Vegas Odds: Cavs 45% chance to win title, can anyone stop LeBron the GM?

[hitmantb]

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

That is twice the chance of the second team, Golden State Warriors.

As predicted, once they worked out the kinks and pulled off an amazing mid-season trade that got them a legit center AND wing defenders, Cavs on paper has far and away the strongest roster in the NBA, with the possible exception of a fully healthy Thunder.

I don't see Hawks stopping them from getting to the finals, good team but missing the Spurs vengeance and Duncan leadership aura to be great.

Warriors? I feel Cavs is a hard counter for them.

Say what you want, but LeBron is truly the first player in NBA history to hit GM status when he is still playing. As great as Jordan was, he never had the control of the team LeBron has today on the Cavs. I also don't believe Jordan can beat LeBron 1v1 given LeBron's unfair combination of speed and power, NFL style' drives to the basket.

Jordan owes a lot to Duncan and Spurs for stopping LeBron twice in the finals, can someone else step up and stop LeBron this year?

[noob cake]

Yes, that is because Cavs have a free ride to the finals.

[Clipper Nation]

Meanwhile, DK as GM:

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/iec7afpqlu408x3kozg8.jpg

http://thumbs.boa.ulximg.com/public/articles/56/5_1385440156_5fd7d87d4489f826b43085d0107239a1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KUV8b0U.jpg

:lmao

[RD2191]

Jordan is a scrub GM.:lol

[Venti Quattro]

Jordan also played GM in 1997/98 when Krause tried to trade Pippen and they won the title. Just not so much effective when he's the actual GM.

A lot of these global icons of sport can moonlight into being GMs and directors because their star power, positive net effect on the team and the influence they wield affect how their employers (front office) make their decisions.

[K...]

If you were a GM who could dictate where the best player played and what conference your team played in, you'd be pretty successful by default. So rather than credit Lebron the GM i'd say Lebron the coach is more impressive. The cavs had good talent but poor identity, motivation, etc. Trading Wiggins is a big mistake but not costly given the talent they retained.

Without conferences I'd put Golden state, a healthy OKC, and maybe Memphis ahead of Lebron's team. Those eastern conference training wheels are powerful stuff.

[RsxPiimp]

In fairness to Jordan, that 2006 draft is one of the worst class in recent history. The first pick was Bargnani and the 4th player picked after Adam Morrison was Tyrus Thomas who was then followed by Shelden Williams at # 5. Blazers drafted pretty well tho.


Plus Ammo was a beast in Gonzaga, maybe not Top 5 pick material but nobody knew he would lose confidence that quick at the pro level.

[baseline bum]

In fairness to Jordan, that 2006 draft is one of the worst class in recent history. The first pick was Bargnani and the 4th player picked after Adam Morrison was Tyrus Thomas who was then followed by Shelden Williams at # 5. Blazers drafted pretty well tho.


Plus Ammo was a beast in Gonzaga, maybe not Top 5 pick material but nobody knew he would lose confidence that quick at the pro level.

Still had Roy on the board, and everyone knew he'd be a star.

[LkrFan]

Meanwhile, DK as GM:

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/iec7afpqlu408x3kozg8.jpg

http://thumbs.boa.ulximg.com/public/articles/56/5_1385440156_5fd7d87d4489f826b43085d0107239a1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KUV8b0U.jpg

:lmao

Dayum! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[Venti Quattro]

Still had Roy on the board, and everyone knew he'd be a star.

From that 2006 Draft, only LMA and Gay remain relevant in the top 10 picks. Wow that draft class was a steaming hot pile of shit. It would've had some redeeming factor if Roy didn't have a fragile body.

[LkrFan]

LeHype wouldn't win with Kwame, Puke Walton, Smush, Brian Cook, and Mihm either. If he gets tons of help? Then threads like this get created. :yawningPERIOD:

[weebo]

LeHype wouldn't win with Kwame, Puke Walton, Smush, Brian Cook, and Mihm either. If he gets tons of help? Then threads like this get created. :yawningPERIOD:

And how do you substantiate this claim? The only thing we know about this cast is that kirby was incapable of elevating these players games like the great ones do ( Duncan, Shaq, mvPau)

[baseline bum]

LeHype wouldn't win with Kwame, Puke Walton, Smush, Brian Cook, and Mihm either. If he gets tons of help? Then threads like this get created. :yawningPERIOD:

He made the Finals with Sasha Pavlovic, Boobie Gibson, old ass Ilagauskas, and Varejao. And you're forgetting Snitch had prime Odom and Caron Butler back when he was good.

[LkrFan]

And how do you substantiate this claim? The only thing we know about this cast is that kirby was incapable of elevating these players games like the great ones do ( Duncan, Shaq, mvPau)

Neither of those 3 would have won with those "NBA players" either. GTF:lmao son. :lol

[LkrFan]

He made the Finals with Sasha Pavlovic, Boobie Gibson, old ass Ilagauskas, and Varejao. And you're forgetting Snitch had prime Odom and Caron Butler back when he was good.

The ENTIRE 2007 EC was a smidget better than the 2007 NCAA elite 8 teams. :lmao WTF happened when he played a WC team in the Finals ? He got rolled like a fatass joint. :rollin :lmao :rollin

[baseline bum]

The ENTIRE 2007 EC was a smidget better than the 2007 NCAA elite 8 teams. :lmao WTF happened when hd played a WC team? He got rolled like a fatass joint. :rollin :lmao :rollin

Your nigga didn't even make the playoffs one year with more help than LeBron had in his Finals run :lol

[baseline bum]

:cry Kobe the only star who ever had a so-so supporting cast :cry

[LkrFan]

Your nigga didn't even make the playoffs :lol

Yeah, in the WC. There's a reason LeHype is staying east. He knows what's up. :lmao

[Raven]

it's funny because cleveland has as many losses as we do..

[LkrFan]

:cry Kobe the only star who ever had a so-so supporting cast :cry

You clowning, but when they both played, Kobe 4, Jim 2 H2H. :toast

[Clipper Nation]

LeHype wouldn't win with Kwame, Puke Walton, Smush, Brian Cook, and Mihm either. If he gets tons of help? Then threads like this get created. :yawningPERIOD:
Kirby shouldn't have run off Shaq and Phil if he wasn't good enough to carry a team, Ronaldo :lol

[ducks]

it's funny because cleveland has as many losses as we do..

Yeah

[baseline bum]

You clowning, but when they both played, Kobe 4, Jim 2 H2H. :toast

LOL Duncan made the WCF with a supporting cast of old ass Robinson, Antonio Daniels, and a finished Terry Porter and Danny Ferry. Meanwhile Kobe makes the lottery with prime Odom and prime Butler. :lol

[Raven]

From that 2006 Draft, only LMA and Gay remain relevant in the top 10 picks. Wow that draft class was a steaming hot pile of shit. It would've had some redeeming factor if Roy didn't have a fragile body.

Paul Millsap #47 and Rondo #21 do stand out though.. Some solid role players too

[LkrFan]

LOL Duncan made the WCF with a supporting cast of old ass Robinson, Antonio Daniels, and a finished Terry Porter and Danny Ferry. Meanwhile Kobe makes the lottery with prime Odom and prime Butler. :lol

N:lolpe - WTF did Odumb or Butler do before or after Kobe? Horseshitt has done just as much! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[LkrFan]

Kirby shouldn't have run off Shaq and Phil if he wasn't good enough to carry a team, Ronaldo :lol

:lol

[baseline bum]

N:lolpe - WTF did Odumb or Butler do before or after Kobe? Horseshitt has done just as much! :rollin :lmao :rollin

Didn't they have TVs in Tijuana back in 2005 Hector? Your nigga couldn't make the playoffs son.

[LkrFan]

Didn't they have TVs in Tijuana back in 2005 Hector? Your nigga couldn't make the playoffs son.
:lol

Despite all that shiiiiiiiiiiit, Kobe 4, Jim 2. :tu

[baseline bum]

:lol

Despite all that shiiiiiiiiiiit, Kobe 4, Jim 2. :tu

Just angry Kobe was missing the playoffs back when you were screaming "burro, stop!" at the show.

[RsxPiimp]

Still had Roy on the board, and everyone knew he'd be a star.

The funny thing is, if Brandon Roy was no longer available, Portland was heavily campaigning to draft Morrison at 7th. :lol



Though Morrison's draft combine had red flags, he had two things going for him in College. A) His scoring prowess was unmatched that year and B) He had flair and charisma around the media, which is probably why he was so over hyped in Gonzaga. Morrison had the highest "excitement" ceiling coming out of college from any player in that class.


The Bobcats roster were highlighted by 2 young defensive players like Okafor and Gerald Wallace, they just picked a ball handler in Felton at # 5 the previous year, so Bickerstaff and MJ had their eyes set on someone who can score in bunches at the 3/4 position.

[LkrFan]

Just angry Kobe was missing the playoffs back when you were screaming "burro, stop!" at the show.

:lol

[weebo]

Neither of those 3 would have won with those "NBA players" either. GTF:lmao son. :lol

Hey baby girl quit backpedaling and answer the question. Where's your proof that Lecoon wouldn't have been able to carry those scrubs to the Finals?