lmao seahawks/wilson haters

[Ghazi]

Jimmy Graham ... ouch.. condolences DD, Harlem, and the rest of the desperate race baitors.. Seahawks stacked.

[JohnnyMax]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14881/russell-wilson

the game manager has never passed for more than 3,500 yards in a season while rushing stats increase every year.

[Clipper Nation]

Graham will inevitably be the scapegoat when Struggle continues to be a pussy game manager - just like every other TE/WR to come through Seattle since Struggle was drafted.

[hehateme]

Does Seattle even run a lot of schemes with their TE or are they more of an extra pass blocker for when Wilson decides to run.

[Robz4000]

Ruh-oh, Ghazi just gave the Seahawks the kiss of death...

[Pelicans78]

Jimmy Graham ... ouch.. condolences DD, Harlem, and the rest of the desperate race baitors.. Seahawks stacked.

Salam bro.

Have you watched Graham play the last two seasons? He hasn't been close to the player he was in 2011. He's not healthy. He's got a really bad shoulder.

[Darth_Pelican]

Salam bro.

Have you watched Graham play the last two seasons? He hasn't been close to the player he was in 2011. He's not healthy. He's got a really bad shoulder.

It's strange that Seattle wanted him. They pride themselves on gritty and tough football. Graham doesn't fit their mold at all.

[Emily Rose]

Super Bowl losers curse, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Super Bowl losers curse, tbh.
all of this season we had heard about the super bowl winners curse, and they came within 1 yard of repeating. they're still clearly a top flight NFC team

[Clipper Nation]

and they came within 1 yard of repeating

Unfortunately, they still have the pussy QB who couldn't even complete a one-yard pass with a ring on the line.

[DD]

$500 that says he doesn't reach 1000 rec yds next season.

[Pelicans78]

$500 that says he doesn't reach 1000 rec yds next season.

Especially if he keeps dropping a ton of passes.

But if he's healthy, he will make an impact.

[spurraider21]

must have stung to give up that first rounder though. DGB could have potentially been the pick there

[Pelicans78]

Wonder if his gayness will cause any issue in the locker room.

[Avante]

It is funny watching all that....DUH!

The bottom line is winning, it is not....ya gotta throw the ball, throw the ball...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Russell Wilson is a read option QB and he does it better than anyone ever has. He's smart and knows how to win football games. And he's done it without great receivers and now he finally gets a TE.

Russell Wilson is the most successful QB in history at his stage of a career. And it's funny watching all those here who don't understand the game.

Pete Carroll wants to run a power offense, he doesn't wanna.....ya gotta throw the ball, throw it I tell ya..haha!!!! so who does he have, the best ever at running that offense.

I can see it now....

Dummy....well if it weren't for that D, The Beast and Jimmy Graham................hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's really funny is coming out of college RW was the all time NCAA passing efficiency leader. And after three seasons he's the all time NFL passer ratings leaders.

[spurraider21]

Graham isn't a good runblocker, but I doubt they'll use him as one... i imagine they'll use quite a bit 2 TE sets

[Avante]

The RW era....

2012...12-4 win a playoff game/lose to Atl 30-28
2013...14-2 win the Superbowl!
2014...12-4 make it to another Superbowl, losing in the last seconds from a yard out.
2015....trade for an ALL PRO TE, RW will turn 27.

Who can show me any QB with a more impressive resume after three seasons?

[Kool Bob Love]

Unfortunately, they still have the pussy QB who couldn't even complete a one-yard pass with a ring on the line.

and yet after all that lynch knew where his bread was butter. Back in line behind #3.

[Clipper Nation]

> Argues that winning in the NFL "isn't about throwing the ball"
> Whines that Struggle hasn't had enough weapons in the passing game, jizzes himself over Seattle adding a receiver

:lol Old Faggot

[Avante]

> Argues that winning in the NFL "isn't about throwing the ball"
> Whines that Struggle hasn't had enough weapons in the passing game, jizzes himself over Seattle adding a receiver

:lol Old Faggot

I'll go slow....


The Seahawks want to run tye ball, ok stupid? Now when you "must" double a TE what happens? Now think stupid, yep....ONE LESS DEFENDER PLAYING THE RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya wanna give your D a blow, ok dummy? That comes about by working the clock, now what keeps that clock rolling....RUNNING THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn you're dumb.

Hey stupid, what QB has more more games in their first three seaons than RW, try....NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MarioSpeedwagon]

must have stung to give up that first rounder though. DGB could have potentially been the pick there

Wasnt it like the 31st pick? People value draft picks way too high. Especially when you spend ten minutes on Wikipedia looking at old drafts and see how most draft picks turn out

[Clipper Nation]

I'll go slow....


The Seahawks want to run tye ball, ok stupid? Now when you "must" double a TE what happens? Now think stupid, yep....ONE LESS DEFENDER PLAYING THE RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya wanna give your D a blow, ok dummy? Take comes about play working the clock, now what keeps that clock rolling....RUNNING THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn you're dumb.
If Struggle's such a great quarterback, why does everything on his team need to be centered around the running game when the quarterback's job is to pass?

[Avante]

If Struggle's such a great quarterback, why does everything on his team need to be centered around the running game when the quarterback's job is to pass?

I'll crawl like a snail......


Nobody but a moron gives a fuck how it's done, ok stupid? The bottom line is win, ok? Nobody has won more games than Russell Wilson, ok? He's not there to do anything other than win and nobody has ever done it better, ok?

Damn you're dumb!

Like I always say, show me any QB who did it better after three seasons, come on moron who is that?

[spurraider21]

Wasnt it like the 31st pick? People value draft picks way too high. Especially when you spend ten minutes on Wikipedia looking at old drafts and see how most draft picks turn out
impossibru

[Avante]

So many firsts for RW.

Shortest QB to win a SB.

300 yards passing/100 yards rushing in a game.

100 passer rating first two seasons.

SB win in second season.

most wins in three seasons.

Wisconsin QB to win a SB.

Seattle QB to win a SB.

NCAA passing efficiency leader becoming an NFL passer rating leader.

QB to play with the top redzone RB/TE as far as scoring goes.

[unleashbaynes]

Graham is washed up....pretty meh pickup.

[DD]

I love Jimmy Graham and think he's still a beast...but Seattle is where WR/TE go to their fantasy deaths

[MarioSpeedwagon]

impossibru

Spend ten minutes looking at like any random draft from 6-7 years and what percentage of the picks were bad. And back then it was even worse because rookie wages were way higher. At least if a pick works you can underpay the guy for a while but its still a crap shoot. Belichick has a ton of horrible picks on his resume and he's one of the best personnel guys in the league

[Avante]

Graham is washed up....pretty meh pickup.

In the last two seasons...

over 170 receptions
over 2000 yards
26td's

That's washed up?

We could take the last 10 seasons and not see that for Seahawk TE's combined.

[monosylab1k]

$500 that says he doesn't reach 1000 rec yds next season.

Ghazi could get himself a couple of handjobs with that.

[DD]

In the last two seasons...

over 170 receptions
over 2000 yards
26td's

That's washed up?

We could take the last 10 seasons and not see that for Seahawk TE's combined.
Truth

[unleashbaynes]

In the last two seasons...

over 170 receptions
over 2000 yards
26td's

That's washed up?

We could take the last 10 seasons and not see that for Seahawk TE's combined.
I like how you used "in the last 2 years" in order to try and hide his decline. His 2013 stats were way better.

[Spur-Addict]

Obviously his numbers will go down based on scheme, that's irrelevant. His presence is all that matters. He'll make life easer on everybody. A player that plays through injuries is tough enough to me, even if they don't block well. And obviously when you're injured your numbers will go down by default. So we traded a Pro Bowler who is always injured and missed many games, for better pro bowler who plays through injuries and has a greater impact on the game. And filling a significant need as well. He's 28 years old and happens to be a top 2 TE in the game, a player that just signed a new contract and we don't have to haggle with anytime soon. Granted our O-Line still needs a makeover, but this trade is a WIN.

[Blake]

I'll go slow....


The Seahawks want to run tye ball, ok stupid? Now when you "must" double a TE what happens? Now think stupid, yep....ONE LESS DEFENDER PLAYING THE RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya wanna give your D a blow, ok dummy? That comes about by working the clock, now what keeps that clock rolling....RUNNING THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn you're dumb.

Hey stupid, what QB has more more games in their first three seaons than RW, try....NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How often do you have to take your keyboard in to replace the "!" button

[Pelicans78]

Obviously his numbers will go down based on scheme, that's irrelevant. His presence is all that matters. He'll make life easer on everybody. A player that plays through injuries is tough enough to me, even if they don't block well. And obviously when you're injured your numbers will go down by default. So we traded a Pro Bowler who is always injured and missed many games, for better pro bowler who plays through injuries and has a greater impact on the game. And filling a significant need as well. He's 28 years old and happens to be a top 2 TE in the game, a player that just signed a new contract and we don't have to haggle with anytime soon. Granted our O-Line still needs a makeover, but this trade is a WIN.

Its a win for both teams.

[manufan10]

I think it will be interesting to see how RW responds this season. This gives the Seahawks a legitimate receiving threat.

[Spur-Addict]

Its a win for both teams.

I agree. I really hope Max stays healthy, his impact will be felt instantaneously. He was one of my favorite players while in a Hawks uniform. He'll fit effortlessly, very intelligent player. Not to mention you now have two first round picks, niiiice :lol

[The Gemini Method]

I agree. I really hope Max stays healthy, his impact will be felt instantaneously. He was one of my favorite players while in a Hawks uniform. He'll fit effortlessly, very intelligent player. Not to mention you now have two first round picks, niiiice :lol
Hope he does well out in NoLa, too. Got yourself a gamer! Best of luck to Max Unger!

[spurraider21]

Its a win for both teams.
i agree

[Avante]

I like how you used "in the last 2 years" in order to try and hide his decline. His 2013 stats were way better.

I like how you ignore the fact he had over 80 catchs in 2014. Now tell me slick how many catchs have Seattle TE 's had in the last decade? He's a HUGE upgrade and it's real obvious.

The thing is he demands double coverage, now what's that do to a running game?

[Clipper Nation]

In the last two seasons...

over 170 receptions
over 2000 yards
26td's

That's washed up?

We could take the last 10 seasons and not see that for Seahawk TE's combined.
Not a fair comparison. Graham had Brees throwing to him while the Seahawks TE's were stuck with Struggle.

[unleashbaynes]

I like how you ignore the fact he had over 80 catchs in 2014. Now tell me slick how many catchs have Seattle TE 's had in the last decade? He's a HUGE upgrade and it's real obvious.

The thing is he demands double coverage, now what's that do to a running game?
Yeah, he's an upgrade over Luke Willson. If he stays healthy.

[unleashbaynes]

I like how you ignore the fact he had over 80 catchs in 2014. Now tell me slick how many catchs have Seattle TE 's had in the last decade? He's a HUGE upgrade and it's real obvious.

The thing is he demands double coverage, now what's that do to a running game?
Yeah, he's an upgrade over Luke Willson. If he stays healthy.

[Avante]

Not a fair comparison. Graham had Brees throwing to him while the Seahawks TE's were stuck with Struggle.

Do you ever actualy look into anything? RW has a higher passer rating than Brees the last three seasons. And, if you compare Brees first three seasons to RW's, it's all RW.

Dude, how can you be so damn stupid?

Are you ever going to figure this out?

[Clipper Nation]

I like how you ignore the fact he had over 80 catchs in 2014. Now tell me slick how many catchs have Seattle TE 's had in the last decade?
Graham was also targeted 125 times last season.

In comparison, John Carlson led the Seahawks in receptions and receiving yards in 2008 while only being targeted 80 times. Of course, that was in the pre-Struggle era when they still had real quarterbacks instead of gimmicks :lol

[Avante]

Graham was also targeted 125 times last season.

In comparison, John Carlson led the Seahawks in receptions and receiving yards in 2008 while only being targeted 80 times. Of course, that was in the pre-Struggle era when they still had real quarterbacks instead of gimmicks :lol

You mean back when they went 4-12, 5-11,7-9, 7-9? Then since RW...12-6,16-3, 14-4.

Great point ya made there slick, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's those fucking gimmicks, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you work at being stupid?

I'll ask again, hey stupid what QB has been more successful than RW after just three seasons, well?

[Clipper Nation]

Do you ever actualy look into anything? RW has a higher passer rating than Brees the last three seasons. And, if you compare Brees first three seasons to RW's, it's all RW.

Dude, how can you be so damn stupid?

Are you ever going to figure this out?
First of all, Brees is routinely throwing the ball 50 and even 60 times a game, while Struggle has never topped 37 attempts. More throws = higher risk of incompletions and picks.

Second of all, QB ratings should be the last thing any Struggle Wilson dickrider would ever want to bring up. (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/101699/no-one-gets-more-help-than-russell-wilson)

[The Gemini Method]

Not sure this guy should use dickriding as an adverse term when relating to Wilson--it seems he's enjoyed being spitroasted by his cocksucking of LeBron and his constant anti-Wilson stance. We get it. You don't like him. Don't need to sound like a salty ex-bitch each and every time.

[Avante]

First of all, Brees is routinely throwing the ball 50 and even 60 times a game, while Struggle has never topped 37 attempts. More throws = higher risk of incompletions and picks.

Second of all, QB ratings should be the last thing any Struggle Wilson dickrider would ever want to bring up. (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/101699/no-one-gets-more-help-than-russell-wilson)

So QB's are judged on passing atempts, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, QB's are judged by wins, ok?

RW is fantastic guy and only a total moron like you wouldn't get that.

[Avante]

Not sure this guy should use dickriding as an adverse term when relating to Wilson--it seems he's enjoyed being spitroasted by his cocksucking of LeBron and his constant anti-Wilson stance. We get it. You don't like him. Don't need to sound like a salty ex-bitch each and every time.

It's pretty obvious CN is a moron, but it is fun kicking his dumbass around.

His....ya gotta throw! throw the ball, throw! throw!..hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! The bitch too stupid to realize, no ya don't.

[benefactor]

So many firsts for RW.

Shortest QB to win a SB.

300 yards passing/100 yards rushing in a game.

100 passer rating first two seasons.

SB win in second season.

most wins in three seasons.

Wisconsin QB to win a SB.

Seattle QB to win a SB.

NCAA passing efficiency leader becoming an NFL passer rating leader.

QB to play with the top redzone RB/TE as far as scoring goes.
First QB to ever throw a pick on the 1 yd line to lose a Superbowl.

Just making sure you had all your bases covered. You may continue.

[Clipper Nation]

So QB's are judged on passing atempts, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're retarded. Brees racks up attempts because he's a real franchise QB whose team expects to win games on his arm. Struggle is the exact opposite.


Dude, QB's are judged by wins, ok?
Rodney Peete > Struggle, then.

[Spur-Addict]

Not sure this guy should use dickriding as an adverse term when relating to Wilson--it seems he's enjoyed being spitroasted by his cocksucking of LeBron and his constant anti-Wilson stance. We get it. You don't like him. Don't need to sound like a salty ex-bitch each and every time.

He just keeps on with it because Avante responds to him. He and others have ran it into the ground so much that it really has little to no value.

[Avante]

First QB to ever throw a pick on the 1 yd line to lose a Superbowl.

Just making sure you had all your bases covered. You may continue.

First QB to play in two SB's in his first three seasons.

[Clipper Nation]

If certain faggots didn't try to compare Struggle to franchise quarterbacks who have a lot more responsibilities and worse supporting casts than he does, there wouldn't be an issue. The whole "Struggle = greatest three-year QB ever while ignoring all context" schtick causes people to actively dislike him. I have zero problem with anyone else on Seattle and was rooting for the Seahawks in the last two SB's, though.

[Avante]

You're retarded. Brees racks up attempts because he's a real franchise QB whose team expects to win games on his arm. Struggle is the exact opposite.


Rodney Peete > Struggle, then.

Why do you keep ignoring the fact no QB in the league has had more game winning drives than RW since he came in the league? Why keep ignoring the fact his receivers are the worst gang of any winning team? Why keep ignoring the fact when he does throw his stats are amazing?

Where did you ever get this stupid....ya gotta throw gotta throw...bullshit? Stupid, ya gotta win win and win....ok?

[Avante]

If certain faggots didn't try to compare Struggle to franchise quarterbacks who have a lot more responsibilities and worse supporting casts than he does, there wouldn't be an issue. The whole "Struggle = greatest three-year QB ever while ignoring all context" schtick causes people to actively dislike him. I have zero problem with anyone else on Seattle and was rooting for the Seahawks in the last two SB's, though.

Context?

Has RW started every game, yep!
Has he won more games, yep!
Are his stats superior to anyones, yep!
Has he done things never seen before, yep!

Those are the facts little man, context???

[Clipper Nation]

Where did you ever get this stupid....ya gotta throw gotta throw...bullshit? Stupid, ya gotta win win and win....ok?
http://i.imgur.com/xCsJ0PD.png

The run/pass ratio has swung dramatically in favor of the passing game since the mid-'70s. It's not bullshit, it's statistical fact.

[Clipper Nation]

Context?

Has RW started every game, yep!
Has he won more games, yep!
Are his stats superior to anyones, yep!
Has he done things never seen before, yep!

Those are the facts little man, context???
Does Struggle have Lynch and a stacked defense, yep!
Did he walk into a better situation than the majority of rookie QB's, yep!

[Avante]

He just keeps on with it because Avante responds to him. He and others have ran it into the ground so much that it really has little to no value.

I get a kick out of it.

Guy was brought in to back up the big $$$$ man, so what's he do, he beats him out then precedes to have the best first three seasons we have ever seen from any QB. The guy is amazing. And then here comes this fucking moron CN who knows zero about football looking totally moronic, yep, it's funny.

[Avante]

Does Struggle have Lynch and a stacked defense, yep!
Did he walk into a better situation than the majority of rookie QB's, yep!

Was he not brought in to sit the bench, yep! Did the Lions win with Barry Sanders? Did the Vikes win with Peterson? Did the Chiefs win with Charles? Tons of great RB's who never won shit. Does he have any "great" receivers? Does he play in the best division in football?

Figure it out dummy, ok?

Put him in the AFC South, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell, the NFC South.

[Avante]

http://i.imgur.com/xCsJ0PD.png

The run/pass ratio has swung dramatically in favor of the passing game since the mid-'70s. It's not bullshit, it's statistical fact.

I'll go slow....

Hey stupid, tell me why the Niners and Seahawks have ruled the NFC the last five years? Now think ya dumb fuck? Was it the passing game?

Pay attention.....

It doesn't matter what the league numbers are, a team that can run the ball and stuff the run will always be in the mix. Lok at the Cowboys in 2014, what was the big difference...A RUNNING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now tell me again ya fucking moron about how ya must throw the football.

Dummy, a dominating running game is really what all football teams want. You really don't know this do ya stupid? Teams don't wanna be in third and long, honest. And they want to beat a team down, you do that how....RUNNING THE BALL! How do you protect a lead....RUN THE BALL!!!!!!!!! How do ya control the time, RUN THE BALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like talking to a little kid, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Funny how...."it's Marshawn Lynch" and "the Colts need a running back"

Then, but ya gotta throw the ball....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pelicans78]

I agree. I really hope Max stays healthy, his impact will be felt instantaneously. He was one of my favorite players while in a Hawks uniform. He'll fit effortlessly, very intelligent player. Not to mention you now have two first round picks, niiiice :lol

Yeah Brees really needs protection up the middle due to his height. During his peak years our interior lineman were among the best in the league. Pressure up the middle is his biggest weakness and our center play has been below average the last 3 seasons. Hopefully Unger can stay healthy and we can use that future cap room to build the roster. Our offense will always be very good with Brees and Payton.

Graham will really give RW that red zone weapon he's been lacking. Expect RW's TDs to go up.

[Avante]

I'll go slow....

An offense wants to be in third and 2, ok? Now it's "will they run or pass". Ya with me? That's the value of having a running game. ok"? If in constant third and 6, guess what? Now how about those bad weather games in Jan? Think about it.

The 85 Bears the perfect example of a great football team. The perfect team actually. They had a stud back in Walter Payton and a monster D. That's what wins at all levels of football. That will never change.

[Clipper Nation]

Was he not brought in to sit the bench, yep! Did the Lions win with Barry Sanders? Did the Vikes win with Peterson? Did the Chiefs win with Charles? Tons of great RB's who never won shit. Does he have any "great" receivers? Does he play in the best division in football?

Figure it out dummy, ok?

Put him in the AFC South, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell, the NFC South.
He was not brought in to warm the bench. Carroll is all for open competition moreso than most coaches. Struggle was always going to get a chance to compete for the starting job.

It's amazing how you've flip-flopped from "you have to run to win games" to "RB's don't win shit and Struggle doesn't have enough weapons in the passing game" to prop up Struggle. Face it, you're a fanboy. You'll say literally anything to defend Struggle even if it contradicts your prior excuses.

[Avante]

He was not brought in to warm the bench. Carroll is all for open competition moreso than most coaches. Struggle was always going to get a chance to compete for the starting job.

It's amazing how you've flip-flopped from "you have to run to win games" to "RB's don't win shit and Struggle doesn't have enough weapons in the passing game" to prop up Struggle. Face it, you're a fanboy. You'll say literally anything to defend Struggle even if it contradicts your prior excuses.

How about a tad bit of reality amigo, ok?

When Russell Wilson got to Seattle as a rookie third-round draft choice in 2012, he was initially buried on the Seahawks’ depth chart behind Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson.
Two years into his regime as a first-time general manager, former Packers executive John Schneider signed Flynn, Green Bay’s backup to Aaron Rodgers, to a $26 million contract with $10 million guaranteed to get his first NFL starting job for Seattle.
Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2015/01/17/remember-this-guy-beaten-out-by-russell-wilson-matt-flynn-returns-to-seattle-as-rodgers-backup-again/#storylink=cpy

Wow!

All teams want to run the ball, ok little man? That is the key to winning football games at all levels, ok? You are winning the time of possesion, controlling the clock, your D is getting a blow. And you are protecting your QB, and less chance of a turnover, ok?

We've seen both ends of the spectrum, teams dominate because they can run and stuff the run and teams that could run but not stop the run, ya with me moron?

Now think ya dumb fuck, ok?

So they sign Flynn to a huge contract then draft a guy in the "third" round in hopes he can win the job, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CN, you gotta be about the dumbest fuck I've ever seen, dead serious!

Schneider....I just signed Flynn for all that $$$$ for the hell of it coach. See if Jackson or that rokie can make me look stupid, ok?
Carroll...ok?

Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

I'll go slow....

Hey stupid, tell me why the Niners and Seahawks have ruled the NFC the last five years? Now think ya dumb fuck? Was it the passing game?
The Whiners haven't "ruled" jack shit. You won the NFC once. By that logic, the Chargers "ruled" the AFC in the '90s. Franchise and near-franchise quarterbacks like Rodgers, Brees, and Eli, who are asked to win the game with their arm, have "ruled" the NFC more than the Decliners have.


Pay attention.....

It doesn't matter what the league numbers are, a team that can run the ball and stuff the run will always be in the mix. Lok at the Cowboys in 2014, what was the big difference...A RUNNING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The difference was Romo getting healthy and improvements to the O-line and defense.


Dummy, a dominating running game is really what all football teams want.
A running back hasn't been drafted in the first round in years, playcalling trends have overwhelmingly favored the passing game league-wide since the '70s, and coaches have started using the short passing game as a substitute for the running game dating back to Bill Walsh and the West Coast Offense. When teams are winning playoff games without handing the ball off once in the entire second half and winning Super Bowls with an RB by committee, it seems teams aren't really worried about having a dominating running game anymore.

[Avante]

The Whiners haven't "ruled" jack shit. You won the NFC once. By that logic, the Chargers "ruled" the AFC in the '90s. Franchise and near-franchise quarterbacks like Rodgers, Brees, and Eli, who are asked to win the game with their arm, have "ruled" the NFC more than the Decliners have.


The difference was Romo getting healthy and improvements to the O-line and defense.


A running back hasn't been drafted in the first round in years, playcalling trends have overwhelmingly favored the passing game league-wide since the '70s, and coaches have started using the short passing game as a substitute for the running game dating back to Bill Walsh and the West Coast Offense. When teams are winning playoff games without handing the ball off once in the entire second half and winning Super Bowls with an RB by committee, it seems teams aren't really worried about having a dominating running game anymore.

Damn you're dumb.

What teams have represented the NFC in the last three SB's, and in the NFC Championship games the last five, well?

DeMarco Murray was why the Cowboys had the success they did in 2014, you really don't get that? Wow!

So tell me guy what team has won more games than anyone the last three seasons, yep...Seahawks! Do they run the ball?

Why do the Colts always come up short, oh yeah....no running game! So who was their first big acquisition....???

Dude, why throw the ball if you can pound it, now think...ok? The problem is most teams can't run the ball so they are forced to throw.

A pro team wants to do all they can to keep that D fresh, now think stupid, ok?

The thing about running backs is that the ones coming out of college have those young legs and no wear and tear from NFL seasons, so you can get a solid back later. And there just isn't a huge difference in backs most the time. Some exceptions. Hell, Emmitt Smith had a career average of just 4.2.

When RW signs his new contract, tell me again about how he's not a franchise QB, ok dummy?

[Avante]

Hey CN, who were those rookie QB's that started right off winning games, ok? Those who never sat on the bench at all and by year four had already played in two SB's. Who were they?

[Pelicans78]

The Niners were only good from 2011-2013. How is that 5 years? The Seahawks have had their run from 2012-2014? How was is that 5 years?

Lynch was the only dominant rusher to win a Super Bowl in the last 5 years unless you include a declining Ray Rice, but Flacco was the horse of that team.

[Avante]

The Niners were only good from 2011-2013. How is that 5 years? The Seahawks have had their run from 2012-2014? How was is that 5 years?

Lynch was the only dominant rusher to win a Super Bowl in the last 5 years unless you include a declining Ray Rice, but Flacco was the horse of that team.

I was talking about....

Niners in the NFC title game from 2011-2013 and the Seahawks being there in 2013/2014, that's five.

My point is we are seeing what a stud running game can do if a team can also play defense. You do not need to pass the ball all over the place if you can do that. The thing is most teams can't do that.

The key to the NFL is putting a team in third and long while you're in third and short.

There's Andrew Luck in that constant third and 6, so what's he have to do, yep, throw the ball. Is RW in that situation?

[Pelicans78]

I was talking about....

Niners in the NFC title game from 2011-2013 and the Seahawks being there in 2013/2014, that's five.

My point is we are seeing what a stud running game can do if a team can also play defense. You do not need to pass the ball all over the place if you can do that. The thing is most teams can't do that.

The key to the NFL is putting a team in third and long while you're in third and short.

There's Andrew Luck in that constant third and 6, so what's he have to do, yep, throw the ball. Is RW in that situation?

But you also need a QB to make plays to win those big games which RW has done and what CK did earlier. No way the Niners get to the Super Bowl and win at Atlanta with Alex Smith.

[Avante]

But you also need a QB to make plays to win those big games which RW has done and what CK did earlier. No way the Niners get to the Super Bowl and win at Atlanta with Alex Smith.

Alex Smith would have been in a SB if not for a couple fumbles by a kick returner. Hell yes Alex Smith could make a SB, just like Dilfer, Humphries, Eason, Johnson.

[Pelicans78]

Alex Smith would have been in a SB if not for a couple fumbles by a kick returner. Hell yes Alex Smith could make a SB, just like Dilfer, Humphries, Eason, Johnson.

The team wasn't driving with Alex Smith in the 4th or OT. Constant 3 and outs. Giants were most likely to get a play or two from Eli than the Niners were with Alex Smith. He was terrible in the 2nd half of that game. Even if Williams didn't fumble in OT, who's to say the Niners were gonna score? They couldn't move the ball. And no way Smith would have led a comeback at Atlanta down 17-0. He couldn't make enough plays like CK did. And if the Saints would have played a prevent defense than no way the Niners get to the NFC Title game. And they would have laid the hammer on the Giants in the Superdome. That Giants defense had no chance against that offense.

[Pelicans78]

Stan Humphries was more talented than Smith. Threw a much better deep ball which was perfect for that Chargers offense in the 90s.

[Avante]

The team wasn't driving with Alex Smith in the 4th or OT. Constant 3 and outs. Giants were most likely to get a play or two from Eli than the Niners were with Alex Smith. He was terrible in the 2nd half of that game. Even if Williams didn't fumble in OT, who's to say the Niners were gonna score? They couldn't move the ball. And no way Smith would have led a comeback at Atlanta down 17-0. He couldn't make enough plays like CK did. And if the Saints would have played a prevent defense than no way the Niners get to the NFC Title game. And they would have laid the hammer on the Giants in the Superdome. That Giants defense had no chance against that offense.


The thing is all it would take for Smith to be a SB QB was a couple plays. To act like...oh no no he could never....is silly.

[NFO]

The key to the NFL is putting a team in third and long while you're in third and short.

Staying in ahead of the down and distance is football 101, everybody knows that.



There's Andrew Luck in that constant third and 6, so what's he have to do, yep, throw the ball. Is RW in that situation?

Can you post a link that shows a team's average down and distance on 3rd down? Just want to see if the Colts actual average down and distance was 3rd and 6 and compare it to other QBs around the league.

[Pelicans78]

The thing is all it would take for Smith to be a SB QB was a couple plays. To act like...oh no no he could never....is silly.

Same thing with Eli in that game.

But he wasn't gonna bring the Niners back from a 17-0 deficit on the road against a good Atlanta team.

[Avante]

Stan Humphries was more talented than Smith. Threw a much better deep ball which was perfect for that Chargers offense in the 90s.

What?

Humphries has an inferior comp %, an inferior passing rating and he his TD/INT ratio was 89-84, compared to Smith's 122-75.

There is nothing Humphries did better than Smith, nothing.

[Avante]

Same thing with Eli in that game.

But he wasn't gonna bring the Niners back from a 17-0 deficit on the road against a good Atlanta team.

We don't know what he or anyone else was going to do, so cool acting as if we do, ok?

Who would have...

Fan....that third round QB out of Wisconsin is going to beat out Flynn and in a couple seasons win a SB.

well?

[Avante]

Staying in ahead of the down and distance is football 101, everybody knows that.




Can you post a link that shows a team's average down and distance on 3rd down? Just want to see if the Colts actual average down and distance was 3rd and 6 and compare it to other QBs around the league.

Dummy, my third and 6 was just an example, ok stupid?

[Pelicans78]

What?

Humphries has an inferior comp %, an inferior passing rating and he his TD/INT ratio was 89-84, compared to Smith's 122-75.

There is nothing Humphries did better than Smith, nothing.

Different era of playing. His arm strength was much better. Smith wouldn't have succeeded long-term when WRs were getting mugged at the line of scrimmage. Quit looking at just the numbers. Humphries won road playoff games to lead his team to a Super Bowl. He was a big reason why the Chargers succeeded in the 90s with his deep ball ability, especially on play-action. Noodle-arm Smith wouldn't be as successful.

[Pelicans78]

We don't know what he or anyone else was going to do, so cool acting as if we do, ok?

Who would have...

Fan....that third round QB out of Wisconsin is going to beat out Flynn and in a couple seasons win a SB.

Well you keep acting like the Niners would have won in OT if Williams didn't fumble.

well?

[NFO]

Dummy, my third and 6 was just an example, ok stupid?

No really???

I was more curious if the stat actually existed, regardless if you were using an example or not.

[Avante]

Different era of playing. His arm strength was much better. Smith wouldn't have succeeded long-term when WRs were getting mugged at the line of scrimmage. Quit looking at just the numbers. Humphries won road playoff games to lead his team to a Super Bowl. He was a big reason why the Chargers succeeded in the 90s with his deep ball ability, especially on play-action. Noodle-arm Smith wouldn't be as successful.


I saw Humphries from his Redskins days, what are you looking at? Jamarcus Russell could throw it a mile, so what? He was not on a par with Alex Smith and his stats prove that out. Era or no era, he threw a ton of picks and never even had a season where he started all 16 games. You are way off on this one.

[Pelicans78]

I saw Humphries from his Redskins days, what are you looking at? Jamarcus Russell could throw it a mile, so what? He was not on a par with Alex Smith and his stats prove that out. Era or no era, he threw a ton of picks and never even had a season where he started all 16 games. You are way off on this one.

Humphries hardly played with the Redskins. A few games maybe. But he was tough as nails. Played thru injuries all the time.

Smith was terrible his first 6 seasons in the league. He finally found the right coach to be a game manager, but came up short when his team needed.

[Aztecfan03]

What?

Humphries has an inferior comp %, an inferior passing rating and he his TD/INT ratio was 89-84, compared to Smith's 122-75.

There is nothing Humphries did better than Smith, nothing.

:rollin

[Avante]

Humphries hardly played with the Redskins. A few games maybe. But he was tough as nails. Played thru injuries all the time.

Smith was terrible his first 6 seasons in the league. He finally found the right coach to be a game manager, but came up short when his team needed.


You don't appear to take advantage of all the info we have out there. You really don't seem to know what's really going on.

Here ya go...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HumpSt00.htm

Now find what Smith has done, ok?

[Avante]

:rollin

Wanna talk some Thunder Thornton, Prentice Gautt? How about some Sonny Randle/Bobby Joe Conrad? You're a Cards fan. My fav Card....Terry Metcalf.

[Clipper Nation]

"Alice Smith > Stan Humphries" is one of Old Faggot's shittiest takes ever, and that's saying something, because he's never had a good one.

[Avante]

"Alice Smith > Stan Humphries" is one of Old Faggot's shittiest takes ever, and that's saying something, because he's never had a good one.

Dude, how many seasons did Humphries start all 16 games? Oh yeah....ZERO!!!!!!!!! Now talk to me about his 89=84 td/int ratio. Then there's the fact he never had a season where he completed over 59% of his passes. His QBR/passer rating were subpar.

Do you know anything at all?

You ever see him play?

[Pelicans78]

You don't appear to take advantage of all the info we have out there. You really don't seem to know what's really going on.

Here ya go...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HumpSt00.htm

Now find what Smith has done, ok?

Smith is a game manager. Couldn't take a stacked team to a Super Bowl unlike CK.

Stan "The Man"!!!!

[Malik Hairston]

:lol why is Ghazi so sensitive about people hating the Seahawks, tbh?..

[Avante]

Smith is a game manager. Couldn't take a stacked team to a Super Bowl unlike CK.

Stan "The Man"!!!!

You really do need to start checking things out, ok? Look at some stats, do some homework, ok? You are so far off it's comical, ok? There are tons of places out there that ya need to start looking into it, ok?

You really don't have a clue, trust me!

[Pelicans78]

You really do need to start checking things out, ok? Look at some stats, do some homework, ok? You are so far off it's comical, ok? There are tons of places out there that ya need to start looking into it, ok?

You really don't have a clue, trust me!

Stan "the Man" led his team to a Super Bowl on the road at Pittsburgh. Smith couldn't get it done against a Giants team who would have gotten smashed in the Superdome. Stan "the Man"!!!!

[Avante]

Stan "the Man" led his team to a Super Bowl on the road at Pittsburgh. Smith couldn't get it done against a Giants team who would have gotten smashed in the Superdome. Stan "the Man"!!!!

Dude, ya always look at the body of work, ok? Not a game, a play, a few games...ok? Anyone/everyone can have a play a game or even a season...ok? Look at how someone played over a period of time, ok?


Rookies, sheesh~~~~~~~

Remember 1000 yard rusher Don Woods, of course not.

[Pelicans78]

Dude, ya always look at the body of work, ok? Not a game, a play, a few games...ok? Anyone/everyone can have a play a game or even a season...ok? Look at how someone played over a period of time, ok?


Rookies, sheesh~~~~~~~

Remember 1000 yard rusher Don Woods, of course not.

Stan "the Man" > game manager Smith

Chargers don't win at Pittsburgh with Gay Manager Smith

Niners don't win at Atlanta with Gay Manager Smith

[Avante]

Stan "the Man" > game manaSmith

Chargers don't win at Pittsburgh with Gay Manager Smith

Niners don't win at Atlanta with Gay Manager Smith

Yep, nothing like a QB who has a career comp % of 56.9, hahahaha!!!!!!!!! Smith has a career comp % of 60.4.