View Full Version : Amateur: Bol Bol. Son of Manute.
Fabbs
03-04-2015, 10:47 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/23/sports/bol-bol-6-foot-10-son-of-manute-adjusts-to-high-school-basketball.html?WT.mc_id=2015-MAR-OUTBRAIN-VIEWED_AUD_DEV-0301-0331&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=AUDDEVMAR&_r=0
Age 15, 6' 10".
You'll want to fix him a sandwich but it looks like his path is the NBA is well underway.
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/02/20/sports/21BOLweb3/21BOLweb3-blog427.jpg
Currently at a Kansas high school.
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/02/20/sports/21BOLweb4/21BOLweb4-articleLarge.jpg
Blake
03-04-2015, 11:17 AM
Currently at a Kansas high school.
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/02/20/sports/21BOLweb4/21BOLweb4-articleLarge.jpg
Which one is Bol
RsxPiimp
03-04-2015, 11:57 AM
100%duncan check out that name:lol
I keep reading about these tall kids who are locks for the NBA but most of them never show up.
Fabbs
03-04-2015, 12:04 PM
I keep reading about these tall kids who are locks for the NBA but most of them never show up.
He'll have such a marketing draw that if he is even close, he'll get picked over other prospects.
He'll have such a marketing draw that if he is even close, he'll get picked over other prospects.
Some enterprising billionaire needs to start up a school for tall kids (really tall) where they teach NBA level basketball, not AAU bullshit or Youtube fodder videos of 7' beanpoles dunking on little white kids. Get these guys all together, teach them footwork and conditioning, FT shooting, defense. That might get the NBA back on track eventually.
Blake
03-04-2015, 12:12 PM
Life must completely suck for a 7 footer that isn't rich.
Always ducking door way entrances, having to find clothes/shoes that fit, never knowing what it's like to drive a smart car
Dancelot
03-04-2015, 03:18 PM
Which one is Bol
the one to the far left.
lefty
03-04-2015, 06:48 PM
Currently at a Kansas high school.
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/02/20/sports/21BOLweb4/21BOLweb4-articleLarge.jpg
lol are those white dudes are the reason Chamberlain dropped 100 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7zFm3JdzZE
bulakenyo
05-01-2016, 09:47 PM
In the Philippines, his name means "pubic hair".
Chris
07-22-2020, 05:20 PM
https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1286025378192973824?s=19
baseline bum
07-22-2020, 05:26 PM
https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1286025378192973824?s=19
Dribble when judging by that video
Chris
07-22-2020, 06:51 PM
Dribble when judging by that video
better than Porker
lefty
07-22-2020, 07:19 PM
better than Porker
Ed Helicopter Jones
07-23-2020, 10:18 AM
I kind of hope he kicks ass in the NBA. It was tough watching him in the green room drop to #44 when he was a projected lottery pick.
hater
07-23-2020, 01:50 PM
Wasnt Manute some kind of african warrior?
He looked goofy as shit but I believe nobody would ever fuck with him as he woulda had that person and his entire family for casserole
Dirks_Finale
07-23-2020, 03:34 PM
Manute bombing away before big men doing that was a thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxSZmnAT5I
phxspurfan
07-23-2020, 04:51 PM
Manute bombing away before big men doing that was a thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxSZmnAT5I
Wow, that's some range for the 90s
Spurtacular
07-23-2020, 09:47 PM
Good potential to be a college star.
Pros is up in the air.
If he tries to bypass college that'll be the end of him.
Spurtacular
07-23-2020, 09:48 PM
Which one is Bol
The tall black one who'll be your Bol in three years if not sooner.
DAF86
07-23-2020, 11:32 PM
Good potential to be a college star.
Pros is up in the air.
If he tries to bypass college that'll be the end of him.
Why? In which way would wasting 2-3-4 years in college would help him develop better than getting reps with an NBA team during that time-span? I never understood this logic by US sports fans. It's not like US colleges help players much with their fundamentals anyways. 90% of the players coming out of college need to learn basic shit like shooting, passing, dribbling and footwork once they are already in the NBA.
Spurtacular
07-24-2020, 02:50 AM
Why? In which way would wasting 2-3-4 years in college would help him develop better than getting reps with an NBA team during that time-span? I never understood this logic by US sports fans. It's not like US colleges help players much with their fundamentals anyways. 90% of the players coming out of college need to learn basic shit like shooting, passing, dribbling and footwork once they are already in the NBA.
Happens all the time. These non NBA ready players try to take shortcuts and they're out of the league in two years or less. Basketball is a discipline like anything else. He has to go through his paces. This is especially true of persons who are not physically strong like him.
Dirks_Finale
07-24-2020, 07:26 AM
I know right? The reaction by Barkey on the final shot is priceless. :lol
Wow, that's some range for the 90s
DAF86
07-24-2020, 12:13 PM
Happens all the time. These non NBA ready players try to take shortcuts and they're out of the league in two years or less. Basketball is a discipline like anything else. He has to go through his paces. This is especially true of persons who are not physically strong like him.
Like whom? For every player that is out of the league by year 2 (if it ever happened) I can name you 5 others that had a good long career, including many superstars.
On average there are a lot more lottery picks flops coming out of college than straight out of high school.
If the guy flopped in the NBA it isn't because he skipped college, it is because he wasn't all that good to begin with.
Spurtacular
07-24-2020, 01:17 PM
Like whom? For every player that is out of the league by year 2 (if it ever happened) I can name you 5 others that had a good long career, including many superstars.
On average there are a lot more lottery picks flops coming out of college than straight out of high school.
If the guy flopped in the NBA it isn't because he skipped college, it is because he wasn't all that good to begin with.
You're painfully unaware of the numbers of players making it / not making.
The G League has probably extended players chances a bit. But it's a good number who are written off rather quickly.
And nobody will tell you they want to play in the abyss of the G League for too long. College is at least an enriching experience.
DAF86
07-24-2020, 01:39 PM
You're painfully unaware of the numbers of players making it / not making.
The G League has probably extended players chances a bit. But it's a good number who are written off rather quickly.
And nobody will tell you they want to play in the abyss of the G League for too long. College is at least an enriching experience.
No, I'm not. Out of 45 high school players to have been drafted by NBA teams, only 4 played 2 or less seasons in the NBA, with 2 others that never made it to the NBA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_high_school_draftees#:~:text=There%20have%20be en%2045%20high,2002%20draftee%20Amar'e%20Stoudemir e.
That's a pretty good ratio if you ask me. A hell of a lot better than college players, tbh.
Spurtacular
07-24-2020, 01:46 PM
No, I'm not. Out of 45 high school players to have been drafted by NBA teams, only 4 played 2 or less seasons in the NBA, with 2 others that never made it to the NBA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_high_school_draftees#:~:text=There%20have%20be en%2045%20high,2002%20draftee%20Amar'e%20Stoudemir e.
That's a pretty good ratio if you ask me. A hell of a lot better than college players, tbh.
That's back when it was only the blue chip talents going high school to NBA.
I'm talking about your average shmucks doing a year of college and then declaring.
DAF86
07-24-2020, 02:06 PM
That's back when it was only the blue chip talents going high school to NBA.
I'm talking about your average shmucks doing a year of college and then declaring.
But that's not skipping college. :lol
If a guy is talented and strong willed enough to make it professionally, he's better off becoming a pro as soon as possible, instead of wasting years in college.
There isn't a single place in Earth, except for the US, where players are forced to go to college when they are good enough to become pros. It just makes no sense at all. Messi was already one of the greatest players on Earth by age 18. Do you imagine him having to waste 3 or 4 years in college before turning pro? It would have cost him millions of dollars and tons of accomplishments.
Spurtacular
07-24-2020, 02:12 PM
But that's not skipping college. :lol
If a guy is talented and strong willed enough to make it professionally, he's better off becoming a pro as soon as possible, instead of wasting years in college.
There isn't a single place in Earth, except for the US, where players are forced to go to college when they are good enough to become pros. It just makes no sense at all. Messi was already one of the greatest players on Earth by age 18. Do you imagine him having to waste 3 or 4 years in college before turning pro? It would have cost him millions of dollars and tons of accomplishments.
I meant effectively skipping college or skipping college by "training".
These one-and-dones are busts more than not if they're nothing special. They're weak by NBA standards and they lose confidence and head downhill fast.
There's a big difference between experience 21 and 22 year-old in the right body and some dumb ass 19 year-old. It's just the way of the world, bro.
It would cost him money to wait if he was something special. It'll cost him everything by jumping too soon and failing. Cos let's face it; these guys don't invest their first contract earnings wisely (if they even get on one and aren't cut first).
DAF86
07-24-2020, 02:25 PM
I meant effectively skipping college or skipping college by "training".
These one-and-dones are busts more than not if they're nothing special. They're weak by NBA standards and they lose confidence and head downhill fast.
There's a big difference between experience 21 and 22 year-old in the right body and some dumb ass 19 year-old. It's just the way of the world, bro.
It would cost him money to wait if he was something special. It'll cost him everything by jumping too soon and failing. Cos let's face it; these guys don't invest their first contract earnings wisely (if they even get on one and aren't cut first).
If they're nothing special, they aren't going to do anything special whether they go to college or not. There isn't a single thing earned by going to college instead of turning pro.
-Training is better at the NBA level than at the college level.
-You accelerate your development by training with faster, stronger, smarter guys.
-You gain experience earlier.
-And last but not least, you make money.
If you go to the NBA at age 18 and you flop, chances are you would have flopped either way, college or not. This way at least you got a contract.
The problem with the college system in the US is that it has become a businesses. That's why you can't have all the best players skipping college 'cause the product would suck (more than it already does. Seriously, I don't understand the appeal of college basketball). It is a disgusting business where old rich people exploit talented young kids.
Spurtacular
07-24-2020, 02:35 PM
If they're nothing special, they aren't going to do anything special whether they go to college or not.
No, they're gonna learn the discipline of basketball and be prepared to contribute in a practical way. They may be "nothing special" in that they're role players or specialist or end-of-the-bench players. But they'll be set contributors for years. They'll be past their illusions of grandeur and take a realistic approach to the game.
DAF86
07-24-2020, 02:38 PM
No, they're gonna learn the discipline of basketball and be prepared to contribute in a practical way. They may be "nothing special" in that they're role players or specialist or end-of-the-bench players. But they'll be set contributors for years. They'll be past their illusions of grandeur and take a realistic approach to the game.
They can learn that much better at the professional level.
Spurtacular
07-24-2020, 02:39 PM
If you go to the NBA at age 18 and you flop, chances are you would have flopped either way, college or not.
You have no idea the difference between a raw dumb ass 19-year-old in a weak body and 21-22 year-old in a built body and with experience.
Your head is way up your ass on this one.
......
Sure, there are maybe a some who will potentially benefit financially from being one and dones. And that number may even be growing as the NBA gets weaker and weaker (less physical); but they're the exception, not the rule.
DAF86
07-24-2020, 02:56 PM
You have no idea the difference between a raw dumb ass 19-year-old in a weak body and 21-22 year-old in a built body and with experience.
Yeah, so?
The guy will spend a couple of years as a bench warmer, going from the first team to the G-league. He will still develop a lot better and faster than by kicking future wall-mart employees ass in college.
If a guy gets to the NBA at age 18, and has what it takes, by age 20 he's already ready to go, having already done his period of NBA transition. A guy that wasted 2 years in college, still has to go through that adapting stage at age 20. It's a monumental waste of time and lifespan.
Spurtacular
07-24-2020, 03:26 PM
Yeah, so?
The guy will spend a couple of years as a bench warmer, going from the first team to the G-league. He will still develop a lot better and faster than by kicking future wall-mart employees ass in college.
If a guy gets to the NBA at age 18, and has what it takes, by age 20 he's already ready to go, having already done his period of NBA transition. A guy that wasted 2 years in college, still has to go through that adapting stage at age 20. It's a monumental waste of time and lifespan.
A good number of these players you talk about are establishing a limited ceiling that GMs often don't have the want for. They'll want to use a bench spot for someone with much higher potential upside.
Don't get me wrong; some players will start rough and grind it out. But they're often few and far between. A young player who comes in struggling and loses his confidence is rarely making it to that second contract.
It's called setting yourself up for success. Have that foundation. The only real risk for these non superstars is increased exposure to injury before the NBA.
Chris
07-26-2020, 12:20 AM
tifkUMz92B8
Nuggets looking stacked tbh
ElNono
07-26-2020, 03:33 AM
Manute bombing away before big men doing that was a thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxSZmnAT5I
Better than Chef, tbh
MarCowMar
07-29-2020, 11:50 PM
I'm not sure how it'll translate in real games but Bol looks real comfortable out there. Dribbling, passing, shooting, whatever. It'd be fun to see a big man make it in this league.
baseline bum
07-30-2020, 12:54 AM
tifkUMz92B8
Nuggets looking stacked tbh
Hope he makes it. Damn I didn't realize Denver never even gave him an NBA contract. Guy with upside like that I would have signed for a couple of years at minimum salary, maybe even three years depending on what the salary cap rules are like now in case he blows up in that time so they wouldn't be in a Golden State - Gibert Arenas situation.
Chris
07-30-2020, 01:12 AM
Hope he makes it. Damn I didn't realize Denver never even gave him an NBA contract. Guy with upside like that I would have signed for a couple of years at minimum salary, maybe even three years depending on what the salary cap rules are like now in case he blows up in that time so they wouldn't be in a Golden State - Gibert Arenas situation.
I agree, lock him in longterm and give Manute the keys to the gym. So much potential/upside especially when the league wants to go big like Milwaukee and Giannis.
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