Avante: You A Backdoor Man?

[Buddy Mignon]

I sure am.

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[The Reckoning]

everyone here already knows you take it through the backdoor

[Avante]

Chester Burnett, yep, one of the greats. He first recorded at those same Sun Records studio in Memphis that Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis and Johnny Cash had, it was 1952. I have those recordings.

My fav Howlin' Wolf tune is "Little Red Rooster" a tune The Stones do a great cover of, just like The Doors do with "Backdoor Man". John Hammond also does a great take on that tune.

Burnett another of the those out of Mississippi who talks about Charley Patton, Son House, Robert Johnson as influenses. But he does remind you more of Bukka White.

The thing about them blues is how regional things were, you must put these guys in Memphis, Alabama, Texas, St.Louis, the Piedmont, Georgia and of course the Mississippi Delta (all of Mississippi is the Delta, ha~) simply because of the different styles. And the differences are real obvious.

Here's the Floyd in Pink Floyd, how they became aware of this guy who was pretty obscure even for them blues, ???? Pink Anderson more well known.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9SivL7ebg4

[Avante]

I'm going to take the 8 that best represent each region when it comes to them pre 1941 (prewar) blues. Then the 8 female/white cats that best represent them and those blues. Keep in mind these are those who are better known, with tons of shadowy characters only known by us geeks. Guys who cut one maybe a couple old 78's then....poof!

St.Louis

Roosevelt Sykes
Lonnie Johnson
Peetie Wheatstraw
Walter Davis
Charley Jordan
Henry Townsend
Hi Henry Brown
The Sparks Brothers

Georgia

Blind Willie McTell ....Bob Dylans fav bluesman
Buddy Moss
Charley Lincoln
Barbecue Bob...he was the brother of Charley Lincoln, the Hicks brothers.
Pegleg Howell
Williams & Anthony
Fred McMullen
Curley Weaver

The Piedmont (WV, Virginia, Ky, the Carolina's)

Blind Blake
Blind Gary Davis
Sonny Terry & Brownie McGee
Blind Boy Fuller
Blind Willie Walker
Julius Daneils
Josh White
Luke Jordan...the original "Cocaine Blues"

Texas

Blind Lemon Jefferson
Ramblin' Thomas
Funny Paper Smith
Texas Alexander
"Ragtime" Henry Thomas
Little Hat Jones
Blind Willie Johnson...more Gospel except for his amazing slide work.
Lead Belly...actually roamed between Louisiana and Texas. Born in La.

Alabama...the most primitive sound in them blues.

Ed Bell
Boweavil Jackson
Bullet Williams
Jaybird Coleman
Walter Roland
Sonny Scott
Edward Thompson
Daddy Stovepipe...one of the first men to record them blues, 1924.

Louisiana

King Solomon Hill
Jesse Thomas
Ed Shaeffer
Oscar Woods
Blind Willie Reynolds
Rabbit Brown...his "James Alley Blues" a must listen. Some debate over was he black or white.
Papa Charlie Jackson....he also recorded in 1924
Kid Stormy Weather

Memphis (all of Tennesse gets stuck here)

Jim Jackson
Sleepy John Estes
Furry Lewis
Frank Stokes
Gus Cannon Jug Band
Memphis Jug Baand
Jack Kelly's South Memphis Jug Band
Robert Wilkens

Mississippi Delta (Mississippi)

Charley Patton...has to be heard to be believed.
Robert Johnson...the greatest sound in the blues.
Tommy Johnson...he's the one (not Robert) who originated that "sold my soul at them crossroads" story.
Ishman Bracey
Son House
Big Bill Broonzy
Skip James...his "Devil Got My Woman" a must listen.
Bukka White

These guys don't really fit into any of those but must be mentioned.

Leroy Carr..his "How Long, How Long" as good as it gets.
Scrapper Blackwell....amazing guitarist, played with Carr
Tampa Red...fantastic guitar.
Georgia Tom Dorsey...played with Tampa Red, the father of Gospel Music.
Blackbottom McPhail...with Blackwell on guitar, wow!
Tommie Bradley

Female Blues

Ma Rainey
Bessie Smith
Victoria Spivey
Lucille Bogan..her "Shave Um Dry"..hahaha!!!!! Hows bout.."I got sumthing tween my legs, make a blind man cum, shave um dry"...ha!!!!!!
Ida Cox
Bessie Tucker
Memphis Minnie...the best female guitarist, big influense on Bonnie Raitt.
Lottie Beamon

Pale Face Blues

Jimmie Rodgers
Emmett Miller...his "Ghost of St.Louis" a must listen. Performed in black face like Al Jolson.
Frank Hutchison
B.F.Sheldon...all his songs have something to do with killing wimmen.
The Carter Family
Dock Boggs...the classic hillbillie with a banjo.
The Skillet Lickers
Dick Justice


This is the best example in my opinion of old antique/primtive blues.

Rube Lacy recorded but one record and it is a genuine classic. Then he dumped them blues for the ministry. Would end up way out here in near by Bakersfield. I was going to search him out and talk to an actual prewar Mississippi Delta bluesman, but he died before I did.

It does not get any better than this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj6wepE_NvY

[DJR210]

everyone here already knows you take it through the backdoor

From Kool

[Koolaid_Man]

From Kool


I love when bitches fuck my ass with their tongue....I've been getting ass tongue fucked for 15 yrs....and I'm straight as a fucking line...that shit feels amazing...when they lick your ass and balls all in one nice smooth motion....

I cant even lie on that shit...i bend my legs back to the head board like a bitch and let them lick away....sometimes I will get on my knees like a bitch face down ass up and let them eat out my black ass....hahaha....word is bond.....

[DJR210]

I love when bitches fuck my ass

:lol faggot

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol faggot

All bullshit aside dawg....you better get ass tongue fucked or you aint living life...make them bitches clean you out dawg..its a sensational feeling...i even had this one sexy brunette spit in my ass while she was going to town....i felt like a total bitch...it was amazing...ha ha

[TDMVPDPOY]

All bullshit aside dawg....you better get ass tongue fucked or you aint living life...make them bitches clean you out dawg..its a sensational feeling...i even had this one sexy brunette spit in my ass while she was going to town....i felt like a total bitch...it was amazing...ha ha

so what ur sayin is...u dont use toilet paper?

[Avante]

Above I talked about them old prewar blues, now this is about those who came later on, those who started out (made their mark) in the 40's and early 50's. The must listens.

Mercy Dee Walton
Sunnyland Slim
Muddy Waters...who was first recorded right there on his front porch at the Stovall Plantation in 1941. I have those recordings.
Big Boy Crudup..his "That's Alright Mama"...Elvis's first hit record.
Lightnin' Hopkins
Lowell Fulson
Charles Brown
Homesick James
Jimmy Reed
Sonny Boy Williamson II
John Lee Hooker
Howlin' Wolf
BB King
Little Walter
Buddy Guy
Junior Wells
Otis Spann
Docter Ross
Lightnin' Slim
Junior Parker
Amos Milburn
Big Joe Turner
Doc Clayton
Jazz Gillum
Washboard Sam
J.B.Hutto
Robert Pete Williams
Smokey Hogg
Frankie Lee Sims
Mance Lipscomb
Mississippi Fred McDowell
Otis Rush
Albert Collins
Freddy King

[Avante]

These are those shadowy characters I mentioned. None of them recorded more than a couple records. You won't find these guys in any book on them blues, yep, that unimportant. But, many of them were just as talented as the more well known who did record a lot.

Bo Jones
Otis Harris
Rube Lacy
Lane Hardin
Bobby Grant
Six Cylinder Smith
Sammy Hill
Freezone....one song
Jim Thmpkins...one song
Eli Framer
Marshall Owens
Mattie Delaney
Elvie Thomas
Pillie Bolling
John D. Fox
Mississippi Moaner
Alfred Lewis
Otto Virgial
Louis Laskey
Uncle Bub Walker
Charley Taylor
Will Batts
Will Weldon
Pearl Dickson
Tom Dickson
Bluecoat Tom Nelson
Alec Johnson
Blind Willie Walker
Tarter & Gay

[Avante]

I do get a kick out of our resident...."gotta act retarded, ACT RETARDED OK!!!!!!!!"

Poor little shits.

[Avante]

Ok, now that we know who is who....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1055UQ2LQTU

One of the great "post war" blues tunes.

That was around 1946, when BB King first recorded around 50 he did a cover of that. While I prefer the original, it was BB's cover that made the bigger impact.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPeTtg3fTB8

[Avante]

The Rolling Stones were knee deep into them blues. Brian Jones was obsessed with Delta slide master Elmore James. In his book Keith Richards talks about, partying all night at a Mississippi juke joint, him being the only white cat there and how he was in heaven.

Here they are covering a Howlin' Wolf classic.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJVeHKVcE8

Muddy Waters recorded "Rolling Stone" in 1950, this is where the Stones got their name. Not aware of the 1928 Robert Wilkins "Rolling Stone" a haunting masterpierce.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T2hygHu8CI


Elmore James



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKEdlSTHjtU

[Avante]

A haunting masterpiece


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hklKZHb-bc

This is where Elvis got it....




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7CfeFcZo2o


Check out the young Buddy Guy on guitar.

Mamie Smiths "Crazy Blues" in 1920 is considered to be the first blues recorded. And at first it was all about the ladies, backed by jazz bands or maybe a piano. In 1923 Slyvester Weaver recorded a guitar solo "Guitar Rag", he is considered the first male to record them blues. But when it comes to them "country blues" and some vocals with guitar, it all started with this guy. He was from Georgia and recorded but one record. In 1924 Papa Charley Jackson out of Louisiana also recorded and he was far far more successful so he falsely gets credit for being the first male to record them "country blues". But it was this guy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsB1FNiVbis

[Avante]

In 1941 Big Joe Williams recorded "Crawling King Snake" later in that year little known Tony Hollins also recorded it with the great Sunnyland Slim on piano. But it was John Lee Hooker who mde it famous in 1948.

Here The Doors take a stab at it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5cwmZxW0Jc

[Avante]

This guy another of those who walked into a recording studio (Sun Records Memphis) records a couple songs (yep, one record) then disappears never to be heard of again.

Both sides are great, a major talent here and he records one record, what a loss.

Early 50's.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tYY-pSmscA

Story goes she came out of Natchez Mississippi, but little is known about her other than she was the first great female blues guitarist. She did record before Memphis Minnie.

This is the high water mark when it comes to female blues with guitar, the pinnacle. She along with Elvie Thomas recorded three records, and while it's all good, this is the star of the show.

1930



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIsbDzMRTf0

Only a hand full of blues cats came out of Louisiana, there it was more about cajun and jazz, if there is a "great" prewar blues tune out of there, this would be it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKHkG0GxA0E

[Avante]

This is the best example of early Chicago blues.

Another haunting masterpiece.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSy8DtzhxHs

I own a dozen big books on them blues, have over 3000 blues CD's. Have read all the books and heard everyone mentioned above because I own most their stuff. It's just diffferent, so unique, unlike any other sound. Songs about trains, ice picks and razors, prison walls, poverty, mojos, wicked wimmen, moonshine, fucking. crossroads, cops, crooked deacons, it's all pretty cool actually. I mean when some old blind black man sings about how he better get indoors before it gets dark in Clarksdale Mississippi in 1929, he's serious. We can only find something like that with this music.

[Avante]

Keb Mo




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ZFg5-oaS0

[Avante]

Buddy Guy & SRV



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr-DVjbrMaM

[ohmwrecker]

I sure am.


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/Oggim4/bscap022.jpg

[Avante]

So many dumbass little kids here, wow!

Anyone here know any fucking thing about any fucking thing?

[Koolaid_Man]

So many dumbass little kids here, wow!

Anyone here know any fucking thing about any fucking thing?




I know you learned everything you know from little richard..

q6eV2EUxW8E

[Avante]

I know you learned everything you know from little richard..

q6eV2EUxW8E

Now if ya knew your shit you'd tell me who was his big influense? Here ya go little man, something only I can do.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E_tPkWFWgQ

[ohmwrecker]

^ That's relatively well-known information for people who are into music tbh.

[Avante]

^ That's relatively well-known information for people who are into music tbh.

I bet only you and me knew that "here", you disagree?

We don't see much depth "here" I'm sure you've noticed that.

[ohmwrecker]

I bet only you and me knew that "here", you disagree?

Probably.

[Avante]

Probably.

I could ask the question..."what Atlanta DJ was instrumental in getting Little Richards career started?"...and I gurantee you or anyone else here wouldn't have a clue.

[ohmwrecker]

I could ask the question..."what Atlanta DJ was instrumental in getting Little Richards career started?"...and I gurantee you or anyone else here wouldn't have a clue.

You're right. I don't know.

[Avante]

You're right. I don't know.

That would be WGST's Zenas Sears. He knew about Richard Perriman, so he talked to Steve Sholes about him, you do know who he is, right?

[ohmwrecker]

Yeah. I know who Steve Sholes is... I knew Little Richard got his break based on a radio performance in Atlanta, but I didn't know the dj.

[Avante]

Yeah. I know who Steve Sholes is... I knew Little Richard got his break based on a radio performance in Atlanta, but I didn't know the dj.

I have his very first recording right here in my hands, you'd never know it was Little Richard. The song is..."Get Rich Quick"....from 1951. I am talking on CD, wish it was the record.

The CD...That's All Right. Songs that shaped rock & roll, each song has a little story, yep, that's where I learned about all this.

I learned about Esquerita from "The Roots & Rhythm Guide to Rock.

[Avante]

Junior Wells my fav singer/harmonica man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47djAb6jVJk

Those white kids have no clue what the fuck is going on, hahaha!

[Avante]

So I find Judy in the bedroom watching Ghost, she loves that movie. I walk right in the middle of ...the scene....you know the one as Bobby Hatfield sings "Unchained Melody".

After the moment...

me...ya know that's actually an old song?
Judy...let me guess, an old blind black man wrote it in 1910, right?
me..cute! It was first recorded in 1954/1955.
Judy....really, so do you have it?
me...wish I did. Wanna hear it on youtube?
Judy...sure!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNj11dnFI68


Actually a whole gang of singers recorded the song (even Elvis) before The Righteous Brothers. But that version is considered the original.

[Avante]

This will be the start of a mix tape (tape deck in truck) I'll be recording later tonight. I'm looking for a mood, it's always about setting the mood. I do have a direction I'm going as you'll see.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gB72yVl80g





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4p0MaeSjJs





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O78Yfnqsr_A

[Avante]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41rkjxZlYwg

The Jayhawks
Shawn Mullins
Mac Gayden
this guy.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIn0jyG-MIA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3pltmw6cmI

[Avante]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11HvFmATeAk

Add some...

Leonard Cohen
Michael Younger
Teri Hendrix
Damien Rice
John Hiatt
Lucinda Williams
Shelby Lynne

There it is.