It's ok to love kawhi Leonard

[K...]

Guys I didn't think I had to do this because there have been many excellent kawhi threads. But there are some people who feel that celebrating Tony's return from injury (which due to age isn't a sure thing) is an attack on Leonard.

So, here you go. A thread to say that kawhi has become the spurs second best player, key perimeter disruptor, all around great team mate, and generally cool guy.

[SnakeBoy]

Kawhi is a beast and every Spurs fan knows it. So this thread really isn't necessary. Becoming the 2nd best player on the Spurs speaks for itself.

[ElNono]

He turned down somebody's daughter... that's just plain mean, IMO

[TXstbobcat]

Leonard is 2nd in steals per game and is only .05 steals per game behind Curry. Strong possibility that Leonard ends the season #1 in steals per game.

[Sean Cagney]

Love this guy.

[Wildcat67]

Leonard is 2nd in steals per game and is only .05 steals per game behind Curry. Strong possibility that Leonard ends the season #1 in steals per game.

Steals per 36 minutes

Steph Curry 2.3
Kawhi Leonard 2.4

[kobyz]

Great System's Product

[wildchild]

But there are some people who feel that celebrating Tony's return from injury (which due to age isn't a sure thing) is an attack on Leonard.

Some...who?? We're gonna play Who Said What.

Three weeks ago TGY, hater, Hoops, Chump, PingPong, daslicer, DMC, Kool Bob Love, Capt Bringdown, ducks, N0 LyF3 ScRuB, tholdren were saying that Kawhi is just a role player

But who said in the last weeks...

He's not a great player and never will be
1-DMC
2-daslicer
3-Hoops


Kawhi is a good 3rd option... maybe 4th. Is not a max player. He got fame only cause lebronjames is the king of choking
1-N0 LyF3 ScRuB
2-tholdren
3-Chump


Rather Snell than him (similar to the old Harrison Barnes>Kawhi thing)
1-Hoops
2-TYG
3-PingPong

[Aztecfan03]

Some...who?? We're gonna play Who Said What.

Three weeks ago TGY, hater, Hoops, Chump, PingPong, daslicer, DMC, Kool Bob Love, Capt Bringdown, ducks, N0 LyF3 ScRuB, tholdren were saying that Kawhi is just a role player

But who said in the last weeks...

1-DMC
2-daslicer
3-Hoops


1-N0 LyF3 ScRuB
2-tholdren
3-Chump

(similar to the old Harrison Barnes>Kawhi thing)
1-Hoops
2-TYG
3-PingPong

What is your idea of "great player"?

[Clipper Nation]

OP is still a faggot despite his poor attempt to pretend that he doesn't loathe Kawhi.

[look_at_g_shred]

It's great to see him grow as the 2nd best player on the team so fast! I love this guy so much!! Glad he's on our team! Defensive monster!!!

[apalisoc_9]

leads PPG and the best defensive player..

Oh but Tony ..:lmao

big 3 mainstream fans..:lmao

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol apa going emo again

[unleashbaynes]

When people say that Leonard is the Spurs second best player, they aren't referring to Tony. They're referring to Tim.

[unleashbaynes]

Either way, glad to see things never change. You have the Spurs actually playing their best ball of the season, players looking back in form, and all you wanna do is squabble about the same stupid shit. There's plenty of interesting stuff to talk about now, especially with playoffs around the corner. This little battle has been cute but as the playoff picture becomes clearer I'd like to see something with substance. Would be really interested in doing a player pairing analysis but I have no idea how timvp did the charts. Does bkref have a feature that makes it easier?

[dabom]

OP is still a faggot despite his poor attempt to pretend that he doesn't loathe Kawhi.

:lmao

[K...]

leads PPG and the best defensive player..

Oh but Tony ..:lmao

big 3 mainstream fans..:lmao

This is a kawhi thread. I have another one for Parker. I'll explain it again. When kawhi was hurt he came back pretty quick. With Parker, it took far longer to heal and was not a sure thing. Thus Parker playing well is huge relief, while kawhi was more a sure thing.

If I truly thought kawhi wouldn't be back I'd be freaking out. Spurs without kawhi are an old team with a gimmick offense. With kawhi and splitter we have championship defense.

So boo to apo for trying to make this a Parker thread.

[daslicer]

Some...who?? We're gonna play Who Said What.

Three weeks ago TGY, hater, Hoops, Chump, PingPong, daslicer, DMC, Kool Bob Love, Capt Bringdown, ducks, N0 LyF3 ScRuB, tholdren were saying that Kawhi is just a role player

But who said in the last weeks...

1-DMC
2-daslicer
3-Hoops



I'm not a hater of Kawhi I actually hope he does well and I still stand by my words that he's not a great player. I hope Kawhi continues to play well so I can eat some crow because believe it or not I'm a spur fan and not a player fan. Kawhi playing good equals spurs wins.

[ChumpDumper]

Some...who?? We're gonna play Who Said What.

Three weeks ago TGY, hater, Hoops, Chump, PingPong, daslicer, DMC, Kool Bob Love, Capt Bringdown, ducks, N0 LyF3 ScRuB, tholdren were saying that Kawhi is just a role playerLinks to my quotes, please.

[K...]

I'm not a hater of Kawhi I actually hope he does well and I still stand by my words that he's not a great player. I hope Kawhi continues to play well so I can eat some crow because believe it or not I'm a spur fan and not a player fan. Kawhi playing good equals spurs wins.

Only problem is that he's already pretty great. I don't know how you could say otherwise. He just transforms the defense and gives the offense an additional weapon.

If you mean to say kawhi won't be an offensive great, you'd be a pessimist, but maybe he has topped out and will never get better.

If you meant that kawhi will not be an offense first option, that's true; kawhi can't dribble like a guard and his post work is still clunky...he needs a good point guard.

If you think he's the true Jordon heir or even a guaranteed all star, you are delusional.

[K...]

But, the real thing is regardless of your opinions on kawhi, Parker should still be respected as an all time great spurs player.

[tholdren]

When Leonard carries San Antonio to wins and controls the game in crunch time, then he won't be a role player...if he does that consistently he would be a max player.

It's no coincidence that spurs have had great play from PG spot and kl.

And I'm with the other guy. If spurs win I'm cool. But I wouldn't max kl.... yet

[daslicer]

If you meant that kawhi will not be an offense first option, that's true; kawhi can't dribble like a guard and his post work is still clunky...he needs a good point guard.



This is pretty much what i'am implying when I say he's not a great player.

[Silver&Black]

:lol apa going emo again

^
This

:lol He's the first person to bring up TP in this thread

:cry Why does every Kawhi thread turn into a Parker thread :cry

[wildchild]

I'm not a hater of Kawhi I actually hope he does well and I still stand by my words that he's not a great player.

"can't dribble like a guard"
But who many elite SF in the league are really good ballhandlers like a top guard? Two, maybe three?

"his post work is still clunky..."
Disagree, this is the first season he gets two or three plays in the post per game, 23 years old, he still has room to improve...Leonard'll maximize his strengths as post up player.
Shaq never had the entire post arsenal of Hakeem or Tim, but he was a beast and effective scorer.

Obviously Kawhi isn't the unique, most talented player of his generation like Jordan, Lebron, Durant, but he's already a great player.

[apalisoc_9]

"can't dribble like a guard"
But who many elite SF in the league are really good ballhandlers like a top guard? Two, maybe three?

"his post work is still clunky..."
Disagree, this is the first season he gets two or three plays in the post per game, 23 years old, he still has room to improve...Leonard'll maximize his strengths as post up player.
Shaq never had the entire post arsenal of Hakeem or Tim, but he was a beast and effective scorer.

Obviously Kawhi isn't the unique, most talented player of his generation like Jordan, Lebron, Durant, but he's already a great player.

Kawhi is unique...If you ask me how many FMVP he will win..

Not 1, Not 2, not 3..but 4 and more..

Bookmark this page.

[daslicer]

"can't dribble like a guard"
But who many elite SF in the league are really good ballhandlers like a top guard? Two, maybe three?

"his post work is still clunky..."
Disagree, this is the first season he gets two or three plays in the post per game, 23 years old, he still has room to improve...Leonard'll maximize his strengths as post up player.
Shaq never had the entire post arsenal of Hakeem or Tim, but he was a beast and effective scorer.

Obviously Kawhi isn't the unique, most talented player of his generation like Jordan, Lebron, Durant, but he's already a great player.

I did say he didn't have good ball handling skills that is true. Not going to even debate that. Now you are lying when I said his post up game was clunky. I never said that. And yes he's not a great player yet. He's a great defender but his scoring is what keeps him from being a great player. Part of being great player in my eyes is being able to at least score 18-20 points a game consistently over 82 games not just 5 games. Time will tell if he can do that we'll see. I guess my definition of great is different because when I say great I'm expecting a guy who can be a franchise player. I can't honestly say Kawhi is a franchise player yet. Like I said before I hope he makes me eat some crow.

[wildchild]

When Leonard carries San Antonio to wins and controls the game in crunch time, then he won't be a role player...

The best player on his team on both ends of the floor for some, the second for others, but he's just a role player for you. Absurd and contradictory.

[wildchild]

I guess my definition of great is different because when I say great I'm expecting a guy who can be a franchise player..

Yep, we have different notions about that.

[wildchild]

Kawhi is unique...If you ask me how many FMVP he will win..

Not 1, Not 2, not 3..but 4 and more..

Bookmark this page.

Being optimistic in this crazy world is a courageous choice :tu

[wildchild]

Part of being great player in my eyes is being able to at least score 18-20 points a game consistently over 82 games not just 5 games.

Kawhi's improving...he scored 18-20 points in 18 of 44 games in his most injury-plagued season.

[ChumpDumper]

Got those quotes of mine yet?

[dabom]

Got those quotes of mine yet?

Chump we see you go into a lot of parker threads and start trolling and deflecting and go off in a tangent. That's a form of censuring.
Here's a lol when you want some quotes.

[wildchild]

Selective quoting preserves sanity in sports forums.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump we see you go into a lot of parker threads and start trolling and deflecting and go off in a tangent. That's a form of censuring.
Here's a lol when you want some quotes.So he just lied about what I posted.

No problem.

I knew it all along.

lol "censuring"

Stay in school.

[ChumpDumper]

Selective quoting preserves sanity in sports forums.
So what did your lying do?

[dabom]

So he just lied about what I posted.

No problem.

I knew it all along.

lol "censuring"

Stay in school.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lolDo you actually know what censuring means?

[dabom]

cen·sure
ˈsen(t)SHər/
verb
gerund or present participle: censuring


express severe disapproval of (someone or something), typically in a formal statement.
"a judge was censured in 1983 for a variety of types of injudicious conduct"

[wildchild]

Someone can't admit a mistake and try to sow doubt about others saying they are lying? Sad. So sad.

[ChumpDumper]

cen·sure
ˈsen(t)SHər/
verb
gerund or present participle: censuring


express severe disapproval of (someone or something), typically in a formal statement.
"a judge was censured in 1983 for a variety of types of injudicious conduct"





lol you had to look it up.

You meant to say "censoring."

[ChumpDumper]

Someone can't admit a mistake and try to sow doubt about others saying they are lying? Sad. So sad.Still waiting for that quote you attributed to me.

Chop chop.

[dabom]

lol you had to look it up.

You meant to say "censoring."

No I didn't. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

No I didn't. :lmaoSure you did.

Your sloppy copypasta job confirms it.

You had no idea you screwed up; no you are trying to save face by saying I made a formal statement of disapproval.

So sad.

[dabom]

I looked it up for you. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I looked it up for you. :lolKeep digging.

[dabom]

Keep digging.

Go back to school chump. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Go back to school chump. :lmaolol censuring

[wildchild]

Literally sitting in his chair waiting for quotes... let the image speak for itself.

[dabom]

Key word "typically". :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Literally sitting in his chair waiting for quotes... let the image speak for itself.I'm not expecting you to post any, because there aren't any.

You failed.

Sorry.

[ChumpDumper]

Key word "typically". :lmaolol trying so hard

[dabom]

lol trying so hard

Backfire. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Backfire. :lolIt certainly did backfire on you.

lol white knight failure

:cry It's a form of censuring! I meant to post it! I had to look it up but I knew it all along! :cry

[dabom]

It certainly did backfire on you.

lol white knight failure

:cry It's a form of censuring! i meant to post it! :cry

Lol I know what you are thinking :lmao so don't stop denying me :lmao

[dabom]

You asked for a definition so I easily copy and pasted the definition that you didn't really know. :lmao

[dabom]

Look guys, chump's vocabulary is growing. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Lol I know what you are thinkingI'm thinking you're kind of stupid.
:lmao so don't stop denying me :lmaoDenying you what?

What does that mean?

What are you desiring that I am denying you?

Is English your second language?

[ChumpDumper]

You asked for a definition so I easily copy and pasted the definition that you didn't really know. :lmaoYou had to look it up for yourself.


Look guys, chump's vocabulary is growing. :lollol formal disapproval

Nice job trying to distract from wildchild's failure with your own failure.

[dabom]

You had to look it up for yourself.

lol formal disapproval

Nice job trying to distract from wildchild's failure with your own failure.

I'm going to sleep. I like making you look stupid. Fun times. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I'm going to sleep. I like making you look stupid. Fun times. :lmaoStay in school.

Learn that English. It will really help you in this country.

[dabom]

Stay in school.

Learn that English. It will really help you in this country.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:cry I'm going to sleep! Oh no! i have to post another emoticon! :cry

[Malik Hairston]

:lol dabom is a monster, tbh..relentless..

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ab/abb5225a0cbea0c1bc370168574dea4f9be8a30b9b3d9ee34e 58cf35a3583cdc.jpgYou guys do need all the help you can get.

[Malik Hairston]

Help for what? What do we need help for? Who is "you guys"?

[ChumpDumper]

Help for what? What do we need help for? Who is "we"?One of you posted a bald faced lie. Shit himself when he got called on it. Then White Knight #1 made it worse for all of you with -- lol -- censuring.

Now you're trying, #2.

You do all try really hard. I'll give you that.

[rasuo214]

I did say he didn't have good ball handling skills that is true. Not going to even debate that. Now you are lying when I said his post up game was clunky. I never said that. And yes he's not a great player yet. He's a great defender but his scoring is what keeps him from being a great player. Part of being great player in my eyes is being able to at least score 18-20 points a game consistently over 82 games not just 5 games. Time will tell if he can do that we'll see. I guess my definition of great is different because when I say great I'm expecting a guy who can be a franchise player. I can't honestly say Kawhi is a franchise player yet. Like I said before I hope he makes me eat some crow.

That would require Kawhi getting more shots (at least 2 to 3 more shots per game). So not really fair to blame him for something that isn't really in his control.


Players with fewer than 13 FGA per game, the highest in PPG is Eric Bledsoe with 17.1.

[Malik Hairston]

One of you posted a bald faced lie. Shit himself when he got called on it. Then White Knight #1 made it worse for all of you with -- lol -- censuring.

Now you're trying, #2.

You do all try really hard. I'll give you that.

:lol I merely commented on another poster bringing the goods, tbh..you have concocted quite the conspiracy theory, though, you sound like mouse, nigga..

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I merely commented on another poster bringing the goods, tbh..you have concocted quite the conspiracy theory, though, you sound like mouse, nigga..What goods did he bring specifically that you felt compelled to comment in support of him at that particular time?

[Malik Hairston]

What goods did he bring specifically that you felt compelled to comment in support of him at that particular time?

I enjoyed his delivery, tbh, funny stuff..I comment on other posters all the time and give them their due when it is merited..

[K...]

wow another game in which Parker and Kawhi score almost the exact same points. This is getting to be crazy with how consistent they are as a team.

[K...]

There seems to be too much kawhi player fan on kawhi anti player fan fighting today. What's up guys? Seems like the Celtic win happened without much drama? Do some of you guys just keep your player fan agenda's in check until the parker-kawhi point spread is large enough to prove your points via some broken emotional logic?

Anyway great game for kawhi. Seems like this shouldn't be controversial.

[ChumpDumper]

I think there is like one bona fide anti-Kawhi poster here.

Sure gets the krew riled up tho.

[Clipper Nation]

OP is still a faggot despite his poor attempt to pretend that he doesn't loathe Kawhi.

[K...]

Hi there clip, can you point me to my anti kawhi threads?

I am a Tony Parker fan, and a team fan, but i Don't feel emotionally better when Kawhi struggles like the player fans do when Parker or Manu struggle. Kawhi is a good kid with an amazing game and had made some amazing gains since his rookie year. This year he struggled, nbd. Some people want to make him the second coming of jesus, i disagree. If this is what a kawhi hater is, then so be it.

[K...]

Hi there Spurstalk.bad game tonight. I hope y'all don't wear yourselves out with this loss. Rivalry game, very unpredictable. Kawhi had his moments, but ultimately could not carry the team to a win..Here's to hoping that one day kawhi can help this team win on nights like these where the offense and defense can't maintain consistent energy