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Johnny RIngo
01-10-2015, 04:42 AM
Manu:

5.0 assists per game
2.4 TO/game

Enrique:

4.9 assists per game
2.7 TO/game

:lol $60 million dollars for this French turd

Malik Hairston
01-10-2015, 05:01 AM
:lmao..

Hemotivo
01-10-2015, 06:08 AM
of course

Mikeanaro
01-10-2015, 07:40 AM
Enrique will keep playing, its on Pop how many minutes and trying to not kill the pace I think he did a good job with him in the Finals.

horsielove
01-10-2015, 07:42 AM
manutard: MANU > TP
the enriques: TP > MANU

:lmao

DMC
01-10-2015, 01:20 PM
Manu goes for home run passes. Those are more likely to be assists than what Tony does. Tony mostly just passes into the post or runs plays. They are going to have different results, and Manu's play is going to be riddled with turnovers. Manu's court vision is second to none in the league, he just doesn't seem to factor in the opponent. Tony doesn't have good court vision, has a cone of vision, and has to plan ahead.

DAF86
01-10-2015, 01:31 PM
Manu goes for home run passes. Those are more likely to be assists than what Tony does. Tony mostly just passes into the post or runs plays. They are going to have different results, and Manu's play is going to be riddled with turnovers. Manu's court vision is second to none in the league, he just doesn't seem to factor in the opponent. Tony doesn't have good court vision, has a cone of vision, and has to plan ahead.

All very nice and all but...


Manu:

5.0 assists per game
2.4 TO/game

Enrique:

4.9 assists per game
2.7 TO/game

:lol $60 million dollars for this French turd

DMC
01-10-2015, 02:13 PM
I didn't say Manu has more turnovers than Tony. I said his play is riddled with turnovers, ergo "Turnobli". Parker isn't noted for turnovers. Either way, Spurs need both to be healthy and firing on all cylinders to be competitive. If they aren't, Spurs are a middle of the pack team, even with Kawhi playing.

Not surprising that the Manu homers would look at every opportunity to support their guy though.

Diego20
01-10-2015, 05:16 PM
and Manu averages 4 less minutes than TP.

ducks
01-10-2015, 05:27 PM
Manu had costly turnovers more in playoffs then tp
And the foul against Dallas was stupid

ducks
01-10-2015, 05:29 PM
Why all the 4 quarter turnovers and blown games if tp was killing the Spurs


He has been out several games

Beaverfuzz
01-10-2015, 06:38 PM
At least Manu's marked as a SG here.

hater
01-10-2015, 07:53 PM
Manu had costly turnovers more in playoffs then to
And the foul against Dallas was stupid

:lmao

hater
01-10-2015, 07:54 PM
:lol Evita
10+ more turnovers in the 4th than any other Spur :lol

Johnny RIngo
01-10-2015, 08:08 PM
32.1 AST% - Manu
28.4 AST% - Parker

Spurs paying Tony $13 million just so he could give us worse production than 40 year old Manu.

FkLA
01-10-2015, 08:58 PM
Yet Enrique fanboys take shots at 21 year old Cojo for not being a true PG like Enrique. :lol

hater
01-10-2015, 09:00 PM
the funny thing is even with Evita out the last 2 games. He's still going to lead the spurs in TOs in the 4th by double digits :lol

FkLA
01-10-2015, 09:06 PM
the funny thing is even with Evita out the last 2 games. He's still going to lead the spurs in TOs in the 4th by double digits :lol

Hes was the only ballhander in the 4th for an entire month bc Enrique was nursing his sore ass cheek. What do you expect?

Im sure he also has triple digit leads in total points and assists over Enrique.

hater
01-10-2015, 09:07 PM
and now we are 2-0 WITHOUT EVITA. batting 100% basically :lol

ElNono
01-10-2015, 09:11 PM
32.1 AST% - Manu
28.4 AST% - Parker

Spurs paying Tony $13 million just so he could give us worse production than 40 year old Manu.

I'm just glad we have Patty back and Cojo playing at a high level... even if Manu has been the 2nd/3rd best Spur production-wise this season, he needed some rest...

TheGreatYacht
01-10-2015, 09:14 PM
Yet Enrique fanboys take shots at 21 year old Cojo for not being a true PG like Enrique. :lol
Your colt leader, Harlem, is the only one who continuesly shitted on Cojo. Now he's dick riding him. It's who he is. He lives to ride whoever is on a roll... *cough* Lebron :lmao

Diego20
01-10-2015, 09:20 PM
the funny thing is even with Evita out the last 2 games. He's still going to lead the spurs in TOs in the 4th by double digits :lol


But TP leads in total turnovers :lol, or turnovers only count when they happen in the last quarter? :lmao

Hoops Czar
01-10-2015, 09:20 PM
I thought Manu was done? Oh, wait, this isn't the 2013 NBA finals.

chasky
01-11-2015, 03:05 AM
Be nice with TP, he's only the third best PG on the Team right now!

Ditty
01-11-2015, 03:08 AM
It's only January

Malik Hairston
01-11-2015, 03:20 AM
Be nice with TP, he's only the third best PG on the Team right now!

:lol..

Splits
01-11-2015, 05:11 AM
8 turnovers and a missed FT is the only reason we.... fuck it, can't get through to manustan

Johnny RIngo
01-11-2015, 05:16 AM
Updated numbers after tonight:

Manu:

5.0 Assists per game
2.4 TO/game

Enrique:

4.8 Assists per game
2.7 TO/game

Bonus stat:

Reggie Jackson:

4.9 Assists per game
2.2 TO/game

:lol OKC's backup is a better point guard than our $60 million starter

pgardn
01-11-2015, 12:07 PM
Manu has ALWAYS been a better passer than Tony.

So is it really a surprise when Manu gets more minutes because Parker has been injured and now shaking the rust off (hopefully) that he gets more assists?
Really?

The amazing thing is that Manu has not broken down... Hopefully. If he plays with a tight back he is going to overcompensate and injure something else. He needs rest. It is now time for Parker to take over the major ball handling duties along with CJ until he regains his game speed. Right now Parker needs to be a manage the game no TO kinda QB. Testing the waters with occassional penetrating moves.

Patience.

ElNono
01-11-2015, 12:20 PM
Manu has ALWAYS been a better passer than Tony.

So is it really a surprise when Manu gets more minutes because Parker has been injured and now shaking the rust off (hopefully) that he gets more assists?
Really?

The amazing thing is that Manu has not broken down... Hopefully. If he plays with a tight back he is going to overcompensate and injure something else. He needs rest. It is now time for Parker to take over the major ball handling duties along with CJ until he regains his game speed. Right now Parker needs to be a manage the game no TO kinda QB. Testing the waters with occassional penetrating moves.

Patience.

Agree completely. And Tony has been the better assist guy for the Spurs (Manu has always been #2 there), so there's no reason he can't be that guy again.

apalisoc_9
01-11-2015, 12:30 PM
Updated numbers after tonight:

Manu:

5.0 Assists per game
2.4 TO/game

Enrique:

4.8 Assists per game
2.7 TO/game

Bonus stat:

Reggie Jackson:

4.9 Assists per game
2.2 TO/game

:lol OKC's backup is a better point guard than our $60 million starter

:lol

Malik Hairston
03-01-2015, 02:19 PM
With the death of Anthony Mason today due to heart failure from excessive weight gain over the years, would it be irresponsible of the Spurs organization to continue watching Tony Parker destroy his body, tbh?

Basketball aside, as a member of the Spurs family, shouldn't the organization take action and send a message?

Pop and Parker had a talk prior to the Kings game, apparently, but is that enough?

I know many of us have been unhappy with his play on the court, but the man just had a child, I don't want to see him dying at 40, tbh..

CitizenDwayne
03-01-2015, 02:27 PM
:td

apalisoc_9
03-01-2015, 02:30 PM
It's a valid concern for sure...

Do the spurs have team nutritionist?

Malik Hairston
03-01-2015, 02:32 PM
It's a valid concern for sure...

Do the spurs have team nutritionist?

I heard T Park is Parker's personal nutritionist, tbh:lol..

apalisoc_9
03-01-2015, 02:33 PM
I heard T Park is Parker's personal nutritionist, tbh:lol..

http://www.spurstalk.com/heat104.jpg

this guy?


Lord save us...

Johnny RIngo
03-01-2015, 02:39 PM
I heard T Park is Parker's personal nutritionist, tbh:lol..

:rollin

Clipper Nation
03-01-2015, 02:44 PM
:lol

ChumpDumper
03-01-2015, 02:46 PM
30

Floyd Pacquiao
03-01-2015, 02:55 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/heat104.jpg

this guy?


Lord save us...
Who is that man? :lmao

exstatic
03-01-2015, 03:03 PM
:td

Spurs 4 The Win
03-01-2015, 03:04 PM
Too many Alt accounts giving each other handjobs... fail

Tony Porker
03-01-2015, 03:07 PM
Would you care to share some recent pictures that back up why you feel this way?

:elephant:elephant

xtremesteven33
03-01-2015, 03:15 PM
9/10

Malik Hairston
03-01-2015, 03:27 PM
:lol Deuce leaving his mark, tbh..

K...
03-01-2015, 03:54 PM
Harlem, apo, crew etc. Is the title of this an indication that this the isofficial Harlem crew Tony Parker discussion thread? Or is this just the thread for Tony Parker death dream fan fiction?

Please consider doing the first or else renaming the thread "wherein I ponder on obesity and morbidity of certain nba players who have gained weight"

Plz also note that while I'm not a friend of tpark it's pretty classless to bring a forum member into a discussion without reason. This is pretty low.

sook
03-01-2015, 03:57 PM
stop being a fucking loser.

jeebus
03-01-2015, 03:59 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/heat104.jpg

this guy?


Lord save us...

:lmao that would explain it

Mr Bones
03-01-2015, 04:08 PM
Classy thread.

ducks
03-01-2015, 04:48 PM
back to back
also parker did not take shots others were hitting
nice that he was not
also when you have a bad groin and hamstring back to back games your jumper will not fall
he did look more confident out there
leonard was on fire
spurs need either leonard or parker on fire

leonard on the road trip was not alot better then tp on the o end
both need to play well against some times to win
lets see what tp does against kings with three days of rest

Silver&Black
03-01-2015, 05:18 PM
Such a classless thread....shit is starting to get out of hand.

Silver&Black
03-01-2015, 05:21 PM
Such a classless thread....shit is starting to get out of hand.

I totally agree. It's at a point now where some Spurs fans can't even enjoy victories.

Silver&Black
03-01-2015, 05:23 PM
I totally agree. It's at a point now where some Spurs fans can't even enjoy victories.

Thanks man. Yeah....at least we get it.

TXstbobcat
03-01-2015, 05:35 PM
Tony had a nice game against the Kings. Let's see how he plays with the three more days of rest. I am hoping for the best and that they can go on a nice winning streak.

Beaverfuzz
03-01-2015, 05:38 PM
Good try.

sook
03-01-2015, 05:49 PM
Is this approaching xmas level territory? The man broke down after fighting a losing battle for what seemed like too long

ducks
03-01-2015, 06:11 PM
Time to ban some people starting threads

Johnny RIngo
03-01-2015, 06:14 PM
Did Tony Parker eat too much during the all-star break?

http://s9.postimg.org/khth3x7sv/Parker_pre_post_all_star.png

I mean, his numbers weren't that great pre-All Star week. Post All-Star, he's been horrible. Even his three point shooting has nosedived. Timmy's stepped it up a notch after the all-star game. We've seen Green and Kawhi coming alive the past week. TP's just getting worse and worse though.

daslicer
03-01-2015, 06:15 PM
Thanks man. Yeah....at least we get it.

:lol I like your sarcasm

Ditty
03-01-2015, 06:25 PM
poor taste :td

FkLA
03-01-2015, 06:30 PM
Tony had a nice game against the Kings. Let's see how he plays with the three more days of rest. I am hoping for the best and that they can go on a nice winning streak.

He gave it all back on the other end to a 2nd round PG that was averaging 4.7 ppg prior to facing Porker.

apalisoc_9
03-01-2015, 06:39 PM
Did Tony Parker eat too much during the all-star break?

http://s9.postimg.org/khth3x7sv/Parker_pre_post_all_star.png

I mean, his numbers weren't that great pre-All Star week. Post All-Star, he's been horrible. Even his three point shooting has nosedived. Timmy's stepped it up a notch after the all-star game. We've seen Green and Kawhi coming alive the past week. TP's just getting worse and worse though.

23% usage rate for a bottom NBA player..

No wonder this team is struggling..

Johnny RIngo
03-01-2015, 07:05 PM
23% usage rate for a bottom NBA player..

No wonder this team is struggling..

Yup. There's only one other NBA starter that's playing as bad as Tony with a similar usage - Enes Kanter. Jazz were horrible with him in their starting lineup. We all saw how much Utah improved after they traded him (4-1). Detroit had a similar success story after removing their cancer. Unfortunately, Pop thinks there's nothing wrong with the Frenchie - dangerous for the Spurs imo. We're going to need everyone to catch fire and start playing at a historic level come playoff time(like last year) in order to offset Tony's terrible play.

apalisoc_9
03-01-2015, 07:13 PM
Yup. There's only one other NBA starter that's playing as bad as Tony with a similar usage - Enes Kanter. Jazz were horrible with him in their starting lineup. We all saw how much Utah improved after they traded him (4-1). Detroit had a similar success story after removing their cancer. Unfortunately, Pop thinks there's nothing wrong with the Frenchie - dangerous for the Spurs imo. We're going to need everyone to catch fire and start playing at a historic level come playoff time(like last year) in order to offset Tony's terrible play.

Remember kobe in 2001 when he got injured and the Lakers started winning?..He embraced his 2nd banana role after that...

Johnny RIngo
03-01-2015, 07:35 PM
Remember kobe in 2001 when he got injured and the Lakers started winning?..He embraced his 2nd banana role after that...

They're both annoying as fuck heroballers but at least Frobe knew when to get the fuck out of Shaq's way during the threepeat. Tony was taking more shots than Duncan when TD was still in his prime and costing us playoff series like '04 Lakers or '06 Mavs. Fast-forward ten years later and he's still doing the same shit and costing us titles(2013 Heat). Frenchie will never learn.

ducks
03-01-2015, 07:38 PM
this is not the tony parker thread
this is the 10000 tp thread this last 5 weeks
stop the hate without him playing well no title
he played well enough in finals to make james guard him so others can step up and beat the other team

ducks
03-01-2015, 07:39 PM
He gave it all back on the other end to a 2nd round PG that was averaging 4.7 ppg prior to facing Porker.

WAS pointed out patty mills guard him on 6 on those 10 made field goals

daslicer
03-01-2015, 07:56 PM
They're both annoying as fuck heroballers but at least Frobe knew when to get the fuck out of Shaq's way during the threepeat. Tony was taking more shots than Duncan when TD was still in his prime and costing us playoff series like '04 Lakers or '06 Mavs. Fast-forward ten years later and he's still doing the same shit and costing us titles(2013 Heat). Frenchie will never learn.

Some revisionist history going on here when you mention the Mavs series. Duncan actually took the most FG attempts in that series out of any player on the Spurs. I don't see how Tony got in Duncan's way during that series. The Spurs would have won that series if Manu didn't commit that stupid foul on Dirk towards the end of the 4th quarter.

Hemotivo
03-01-2015, 08:12 PM
:td

:tu

Johnny RIngo
03-01-2015, 09:09 PM
Some revisionist history going on here when you mention the Mavs series. Duncan actually took the most FG attempts in that series out of any player on the Spurs. I don't see how Tony got in Duncan's way during that series. The Spurs would have won that series if Manu didn't commit that stupid foul on Dirk towards the end of the 4th quarter.

Here's the big three's numbers against Dallas in 2006:

http://s5.postimg.org/lz7edl1xz/2006_Mavs_Spurs.png

Two of these guys stepped up against the Mavs. One was highly inefficient and was dragging the offense down. Can you guess who?

apalisoc_9
03-01-2015, 09:11 PM
Here's the big three's numbers against Dallas in 2006:

http://s5.postimg.org/lz7edl1xz/2006_Mavs_Spurs.png

Two of these guys stepped up against the Mavs. One was highly inefficient and was dragging the offense down. Can you guess who?

take it easy on them brotha...

:lol

ElNono
03-01-2015, 09:12 PM
Here's the big three's numbers against Dallas in 2006:

http://s5.postimg.org/lz7edl1xz/2006_Mavs_Spurs.png

Two of these guys stepped up against the Mavs. One was highly inefficient and was dragging the offense down. Can you guess who?

And Duncan had planar fasciitis, IIRC... That series single-handedly earned Devin Harris a max contract...

daslicer
03-01-2015, 09:17 PM
Here's the big three's numbers against Dallas in 2006:

http://s5.postimg.org/lz7edl1xz/2006_Mavs_Spurs.png

Two of these guys stepped up against the Mavs. One was highly inefficient and was dragging the offense down. Can you guess who?

Again you claimed Parker took more FG attempts than Duncan and that chart shows it not to be true. So I don't know what you are trying to prove. Also hypothetically since you hate Parker who the hell could the Spurs have gotten at that time to replace him?

K...
03-01-2015, 10:12 PM
Will the agenda crew settle this for me. Parker under performs in the playoffs. But Harlem and Apo have previously argued that all point guards under perform in the playoffs. Why are you guys so hung up on this? Which is it?

Oh, and LOL at 42% being terrible. Tony, like Koby, took difficult shots. It was the style of the time to heroball. If parker was as bad as you guys say during his supposed peak why was he the spurs starting point guard and not, say beno udrih. Is the greatest coach of all time somehow duped into point guard obsession? why didn't gino start? Why did we abandon four down to run the offense through an inefficient point guard?

100%duncan
03-01-2015, 10:14 PM
Meh too far

K...
03-01-2015, 10:16 PM
, Pop thinks there's nothing wrong with the Frenchie - dangerous for the Spurs imo. We're going to need everyone to catch fire and start playing at a historic level come playoff time(like last year) in order to offset Tony's terrible play.

Why do people think pop can't see Tony sucks? Is this fan fiction or a deeply held belief? Isn't it more likely that he's giving Parker ample time to work out his issues given that hes an all time great who deserves such respect. I mean maybe pop is dumb. He's got two good point guards, he could make the switch.

TheGreatYacht
03-01-2015, 10:22 PM
Here's the big three's numbers against Dallas in 2006:

http://s5.postimg.org/lz7edl1xz/2006_Mavs_Spurs.png

Two of these guys stepped up against the Mavs. One was highly inefficient and was dragging the offense down. Can you guess who?
Funny stuff coming from the dyke who gets a hard on for a 12/38 Chimprook performance

dabom
03-01-2015, 10:27 PM
Funny stuff coming from the dyke who gets a hard on for a 12/38 Chimprook performance

Do you know the diff between % and TS% you stupid fuck? :lmao

Johnny RIngo
03-01-2015, 10:29 PM
Again you claimed Parker took more FG attempts than Duncan and that chart shows it not to be true. So I don't know what you are trying to prove.

You threw Manu under the bus for that series. The chart shows that Duncan and Manu were pretty damn good (and highly efficient). TP took 38 more shots than Manu and still scored less per game. When you have two guys scoring on ridiculous efficiency(60 TS%) and another scoring at a piss poor 47% TS, it seems strange to blame the guy that actually played well.

And I was talking about the '04 Lakers when I mentioned TP taking more shots than TD. Frenchie took 22 more shots than Duncan over those six games and had a putrid series as far as efficiency goes(42 TS%).


Also hypothetically since you hate Parker who the hell could the Spurs have gotten at that time to replace him?

I don't hate TP. I just find him to be incredibly frustrating to watch in the playoffs...turns into a chucker way too often, makes excuses, has problems running the offense, etc

TheGreatYacht
03-01-2015, 10:33 PM
Do you know the diff between % and TS% you stupid fuck? :lmao
Makes it even worse for WB you retard :lmao shot 1/10 from deep that game :lol

Quit sounding like a used condom, and stick to defending YOUR shit takes :tu

Johnny RIngo
03-01-2015, 10:33 PM
Will the agenda crew settle this for me. Parker under performs in the playoffs. But Harlem and Apo have previously argued that all point guards under perform in the playoffs. Why are you guys so hung up on this? Which is it?

Oh, and LOL at 42% being terrible. Tony, like Koby, took difficult shots. It was the style of the time to heroball. If parker was as bad as you guys say during his supposed peak why was he the spurs starting point guard and not, say beno udrih. Is the greatest coach of all time somehow duped into point guard obsession? why didn't gino start? Why did we abandon four down to run the offense through an inefficient point guard?

:lol using FG%

And yeah, 47 TS% is BAD...that's Iverson-esque.

Johnny RIngo
03-01-2015, 10:37 PM
Makes it even worse for WB you retard :lmao shot 1/10 from deep that game :lol

Quit sounding like a used condom, and stick to defending YOUR shit takes :tu

TS% stands for true shooting percentage you fucking moron. Not three point percentage.

apalisoc_9
03-01-2015, 10:41 PM
TS% stands for true shooting percentage you fucking moron. Not three point percentage.

:lol

K...
03-01-2015, 10:43 PM
:lol using FG%

And yeah, 47 TS% is BAD...that's Iverson-esque.

why?

True Shooting Percentage; the formula is PTS / (2 * TSA). True shooting percentage is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account field goals, 3-point field goals, and free throws. True Shooting Attempts; the formula is FGA + 0.44 * FTA.
Glossary | Basketball-Reference.com
www.basketball-reference.com/about/glossary.html

It looks like you picked at stat that punishes parker for things he wasn't asked to do in the offense.

Tony shoots 42%, he doesn't shoot any threes and shoots 75% from the line. What is the problem? He's the second option that year, third if Manu was playing. Ya'll are cherry picking stats to show things that just aren't there.

TheGreatYacht
03-01-2015, 10:43 PM
TS% stands for true shooting percentage you fucking moron. Not three point percentage.
No shit numnuts, three point shots are a part of TS%... Chimpbrook shot 1/10 the game he gave you children in vs PHX

Quit contradicting yourself. You go at a player for shooting bad, but dick ride another just because your midget crew does it

dabom
03-01-2015, 10:43 PM
No shit numnuts, three point shots are a part of TS%... Chimpbrook shot 1/10 the game he gave you children in vs PHX

Quit contradicting yourself. You go at a player for shooting bad, but dick ride another just because your midget crew does it

also his freethrows faggot. :lmao

TheGreatYacht
03-01-2015, 10:46 PM
also his freethrows faggot. :lmao
Quiet down downy. I'm talking to someone about stats... Don't make me bring up the thread where you couldn't understand how Kawhi was one of the shittiest drivers in the league... And you needed someone to explain to you what my stat meant :lmao

K...
03-01-2015, 10:47 PM
ITs revisionist fan history to suggest parker dictated manu's bench role.You pretend coaches and GMs can go back to 2006 and play Manu heavy minutes. Then the stats would look right to you. You can tell Manu to shoot more. But you can't change history and you look foolish trying to pin parker on sabotaging Manu's career.

Holy hell, i get it.Manu was better. Thank god TOny could eat so many minutes and not wear Manu into the ground.

dabom
03-01-2015, 10:47 PM
Quiet down downy. I'm talking to someone about stats... Don't make me bring up the thread where you couldn't understand how Kawhi was one of the shittiest drivers in the league... And you needed someone to explain to you what my stat meant :lmao

words vs stats. You don't know the difference. :lmao

dabom
03-01-2015, 10:49 PM
ITs revisionist fan history to suggest parker dictated manu's bench role.You pretend coaches and GMs can go back to 2006 and play Manu heavy minutes. Then the stats would look right to you. You can tell Manu to shoot more. But you can't change history and you look foolish trying to pin parker on sabotaging Manu's career.

Holy hell, i get it.Manu was better. Thank god TOny could eat so many minutes and not wear Manu into the ground.

k.. you are beginning to be one of this sites worst posters of 2015 season. No one even replies to ur shitty takes. :lmao

K...
03-01-2015, 10:50 PM
Finally, agenda crew. Plz address the point guard argument in light of the various attempts to blame parkers playoff numbers for under performance.


This is one of the agenda's crews best most though out arguments! cmon.

Also if one of the short bus could try and answer the query. It's a legitimate basketball question. If you don't want to scroll up or haven't read the point guard thread in the NBA forum i can help you narrow the question and find the relevant sources.

K...
03-01-2015, 10:52 PM
DADOM I CAN"T HEAR YOU< I HAVE YOU ON IGNORE


but i looked at your comment and i accept your criticism, i am a pretty bad poster who has no e-crew nor knowledge of advanced stats. I did not watch the last game...lol. If you reject my role as an interlocutor or arbitrator of logic than so be it. But hey it's not like i haven't just asked the crew to talk basketball with me. They could.

Hoops Czar
03-01-2015, 10:54 PM
k.. you are beginning to be one of this sites worst posters of 2015 season. No one even replies to ur shitty takes. :lmao

:lmao The irony in this post.

dabom
03-01-2015, 10:55 PM
DADOM I CAN"T HEAR YOU< I HAVE YOU ON IGNORE


but i looked at your comment and i accept your criticism, i am a pretty bad poster who has no e-crew nor knowledge of advanced stats. I did not watch the last game...lol. If you reject my role as an interlocutor or arbitrator of logic than so be it. But hey it's not like i haven't just asked the crew to talk basketball with me. They could.

It's alright man. NP

dabom
03-01-2015, 10:56 PM
:lmao The irony in this post.

Lots of Fe in ur diet man. :lol

TheGreatYacht
03-01-2015, 10:57 PM
k.. you are beginning to be one of this sites worst posters of 2015 season. No one even replies to ur shitty takes. :lmao
:lol :tu Mods should just do you a favor and end your e-life , tbh.. :lmao

K...
03-01-2015, 10:57 PM
no really cmon, take a stab at it.....why does Harlem say point guards are all inefficient in the playoffs yet single out parker here? It doesn't make sense...can you spot the flaw in my logic?

Lets start here....which point guards elevated their performance in the playoffs. That would be a good start.

K...
03-01-2015, 10:58 PM
Dabom if you want to wait until your daddy gets here, just say so.

TheGreatYacht
03-01-2015, 10:59 PM
no really cmon, take a stab at it.....why does Harlem say point guards are all inefficient in the playoffs yet single out parker here? It doesn't make sense...can you spot the flaw in my logic?

Lets start here....which point guards elevated their performance in the playoffs. That would be a good start.
Bc Harlem is a troll. Nobody takes his threads serious besides Robdiaz, Lefty, and his Alt's :lol

ElNono
03-01-2015, 11:00 PM
Lets start here....which point guards elevated their performance in the playoffs. That would be a good start.

Speedy Claxton and Patty Mills come to mind...

TheGreatYacht
03-01-2015, 11:02 PM
Speedy Claxton and Patty Mills come to mind...
Nice b8 :lol

Off topic, but how many goals did Messi score outside of the qualifiers at the 2014 WC?

Clipper Nation
03-01-2015, 11:03 PM
Speedy Claxton and Patty Mills come to mind...
http://i.imgur.com/SNDYoxQ.jpg

dabom
03-01-2015, 11:04 PM
no really cmon, take a stab at it.....why does Harlem say point guards are all inefficient in the playoffs yet single out parker here? It doesn't make sense...can you spot the flaw in my logic?

Lets start here....which point guards elevated their performance in the playoffs. That would be a good start.

I don't know all the PGs in the NBA over all the years but I sure do know parker is an underperformer. I can probably only point to 2 or 3 times he played great and in some he just fizzled out. The only one defining moment as a PG was in 2007 and even then the Cavs never had a chance. You explain to me now how Tony has had any positive impact in any spurs championship besides the 2007 cavs.

dabom
03-01-2015, 11:05 PM
Tony parker has an "injury" has been his saving grace for some time now. :lmao

K...
03-01-2015, 11:09 PM
Speedy Claxton and Patty Mills come to mind...

I was thinking only starting point guards should count. I'm ruling out Claxton b/c parker was really young back then. His first rodeo. Mills is really a gino puppet.

ElNono
03-01-2015, 11:11 PM
I was thinking only starting point guards should count.

oh, never mind then. carry on.

K...
03-01-2015, 11:11 PM
I don't know all the PGs in the NBA over all the years but I sure do know parker is an underperformer. I can probably only point to 2 or 3 times he played great and in some he just fizzled out. The only one defining moment as a PG was in 2007 and even then the Cavs never had a chance. You explain to me now how Tony has had any positive impact in any spurs championship besides the 2007 cavs.

I don't claim Parker has been dominant in the playoffs. He did coatail off Duncan and Gino to a lesser extend.

So Dabom has 1/2 the argument. Dabom, Harlem has famously said that no point guard led team will win the title...do you agree...if so why.

And then, if all point guards struggle in the playoffs, why is Parker special?

ElNono
03-01-2015, 11:12 PM
Off topic, but how many goals did Messi score outside of the qualifiers at the 2014 WC?

:lol that's kinda random... IIRC, 4 goals...

ElNono
03-01-2015, 11:14 PM
Not to derail this thread, but I thought Patty played WAY over his head in last playoffs. Which was great, obviously. If you have a min, check out SVG going nuts over Mills shooting in Games 4 and 5 of the Finals...

K...
03-01-2015, 11:15 PM
oh, never mind then. carry on.

no it's cool, i appreciate well crafted parker jokes so long as they are not shoved down my face by player fan or repeated until they become memes. I have repeatedly stated that i actually find Harlem's trolling to be funny. It's the various puppets taking things too seriously and Apo's addiction to the new thread button that are ruining this forum.

dabom
03-01-2015, 11:17 PM
I don't claim Parker has been dominant in the playoffs. He did coatail off Duncan and Gino to a lesser extend.

So Dabom has 1/2 the argument. Dabom, Harlem has famously said that no point guard led team will win the title...do you agree...if so why.

And then, if all point guards struggle in the playoffs, why is Parker special?

Greatest coach in the world. Greatest system in the world. GOAT of his generation to bail him out in crunch time. Duncan probably gets the rock the most out of any spur in crunch time. And he still comes through.
Greatest FO in the world to get GEMS like Kawhi. Beast for the next Spur generation. Elite role players like patty tiago and green. This team goes as far as duncan or Kawhi goes. Parker is just there for the ride tbh.

TheGreatYacht
03-01-2015, 11:18 PM
:lol that's kinda random... IIRC, 4 goals...
No lmao. Let me put it this way.. How many goals has Messi scored during elimination stages in all of his WC's?

Calispursfan11
03-01-2015, 11:18 PM
congrats to Malik/Harlem/Apocalypse for jerking itself off to TP's weight fluctuations.

ElNono
03-01-2015, 11:21 PM
No lmao. Let me put it this way.. How many goals has Messi scored during elimination stages in all of his WC's?

you mean out of the group stage? 5 goals total.

K...
03-01-2015, 11:21 PM
Dabom, I'm going to bed, but the Puzzle is still, why is parker a role player when Harlem has said all Point Guards across time and history require help to win championships. I'll go bump that thread again tonight to help y'all

Ice009
03-01-2015, 11:31 PM
back to back
also parker did not take shots others were hitting
nice that he was not
also when you have a bad groin and hamstring back to back games your jumper will not fall
he did look more confident out there
leonard was on fire
spurs need either leonard or parker on fire

leonard on the road trip was not alot better then tp on the o end
both need to play well against some times to win
lets see what tp does against kings with three days of rest

Both need to play defense. I agree with you that both of them weren't great on the road trip as a whole. That's a fair statement.

Kawhi definitely had some off games, both offensively and defensively. I think both of their main problems were that they weren't good on offense and they combined that by not playing good defense on top of that. Kawhi was pressing on offense the first game back from the All-Star break and he had games where he wasn't playing good defense at all, well not until these last two games anyway. It seemed like he completely forgot about trying to focus on defense that first game back against the Clippers and he was just pressing to score. I think he let his offensive struggles affect his defense. Now that he's back to playing defense, the offense is starting to come to him. That's the way he needs to play. He's a monster defensively, that when combined with Danny and Tiago playing to their capabilities on that end of the court, those three help make the Spurs a really, really good defensive team.

I don't know if TP's struggles are due to injury, but if he's OK physically, then I'd like to see him concentrate on trying to play better defense and just run the team on offense. His offense will come back to him if he's somewhat healthy. He just needs to not press, just play defense and run the team.

K...
03-01-2015, 11:38 PM
rather than bump the thread and ruin the nba forum, here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218218&page=2&highlight=point+guard Thats from 2013. It's good.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244069 this one is Apos.

Happy reading.

HERES MORE!!!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199376&highlight=point+guard classic tony hate

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232250&highlight=point+guard

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233227&highlight=point+guard ... not really relevant (coaches) but holy cow that second post with the Jacque Vaughn bads.








Oh man and while i'm digging up old threads...APO this was you!!!! Bitching about trolls in 2011 and look what you became today!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176352&highlight=obsession

ElNono
03-02-2015, 12:00 AM
The "PG-led teams will never win a championship" theory is originally from DOK, tbh...

ElNono
03-02-2015, 12:06 AM
rather than bump the thread and ruin the nba forum, here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218218&page=2&highlight=point+guard Thats from 2013. It's good.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244069 this one is Apos.

Happy reading.

HERES MORE!!!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199376&highlight=point+guard classic tony hate

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232250&highlight=point+guard

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233227&highlight=point+guard ... not really relevant (coaches) but holy cow that second post with the Jacque Vaughn bads.

Oh man and while i'm digging up old threads...APO this was you!!!! Bitching about trolls in 2011 and look what you became today!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176352&highlight=obsession

In hindsight, this is a terrible thread too, tbh...

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119145

dabom
03-02-2015, 12:10 AM
rather than bump the thread and ruin the nba forum, here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218218&page=2&highlight=point+guard Thats from 2013. It's good.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244069 this one is Apos.

Happy reading.

HERES MORE!!!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199376&highlight=point+guard classic tony hate

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232250&highlight=point+guard

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233227&highlight=point+guard ... not really relevant (coaches) but holy cow that second post with the Jacque Vaughn bads.








Oh man and while i'm digging up old threads...APO this was you!!!! Bitching about trolls in 2011 and look what you became today!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176352&highlight=obsession

This is mostly about TP shrinking in the playoffs. 2012 and 2013. Also right before the 2014 playoffs where tony sucked balls tbh. You'll mostly find tp shrinking in the playoffs. If we lost a series, TP is probably the main culprit outside of some legendary plays. FYI Magic is a Point forward. Billups was probably a whole team effort. I don't know about IT so I can't really say much. Putting ur chips on a PG is idiotic if you ask me. UR PG can't be ur best player or else your never going to win a chip outside of anomalies.

dabom
03-02-2015, 12:11 AM
In hindsight, this is a terrible thread too, tbh...

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119145

:lmao

rasuo214
03-02-2015, 12:20 AM
Saying a PG led team won't win a title/PGs are overrated isn't the same as saying all PGs struggle in the playoffs.

Johnny RIngo
03-02-2015, 12:34 AM
Will the agenda crew settle this for me. Parker under performs in the playoffs. But Harlem and Apo have previously argued that all point guards under perform in the playoffs. Why are you guys so hung up on this? Which is it?

It's more of a case of TP being uniquely bad in the playoffs compared to other points. Look at Parker compared to a few of his contemporaries at the point guard position when it comes to playoff production.

118 ORtg - Billups
116 ORtg - Nash
117 ORtg - Paul
103 ORtg - Parker

Now let's look at efficiency:

.583 TS% - Nash
.578 TS% - Billups
.575 TS% - Paul
.518 TS% - Parker

He's nowhere near the other three. It's pretty disappointing because Tony's pretty damn good in the regular season(109 ORtg, 55 TS%). He just seem unable to translate that into the playoffs. Not that surprising the Spurs have suffered some legendary choke jobs in the post-season


Tony, like Koby, took difficult shots. It was the style of the time to heroball.

There's nothing wrong with heroballing if you're good at it. TP makes for a pretty shitty heroballer though - he's not a natural shooter like Nash and he can't draw free throws like Billups. He's just not suited to carry an offense. He has some flukish series where he goes off like '07 Cavs or the '09 Mavs but, more often than not, he's not that great at it. Regular season, he's fine. Playoffs is the problems. He's the Karl Malone of point guards.

And that Kobe comparison isn't too good. Yeah, we all make fun of the narcissist chucker but he's a pretty efficient ISO player when he wants to be. Has a career .541 TS% in the post-season. Compare that to TP's crappy .518 TS%.


If parker was as bad as you guys say during his supposed peak why was he the spurs starting point guard and not, say beno udrih. Is the greatest coach of all time somehow duped into point guard obsession? why didn't gino start? Why did we abandon four down to run the offense through an inefficient point guard?

Cause Beno was much worse? Manu was always the best playmaker for the Spurs in the playoffs. Then and now. Beno wasn't even an option. He choked worse than Parker.


why?

True Shooting Percentage; the formula is PTS / (2 * TSA). True shooting percentage is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account field goals, 3-point field goals, and free throws. True Shooting Attempts; the formula is FGA + 0.44 * FTA.
Glossary | Basketball-Reference.com
www.basketball-reference.com/about/glossary.html

It looks like you picked at stat that punishes parker for things he wasn't asked to do in the offense.

Tony shoots 42%, he doesn't shoot any threes and shoots 75% from the line. What is the problem? He's the second option that year, third if Manu was playing. Ya'll are cherry picking stats to show things that just aren't there.

No, you're using a stat that's archaic and misrepresents players that can draw fouls or shoot threes. Duncan and Manu are both particulary good at drawing fouls. Manu can shoot from deep. We're comparing the efficiency of all three players so it makes sense to use a stat that compensates properly for three pointers and free throws. Like I said, TS% is a better gauge of efficiency in this comparison. Why punish Duncan and Manu for having skills that Parker doesn't have?

Brazil
03-02-2015, 11:10 AM
classy thread tbh

:tu

nice to see a poster concerned by a player's health

Diego20
03-02-2015, 07:30 PM
:cry you will be missed :cry

He had a great career and is a lock for the HOF. He's Tony (Enrique) Parker, one of the most amazing heroballers I've ever seen. Those 6 assists per game will be missed..

I'd like to express my deepest sympathy on your sad loss TheGreatFaggot, hater, cry havoc, Brazil (or France i don't know), Porker Mason, etc. This thread is a tribute of our beloved number 9 so please, everyone come here and post his bad stats tbh.

Now let's remember the greates moments of him:


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oh boy I had to make a deep look of his career and only found a few, well let's see:

:cry 2007 finals MVP :cry:

1 shot in the 2013 finals against Miami where he choked ala Tony..

As a singer:

2007 - RANK 19 (France) album TP (dat name though)

He co-directed a one hour movie called "Un Chiffre, un homme" in 2008 and he also appeared in the 2008 French film Asterix at the olimpic games.
:cry MVParker :cry


http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/307/files/2015/02/tony-parker-nba-san-antonio-spurs-denver-nuggets-850x560.jpg

ElNono
03-02-2015, 07:35 PM
classless thread

apalisoc_9
03-02-2015, 07:51 PM
Diego is one of the best and most dominanat posters in spurstalk tbh.

SupremeGuy
03-02-2015, 07:55 PM
:lol

dabom
03-02-2015, 07:59 PM
:lmao

dabom
03-02-2015, 07:59 PM
RIP tony. You will be missed. :lol

spurs10
03-02-2015, 07:59 PM
classless thread

Southwest Texas Fan
03-02-2015, 08:12 PM
Is this really necessary?

dabom
03-02-2015, 08:13 PM
Is this really necessary?

Most definitely. :lol

TXstbobcat
03-02-2015, 08:34 PM
I really hope Tony plays his way out of this slump. He has meant a lot to the franchise.

Diego20
03-02-2015, 08:40 PM
I really hope Tony plays his way out of this slump. He has meant a lot to the franchise.

It happened with Manu, who knows.. maybe it can happen with Tony..

Diego20
03-02-2015, 08:41 PM
Enrique tards called a mod to move my thread to an existing one..




:lmao

K...
03-02-2015, 08:41 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176352&highlight=obsession


Apo, please comment on that thread I linked, you said some really powerful truth.

BatManu20
03-02-2015, 08:43 PM
Tony parker has an "injury" has been his saving grace for some time now. :lmao

http://i58.tinypic.com/18nasi.png

dabom
03-02-2015, 08:47 PM
Enrique tards called a mod to move my thread to an existing one..




:lmao

:lmao manu thread bashing is fine but oooouuuuhhh not enrique. :lmao

Diego20
03-02-2015, 08:49 PM
:lmao manu thread bashing is fine but oooouuuuhhh not enrique. :lmao

Indeed

K...
03-02-2015, 09:20 PM
Diego, Dabom, plz ppoint to the last 100 anti manu threads.

Here is what your master Apo said in post #6 from the RIP Manu thread:

Listen, everyone knows ginobilis is not the same anymore. But it's crazy to start a thread about him being done. I'll bump this thread when starts playing right. Fcking emotional fags

Why are you disobeying you master?

Here is master KL:

Never count Manu out, he has played like this before only to return to being the best player on the Spurs.

This is essentially what PArker defenders are saying right now.

rasuo214
03-02-2015, 10:08 PM
To be fair I don't think Manu has gone through a stretch as bad as Tony has this season but Manu got a lot of shit for his 2013 Finals performance.

Old School 44
03-02-2015, 10:13 PM
The funny thing about all these Parker post/threads is they're not even REALLY about Parker anymore. It's about getting a rise out of one group or another.

:wakeup

ElNono
03-02-2015, 10:18 PM
To be fair I don't think Manu has gone through a stretch as bad as Tony has this season but Manu got a lot of shit for his 2013 Finals performance.

I actually think he didn't get enough credit and praise for his 2014 playoffs and especially his Finals performance, being 36 and all... Just re-watched games 3, 4 and 5 last night, and he was an absolute stud.

Game 5 was just throwback Manu night. Got the crowd into it with a couple of baskets and that tussle with Battier. Then the dunk after taking the lead and capping the run with a three pointer in the 3rd quarter that basically sealed the deal. The magic was in the air at AT&T Center again.

I think what happens is that we take a lot for granted with these guys...

TheGreatYacht
03-02-2015, 11:35 PM
I actually think he didn't get enough credit and praise for his 2014 playoffs and especially his Finals performance, being 36 and all... Just re-watched games 3, 4 and 5 last night, and he was an absolute stud.

Game 5 was just throwback Manu night. Got the crowd into it with a couple of baskets and that tussle with Battier. Then the dunk after taking the lead and capping the run with a three pointer in the 3rd quarter that basically sealed the deal. The magic was in the air at AT&T Center again.

I think what happens is that we take a lot for granted with these guys...
Game 5 Manu, beast. Made Battier retire on the spot :lol

Mr Bones
03-02-2015, 11:40 PM
The funny thing about all these Parker post/threads is they're not even REALLY about Parker anymore. It's about getting a rise out of one group or another.

:wakeup

mkurts
03-02-2015, 11:43 PM
Parker is in the league bottom in true RPM numbers amongst all PGs this year in the NBA, but lets keep pretending he is the go to guy and play him heavy minutes.

apalisoc_9
03-02-2015, 11:49 PM
damn Ringo going ham

rasuo214
03-03-2015, 12:21 AM
I actually think he didn't get enough credit and praise for his 2014 playoffs and especially his Finals performance, being 36 and all... Just re-watched games 3, 4 and 5 last night, and he was an absolute stud.

Game 5 was just throwback Manu night. Got the crowd into it with a couple of baskets and that tussle with Battier. Then the dunk after taking the lead and capping the run with a three pointer in the 3rd quarter that basically sealed the deal. The magic was in the air at AT&T Center again.

I think what happens is that we take a lot for granted with these guys...

Manu made up for 2013 and I'm sure it was a huge relief for him. Game 5 was amazing, especially during that comeback stretch, then you had Patty raining 3s in the 3rd and Manu adding onto it.


Hopefully Parker redeems this awful season, by playing well in the playoffs.

lefty
03-03-2015, 12:38 AM
Parker is in the league bottom in true RPM numbers amongst all PGs this year in the NBA, but lets keep pretending he is the go to guy and play him heavy minutes.
http://media0.giphy.com/media/AbYxDs20DECQw/giphy.gif

Sean Cagney
03-03-2015, 02:38 AM
Manu made up for 2013 and I'm sure it was a huge relief for him. Game 5 was amazing, especially during that comeback stretch, then you had Patty raining 3s in the 3rd and Manu adding onto it.


Hopefully Parker redeems this awful season, by playing well in the playoffs.
I agree on Manu last year, he was pretty good in the playoffs and finals and did redeem his horrible season/playoffs from the year before somewhat. I hope Parker shows for the playoffs, hell we need him to show.

apalisoc_9
03-03-2015, 02:40 AM
Parker is in the league bottom in true RPM numbers amongst all PGs this year in the NBA, but lets keep pretending he is the go to guy and play him heavy minutes.

spurs10
03-03-2015, 02:59 AM
I actually think he didn't get enough credit and praise for his 2014 playoffs and especially his Finals performance, being 36 and all... Just re-watched games 3, 4 and 5 last night, and he was an absolute stud.

Game 5 was just throwback Manu night. Got the crowd into it with a couple of baskets and that tussle with Battier. Then the dunk after taking the lead and capping the run with a three pointer in the 3rd quarter that basically sealed the deal. The magic was in the air at AT&T Center again.

I think what happens is that we take a lot for granted with these guys... You can say that again (so I'll just post it again). :toast

Johnny RIngo
03-03-2015, 10:31 AM
I actually think he didn't get enough credit and praise for his 2014 playoffs and especially his Finals performance, being 36 and all... Just re-watched games 3, 4 and 5 last night, and he was an absolute stud.

Game 5 was just throwback Manu night. Got the crowd into it with a couple of baskets and that tussle with Battier. Then the dunk after taking the lead and capping the run with a three pointer in the 3rd quarter that basically sealed the deal. The magic was in the air at AT&T Center again.

I think what happens is that we take a lot for granted with these guys...

That game 6 three against OKC was probably the biggest shot of the playoffs. Definitely the most rewatched Spurs game in recent memory for me. The Miami series was icing on the cake. Spurs got revenge for 2012's backdoor sweep and 2013's 6 - can't ask for a more satisfying playoff run.

K...
03-03-2015, 12:52 PM
Listen, everyone knows Parker is not the same anymore. But it's crazy to start a thread about him being done. I'll bump this thread when starts playing right. Fcking emotional fags


Truth bomb.gif size large uncensored

dabom
03-03-2015, 12:56 PM
Listen, everyone knows Parker is not the same anymore. But it's crazy to start a thread about him being done. I'll bump this thread when starts playing right. Fcking emotional fags


Truth bomb.gif size large uncensored


:lmao


You going to bump this when he injures himself playing for france?

BatManu20
03-03-2015, 07:11 PM
They may not want him at this rate :lol

http://i60.tinypic.com/280pqoj.png


http://hoopshype.com/rumors/r/5KD3/tony-parker-wants-to-play-with-france-this-summer

BatManu20
03-03-2015, 07:19 PM
Here’s Parker via Marc Spears of Yahoo Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tony-parker-faces-biggest-challenge-of-his-career-as-spurs-try-to-find-old-form-041319008.html):


“I’ve been through a lot of tough challenges in my career,” Parker said. “Right now, this is up there.”
[…]

“I have not been the same since I came back, and it’s still bothering me,” he said. “Everybody knows. I am not going to use that as an excuse. I am just going to work it out until it gets better.”
[…]

“I am just trying to work it through it,” Parker said. “Hopefully, it will be good pretty soon. At the same time, it’s tough because the whole team is struggling and I’m struggling. It’s a tough time right now.”



http://uproxx.com/dimemag/2015/03/tony-parker-spurs-hamstring-struggles/

apalisoc_9
03-04-2015, 11:35 PM
With the spurs up 20 points, and knowing he is 12 points away from the number 1 scorer..Parker took 8 shots in the third to up his total to 19 points..

Such a competitor..

Reminds me of kobe and his Goal playing alongside Shaq..

Aint no one going to have a career night when these two competitive scorers are playing.

:flag:

TheGreatYacht
03-04-2015, 11:36 PM
0/10

"crickets" - crickets

EDIT: Thread is dying, quick, shortbus bump this to the top

dabom
03-04-2015, 11:43 PM
With the spurs up 20 points, and knowing he is 12 points away from the number 1 scorer..Parker took 8 shots in the third to up his total to 19 points..

Such a competitor..

Reminds me of kobe and his Goal playing alongside Shaq..

Aint no one going to have a career night when these two competitive scorers are playing.

:flag:

:lol

Clipper Nation
03-04-2015, 11:47 PM
OP with another great basketball take, Queen Joseph with more faggotry in response. What else is new?

Malik Hairston
03-04-2015, 11:56 PM
:lol nobody does it better, tbh..

AlexJones
03-05-2015, 12:07 AM
0/10

"crickets" - crickets

EDIT: Thread is dying, quick, shortbus bump this to the top

Thread started 32 minutes ago
You replied 31 minutes ago.

Jesus, man.

Malik Hairston
03-05-2015, 12:08 AM
Thread started 32 minutes ago
You replied 31 minutes ago.

Jesus, man.

:lmao..

Silver&Black
03-05-2015, 12:21 AM
Aint no one going to have a career night when these two competitive scorers are playing.

Sorry your boy didn't have a "career night". Just be happy with the 30 point win....

Player fans....smh.

ElNono
03-05-2015, 02:16 AM
:lol what's with the big letters?

dabom
03-05-2015, 02:26 AM
:lol what's with the big letters?

I'm yelling!

K...
03-05-2015, 03:16 PM
HMM, i've detected a new trend in Parker hate. It's called shifting goalposts. Several weeks ago Parkers sin was casting gloom over the lockeroom and committing unspecified bro crimes against player's wives and girlfriends.

They've attacked his efficiency. So when Tony, KwHi and the spurs team have a decent game the sin for parker is that he did not score the points in a timely way as if points were worth more when teams are within striking distance.

There is definitely a case that being able to score points in crunchtime is a valuable skill. But in this regular season game crunch time really didn't happen. Points are points guys, keeping leads is just as important as building them.

But anyway, kudos to APo for reusing an old thread instead of creating new one. You are learning boy.

boutons_deux
03-05-2015, 03:47 PM
Tony's playing better, but I'd rather he dribbled less, and looked more to create for others, and take for himself whatever opens up.

As Coach said in Hoosiers, "don't shoot until after 4 passes" aka ball movement, not Tony movement.

SASdynasty!
03-05-2015, 06:18 PM
Can't wait to see Parker get back to form. His go-left jumper was working last night and he was getting the roll on his floater. Tim did a good job of holding off defenders to give him space. I'm confident he will be the Parker we need to have a shot at another deep run.

Clipper Nation
03-05-2015, 09:36 PM
But anyway, kudos to APo for reusing an old thread instead of creating new one. You are learning boy.

Actually, he did start a new thread, but the short bus cried to the admins to get it merged into this one. Meanwhile, it can be open season on every other player in here without the admins stepping in.

K...
03-05-2015, 09:54 PM
oh, well i retract my kudo.

unleashbaynes
03-05-2015, 09:58 PM
Actually, he did start a new thread, but the short bus cried to the admins to get it merged into this one. Meanwhile, it can be open season on every other player in here without the admins stepping in.

Manu after the Finals 2 years ago took a waaaaay worse beating. This is nothing.

K...
03-05-2015, 11:34 PM
Manu after the Finals 2 years ago took a waaaaay worse beating. This is nothing.

but that was during a 4 year champ drought. It's just way weird to see so much parker hate after a rare and beautiful championship. Add to the fact that a certain group of canandian shit heads are the pied piper of the group and you can see how dumb it is.

ElNono
03-06-2015, 12:32 AM
but that was during a 4 year champ drought. It's just way weird to see so much parker hate after a rare and beautiful championship. Add to the fact that a certain group of canandian shit heads are the pied piper of the group and you can see how dumb it is.

It really isn't that weird. Tony has been cultivating some of it over the years, it was only a matter of time he would show some decline and certain peeps jump at it.

What's weird is that some of the same guys that were trolling with Gino 2 years ago are the same guys asking for moderation about Tony now...

Then again, Matt Bonner was hated even on championship years, tbh...

Diego20
03-08-2015, 02:37 PM
He scored 32 points, he was arguably our best Spurs player TODAY and last game.

MVParker:cry


That's what TP fans think..






oh wait, he's being paid 12,5 mill this year, oh god why

TheGreatYacht
03-08-2015, 02:38 PM
I agree, the man's been underpaid his whole career

Nathan89
03-08-2015, 02:39 PM
He scored 32 points, he was arguably our best Spurs player TODAY and last game.

MVParker:cry


That's what TP fans think..






oh wait, he's being paid 12,5 mill this year, oh god why

This is the last year of his old contract. Nobody cares about this year of his contract.

apalisoc_9
03-08-2015, 02:39 PM
He scored 32 points, he was arguably our best Spurs player TODAY and last game.

MVParker:cry


That's what TP fans think..






oh wait, he's being paid 12,5 mill this year, oh god why

Rique fanboys are delusional tbh..

He is clearly not even a top 2 player in the team

This is TD and kawhi's team.

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 02:54 PM
He scored 32 points, he was arguably our best Spurs player TODAY and last game.

MVParker:cry


That's what TP fans think..






oh wait, he's being paid 12,5 mill this year, oh god why
Best scoring performance by a Spur this season...same with his 13 ast game. 12.5 million is a bargain for FMVParker.

pppp
03-08-2015, 03:09 PM
I feel sorry for you :(
I really do
Just envoy the win and the streak man...

K...
03-08-2015, 03:33 PM
Rique fanboys are delusional tbh..

He is clearly not even a top 2 player in the team

This is TD and kawhi's team.

Who are the spurs 3 and 4rht best players?

K...
03-08-2015, 03:35 PM
FWIW, Duncan, KAwhi, Parker, Gino,

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 03:36 PM
I feel sorry for you :(
I really do
Just envoy the win and the streak man...
Don't be sad.
This is fun for the children...

dabom
03-08-2015, 03:40 PM
:lmao

Silver&Black
03-08-2015, 03:49 PM
":lmao"

That's it? Great OP.....

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 03:52 PM
Thank God you're here to throw the wet blanket on that parade.
Just think of the sheer insanity that would happen if you didn't step in and take charge!

It'd be like Watts after Rodney King.
Damn.
Thanks for saving my tv from getting looted!

Hoops Czar
03-08-2015, 03:59 PM
Everytime dabom posts, the forum's IQ drops 75 points.

dabom
03-08-2015, 04:35 PM
Kawhi beasting tbh

K...
03-08-2015, 04:37 PM
How was there any "damage"? Parker scores 30. Spurs win. Kawhi is good. HArlem just stopped by to say "regular season". That's not really "damage" nor even a truth bomb. It's a legitimate argument that leaves unsaid Harems true expectations about Tony Parker and the Spurs.

dabom
03-08-2015, 04:38 PM
How was there any "damage"? Parker scores 30. Spurs win. Kawhi is good. HArlem just stopped by to say "regular season". That's not really "damage" nor even a truth bomb. It's a legitimate argument that leaves unsaid Harems true expectations about Tony Parker and the Spurs.

5 game win streak by the spurs. What do they ALL HAVE IN COMMON? :lmao
Kawhi putting this team on his back and taking us to the promise land again. :lobt2:

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 04:47 PM
5 game win streak by the spurs. What do they ALL HAVE IN COMMON? :lmao
Kawhi putting this team on his back and taking us to the promise land again. :lobt2:
Last 5 games:

Parker: 20.0 PPG
Leonard: 21.0 PPG

Wow, what a huge difference!

dabom
03-08-2015, 04:50 PM
Last 5 games:

Parker: 20.0 PPG
Leonard: 21.0 PPG

Wow, what a huge difference!

Just ppg? Please post all their stats please. :lmao





























:lmao

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 04:52 PM
Just ppg? Please post all their stats please. :lmao

:lmao
Parker: 53.2% shooting
Leonard: 55.0% shooting

Even more separation!

apalisoc_9
03-08-2015, 04:54 PM
damn dabom dunking on rique fanboys face..

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 04:54 PM
Parker: 53.2% shooting
Leonard: 55.0% shooting

Even more separation!
Parker: 0.6 TO
Leonard: 0.6 TO

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 04:54 PM
damn dabom dunking on rique fanboys face..
Good post

dabom
03-08-2015, 04:54 PM
REAL PLUS-MINUS LEADERS




RANK
PLAYER
RPM


1
Stephen Curry, GS
8.55


2
James Harden, HOU
7.83


3
Russell Westbrook, OKC
7.27


4
LeBron James, CLE
6.89


5
Anthony Davis, NO
6.49


6
Khris Middleton, MIL
5.93


7
Kawhi Leonard, SA
5.82


8
Chris Paul, LAC
5.77


9
DeMarcus Cousins, SAC
5.67


10
Damian Lillard, POR
5.55





:lmao

parker in page 13. :lmao

kawhi getting rebounds steals assists blocks and scoring. :lmao

parker getting shown up at the only thing he has done his entire career. :lmao

dabom
03-08-2015, 04:56 PM
damn dabom dunking on rique fanboys face..

:lol

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 04:56 PM
Parker: 0.6 TO
Leonard: 0.6 TO
Parker: 28.6 MPG
Leonard: 34.4 MPG

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 04:59 PM
REAL PLUS-MINUS LEADERS




RANK
PLAYER
RPM


1
Stephen Curry, GS
8.55


2
James Harden, HOU
7.83


3
Russell Westbrook, OKC
7.27


4
LeBron James, CLE
6.89


5
Anthony Davis, NO
6.49


6
Khris Middleton, MIL
5.93


7
Kawhi Leonard, SA
5.82


8
Chris Paul, LAC
5.77


9
DeMarcus Cousins, SAC
5.67


10
Damian Lillard, POR
5.55





:lmao

parker in page 13. :lmao

kawhi getting rebounds steals assists blocks and scoring. :lmao

parker getting shown up at the only thing he has done his entire career. :lmao
...which is the one thing Kawhi has never been able to do...score:

Career PPG:

Regular Season: 11.7 PPG
Playoffs 12.6 PPG

:rollin

dabom
03-08-2015, 04:59 PM
Parker: 28.6 MPG
Leonard: 34.4 MPG

One is 23 years old and one is 32. I don't think parker could play more minutes without hurting himself. :lmao

Opposing teams can't deal with his great defense. :lmao

Clipper Nation
03-08-2015, 05:00 PM
OP bringing the goods. Poster to watch in 2015, tbh.

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:02 PM
...which is the one thing Kawhi has never been able to do...score:

Career PPG:

Regular Season: 11.7 PPG
Playoffs 12.6 PPG

:rollin

1b during the playoffs. :lmao

Great defense.

Great rebounds

Great efficiency

James Worthy effect. FINALS > Playoffs > RS

Kawhi getting turnt-up for another FMVP :lmao

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 05:04 PM
One is 23 years old and one is 34. I don't think parker could play more minutes without hurting himself. :lmao

Opposing teams can't deal with his great defense. :lmao
Career 30 point games:

Leonard: 0 - http://bkref.com/tiny/a7KdD
Parker: 72 - http://bkref.com/tiny/V0I3N

Actually 73, because it's not showing today's game. I honestly thought this was a joke. I knew Kawhi was not exactly a great offensive player, but didn't know it was this bad.

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:05 PM
5 game win streak by the spurs. What do they ALL HAVE IN COMMON? :lmao
Kawhi putting this team on his back and taking us to the promise land again. :lobt2:

Definition of Player Fan.
Take his picture, put it in Webster's.

Done.
Bitch.

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 05:06 PM
1b during the playoffs. :lmao

Great defense.

Great rebounds

Great efficiency

James Worthy effect. FINALS > Playoffs > RS

Kawhi getting turnt-up for another FMVP :lmao
And in this one he might actually score as much as Parker...we'll have to watch and see...

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:06 PM
Definition of Player Fan.
Take his picture, put it in Webster's.

Done.
Bitch.

You know I'm right and you salty as fuck. You are the definition of player fan. :lmao

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:09 PM
Career 30 point games:

Leonard: 0 - http://bkref.com/tiny/a7KdD
Parker: 72 - http://bkref.com/tiny/V0I3N

Actually 73, because it's not showing today's game. I honestly thought this was a joke. I knew Kawhi was not exactly a great offensive player, but didn't know it was this bad.

Youngest FMVP since Duncan. Kawhi is the single most import piece that turned this franchise back to its normal championship pedigree. WCF and 2 Finals from first round busts and paper tigers.

Kawhi taking us to the promise land again. :flag:

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:10 PM
OP bringing the goods. Poster to watch in 2015, tbh.

:bobo

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 05:10 PM
You know I'm right and you salty as fuck. You are the definition of player fan. :lmao
Salty = making threads when TP scores more points in a game than Kawhi could ever dream of scoring. Not even in his wildest FMVP dreams could he drop 32...much less 55.

K...
03-08-2015, 05:11 PM
OP bringing the goods. Poster to watch in 2015, tbh.

Historically bad take

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:11 PM
You know I'm right and you salty as fuck. You are the definition of player fan. :lmao
Ummm... what?
Stupid ass.

You like this with real people in front of you? Be damn sad if you were and would explain a shit-load to everyone who reads you.

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:12 PM
Salty = making threads when TP scores more points in a game than Kawhi could ever dream of scoring. Not even in his wildest FMVP dreams could he drop 32...much less 55.

You keep pigeonholing this conversation. Kawhi does everything better than enrique and the scoring is the cherry on top. :lmao

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:13 PM
Ummm... what?
Stupid ass.

You like this with real people in front of you? Be damn sad if you were and would explain a shit-load to everyone who reads you.

Trying to derail this thread. Player fans. :lmao

K...
03-08-2015, 05:14 PM
So this is the best the short bus can come up with two hours after the game ended?

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.................................................. ..............................Yes, Kawhi was good. Ok you can go to bed now Dabom

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 05:16 PM
Youngest FMVP since Duncan. Kawhi is the single most import piece that turned this franchise back to its normal championship pedigree. WCF and 2 Finals from first round busts and paper tigers.

Kawhi taking us to the promise land again. :flag:
Hahahahahahah...you're using 2012?

Tony Parker 2012:

Regular Season: 18.3 / 7.7 / 2.9
Playoffs: 20.1 / 6.8 / 3.6

Kawhi Leonard 2012:

Regular Season: 7.9 / 5.1 / 1.1 :rollin
Playoffs: 8.6 / 5.9 / 0.6 :rollin

Hahahaha how would we have ever made the WCF without our 7.9/5.1 guy? Hahahahhahaha

But to be fair, Tony's production was only more than twice Kawhi's in RAW stats. I'm sure you can find one of the dozens of available advanced stats to prop Kawhi's "impactful" 2012 campaign. :lmao

Clipper Nation
03-08-2015, 05:16 PM
Historically bad take

Kawhi is carrying your boy Enrique, broke back belly draggin'.

http://i.imgur.com/qdkFK1y.jpg

Deal with it.

ohmwrecker
03-08-2015, 05:17 PM
Historically bad take

:lol

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:19 PM
Hahahahahahah...you're using 2012?

Tony Parker 2012:

Regular Season: 18.3 / 7.7 / 2.9
Playoffs: 20.1 / 6.8 / 3.6

Kawhi Leonard 2012:

Regular Season: 7.9 / 5.1 / 1.1 :rollin
Playoffs: 8.6 / 5.9 / 0.6 :rollin

Hahahaha how would we have ever made the WCF without our 7.9/5.1 guy? Hahahahhahaha

Funny thing is the spurs wouldn't have stupid fuck. :lmao

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:21 PM
Kawhi playing 40 mins tonight. Pop knows when to pull the trigger tbh.

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:22 PM
Kawhi is carrying your boy Enrique, broke back belly draggin'.

http://i.imgur.com/qdkFK1y.jpg

Deal with it.

:lmao

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 05:22 PM
Hahahahahahah...you're using 2012?

Tony Parker 2012:

Regular Season: 18.3 / 7.7 / 2.9
Playoffs: 20.1 / 6.8 / 3.6

Kawhi Leonard 2012:

Regular Season: 7.9 / 5.1 / 1.1 :rollin
Playoffs: 8.6 / 5.9 / 0.6 :rollin

Hahahaha how would we have ever made the WCF without our 7.9/5.1 guy? Hahahahhahaha

Funny thing is the spurs wouldn't have stupid fuck. :lmao
You do realize we swept the first 2 rounds of the playoffs right? Lol...but I'm sure we would have gotten beat by Utah or the Clippers if we didn't have our 7.9/5.1 guy. The amazing thing is he stepped up his game and almost became a 9/6 guy in the playoffs.

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 05:25 PM
Hahahahahahah...you're using 2012?

Tony Parker 2012:

Regular Season: 18.3 / 7.7 / 2.9
Playoffs: 20.1 / 6.8 / 3.6

Kawhi Leonard 2012:

Regular Season: 7.9 / 5.1 / 1.1 :rollin
Playoffs: 8.6 / 5.9 / 0.6 :rollin

Hahahaha how would we have ever made the WCF without our 7.9/5.1 guy? Hahahahhahaha

Funny thing is the spurs wouldn't have stupid fuck. :lmao
To his credit...he had the 11th highest PPG on the Spurs that year...just behind Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, Mills, Neal, Blair, Splitter, Jefferson, Green, and Jackson. (he ended up averaging 1.3 PPG more than Bonner that year to keep him out of the 12 spot)

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:26 PM
Trying to derail this thread. Player fans. :lmao
Sad. Honestly.

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:26 PM
[QUOTE=dabom;7862341]
You do realize we swept the first 2 rounds of the playoffs right? Lol...but I'm sure we would have gotten beat by Utah or the Clippers if we didn't have our 7.9/5.1 guy. The amazing thing is he stepped up his game and almost became a 9/6 guy in the playoffs.

Yeah we had kawhi sharing big minutes with jax. I already said the biggest difference between paper tigers and championship team that sweeps competition not in their league was kawhi.
Do you fail to see the difference between a kawhi and non-kawhi team looks like? Take kawhi off this team and we are a sub-500 team in the RS. Be happy to see greatness in our team playerfan. :lmao

ThaBigFundamental21
03-08-2015, 05:26 PM
Both are playing good. Both will need to be great come playoff time. Be thankful they have BOTH elevated their game at the right time. Shut up and stop bitching. Enjoy the last quarter of the season!

Diego20
03-08-2015, 05:28 PM
Sasdynasty = Perry Mason or K...

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:30 PM
[QUOTE=dabom;7862341]
To his credit...he had the 11th highest PPG on the Spurs that year...just behind Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, Mills, Neal, Blair, Splitter, Jefferson, Green, and Jackson.

Obviously you know nothing about the spurs system and how long it takes for pop to trust them on offense. Not kawh's fault his numbers were low. He just plays great defense unlike enrique.
:lmao at debating 2012 and derailing this thread like typical player fans.
Kawhi a top 10 player that actually gets better and more efficient in the playoffs. :lmao

look_at_g_shred
03-08-2015, 05:31 PM
Historically bad take
Same person. Parker hatecrew is really just one person with diff alts

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:33 PM
Same person. Parker hatecrew is really just one person with diff alts

Shutup faggot. :lmao

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:35 PM
Sasdynasty = Perry Mason or K...

I agree.

look_at_g_shred
03-08-2015, 05:35 PM
I could give a fuck who played great today as long as the team won playing Spurs basketball. Spurs have some momentum it seems...finally.

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:36 PM
Shutup faggot. :lmao
So smart.
Whip-like in his precision.

Definitely someone that should be listened to and read.

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 05:36 PM
[QUOTE=SASdynasty!;7862348]

Yeah we had kawhi sharing big minutes with jax. I already said the biggest difference between paper tigers and championship team that sweeps competition not in their league was kawhi.
Do you fail to see the difference between a kawhi and non-kawhi team looks like? Take kawhi off this team and we are a sub-500 team in the RS. Be happy to see greatness in our team playerfan. :lmao
Lol, yah the Duncan Spurs have never been a sub-.600 team before Kawhi, but without Kawhi I'm sure we wouldn't even be .500. We were basically a .500 team even this season when Kawhi and multiple other players were out like Mills and Belinelli (and some games even Parker, Duncan, & Ginobili being out). I get that Kawhi has impact, but the Spurs are still a good team without any one player. Come on, please tell me you see that.

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:38 PM
I could give a fuck who played great today as long as the team won playing Spurs basketball. Spurs have some momentum it seems...finally.

:worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy: http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Kawhi-Game.jpg

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:38 PM
So smart.
Whip-like in his precision.

Definitely someone that should be listened to and read.

you too faggot. :lmao

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:38 PM
:worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy: http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Kawhi-Game.jpg
Dick sucker.

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:40 PM
you too faggot. :lmao
Thank you for gracing me.
Let me know how Kawhi's dick smells.

I bet he doesn't shower for you.
Dirty bitch.

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:40 PM
[QUOTE=dabom;7862358]
Lol, yah the Duncan Spurs have never been a sub-.600 team before Kawhi, but without Kawhi I'm sure we wouldn't even be .500. We were basically a .500 team even this season when Kawhi and multiple other players were out like Mills and Belinelli (and some games even Parker, Duncan, & Ginobili being out). I get that Kawhi has impact, but the Spurs are still a good team without any one player. Come on, please tell me you see that.

Motherfucker are you blind? Look at our fucking records with and without. :lol

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:41 PM
Plum taking lefts and rights like a faggot. :lmao

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:43 PM
plum dynasty and k all alts. :lmao

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:45 PM
Plum taking lefts and rights like a faggot. :lmao
I'm sorry, did I leave a mark?
Player groupie.

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:46 PM
plum dynasty and k all alts. :lmao
Slurp those Kawhi fingers like they just had KFC on them baby.
You're doing it right now, aren't you?

Damn. Must be having a damn good time...

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:50 PM
Slurp those Kawhi fingers like they just had KFC on them baby.
You're doing it right now, aren't you?

Damn. Must be having a damn good time...

Dam dude. You just came out the closet right now typing that faggot shit from your homo mind. :lmao

K...
03-08-2015, 05:51 PM
Sasdynasty = Perry Mason or K...

That;s hilarious because I used to own that account but gave it away to the current user. It's not me, because i would never work that hard posting stats and stuff.

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:53 PM
Dam dude. You just came out the closet right now typing that faggot shit from your homo mind. :lmao
Slurp it baby. You've been doing it here with your bow downs and poster sized picture posts. Not me.
You see me doing that?

Suckle on that Kawhi teet and post again with some giant picture of him and you just suckling away on him.
Don't be uncomfortable with yourself, you little bitch.

dabom
03-08-2015, 05:55 PM
Slurp it baby. You've been doing it here with your bow downs and poster sized picture posts. Not me.
You see me doing that?

Suckle on that Kawhi teet and post again with some giant picture of him and you just suckling away on him.
Don't be uncomfortable with yourself, you little bitch.

You upset about a regular pic of kawhi with some worthy* emojis?
Something wrong with you. :lmao

K...
03-08-2015, 05:56 PM
But Dabom, this qualifies as a meltdown. You started this thread to counter haters, then you spend 2 hours defending Harlem's stats that you barely understand, then you end it, blaring on about alts. This is bad man, you lost this thread. Kawhi is playing great,but your crew came with the bads.