View Full Version : Jason Williams vs Tony Parker...
Duff McCartney
09-04-2005, 11:14 PM
I'm having an arguement with somebody on another board about this goon. This guy simply states that Jason Williams is gonna excel in Miami. I say he isn't because he makes stupid plays.
I personally don't think Williams is gonna make much of a difference in Miami. Considering that he would chafe Hubies/Fratellos ass when he'd run the fast break and just clank up a brick from 3 point range.
What are your thoughts?
Trainwreck2100
09-04-2005, 11:15 PM
I don't know.
BATTLE!!!
Sense
09-04-2005, 11:16 PM
Are you doing a Tony VS Jason thread or an opinion on Williams thread?
First of all, the guy doesn't have a winning attitude to begin with. Along that same lines, I think the whole team chemistry is kind of iffy (with him and A Walker). Second, the guy always seems to make bad decisions on the floor. Third, he's white. j/k.
Duff McCartney
09-04-2005, 11:33 PM
Are you doing a Tony VS Jason thread or an opinion on Williams thread?
Both.
hussker
09-04-2005, 11:34 PM
Spurs vs Anyone...who cares about one on one. Hoops is a team game!
Go Spurs Go!
IceColdBrewski
09-04-2005, 11:35 PM
Well, Paker commited more turnovers last year so I guess he has the advantage in the "stupid plays" department.
ducks
09-04-2005, 11:37 PM
Why Not Post Them So People Can Compare How Many They Had ?
IceColdBrewski
09-04-2005, 11:41 PM
Why Not Post Them So People Can Compare How Many They Had ?
http://www.nba.com/statistics/2004/default_regular_season_leaders/LeagueLeadersTOQuery.html?topic=0&stat=28
ducks
09-04-2005, 11:44 PM
15. Tony Parker (San Antonio Spurs)
80 2.69 215
34. Manu Ginobili (San Antonio Spurs)
74 2.32 172
HE COMMITS LESS THEN THE GREAT LEBRON JAMES :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant
ducks
09-04-2005, 11:46 PM
1. Allen Iverson (Philadelphia 76ers)
75 4.59 344
2. Dwyane Wade (Miami Heat)
77 4.17 321
3. Steve Francis (Orlando Magic)
78 4.06 317lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
4. Kobe Bryant (Los Angeles Lakers)
66 4.09 270
5. LeBron James (Cleveland Cavaliers)
80 3.28 262 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
IceColdBrewski
09-04-2005, 11:48 PM
15. Tony Parker (San Antonio Spurs)
80 2.69 215
HE COMMITS LESS THEN THE GREAT LEBRON JAMES :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant
We're not talking about Lebron James. We're talking about Jason Williams. Stick to the subject.
ducks
09-04-2005, 11:57 PM
I was just pointing out that he commits less then what some people think is a mvp canidate :rolleyes
IceColdBrewski
09-05-2005, 12:00 AM
I was just pointing out that he commits less then what some people think is a mvp canidate :rolleyes
Nice dodge.
dunkman
09-05-2005, 12:10 AM
The TO figures cant be analysed alone. Without knowing how many points the player makes (1 TO per each 10 points is not bad), how many assists (for point guards 2 assists per 1 TO is ok, 3:1 is better), how many steals has (the player intercepts the ball which counts as a steal but the ball goes out of bounds which count as TO - so 1 steal per TO is great), how many blocks...
Trainwreck2100
09-05-2005, 12:12 AM
Are you doing a Tony VS Jason thread or an opinion on Williams thread?
Not rapping ability????
:depressed
Sense
09-05-2005, 12:22 AM
Well, Paker commited more turnovers last year so I guess he has the advantage in the "stupid plays" department.
You forget Tony Parker started more games than Williams.
ZStomp
09-05-2005, 12:26 AM
Does it matter what anyone thinks?
Kori Ellis
09-05-2005, 01:05 AM
Jason Williams has improved a lot more than people think. He has a nice assist to turnover ratio and makes far less bonehead plays than he used to.
But I still like Tony Parker in the Spurs system.
Kori is correct, J-Will really turned it around under Hubie.
The only craziness in his game that is left is the pullup 3's.
DesiSpur_21
09-05-2005, 02:14 AM
The only craziness in his game that is left is the pullup 3's.
and he doesn't seem to respect/accept any system he plays for. That's a huge minus for him.
If you have an option to pick Tony or Jason, go ahead and pick Tony.
He respected and accepted Hubies system, did he not?
I know that Tony > JWill, but I'm just saying.
T Park
09-05-2005, 02:42 AM
Brewski at the ready for a bash Tony Parker subject.
SUPRISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not...
picnroll
09-05-2005, 07:45 AM
Well, Paker commited more turnovers last year so I guess he has the advantage in the "stupid plays" department.
How about posting their head to head numbers. You can start with the 2003 playoffs where Parker kicked Williams' ass to th bench and go from there every matchup since. Doubt you'll put those numbers up, eh.
Solid D
09-05-2005, 08:05 AM
When Williams changes his ways, then let's compare J-Won't with Parker.
Watson closed out Grizzlies games.
The Artest Factor
09-05-2005, 09:52 AM
This is a close one. Both players have such major flaws. Parker, with his poor distribution, poor defense, poor shooting, poor rebounding, and the fact that he disappears in big games. Jason Williams with his oor shot selection, poor attitude, and ocassionally risky passing.
I'd go with Jason Williams. He just brings more to the table than "One-Trick Pony" Parker.
Solid D
09-05-2005, 10:01 AM
Poor distribution and poor defense?
angel_luv
09-05-2005, 10:21 AM
So Jay went to Miami? I hope that works out for him.
usckk
09-05-2005, 10:22 AM
Haha, yeah. He went to Miami in a huge blockbuster trade.
Solid D
09-05-2005, 10:25 AM
So Jay went to Miami? I hope that works out for him.
Jay?
angel_luv
09-05-2005, 10:28 AM
Jay?
Nickname... I've always had a soft spot for JASON. :lol
The Artest Factor
09-05-2005, 10:39 AM
Wow, this guys way out of the loop. I believe he's referring to Jay (Jason) Williams, former Duke All-American.
The Jason Williams who went to Miami is the trailor trash Vanilla Ice wannabe formerly of the Grizzlies and Kings.
Solid D
09-05-2005, 10:57 AM
I think angel luv knows the difference, The Artest Factor.
Iron Giant
09-05-2005, 11:08 AM
I'd go with Jason Williams. He just brings more to the table than "One-Trick Pony" Parker.So does Steve Francis, but he wouldn't work in the Spurs' system either.
Make all the meaningless head-to-head comparisons you want. Whatever you may say about Parker, Bowen, or any other Spur....the rings are the only measure that matters. In fact, the rings are what bring you and every other troll to the board. Funny, huh?
Best I can tell, you argue stats mostly because your team hasn't yet accomplished anything that matters? I suppose if you have to hold onto something...
http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smielephant.gif
Solid D
09-05-2005, 11:49 AM
Jason was so difficult to defend one-on-one, the Lakers had to change their entire defensive strategy in order to swing momentum back their way...
No wait, that wasn't Jason, that was Tony Parker.
Trainwreck2100
09-05-2005, 11:51 AM
Jason was so difficult to defend one-on-one, the Lakers had to change their entire defensive strategy in order to swing momentum back their way...
No wait, that wasn't Jason, that was Tony Parker.
The Lakers changed their strategy with JWill. They saw how he played and figured he's best left unguarded.
Solid D
09-05-2005, 12:39 PM
Jason Williams vs Tony Parker?
More than likely, it will be a newly re-signed Damon Jones vs Tony Parker to start the game. :hat
angel_luv
09-05-2005, 07:15 PM
I think angel luv knows the difference, The Artest Factor.
I was thinking Jason Williams of the Grizzlies.
I know Jason has issues and I don't trust him to play for us.
Even so, there is something in me believes Jay has great potential. For that reason, I can't help but root for him.
angel_luv
09-05-2005, 07:16 PM
BTW
Tony Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jason Williams
Duff McCartney
09-05-2005, 07:20 PM
I was thinking Jason Williams of the Grizzlies.
I know Jason has issues and I don't trust him to play for us.
Even so, there is something in me believes Jay has great potential. For that reason, I can't help but root for him.
Potential? The guy has been in the league for what 7 years? The guy has no more potential. He's just not that great of a PG.
angel_luv
09-05-2005, 07:27 PM
Potential? The guy has been in the league for what 7 years? The guy has no more potential. He's just not that great of a PG.
With proper guidance and, most importantly, an attitude adjustment, Jason has the talent necessary to excel.
I really think being coached by Pop would do Jason a world of good.
But the Spurs don't need a project. Our roster is full of already great guys, which is as I would have it. = )
Duff McCartney
09-05-2005, 07:30 PM
Jason Williams isn't a project, that's how he's gonna be the rest of his NBA career. Period.
It's just hilarious hearing and seeing him after the games, the dude is definitely like Malibu's Most Wanted...a straight up wigger.
angel_luv
09-05-2005, 07:44 PM
Jason Williams isn't a project, that's how he's gonna be the rest of his NBA career. Period.
It's just hilarious hearing and seeing him after the games, the dude is definitely like Malibu's Most Wanted...a straight up wigger.
:lol I surrender!
1Parker1
09-05-2005, 08:40 PM
Jason Williams isn't a project, that's how he's gonna be the rest of his NBA career. Period.
It's just hilarious hearing and seeing him after the games, the dude is definitely like Malibu's Most Wanted...a straight up wigger.
:lmao @Malibu's Most Wanted. I had an image of Jaime Kennedy and Jason Williams hangin out together.
jermaine7fan
09-06-2005, 10:50 AM
Jason Williams has nothing on Tony Parker... white chocolate is wayyyyyy too hyped... If Damon Jones returns to Miami... I bet he takes the starting job from Williams by the all-star break.
samikeyp
09-06-2005, 10:54 AM
With proper guidance and, most importantly, an attitude adjustment, Jason has the talent necessary to excel.
I really think being coached by Pop would do Jason a world of good.
But the Spurs don't need a project. Our roster is full of already great guys, which is as I would have it. = )
Rarely do I disagree with the Angel, but here I will have to. Jason Williams will get you more highlights but TP will get you more wins. Wigga Chocolate will dazzle you until you get to crunch time, when that happens those and-1, professa, "im gettin my trailer park ass on tv" passes end up in the first row and he drops more bricks than Joe Pesci in "Home Alone". No thanks.
kskonn
09-06-2005, 11:05 AM
Jason was so difficult to defend one-on-one, the Lakers had to change their entire defensive strategy in order to swing momentum back their way...
No wait, that wasn't Jason, that was Tony Parker.
excellent point!!!
jochhejaam
09-06-2005, 11:17 AM
The Jason Williams who went to Miami is the trailor trash Vanilla Ice wannabe formerly of the Grizzlies and Kings.
Back! Crawl back under the rock from which ye came!
You exhibit the same intelligence as your thugs Ron Artesticle, Jermaniac O'Tool and Stephony Jackasson
travis2
09-06-2005, 11:24 AM
Rarely do I disagree with the Angel, but here I will have to. Jason Williams will get you more highlights but TP will get you more wins. Wigga Chocolate will dazzle you until you get to crunch time, when that happens those and-1, professa, "im gettin my trailer park ass on tv" passes end up in the first row and he drops more bricks than Joe Pesci in "Home Alone". No thanks.
I must disagree with you, my brother...you disseminate incorrect information...
It was Macaulay Culkin who dropped the bricks.
:)
samikeyp
09-06-2005, 11:29 AM
It was Macaulay Culkin who dropped the bricks.
You are correct sir...my apologies. :)
travis2
09-06-2005, 11:30 AM
Other than that major gaffe, you were right on target...
:lol
nkdlunch
09-06-2005, 02:31 PM
Jwill - looks like slim shady, Tparker - raps like slim shady
Jwill - trailer trash, Tparker - Eurotrash
Jwill - white chocolate, Tparker - likes Chocolat au'lait
TParker - dates Eva, Jwill - dated his cousin
TParker - gets high five from Duncan, White Chocolate- might get eaten by Shaq
http://www.nba.com/media/act_jason_williams.jpg
<GiG>That's not a towel on his head! It's a doo rag! </GiG>
Spurologist
09-06-2005, 04:41 PM
White Chocolate- might get eaten by Shaq
That's probably what will happen when he pulls up on the fast break.
td4mvp21
09-06-2005, 06:12 PM
http://www.nba.com/media/act_jason_williams.jpg
<GiG>That's not a towel on his head! It's a doo rag! </GiG>
:lol
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