, Tyson, Ellis and Jefferson are all good to solid on that end. Rondo's defense can also be good. But the Mavs will need to perform at their pre rondo levels tp go far in the playoffs. And is Rondo really THAT much better than Ellis/Harris on defense that it's worth mucking up the flow of their offense?

[Jodelo]

And is Rondo really THAT much better than Ellis/Harris on defense that it's worth mucking up the flow of their offense?

Yes he is. Stats back that up.

He's out, Curry goes for 51 directly.

[Killakobe81]

Yes he is. Stats back that up.

He's out, Curry goes for 51 directly.

I didnt say he wasnt better. I asked is it worth the hit to the offense.Prior to the trade the Mavs were on a historic pace for offense according to plenty of advanced efficiency metrics. Maybe they would have regressed anyway due to injuries and shooting to normal levels, but the Mavs to me were legit darkhorse contender. Keep in mind Dirk has not been elite this year and yet they still were playing at high level because Montae was amazing. Now? Not only is the defense leaky but the offense stalls when Rondo plays. I hope Cubes values the defensive numbers you allude to and ignores the offensive ones. You will save the Lakers from making a mistake and ruin your slim title hopes.

[Jodelo]

I didnt say he wasnt better. I asked is it worth the hit to the offense.Prior to the trade the Mavs were on a historic pace for offense according to plenty of advanced efficiency metrics. Maybe they would have regressed anyway due to injuries and shooting to normal levels, but the Mavs to me were legit darkhorse contender. Keep in mind Dirk has not been elite this year and yet they still were playing at high level because Montae was amazing. Now? Not only is the defense leaky but the offense stalls when Rondo plays. I hope Cubes values the defensive numbers you allude to and ignores the offensive ones. You will save the Lakers from making a mistake and ruin your slim title hopes.

Do people forget what a fucking easy schedule the Mavs played early on? That's why the offense looked great.

I take #8 and 8 over #1 and 28 (rating wise).#

Mavs need Rondo on defense to have a shot at winning a series, simple as that.

[Killakobe81]

Do people forget what a fucking easy schedule the Mavs played early on? That's why the offense looked great.

I take #8 and 8 over #1 and 28 (rating wise).#

Mavs need Rondo on defense to have a shot at winning a series, simple as that.

SOS is a factor but are you watching the same games I am? I think you want this to work so you are ignoring w that is right in front of you but good luck I don't hate Mavs I just think you are wrong but we will see

[mavsfan1000]

Yep he is wrong. It is obvious from the eye test that Rondo hurts the team more than he helps. Tbh any guard that can't shoot hurts the team. And Rondo's inside game isn't as good as it used to be. Shown by his fg% drop.

[Mori Chu]

Hey Mavs, thanks for Brandan Wright!

Love,
Suns

[monosylab1k]

Hey Mavs, thanks for Brandan Wright!

Love,
Suns

Hey Suns, enjoy the lottery!

Love,
Mavs+7 other WC teams that are better than you

[Jodelo]

SOS is a factor but are you watching the same games I am? I think you want this to work so you are ignoring w that is right in front of you but good luck I don't hate Mavs I just think you are wrong but we will see

Yep i did. Against good teams the Mavs struggled, on both ends as expected.

Sure i hope it works out.

[SPM]

Hey Suns, enjoy the lottery!

Love,
Mavs+7 other WC teams that are better than you

:lol

[SPM]

I wouldn't be surprised if Rondo ended up staying, dude is too competitive to go to the fucking dumpster fire that is the Lakers. They won't offer you the max and you won't win......... What's the point?????

[mavsfan1000]

Hey Mavs, thanks for Brandan Wright!

Love,
Suns
You can thank Cuban. Carlisle never wanted him.

[monosylab1k]

Hey Mavs, thanks for Brandan Wright!

Love,
Suns

:lmao if it wasn't for Brandan Wright, you'd be getting beat by 40, but now it's only 30+ :lmao

[Killakobe81]

I wouldn't be surprised if Rondo ended up staying, dude is too competitive to go to the fucking dumpster fire that is the Lakers. They won't offer you the max and you won't win......... What's the point?????

Not a good fit here n DFW, is the point. Lakers are not the only team with shitty PG's and cap space. Mavs have a great FO, owner and coach so I agree if he was a good fit here he should stay. But this wont end well. And Cubes dumbass wont admit he is wrong and will probably pay him ...especially if Rox/LAL show interest ...

[Killakobe81]

Rondo played OK tonight btw, but how did Dwilliams drop 25 tonight? I know he is local to here .... but couldnt Harris and barea hold him to 25? I thought Rondo was a elite defender? OR did they not match up tonight? Missed most of this one ...

[DMC]

I think when you watch the Mavs it is painfully obvious they are not a better team with Rondo playing. any gains he gives the defense it is undone by the stagnation of the offense. Mavs have small chance to be a good defense. Aminu, Tyson, Ellis and Jefferson are all good to solid on that end. Rondo's defense can also be good. But the Mavs will need to perform at their pre rondo levels tp go far in the playoffs. And is Rondo really THAT much better than Ellis/Harris on defense that it's worth mucking up the flow of their offense?

The offense is stagnant because RC won't allow Rondo to run the offense. He's backseat driving and that slows the offense, keeps everyone confused. It's fine to call a play, but you have to let your PG run things when he sees it. Pop doesn't, never did, but TP isn't a Rondo type player. RC did the same with Kidd at first and the offense was stagnant then as well.

[Killakobe81]

The offense is stagnant because RC won't allow Rondo to run the offense. He's backseat driving and that slows the offense, keeps everyone confused. It's fine to call a play, but you have to let your PG run things when he sees it. Pop doesn't, never did, but TP isn't a Rondo type player. RC did the same with Kidd at first and the offense was stagnant then as well.

I hear ya and some salient points. One huge difference Kidd was not a overdribbler, He wanted to call plays, sure. But Kidd was not a assist whore like Rondo/CP3. At least not as he got older ... take that back I watched Kidd going back to HS in Cali. he was never the PG who held the rock to get an assist instead of passing ahead. I think Rondo has some Kidd traits but that is the biggest diffrence and why Kidd is a HOF PG and I doubt rondo ever gets there ...

[DMC]

Kidd had his journeyman days as well.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol some retard team will throw dirty money at him...look

[mavsfan1000]

Rond-No

[Jodelo]

Carlisle finally let Kidd run the show a year or 2 later. He needs to do the same with Rondo now. Will only help the team.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[Sheriff Hoyt]

This Rajon Rondo business with Rick Carlisle... well, it's part of what happens during a season. Coaches and players blow up at each other. But there's some real tension beneath the surface. It bears watching when Rondo hits free agency this summer.

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