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N0 LyF3 ScRuB
03-08-2015, 01:44 PM
:lol suck a dick haters

Sigz
03-08-2015, 01:46 PM
Porker.

NASpurs
03-08-2015, 01:48 PM
Aaron Brooks didn't know what hit him :tu

TXstbobcat
03-08-2015, 01:50 PM
Parker!!!!!:flag:

Tony Porker
03-08-2015, 01:54 PM
Boris promised to share some Tacos with me if I scored double digits in one quarter.

K...
03-08-2015, 02:07 PM
Boris promised to share some Tacos with me if I scored double digits in one quarter.

Your joke is so 2 weeks ago.

Chinook
03-08-2015, 02:08 PM
Love him increasing that trade value.

K...
03-08-2015, 02:17 PM
Love him increasing that trade value.

That very tradeable, but franchise crippling contract?

ElNono
03-08-2015, 02:17 PM
He looked amazing, tbh... and he's looked much, much better the last 2-3 games...

If not for Hubie incessantly rooting for the Bulls, it would've been thoroughly enjoyable

TheGreatYacht
03-08-2015, 02:18 PM
:lol suck a dick haters
My nigga... :tu

Spurs9
03-08-2015, 02:18 PM
The team is completely different when Parker is on.
:lol people saying Parker isn't necessary for the team a few weeks ago

EVAY
03-08-2015, 02:20 PM
The team is completely different when Parker is on.
:lol people saying Parker isn't necessary for the team a few weeks ago

The Parker Haters were actually saying that we were BETTER without him.

Malik Hairston
03-08-2015, 02:23 PM
The team is completely different when Parker is on.
:lol people saying Parker isn't necessary for the team a few weeks ago

They beat Phoenix by 40 when Parker had an atrocious game..the rest of the games have been against terrible teams..

Nice to see Tony playing well, but he's done it against 2 of the worst defensive teams in the league + a really mediocre Bulls team(missing 2 of their 3 best defensive players)..he's still the same player that had one of the worst playoff runs in championship history last year.

Diego20
03-08-2015, 02:24 PM
The team is completely different when Parker is on.
:lol people saying Parker isn't necessary for the team a few weeks ago

:lmao

We are a better team with TD on fire, a better team with Manu on fire, a better team with Kawhi on fire, etc with all Spurs player. Not only with TP :lmao

Enrique tards in a nutshell

ChumpDumper
03-08-2015, 02:26 PM
:lmao

We are a better team with TD on fire, a better team with Manu on fire, a better team with Kawhi on fire, etc with all Spurs player. Not only with TP :lmao

Enrique tards in a nutshelllol another mad hater

ChumpDumper
03-08-2015, 02:28 PM
http://www.hrmorning.com/wp-content/uploads/leave-of-absence-request.jpg

UZER
03-08-2015, 02:28 PM
Pop put an end to that. A klay Thompson type qtr would never happen under him.

Diego20
03-08-2015, 02:29 PM
lol another mad hater

I'm right though, you can't say "we're a different team with TP on fire" hahah :lmao

ChumpDumper
03-08-2015, 02:29 PM
I'm right though, you can't say "we're a different team with TP on fire" hahah :lmaoOf course you can.

K...
03-08-2015, 02:30 PM
:lmao

We are a better team with TD on fire, a better team with Manu on fire, a better team with Kawhi on fire, etc with all Spurs player. Not only with TP :lmao

Enrique tards in a nutshell

exactly, but people were acting like KAwhi alone could replace the big 3. Theres nothing wrong to say that Tony parker will suck in some matchups. There is nothing wrong with expecting Kawhi to play his game. But any game PArker can take over and make life easier for guys like Duncan (no show) Kawhi (played his game, didn't have to force it), is good.


Stop moving the goalposts. Winning against shitty teams is winning. Having a multiple talented offense is a championship prerequisite.

Malik Hairston
03-08-2015, 02:32 PM
2014 Parker was one of 5 starting PGs in the history of the NBA to have a negative +/- number on a title team, along with 2003 Parker, 2005 Parker, 2009 Derek Fisher and somebody else I forgot..

Leetonidas
03-08-2015, 02:33 PM
They beat Phoenix by 40 when Parker had an atrocious game..the rest of the games have been against terrible teams..

Nice to see Tony playing well, but he's done it against 2 of the worst defensive teams in the league + a really mediocre Bulls team(missing 2 of their 3 best defensive players)..he's still the same player that had one of the worst playoff runs in championship history last year.

:lol don't act like Phoenix after trading Dragic and Thomas are as decent as they were before. Current Bulls > current Suns

ChumpDumper
03-08-2015, 02:33 PM
2014 Parker was one of 5 starting PGs in the history of the NBA to have a negative +/- number on a title team, along with 2003 Parker, 2005 Parker, 2009 Derek Fisher and somebody else I forgot..Spurs won.

Tony played well.

I'm sorry.

tholdren
03-08-2015, 02:34 PM
They beat Phoenix by 40 when Parker had an atrocious game..the rest of the games have been against terrible teams..

Nice to see Tony playing well, but he's done it against 2 of the worst defensive teams in the league + a really mediocre Bulls team(missing 2 of their 3 best defensive players)..he's still the same player that had one of the worst playoff runs in championship history last year.


Doesnt matter what teams you do it to. Confidence is a crazy thing to bottle up and contain. Unfortunately 90% of fans do not understand how important the mental aspect of the game is.

Hoops Czar
03-08-2015, 02:34 PM
Will Tony Parker ever score 30 points in a single game again?

Question answered!

K...
03-08-2015, 02:36 PM
.he's still the same player that had one of the worst playoff runs in championship history last year.

For someone who cares about stats its rather sad to hang your hat on this argument, Love the 20 game sample size, very career defining. Very astute to point out that defenses can shut down a point guard if they choose.

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 02:36 PM
One of the worst playoff runs? Oh, the one where he led the Spurs in scoring and assists on 49% shooting throughout the playoffs?

K...
03-08-2015, 02:36 PM
Will Tony Parker ever score 30 points in a single game again?

Question answered!

oh, that was parker,,i thought we traded for westbrook.

Leetonidas
03-08-2015, 02:37 PM
He led the Spurs in scoring in the Finals too tbh...

Clipper Nation
03-08-2015, 02:38 PM
:lol Enriquesuckers celebrating one regular-season game like Game 7 of the Finals
:lol Alphabrook against the Bulls > Enrique against the Bulls

MultiTroll
03-08-2015, 02:42 PM
Was loving his team play.
Interview afterwords, Parkers scoffing at the notion that some of his slump could have been mental. Not good.
If his slump was all injury, like Parker would like us to believe, he shouldn't have been playing.
Not buying.
I think he is still full of himself and needs to be monitored by Pop 2014 Championship version.
Great game today tho.

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 02:43 PM
:lol Enriquesuckers celebrating one regular-season game like Game 7 of the Finals
:lol Alphabrook against the Bulls > Enrique against the Bulls
Hahahaha, a 14/32 loss is better than a 13/19 win?

TheGreatYacht
03-08-2015, 02:44 PM
Hahahaha, a 14/32 loss is better than a 13/19 win?
:lmao he watches Chris Paul a lot. He's just used to stat padding and losing

Malik Hairston
03-08-2015, 02:50 PM
One of the worst playoff runs? Oh, the one where he led the Spurs in scoring and assists on 49% shooting throughout the playoffs?

The one where he was one of the only starters to ever win a title while having a negative +/-..:lol raw numbers in 2015

Malik Hairston
03-08-2015, 02:52 PM
:lol don't act like Phoenix after trading Dragic and Thomas are as decent as they were before. Current Bulls > current Suns

The Bulls without Rose, Butler and Gibson are a below average team, at best..they're probably worse than those Suns considering the Suns were @ home vs. the Spurs..

ducks
03-08-2015, 02:54 PM
It helps the Spurs confidence

Before Spurs were struggling to beat below average teams

Perry Mason
03-08-2015, 02:56 PM
The one where he was one of the only starters to ever win a title while having a negative +/-..:lol raw numbers in 2015

Just stop posting this lie over, and over, again.

I posted this earlier in the year, it remains pertinent:

"Parker did not have negative on/off metrics in the 2014 playoffs. Of the 23 playoff games, Parker had negative on/off numbers in 8 of them. Please don't be a tool and listen to tools, but refer to actual game-by-game stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2014/ (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01/gamelog/2014/)

These stats will show what informed posters have been saying for a while. Parker's issue has been consistency.

Parker as well had some excellent games in the 2014 playoffs, and there is no title without him. He was +32 in Game 2 against OKC. He was +20 in pivotal Game 5 against Dallas.

Except for Game 6 OKC, the Spurs lost every game in which TP9 had negative on/off numbers. So if that isn't perfect evidence the Spurs need a healthy TP, then then nothing is.

There is no question in my mind that Tony's inconsistency is health related. It is an open question as to whether he can regain his former speed (or get close enough). But to the doubters, remember how Manu looked with all his maladies and injuries since 2009. We thought he was completely done in 2013, and yet he had a strong 2014 and an amazing Finals and Semi-Finals."

Malik Hairston
03-08-2015, 03:00 PM
Just stop posting this lie over, and over, again.

I posted this earlier in the year, it remains pertinent:

"Parker did not have negative on/off metrics in the 2014 playoffs. Of the 23 playoff games, Parker had negative on/off numbers in 8 of them. Please don't be a tool and listen to tools, but refer to actual game-by-game stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2014/ (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01/gamelog/2014/)

These stats will show what informed posters have been saying for a while. Parker's issue has been consistency.

Parker as well had some excellent games in the 2014 playoffs, and there is no title without him. He was +32 in Game 2 against OKC. He was +20 in pivotal Game 5 against Dallas.

Except for Game 6 OKC, the Spurs lost every game in which TP9 had negative on/off numbers. So if that isn't perfect evidence the Spurs need a healthy TP, then then nothing is.

There is no question in my mind that Tony's inconsistency is health related. It is an open question as to whether he can regain his former speed (or get close enough). But to the doubters, remember how Manu looked with all his maladies and injuries since 2009. We thought he was completely done in 2013, and yet he had a strong 2014 and an amazing Finals and Semi-Finals."

:lmao game-by-game stats

He was one of the only starters in league history to win a title with a negative BPM..literally, one of 5 starting PGs in the history of the league..

Why was Parker the only Spur that suffered in that regard?

apalisoc_9
03-08-2015, 03:03 PM
damn game by game stats..

Wow what an all time low..That or the guy have no idea how to use stats..

EVAY
03-08-2015, 03:05 PM
Honestly incredible to see the excuses and the 'but, but, but' lines that Parker haters come up with when he has a good game. They cannot help themselves; their hatred is so intense they would rather watch the team they SAY they root for lose or struggle than acknowledge that the teams' point guard had a great game.

When you piss on a player after the kind of performance that TP had today, you really are the definition of a shit excuse for a fan.

BillMc
03-08-2015, 03:06 PM
Honestly incredible to see the excuses and the 'but, but, but' lines that Parker haters come up with when he has a good game. They cannot help themselves; their hatred is so intense they would rather watch the team they SAY they root for lose or struggle than acknowledge that the teams' point guard had a great game.

When you piss on a player after the kind of performance that TP had today, you really are the definition of a shit excuse for a fan.

+1

Perry Mason
03-08-2015, 03:09 PM
:lmao game-by-game stats

He was one of the only starters in league history to win a title with a negative BPM..literally, one of 5 starting PGs in the history of the league..

Why was Parker the only Spur that suffered in that regard?

You literally rely on math you do not understand. You are the poster-boy for today's ignorant. BPM, already a stat that makes presumptions that are impossible to test (and therefore unknowable), is useless for a small sample size.

Malik Hairston
03-08-2015, 03:12 PM
You literally rely on math you do not understand. You are the poster-boy for today's ignorant. BPM, already a stat that makes presumptions that are impossible to test (and therefore unknowable), is useless for a small sample size.

Ignoring your stupidity and bias, just answer this question..why were the numbers biased against Parker, and not every other player in the history of the league? Why was Parker the only Spurs player that was affected by the flawed formula? :lmao..

:lmao mathematical formulas are only biased against Tony Parker now
:lmao literally every advanced metric has Parker as a below average player in last year's playoffs
:lmao Parker is the only player in the history of the league that is hated by numbers, apparently

Of all the shitty posters on SpursTalk, I have never seen one use as many cliches as you, without being able to defend his point to any extent, tbh..

Darius McCrary
03-08-2015, 03:14 PM
Harlem is a dude from Canada who pussed out and ran away like a little bitch when timvp threatened to post his picture.

He is a total douche idiot. Parker was vital to the finals, he just sees numbers and gets excited

hater
03-08-2015, 03:15 PM
Head of the snake

Malik Hairston
03-08-2015, 03:16 PM
Harlem is a dude from Canada who pussed out and ran away like a little bitch when timvp threatened to post his picture.

He is a total douche idiot. Parker was vital to the finals, he just sees numbers and gets excited

:lmao how would timvp have gotten my picture, you moron?

K...
03-08-2015, 03:20 PM
I guess being the worst player on an all time historical great team is going to screw up Tony's hall of fame chance. Once again, nobody can read stats like Harlem.

Being a happy casual fan is sooooooo embarrasing, I really need to try harder to be keyboard warrior who thinks up clever ways to pick and choose stats

apalisoc_9
03-08-2015, 03:23 PM
Man some of the takes here by Perry mason and other rique fanboys are TIMVP " grizzlies would sweep the spurs l" level

Silver&Black
03-08-2015, 03:27 PM
Malik....Apa....

Just say, "TP played a great game today". It's really not that hard to do....is it?

Tony Porker
03-08-2015, 03:28 PM
Yeah I wasn't really seeing how the Spurs had a chance without him. There's certain intangibles that he brings when he's at his best that stats don't really show. Plus I trust Pop to know how to run his team. In Pop I trust.

TheGreatYacht
03-08-2015, 03:32 PM
Harlem is a dude from Canada who pussed out and ran away like a little bitch when timvp threatened to post his picture.

He is a total douche idiot. Parker was vital to the finals, he just sees numbers and gets excited
:lmao

TheGreatYacht
03-08-2015, 03:32 PM
Honestly incredible to see the excuses and the 'but, but, but' lines that Parker haters come up with when he has a good game. They cannot help themselves; their hatred is so intense they would rather watch the team they SAY they root for lose or struggle than acknowledge that the teams' point guard had a great game.

When you piss on a player after the kind of performance that TP had today, you really are the definition of a shit excuse for a fan.

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 03:41 PM
Just stop posting this lie over, and over, again.

I posted this earlier in the year, it remains pertinent:

"Parker did not have negative on/off metrics in the 2014 playoffs. Of the 23 playoff games, Parker had negative on/off numbers in 8 of them. Please don't be a tool and listen to tools, but refer to actual game-by-game stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2014/ (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01/gamelog/2014/)

These stats will show what informed posters have been saying for a while. Parker's issue has been consistency.

Parker as well had some excellent games in the 2014 playoffs, and there is no title without him. He was +32 in Game 2 against OKC. He was +20 in pivotal Game 5 against Dallas.

Except for Game 6 OKC, the Spurs lost every game in which TP9 had negative on/off numbers. So if that isn't perfect evidence the Spurs need a healthy TP, then then nothing is.

There is no question in my mind that Tony's inconsistency is health related. It is an open question as to whether he can regain his former speed (or get close enough). But to the doubters, remember how Manu looked with all his maladies and injuries since 2009. We thought he was completely done in 2013, and yet he had a strong 2014 and an amazing Finals and Semi-Finals."
This guy leans heavily on BPM...here are the Spurs playoff leaders for the last 4 seasons in that stat:
2014 - Tiago Splitter
2013 - Dejuan Blair
2012 - Boris Diaw
2011 - Danny Green

DMC
03-08-2015, 03:53 PM
:lol Enriquesuckers celebrating one regular-season game like Game 7 of the Finals
:lol Alphabrook against the Bulls > Enrique against the Bulls

You have no room here faggot, worry about your own team who cannot seem to get over the hump of that daunting 2nd round.

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 03:56 PM
Damn- Apa and Harlem have been like

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2012/08/02/TOTAL-RECALL-KUATO.jpg

For a hot minute. It's honestly getting weird if they aren't alts.

Malik Hairston
03-08-2015, 04:04 PM
This guy leans heavily on BPM...here are the Spurs playoff leaders for the last 4 seasons in that stat:
2014 - Tiago Splitter
2013 - Dejuan Blair
2012 - Boris Diaw
2011 - Danny Green

Um, you're ignoring minutes played, and more importantly, I don't lean heavily on anything:lol..Parker's advanced metrics were all terrible in the playoffs, he ranked last or 2nd last in virtually every number among Spurs rotation players..

When I'm looking at these numbers, I'm not looking at them individually, nor am I looking at the individual leader, etc..I'm looking for notable numbers that stand out among everything, and Parker's BPM number stands out because it's behind the rest of the team by an astronomical amount, and it's historically bad for a player on a championship team..

K...
03-08-2015, 04:34 PM
outstanding challenges to HArlem by K...

Who would be better for the spurs system from the years 2008 to 2013?
What does the existing data tell you about Parker in the 2015 playoffs?

Take your time...

Cry Havoc
03-08-2015, 05:21 PM
Malik....Apa....

Just say, "TP played a great game today". It's really not that hard to do....is it?

It is if you're not a spurs fan.

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:29 PM
This guy leans heavily on BPM...here are the Spurs playoff leaders for the last 4 seasons in that stat:
2014 - Tiago Splitter
2013 - Dejuan Blair
2012 - Boris Diaw
2011 - Danny Green
Wow. I'm losing respect for this guy post by post.
I held him pretty high too- on this board.
Not generally. I have to keep the standards pretty damn low for this place.
I even have to dumb myself down.

Ya'll understand...

look_at_g_shred
03-08-2015, 05:34 PM
Honestly incredible to see the excuses and the 'but, but, but' lines that Parker haters come up with when he has a good game. They cannot help themselves; their hatred is so intense they would rather watch the team they SAY they root for lose or struggle than acknowledge that the teams' point guard had a great game.

When you piss on a player after the kind of performance that TP had today, you really are the definition of a shit excuse for a fan. post of the year tbh

Cry Havoc
03-08-2015, 05:36 PM
This guy leans heavily on BPM...here are the Spurs playoff leaders for the last 4 seasons in that stat:
2014 - Tiago Splitter
2013 - Dejuan Blair
2012 - Boris Diaw
2011 - Danny Green

:lmao Blair

Silver&Black
03-08-2015, 05:45 PM
Honestly incredible to see the excuses and the 'but, but, but' lines that Parker haters come up with when he has a good game. They cannot help themselves; their hatred is so intense they would rather watch the team they SAY they root for lose or struggle than acknowledge that the teams' point guard had a great game.

When you piss on a player after the kind of performance that TP had today, you really are the definition of a shit excuse for a fan.

Two thumbs up....

:tu :tu

Silver&Black
03-08-2015, 05:48 PM
It is if you're not a spurs fan.

True Dat....

SASdynasty!
03-08-2015, 05:53 PM
Wow. I'm losing respect for this guy post by post.
I held him pretty high too- on this board.
Not generally. I have to keep the standards pretty damn low for this place.
I even have to dumb myself down.

Ya'll understand...
Here's all I'm saying...Malik is making it sound like Parker had a negative +/- in the playoffs in 2014. Of course that's not true...he was +133 overall and +41 in the Finals. I think there are some people who actually think that the Spurs didn't build leads with Parker on the floor. We all get that our bench tended to outscore the other team's bench by more...so when you're Parker and are in rotation with Monta, Lilliard, Westbrook, and Lebron, the adjusted stat can be skewed. But Malik makes it sounds like the Spurs started losing the game when Parker was on the floor overall, which was obviously not the case in the playoffs or the Finals.

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 05:56 PM
Here's all I'm saying...Malik is making it sound like Parker had a negative +/- in the playoffs in 2014. Of course that's not true...he was +133 overall and +41 in the Finals. I think there are some people who actually think that the Spurs didn't build leads with Parker on the floor. We all get that our bench tended to outscore the other team's bench by more...so when you're Parker and are in rotation with Monta, Lilliard, Westbrook, and Lebron, the adjusted stat can be skewed. But Malik makes it sounds like the Spurs started losing the game when Parker was on the floor overall, which was obviously not the case in the playoffs or the Finals.

Harlem is nothing more than a button pusher who hides behind easily manipulated context when it comes to numbers.
It's sad to say he's a top poster here, but he is.

Chinook
03-08-2015, 05:59 PM
I will say that a ton of folks don't know the first thing about these stats. That goes both for those who regurgitate bad stats and for those who throw out unsubstantiated criticisms of those stats.

Diego20
03-08-2015, 07:06 PM
Malik....Apa....

Just say, "TP played a great game today". It's really not that hard to do....is it?

You should say "TP has been sucking the entire season, he's overpaid"

It's really not that hard to do, is it?

Silver&Black
03-08-2015, 07:07 PM
You should say "TP has been sucking the entire season, he's overpaid"

It's really not that hard to do, is it?

I have....countless times. Try again faggot.

Diego20
03-08-2015, 07:11 PM
I have....countless times. Try again faggot.

:lmao

The only one that admitted he's been sucking is Brazil.

Silver&Black
03-08-2015, 07:21 PM
:lmao

The only one that admitted he's been sucking is Brazil.

Well I guess there are two now...

And I don't think you (or anybody else) read every single post. Plenty of "Enrique fanboys" will admit that Parker has had an awful year....not just me and Brazil.

I don't give a damn who scores the most points...whether it be Kawhi, TP, Manu, Verde, Timmy, MVPatty...as long as THE SPURS get the "W"...fine with me.

:lmao Player fans

Pauleta14
03-08-2015, 08:58 PM
Honestly incredible to see the excuses and the 'but, but, but' lines that Parker haters come up with when he has a good game. They cannot help themselves; their hatred is so intense they would rather watch the team they SAY they root for lose or struggle than acknowledge that the teams' point guard had a great game.

When you piss on a player after the kind of performance that TP had today, you really are the definition of a shit excuse for a fan.

Pauleta14
03-08-2015, 09:02 PM
Well I guess there are two now...

Plenty of "Enrique fanboys" will admit that Parker has had an awful year....not just me and Brazil.



What about getting rid of this stupid name?

I'm amazed how almost everybody use it, it's like admitting the trolls took over ST... :lol

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 09:05 PM
What about getting rid of this stupid name?

I'm amazed how almost everybody use it, it's like admitting the trolls took over ST... :lol
It happened.
Don't pretend.
They run the circus. This is like LA during the riots, Greece a year ago, just flow with the anarchy.
Lose yourself.

It's kind of fun here in the land of the lawless.

Keepin' it real
03-08-2015, 10:25 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. I was able to add 5 more morons to my ignore list.

look_at_g_shred
03-08-2015, 10:27 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. I was able to add 5 more morons to my ignore list.
lol

Plum Island
03-08-2015, 10:29 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. I was able to add 5 more morons to my ignore list.
Keep it real...

MateoNeygro
03-09-2015, 07:35 AM
It happened.
Don't pretend.
They run the circus. This is like LA during the riots, Greece a year ago, just flow with the anarchy.
Lose yourself.

It's kind of fun here in the land of the lawless.

Lol

DMC
03-09-2015, 08:15 AM
I will say that a ton of folks don't know the first thing about these stats. That goes both for those who regurgitate bad stats and for those who throw out unsubstantiated criticisms of those stats.
I'd be interested in reading your take on a PG that has high assists on a team that doesn't average a lot of assists per game. Does it mean the PG is a great ball distributor?

MateoNeygro
03-09-2015, 08:16 AM
So good to see the old Tony. Looks like he may be rounding into form. Time will tell...

hater
03-09-2015, 09:18 AM
MVparker is back and in good timing too :tu

Chinook
03-09-2015, 11:55 AM
I'd be interested in reading your take on a PG that has high assists on a team that doesn't average a lot of assists per game. Does it mean the PG is a great ball distributor?

Depends on both the skills of the individual players around the PG and the positions the players are in when they get the ball. It's possible for the guy to be Boris Diaw out there with a bunch of ISO guys or non-passers like Green or Bonner.

unleashbaynes
03-09-2015, 12:10 PM
Um, you're ignoring minutes played, and more importantly, I don't lean heavily on anything:lol..Parker's advanced metrics were all terrible in the playoffs, he ranked last or 2nd last in virtually every number among Spurs rotation players..

When I'm looking at these numbers, I'm not looking at them individually, nor am I looking at the individual leader, etc..I'm looking for notable numbers that stand out among everything, and Parker's BPM number stands out because it's behind the rest of the team by an astronomical amount, and it's historically bad for a player on a championship team..

What specific advanced metrics? Looking at the +/- he played ok in all the games the spurs won. Legit confused here.


also, what is BPM?

ambchang
03-09-2015, 12:16 PM
Um, you're ignoring minutes played, and more importantly, I don't lean heavily on anything:lol..Parker's advanced metrics were all terrible in the playoffs, he ranked last or 2nd last in virtually every number among Spurs rotation players..

When I'm looking at these numbers, I'm not looking at them individually, nor am I looking at the individual leader, etc..I'm looking for notable numbers that stand out among everything, and Parker's BPM number stands out because it's behind the rest of the team by an astronomical amount, and it's historically bad for a player on a championship team..

BPM is per 100 possessions. Do you really know how BPM works and what it stands for?

Mr Bones
03-09-2015, 12:21 PM
2014 Parker was .... starting PG..... on a title team .... I forgot..

Good point.

Malik Hairston
03-09-2015, 06:11 PM
BPM is per 100 possessions. Do you really know how BPM works and what it stands for?

Comparing any advanced metric of a low-minute player to a high-minute player is always going to be flawed when extrapolating, regardless of whether it's measured by 100 possessions, obviously..

Parker's advanced on/off metrics from last year(any one that you choose) are all extremely bad when you compare him to the other Spurs' rotation players that played a similar amount of minutes as him, as well as played in similar 3/4/5-man units as him..it's not like I'm comparing him to Joseph, or even a fringe rotation player(in last year's playoffs) like Belinelli..

Even your beloved WS has him as a mediocre player last year, IIRC..

Malik Hairston
03-09-2015, 06:15 PM
Splitter would have to be on his A-game to beat the Warriors, too..

Duncan was completely exposed in the 2013 series against them IIRC..it wouldn't be any different this time, Curry at the top is a matchup nightmare against any team with slow bigs, especially a big that can't exploit them on the offensive end(which Duncan can't do vs. Bogut)..

Pauleta14
03-09-2015, 08:42 PM
It happened.
Don't pretend.
They run the circus. This is like LA during the riots, Greece a year ago, just flow with the anarchy.
Lose yourself.

It's kind of fun here in the land of the lawless.

I know it happened quite often when he was our only go to guy but calling him that way all the time seems like diminishing what he accomplished...

I don't need to lose myself about it, I personaly don't care, but I find it pathetic that his own fan mock him on a regular basis

And btw I think Manu (who is my fav of the big3) was even more enrique-ish when he was the man...

anyway..

ambchang
03-09-2015, 09:32 PM
Comparing any advanced metric of a low-minute player to a high-minute player is always going to be flawed when extrapolating, regardless of whether it's measured by 100 possessions, obviously..

Parker's advanced on/off metrics from last year(any one that you choose) are all extremely bad when you compare him to the other Spurs' rotation players that played a similar amount of minutes as him, as well as played in similar 3/4/5-man units as him..it's not like I'm comparing him to Joseph, or even a fringe rotation player(in last year's playoffs) like Belinelli..

Even your beloved WS has him as a mediocre player last year, IIRC..

I have no arguments with Parker playing poorly last year, which he obviously did. The problem is your apparent misunderstanding of BPM.

Splitter wasn't a fringe player who played 3 minutes a game. He was a starter for parts of the playoffs and played critical roles in several series. The fact that he was above players like Kawhi and duncan showed how useless a stat BPM is.

Btw, I believe green was #2 on the team in BPM during the playoffs. Green played heavy minutes.

SilverSpur
03-10-2015, 04:47 PM
So goes Paker, so go the Spurs.