Vlade Divac Says Shaq 'Wasn't Talented...Just Strong' While Praising Boogie

[illusioNtEk]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2401254-vlade-divac-says-shaq-wasnt-talentedjust-strong-while-praising-boogie?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=cnn-sports-bin

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DeMarcus Cousins (http://bleacherreport.com/demarcus-cousins) is the type of player you can tie yourself in pretzels attempting to praise.
The Sacramento Kings center maneuvers his 6’11”, 270-pound frame with mind-boggling grace (https://vine.co/v/OVvFT2bX79T) while still managing to bludgeon you in the post for boards and putbacks. He’s a special talent, and people will go to great lengths expressing their appreciation for his abilities.

Enter Vlade Divac (http://bleacherreport.com/vlade-divac), NBA (http://bleacherreport.com/nba) myth and vice president of basketball and franchise operations for the Kings, who sort-of-kind-of threw Shaquille O’Neal under the bus while trumpeting praises for Cousins. In a recent interview with The Associated Press (h/t Ball Don’t Lie’s Eric Freeman (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/vlade-divac-says-shaquille-o-neal-was-really-strong--not-talented-020729398.html)), Divac placed O’Neal, now a minority owner of the Kings, in the box of artless enforcer while making the case for Cousins as the best big man he's ever laid eyes on.
“I’ve been in basketball a long, long time and I have to say [Cousins is] the most talented big guy I have ever seen,” Divac said. “Shaq wasn’t talented, he was just strong. I was talented, but I wasn’t strong.”

Divac continued to say O’Neal was “one of the most dominant players ever,” which he can attest to having banged bodies with the former Los Angeles Lakers center in the late 1990s and early 2000s while playing for the Charlotte Hornets and Sacramento Kings.

While Divac’s words may sound like unfair criticism (O’Neal had moves—many of them predicated on strength, but moves nonetheless), they were made as more of a broad-strokes argument for Cousins’ play than an intentional knock against O’Neal. Divac was the pinnacle of touch and cunning in big men, while O’Neal remains the golden standard of unstoppable forces in the post. Cousins blends these styles to terrifying results, which is Divac’s overarching message.

Of course, the 47-year-old Serbian clarified his thoughts on O’Neal by saying the dynamic between the two hasn’t changed from their playing days.
“He was always my boss,” Divac said.

[RD2191]

Actually kind of true. I've always said that about Shaq. Even he admitted that he wishes he could do things Tim Duncan did/does like footwork and post moves and all that. Still, being tall and big doesn't mean you're good. Plenty of bigs in the NBA are pieces of shit. Shaq was a great player but if he was talented he'd probably be GOAT.

[Sean Cagney]

Actually kind of true. I've always said that about Shaq. Even he admitted that he wishes he could do things Tim Duncan did/does like footwork and post moves and all that. Still, being tall and big doesn't mean you're good. Plenty of bigs in the NBA are pieces of shit. Shaq was a great player but if he was talented he'd probably be GOAT.

Truth...

[Clipper Nation]

Actually kind of true. I've always said that about Shaq. Even he admitted that he wishes he could do things Tim Duncan did/does like footwork and post moves and all that. Still, being tall and big doesn't mean you're good. Plenty of bigs in the NBA are pieces of shit. Shaq was a great player but if he was talented he'd probably be GOAT.
Shaq wasn't all athleticism, though... he had an unguardable drop-step spin move and a nice hook shot, for example. He didn't play like Duncan, but not everyone can.

[RD2191]

Shaq wasn't all athleticism, though... he had an unguardable drop-step spin move and a nice hook shot, for example. He didn't play like Duncan, but not everyone can.
He had some go to moves for sure. I going off of youtube vida and what I can vaguely remember from the early 2000s. I was 11-12 at that time.

[Chris]

Vlade was a flopping faggot tbh

[313]

:lol thinking Shaq wasn't skilled

[UZER]

Vlade was a flopping faggot tbh

Not until he left LA. With the Lakers he was "savvy".

[CitizenDwayne]

This is all just a publicity move giving the Kings an excuse to prop up Cousins. Smart move

[lefty]

:lol thinking Shaq wasn't skilled
what skills?

His cute turnaround shot that was not that far from the basket?

His shitty hook shot that couldnt be blocked because he had his elbow in the other center's nose?

Passing the ball while double teamed by midgets? omg that was so difficult

Despite all that, he still carried Kobe, that's how shitty Kobe was

[Cry Havoc]

Shaq wasn't all athleticism, though... he had an unguardable drop-step spin move and a nice hook shot, for example. He didn't play like Duncan, but not everyone can.

As much as I hated him, Shaq was a monster. I don't think it was a lack of athleticism, but more a lack of motivation. He was also an underrated passer.

[Chris]

Not until he left LA. With the Lakers he was "savvy".

:lol

[Pelicans78]

what skills?

His cute turnaround shot that was not that far from the basket?

His shitty hook shot that couldnt be blocked because he had his elbow in the other center's nose?

Passing the ball while double teamed by midgets? omg that was so difficult

Despite all that, he still carried Kobe, that's how shitty Kobe was

Its all about his footwork.

[Thebesteva]

Actually kind of true. I've always said that about Shaq. Even he admitted that he wishes he could do things Tim Duncan did/does like footwork and post moves and all that. Still, being tall and big doesn't mean you're good. Plenty of bigs in the NBA are pieces of shit. Shaq was a great player but if he was talented he'd probably be GOAT.

Kind of hypocritical to say Shaq was great but not talented. You stated it perfectly when you said there are plenty of bigs who are 7'0 but have 0 offensive ability. Then you go on to state he wasn't talented. Makes no sense, just like your av tbh

[Thebesteva]

Shaq wasn't all athleticism, though... he had an unguardable drop-step spin move and a nice hook shot, for example. He didn't play like Duncan, but not everyone can.

CN with some truth for once, watching Shaq in his prime was like watching Tyson in the ring. It wasn't as graceful as Ali who is all technique like Duncan (though Duncan is more of the Larry Holmes of the NBA, legend and accomplished more than Tyson but no one gives a shit because he was super dull).

Shaq's offense was unstoppable, if I had to build a team around a prime Shaq or Hakeem, for only 1 playoff series, I'd go with Shaq. Even though Hakeem is a greater player and was one if not the most skilled overall C in NBA history he was stoppable. Shaq was unstoppable in his 3peat run.

[Malik Hairston]

Shaq was talented, but nothing special from that standpoint, tbh..

He obviously had to have some skill to be able to achieve the scoring feats that he achieved, he had nice footwork, a couple of reliable go-to moves, and he was a decent passer, but he would have always had a place in the NBA with his size and athleticism, regardless of skill..not only was he a giant human being, but he was also extremely athletic for his size, that's what made him special..

[Arcadian]

He didn't need to be super skilled with his body, nor would it be physically possible for him to attain many traditional basketball skills. Having the body that he has severely limited what he could do, but it also enabled him to do things that no one else could.

With that said, he still had better post-up skills than any center in the NBA right now. Does that mean Shaq was just that great, or current centers are just that terrible? I'm not so sure.

[Arcadian]

Duncan is more of the Larry Holmes of the NBA, legend and accomplished more than Tyson but no one gives a shit because he was super dull).

:lol You'd like that to be true, wouldn't you?

[Infinite_limit]

A lot of people shitting on Shaq lately

[Findog]

Compared to Kevin McHale or Hakeem Olajuwon, he didn't have a million and one post moves, but it's not true he had "no talent" and relied only on his strength, size and athleticism. I guess Vlade was making kind of a reductive argument, but it is true that most of his dominance came from his natural gifts, with some decent post skills thrown in.

The main thing with Shaq is that he was able to dominate the game at his peak without putting in much work. I'm guessing basketball probably bored him at some point when it became too easy. If he had worked harder and taken better care of his body, he could have enjoyed the same longevity as Duncan.

[Findog]

CN with some truth for once, watching Shaq in his prime was like watching Tyson in the ring. It wasn't as graceful as Ali who is all technique like Duncan (though Duncan is more of the Larry Holmes of the NBA, legend and accomplished more than Tyson but no one gives a shit because he was super dull).

Shaq's offense was unstoppable, if I had to build a team around a prime Shaq or Hakeem, for only 1 playoff series, I'd go with Shaq. Even though Hakeem is a greater player and was one if not the most skilled overall C in NBA history he was stoppable. Shaq was unstoppable in his 3peat run.

Yeah, Shaq's peak is as good as anyone who has ever played. I'd rather have Duncan/Kobe/Hakeem//Jordan/Russell/Wilt/Kareem's career, but Shaq in his prime deserves to be mentioned with any of them.

[DMC]

Shaq was dominant because he wanted to be. He wasn't afraid. He was cocky. When you put that size with the ability to move like he could, and his sheer strength, you saw what happened. No, he wasn't skilled compared to a guard or some bigs, but for being the biggest big, he was good enough to use the genetics he was gifted as effectively as possible.

There's more to skill than pretty moves and shooting touch. It's also knowing how to use that much weight to clear space, how to intimidate, how to do all the things he did. Until he went to LA though,he was too soft.

[Thebesteva]

Yeah, Shaq's peak is as good as anyone who has ever played. I'd rather have Duncan/Kobe/Hakeem//Jordan/Russell/Wilt/Kareem's career, but Shaq in his prime deserves to be mentioned with any of them.

Yeah, its like Tyson's career is eclipsed by Larry Holmes, but we all know Tyson on his best night would kill Holmes (and did nearly murder an older Holmes). Calling Duncan the Larry Holmes of the NBA is a huge compliment, most consider Larry Holmes the 4th or 5th greatest boxer of all time. It's just that he was methodical and unemotional, sound familiar?

[Buddy Mignon]

You know... fuck all you cock suckers. Fuck everyone above and beneath me. I've been saying Shaq was a scrub on the block for years and have caught heat for it, and now you faggots want to agree with this 3rd worlder? You Johnny-come-lately's are so predictable. What's shocking about his statement is not that I've already told you clowns about this years ago, but that he thinks Cousins is the best big man he's ever seen.

[Thebesteva]

:lol You'd like that to be true, wouldn't you?

Actually, it's the truth. Holmes is easily considered the 4th or 5th greatest of all time in most lists. However, very few people are popping in his highlight reels because he wasn't exciting to watch. It doesn't take away his accomplishments

[Arcadian]

Yeah, its like Tyson's career is eclipsed by Larry Holmes, but we all know Tyson on his best night would kill Holmes (and did nearly murder an older Holmes). Calling Duncan the Larry Holmes of the NBA is a huge compliment, most consider Larry Holmes the 4th or 5th greatest boxer of all time. It's just that he was methodical and unemotional, sound familiar?

Ok, but it's not true that "no one cared" or that "he was dull." Well, if by "nobody" you mean "idiots who don't know shit about basketball," then yes! You're totally right.

It's also a misleading analogy, because we saw Duncan and Shaq face off in 2003, and it wasn't entirely favorable for Shaq.

[unleashbaynes]

You know... fuck all you cock suckers. Fuck everyone above and beneath me. I've been saying Shaq was a scrub on the block for years and have caught heat for it, and now you faggots want to agree with this 3rd worlder? You Johnny-come-lately's are so predictable. What's shocking about his statement is not that I've already told you clowns about this years ago, but that he thinks Cousins is the best big man he's ever seen.

Shaq had 3 Finals MVPs. Fuck off, you dumb pole smoking fag.

[Buddy Mignon]

Shaq had 3 Finals MVPs. Fuck off, you dumb pole smoking fag.

Anyone can win a Finals MVS, you dummy. Billups has one. Kiwi has one. Shaq was basically a loser until Kobe forced him to be a man. Duncan would have 9 -10 rings if Shaq didn't have Kobe during that era. Spurs never feared Shaq it was Kobe they couldn't stop.

[unleashbaynes]

Anyone can win a Finals MVS, you dummy. Billups has one. Kiwi has one. Shaq was basically a loser until Kobe forced him to be a man. Duncan would have 9 -10 rings if Shaq didn't have Kobe during that era. Spurs never feared Shaq it was Kobe they couldn't stop.

Duncan guarded shaq. All kobe had to do was not completely shit his pants against Steve Smith, you faggot. As soon as we got Jack, aka a nigga with some balls, Kobe shat his diaper against us.

[Buddy Mignon]

Duncan guarded shaq. All kobe had to do was not completely shit his pants against Steve Smith, you faggot. As soon as we got Jack, aka a nigga with some balls, Kobe shat his diaper against us.


You dumb nigga... Kobe didn't even need Shaq to beat Duncan. He took a scrub in Pau and damn there swept you clowns.

[unleashbaynes]

Then he got swept by soft ass Dirk. What a :cry warrior :cry

[SpurSwag]

:lol thinking Shaq wasn't skilled

[100%duncan]

Faggot Naruto Fan trying to talk basketball :lmao :lmao

[TDMVPDPOY]

shaq had it fkn easy for his career man

during his prime, most of the great centers of the 90s were a shell of their former selves...he had a good 6-8yrs he couldve dominated, win more rings during his tenure with the lakers/heat...he went up against bullshit centers during his prime man or played against undersize centers and pfs

[Clipper Nation]

CN with some truth for once, watching Shaq in his prime was like watching Tyson in the ring. It wasn't as graceful as Ali who is all technique like Duncan (though Duncan is more of the Larry Holmes of the NBA, legend and accomplished more than Tyson but no one gives a shit because he was super dull).

Shaq's offense was unstoppable, if I had to build a team around a prime Shaq or Hakeem, for only 1 playoff series, I'd go with Shaq. Even though Hakeem is a greater player and was one if not the most skilled overall C in NBA history he was stoppable. Shaq was unstoppable in his 3peat run.

Shit, I'd take peak Shaq over DK, never mind Hakeem. Shaq in his prime is the one guy who was literally unguardable by normal means. It's the reason why the hacking strategy exists. Only problem is that his peak was shorter than most superstars.

[Mori Chu]

Shaq's problem wasn't a lack of talent. It was a lack of effort. He let himself get fat and out of shape every offseason, didn't train hard, didn't rehab well from his various injuries. If basketball were the #1 thing he cared about, he would have ringed in 2004 and probably a few other years and also extended his career by several years. The evidence is the 2008-09 era when he was in Phoenix and actually got serious about his diet and training and had a good training staff, and miraculously he was an All-Star again. He could have done that for his whole career and dominated the entire NBA for 15 years, but he just didn't want to. He decided he would rather be a big fat clown and goof around than be one of the top 3-4 players in NBA history.

[Killakobe81]

what skills?

His cute turnaround shot that was not that far from the basket?

His shitty hook shot that couldnt be blocked because he had his elbow in the other center's nose?

Passing the ball while double teamed by midgets? omg that was so difficult

Despite all that, he still carried Kobe, that's how shitty Kobe was

Shit take. You managed to be wrong on both Shaq and Kobe pretty amazing, tbh

[testies]

Shaq is horribly overrated. There were literally zero good centers in that era apart from him. Not even in top10 all time

[Killakobe81]

Shaq is horribly overrated. There were literally zero good centers in that era apart from him. Not even in top10 all time

Now that's crazY talk.

[100%duncan]

How is Shaq overrated? :lol

The dude's peak is probably the greatest peak of all time.

[ambchang]

Saying Shaq isn't skilled is just horrible. Shaq was a fantastic passer off double teams in the low block, he had great foot work, had a nifty little jump hook, a great spin move, nice up and unders. Yes, he couldn't shoot outside of 10 feet, and he doesn't have great lateral quickness, he mails it in on defense during the regular season, and he was horrible in pick and roll defenses, but his offense was unstoppable.

Size alone didn't do squat for Benoit Benjamin and Stanley Roberts, athleticism didn't do anything for Stromile Swift. Shaq had talent.

[Horse]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2401254-vlade-divac-says-shaq-wasnt-talentedjust-strong-while-praising-boogie?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=cnn-sports-bin

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/323/206/32ddb22180d53b37204af66ebf10b26f_crop_north.jpg?w= 630&h=420&q=75

DeMarcus Cousins (http://bleacherreport.com/demarcus-cousins) is the type of player you can tie yourself in pretzels attempting to praise.
The Sacramento Kings center maneuvers his 6’11”, 270-pound frame with mind-boggling grace (https://vine.co/v/OVvFT2bX79T) while still managing to bludgeon you in the post for boards and putbacks. He’s a special talent, and people will go to great lengths expressing their appreciation for his abilities.

Enter Vlade Divac (http://bleacherreport.com/vlade-divac), NBA (http://bleacherreport.com/nba) myth and vice president of basketball and franchise operations for the Kings, who sort-of-kind-of threw Shaquille O’Neal under the bus while trumpeting praises for Cousins. In a recent interview with The Associated Press (h/t Ball Don’t Lie’s Eric Freeman (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/vlade-divac-says-shaquille-o-neal-was-really-strong--not-talented-020729398.html)), Divac placed O’Neal, now a minority owner of the Kings, in the box of artless enforcer while making the case for Cousins as the best big man he's ever laid eyes on.
“I’ve been in basketball a long, long time and I have to say [Cousins is] the most talented big guy I have ever seen,” Divac said. “Shaq wasn’t talented, he was just strong. I was talented, but I wasn’t strong.”

Divac continued to say O’Neal was “one of the most dominant players ever,” which he can attest to having banged bodies with the former Los Angeles Lakers center in the late 1990s and early 2000s while playing for the Charlotte Hornets and Sacramento Kings.

While Divac’s words may sound like unfair criticism (O’Neal had moves—many of them predicated on strength, but moves nonetheless), they were made as more of a broad-strokes argument for Cousins’ play than an intentional knock against O’Neal. Divac was the pinnacle of touch and cunning in big men, while O’Neal remains the golden standard of unstoppable forces in the post. Cousins blends these styles to terrifying results, which is Divac’s overarching message.

Of course, the 47-year-old Serbian clarified his thoughts on O’Neal by saying the dynamic between the two hasn’t changed from their playing days.
“He was always my boss,” Divac said.

He was always just the biggest kid on the block. The league could market him so he got away with murder.

[DMC]

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Terribly overrated

[Killakobe81]

How is Shaq overrated? :lol

The dude's peak is probably the greatest peak of all time.

It's arguable. MJ gets the nod still butShaq is definitely up there. Here is the counter argument. If your life depended on a game's outcome would you guys truly trust Shaq?

1. Ft's is one issue. Horry and Fisher (and occasionally Kobe) had to bail out those 3 peat Lakers with clutch baskets. Meaning a lot of those games were close. His FT shooting is a factor to consider.

2. I can recall at least 3 big playoff games that Shaq fouled out or were in serious foul trouble in during his peak. and that is just by memory I am sure there were more. The game in Indy is the most obvious ones but I also remember games in Sacto with the same issue.

3. Shaq was an intimidator and beastly playoff rebounder. When i check old boxscores or youtube clips I forget how much better Shaq was on defense when he gave a shit. But again, that's a problem ... Shaq's motor can run cold. Plus even at his best he was no elite big man defender.

Yes, peak Shaq is greater than Hakeem or duncan but I can count on both guys to play both ends. Plus, I can hardly recall either guy fouling out or being in serious foul trouble in any big playoff or finals games. Neither were horrid FT shooters (duncan has really improved) ... If i had only one game and needed a big Im taking one of those guys. Over a series I probably consider shaq because I think he wears down opposing bigs ... and his peak was the best ... of those 3.

Note: By the time I saw Kareem he was still great but I missed his peak ...

Just some balanced thoughts.

[Horse]

His athleticism and marketability are the only things that separate him from being Stanley Roberts, but Roberts had a better jumper.

[Horse]

You dumb nigga... Kobe didn't even need Shaq to beat Duncan. He took a scrub in Pau and damn there swept you clowns.

That was only due to Manu being hurt and the mysterious plane delay in New Orleans.

[Killakobe81]

His athleticism and marketability are the only things that separate him from being Stanley Roberts, but Roberts had a better jumper.

This place ...

Im old enough to remember watching them both at LSU. Yes Roberts had the better jumper and post-game but he was even more lazy than Shaq and had half the athleticism. Young shaq had the best size/strength/speed ratio of any NBA player I have ever seen only Lebron is close tbh ...

[Clipper Nation]

His athleticism and marketability are the only things that separate him from being Stanley Roberts, but Roberts had a better jumper.
Another take dripping in both shit and Krispy Kreme glaze.

[UZER]

Shaq was a beast, but...

1) he was allowed to just lower his shoulder and dislodge / charge into players holding their place and rarely g ot called for a foul

2) he would camp in the lane for way more than three seconds consistently and rarely got called for it.

Combine those two with his skill and he was unguardable.

[PingPong]

Wrong word? Shaq wasn't that skilled big man sounds better.

[lefty]

Shit take. You managed to be wrong on both Shaq and Kobe pretty amazing, tbh

:lol I struck a few nerves

[lefty]

Shaq was a beast, but...

1) he was allowed to just lower his shoulder and dislodge / charge into players holding their place and rarely g ot called for a foul

2) he would camp in the lane for way more than three seconds consistently and rarely got called for it.

Combine those two with his skill and he was unguardable.

Truth nukes

But shitty take according to Killakobe

[Killakobe81]

:lol I struck a few nerves

Bad takes are just bad. Maybe he is slightly overrated on here but horribly overrated is an exaggeration. Funny thing is some of the folks that overrate him most are Spurs fans. And some of the ones that underrate him most are Laker fans especially the Kobe first fans ...

[Infinite_limit]

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23
ORL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/1996.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1996.html)
C
12
12
38.3
10.9
18.0
.606
0.0
0.0

10.9
18.0
.606
4.0
10.2
.393
4.1
5.9
10.0
4.6
0.8
1.3
3.7
3.3
25.8


1996-97 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01/gamelog/1997/)
24
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1997.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1997.html)
C
9
9
36.2
9.9
19.2
.514
0.0
0.0

9.9
19.2
.514
7.1
11.7
.610
4.2
6.3
10.6
3.2
0.6
1.9
2.4
4.1
26.9


1997-98 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01/gamelog/1998/)
25
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1998.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1998.html)
C
13
13
38.5
12.2
19.8
.612
0.0
0.0

12.2
19.8
.612
6.2
12.2
.503
3.7
6.5
10.2
2.9
0.5
2.6
3.3
3.2
30.5


1998-99 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01/gamelog/1999/)
26
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1999.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1999.html)
C
8
8
39.4
9.9
19.4
.510
0.0
0.0

9.9
19.4
.510
6.9
14.8
.466
5.5
6.1
11.6
2.3
0.9
2.9
2.3
3.6
26.6


1999-00 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01/gamelog/2000/) ❍
27
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2000.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2000.html)
C
23
23
43.5
12.4
22.0
.566
0.0
0.0

12.4
22.0
.566
5.9
12.9
.456
5.2
10.3
15.4
3.1
0.6
2.4
2.4
2.9
30.7


2000-01 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01/gamelog/2001/) ❍
28
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2001.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2001.html)
C
16
16
42.3
11.9
21.5
.555
0.0
0.0

11.9
21.5
.555
6.6
12.5
.525
5.7
9.8
15.4
3.2
0.4
2.4
3.6
3.4
30.4


2001-02 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01/gamelog/2002/) ❍
29
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2002.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2002.html)
C
19
19
40.8
10.7
20.2
.529
0.0
0.0

10.7
20.2
.529
7.1
10.9
.649
3.5
9.1
12.6
2.8
0.5
2.5
3.3
3.3
28.5


2002-03 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01/gamelog/2003/)
30
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2003.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2003.html)
C
12
12
40.1
10.1
18.8
.535
0.0
0.0

10.1
18.8
.535
6.8
11.0
.621
5.3
9.6
14.8
3.7
0.6
2.8
2.9
2.8
27.0


Terribly overrated

Only 1 MVP award (2000)

[DMC]

Only 1 MVP award (2000)
Well there you go.

[Horse]

This place ...

Im old enough to remember watching them both at LSU. Yes Roberts had the better jumper and post-game but he was even more lazy than Shaq and had half the athleticism. Young shaq had the best size/strength/speed ratio of any NBA player I have ever seen only Lebron is close tbh ... I give him credit for being very athletic for a big. But he couldn't shoot played no D. Underwhelming rebounder for his size and was able to bulldoze his opponents. On top of that he's a piece of shit and the worst thing on tv.

[Red Hawk #21]

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[Thread]

He's still bitter over providing the assist on that Horry triple. I God's,,,the sound of that horn blaring as that shot comes in.