Shoot the Gays Initiative

[Nbadan]

.....surprised boutons hasn't posted this.....or maybe he has...



http://cloudfront-assets.reason.com/assets/mc/_external/2015_03/ted-cruz.jpg
Sorry Wrong thread, did not mean to imply that Cruz is Gay...

Shoot the gays' initiative likely to be circulated
Source: San Francisco Chronicle


A Southern California attorney’s “shoot the gays” initiative is not destined to become law — for one thing, it’s clearly unconstitutional. But Attorney General Kamala Harris is scheduled to clear it for circulation in May, and she may not have any choice.

Matt McLaughlin, a lawyer from Huntington Beach in Orange County, paid his $200 filing fee Feb. 26 to submit the “Sodomite Suppression Act” to the voters. Declaring it is “better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God’s just wrath,” it would require that anyone who touches a person of the same gender for sexual gratification be put to death by “bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.”

The measure would also make it a crime, punishable by 10 years in prison and permanent expulsion from the state, to advocate gay rights to an audience that includes minors. It specifies that its constitutionality can be judged only by a state Supreme Court that has been purged of LGBT justices and their advocates. And it authorizes private citizens to step in as executioners if the state fails to act within a year. Another provision would require that the text of the initiative be posted prominently in every public school classroom.

... Once the sponsor has paid the required fee, state law directs the attorney general to prepare a title and a maximum 100-word summary of the initiative and forward it to the secretary of state for a 90-day period of public signature-gathering. The secretary of state’s website says Harris is scheduled to take those actions by about May 4. Does she have the power to refuse if the measure is patently unconstitutional? Harris isn’t saying; her office did not return repeated phone calls. But some veteran practitioners of election law said they don’t think so.

Read more: http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2015/03/18/shoot-the-gays-initiative-apparently-headed-for-circulation/


Yep....homegrown sharia law is okay..carry a cross, wrapped in the flag, armed to the teeth,,,,in the name of "God".....

[RandomGuy]

One has to wonder if that is a serious attempt.

[RandomGuy]

Hmm, mostly making the rounds on the liberal blogosphere, but seems real enough.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lawyer-proposes-california-ballot-measure-allowing-shooting-killing-gays-n327196

The ass hat in question is a California legislator.

[Nbadan]

Indiana Gov. Pence Signs Anti-Gay Religious Freedom Bill Into Law
Source: TPM



Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) did it. On Thursday, he signed a controversial religious freedom bill into law that protects business owners from being required to serve same-sex couples if they have religious objections.

Pence said signing the bill into law makes sure that "religious liberty" is completely protected in the state.

"The Constitution of the United States and the Indiana Constitution both provide strong recognition of the freedom of religion, but today, many people of faith feel their religious liberty is under attack by government action," Pence said in a statement.

A number of businesses strongly voiced opposition to the law. The large tabletop gaming convention Gen Con threatened to leave the state if Pence the bill, but is locked into a contract until 2020. Star Trek actor George Takei also warned that the law could result in a damaging boycott of the state.

-snip-

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/pence-signs-gay-marriage-religious-freedom-bill

[FromWayDowntown]

Pence this morning:

"I'm going to keep making it clear that I don't really understand the express scope of the law that I signed, but because you idiots out there have been hoodwinked into believing that it says precisely what it says and not what I say it says, I'm going to go ahead and have the law changed to take out the part that actually allows discrimination -- particularly against homosexuals -- even though I keep telling you that I'm completely against discrimination because I walked across a bridge in Selma one time."

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. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220853&p=7887990&viewfull=1#post7887990)..

[boutons_deux]

...

[boutons_deux]

Pence: Freedom of Religion Ends if We Can’t Discriminate Against Gays

It is legal in Indiana to discriminate against LGBT. Employers can fire LGBT workers on the “grounds” that they are LGBT with impunity. Indiana Governor Mike Pence has long made clear his desire to ensure that no laws restrict the ability to discriminate against gays. Indeed, in Penceland the “right” to discriminate against gays is a fundamental aspect of First Amendment “free expression” rights.

The problem here is that by extending the reach of federal law to cover sexual orientation, employment discrimination protections, in effect, can wage war on the free exercise of religion in the workplace.


Pence claims (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/03/29/us/ap-us-xgr-religious-objections-protest.html) that the fact that so many Americans oppose discrimination against gays proves that they – not the people that discriminate against gays – are the intolerant.

Pence addressed the critics Sunday, saying: “This avalanche of intolerance that’s been poured on our state is just outrageous.” Asked if he would be willing to add sexual orientation to the list of characteristics against which discrimination is illegal, he said, “I will not push for that. That’s not on my agenda, and that’s not been an objective of the people of the state of Indiana.”


Pence has emphasized in the last several days that he does not intend to provide any legal protections to LGBT against any form of discrimination.

Why Governor Pence Won’t Answer Questions About the Act Allowing Discrimination

Pence had a disastrous appearance on ABC (http://www.wsj.com/articles/indiana-governor-defends-religious-freedom-law-1427646320) in which he refused to answer the most basic question about the Act – six times (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/03/29/us/ap-us-xgr-religious-objections-protest.html) – would it allow a merchant to refuse services to LGBT. He did not answer the questions because he knew that if he did so he would have to admit that the Act was designed to allow merchants to discriminate against LGBT – and he knew that this was no longer acceptable among the majority of Americans and causes most young conservatives to roll their eyes about their parents’ obsession with gay bashing.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/03/bill-black-homophobic-law-indiana-governor-dares-not-speak-purpose.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capi talism%29

[boutons_deux]

Religious Protection Laws, Once Called Shields, Are Now Seen as Cudgels

When the federal government adopted a religious protection act in 1993, same-sex marriage (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/same_sex_marriage/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) was not on the horizon.

An informal coalition of liberals and conservatives endorsed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act because it seemed to protect members of vulnerable religious minorities from punishment for the exercise of their beliefs. The federal legislation was set off by a case in which two followers of the Native American church were fired and denied unemployment benefits because they took part in ceremonies with peyote, an illegal drug.

Twenty states, including Indiana last week, have since passed their own versions of religious freedom laws.

But over time, court decisions and conservative legal initiatives started to change the meaning of those laws, according to liberal activists. The state laws were not used to protect minorities, these critics say, but to allow some religious groups to undermine the rights of women, gays and lesbians or other groups.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/us/politics/religious-protection-laws-once-called-shields-are-now-seen-as-cudgels.html?_r=0

[boutons_deux]

Schumer: Stop Comparing Indiana's Religious Freedom Law To Mine

Schumer's full Facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/chuckschumer/posts/10153161618154407) is below:

In the uproar over the recently passed Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), defenders of the bill like Indiana Gov. Pence are trying to hide behind the argument that the law "simply mirrors" the federal RFRA Sen. Ted Kennedy wrote and I introduced as a Congressman in 1993. That may be true only if you're using a Funhouse mirror. In reality, it is completely false, and a disingenuous argument to boot; they should cease and desist immediately comparing the federal RFRA of 1993 to their present, misguided law.


There are two simple reasons the comparison does not hold water.


First, the federal RFRA was written narrowly to protect individuals’ religious freedom from government interference unless the government or state had a compelling interest. If ever there was a compelling state interest, it is to prevent discrimination. The federal law was not contemplated to, has never been, and could never be used to justify discrimination against gays and lesbians, in the name of religious freedom or anything else.


Second, the federal RFRA was written to protect individuals’ interests from government interference, but the Indiana RFRA protects private companies and corporations. When a person or company enters the marketplace, they are doing so voluntarily, and the federal RFRA was never intended to apply to them as it would to private individuals.


Because of these significant, legal differences, the Indiana RFRA in no way resembles the intent or application of the federal RFRA. As the signer of the bill, Governor Pence should put a stop to it immediately.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/schumer-religious-freedom-mike-pence?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

Indiana law is fast having ‘definite negative impact’ on tech

As it loses sponsors, organizers of Big Data event want lawmakers to make correction

Organizers of the upcoming Indy Big Data Conference (http://www.indybigdata.com/) are feeling the impact of the tech industry's anger over Indiana's new "religious freedom" law and want state lawmakers to correct the law -- quickly.


The Indy Big Data conference, set for May 7 and designed to focus on "mining big data for big profits," has been losing sponsors in flurry of activity.

"Over the past 48 hours we have had seven national sponsors back out of the Indy Big Data Conference 2015 as a direct result of the Religious Freedom Act," said Christine Van Marter, the CEO of Conference Ventures, in an email statement. "This law is having an immediate and definite negative impact on technology in the state of Indiana."

http://www.itworld.com/article/2904034/indiana-law-is-fast-having-definite-negative-impact-on-tech.html?phint=newt%3Ditworld_today&phint=idg_eid%3D997c2c0be180eb9bc32d6211712db4cb#t k.ITWNLE_nlt_today_2015-03-31

[boutons_deux]

CT has also banned all state employees to travel to IND on state expenses.

[boutons_deux]

GOP presidential candidates get behind Indiana's license-to-discriminate law (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/31/1374570/-GOP-presidential-candidates-get-behind-Indiana-s-license-to-discriminate-law)

“I think Governor Pence has done the right thing,” said Mr. Bush, who is expected to run for president in 2016. “I think once the facts are established, people aren’t going to see this as discriminatory at all.” [...]“There are many cases where people acting on their conscience have been castigated by the government,” Mr. Bush said. “This is really an important value for our country, in a diverse country,where you can be tolerant of people’s lifestyles but allow people of faith to exercise theirs.”

"Nobody is saying that it should be legal to deny someone service at a restaurant or at a hotel because of their sexual orientation. I think that's a consensus view in America," Rubio said on Fox News Monday. "The flip side is, should a photographer be punished for refusing to do a wedding that their faith teaches them is not one that is valid in the eyes of God?"

Ted Cruz (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/03/30/jeb-bush-defends-indianas-religious-beliefs-law/?_r=0):


“Governor Pence is holding the line to protect religious liberty in the Hoosier State,” Mr. Cruz said. “Indiana is giving voice to millions of courageous conservatives across this country who are deeply concerned about the ongoing attacks upon our personal liberties.”

Predictably, other potential candidates (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/03/31/gop-presidential-candidates-voice-support-for-indiana-law/) like Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Sen. Rick Santorum, and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson were firmly on Team Okay-to-Discriminate.

And Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker continued to be vague yet far-right in his issues positions, sending a spokesperson out to say that "As a matter of principle, Gov. Walker believes in broad religious freedom and the right for Americans to exercise their religion and act on their conscience" without quite directly addressing the Indiana law.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/31/1374570/-GOP-presidential-candidates-get-behind-Indiana-s-license-to-discriminate-law?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29# (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/31/1374570/-GOP-presidential-candidates-get-behind-Indiana-s-license-to-discriminate-law?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29#)

Repugs, the Party of Stupid, the Party of Hate, pandering to the Bible humping Christian Taliban.

[m>s]

Sounds good, they shouldn't be corrupting the young

[boutons_deux]

typical fatassed shit-for-brains Bible humpin Repug voter

Indiana Pizza Shop Vows Not to Serve Gay People, But Owner Insists 'We're Not Discriminating Against Anyone'

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/oconnor_indiana.jpg

“If a gay couple came in and wanted us to provide pizzas for their wedding, we would have to say no,” says Crystal O'Connor of Memories Pizza. [...]“We're not discriminating against anyone, that's just our belief and anyone has the right to believe in anything,” says O'Connor.


“I do not think it's targeting gays. I don't think it's discrimination,” says O'Connor. “It's supposed to help people that have a religious belief.”


Says the person who just announced her intent to discriminate against LGBT people because the law allows her to do so. It's supposed to help people who have a religious belief? What's it supposed to help them do? Discriminate—as you are so deftly showing.

“That lifestyle is something they choose. I choose to be heterosexual. They choose to be homosexual. Why should I be beat over the head to go along with something they choose?” says Kevin O'Connor.


http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/indiana-pizza-shop-vows-not-serve-gay-people-owner-insists-were-not-discriminating?akid=12963.187590.gDKpAh&rd=1&src=newsletter1034187&t=7

:lol SHIT FOR BRAINS! :lol

[Blake]

what gay couple would order pizzas for their wedding

[m>s]

Boutons you're heavily invested in this gay shit, got something to tell us?

[boutons_deux]

what gay couple would order pizzas for their wedding

Indiana rednecks? walmart people?

[HI-FI]

Boutons you're heavily invested in this gay shit, got something to tell us?
His fellow shills shoot loads in his mouth.

[DD]

:cryfags are people too:cry

[Blake]

Indiana rednecks? walmart people?

Yeah, i guess the law of averages says there's a Cletus and Jethro telling guests to bring their own 'shine to the wedding.

[boutons_deux]

Christ, Our Lord, God, and Savior, with NOT BE HAPPY

Indiana Bill Changes Would Prohibit Discrimination Based On Sexual Orientation (http://link.huffingtonpost.com/4cb49acab61807701f9bf35e2g9yu.btze/VR1GkEmOfOGR50Q7Bd925)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/02/indiana-religious-freedom-law_n_6992026.html?ir=Politics&utm_campaign=040215&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Alert-politics&utm_content=FullStory&ncid=newsltushpmg00000003

[boutons_deux]

Don’t Wreck Religious Liberty’s Brand

We are all obsessed with our brands these days, and no one more so than states competing fiercely for jobs and businesses. Some of them are quickly learning that being seen as anti-gay is dangerous to their images.

As controversy engulfed Indiana over its religious liberty law that would give legal recourse to those who discriminate against gays and lesbians, leaders of North Carolina, which has one of the most conservative state governments in the country, were getting cold feet about passing a comparable statute.

“I think we need to show that if we approve this bill, that it will improve North Carolina’s brand,” said Tim Moore, the Republican Speaker of the state House of Representatives. “Anything we do, we have to make sure we don’t harm our brand.” :lol

A new commandment now trumps some of the others: Thou shalt not spoil the brand.


Republican governor Pat McCrory went further the day before on a Charlotte radio show, saying that a religious liberty law “makes no sense.” He asked: “What is the problem they’re trying to solve?”

This turn of events is coming as a shock to opponents of gay marriage. They thought that moving the fight to the ground of religious liberty was a politically shrewd fallback position now that courts are ratifying marriage equality. In our rights-oriented country, the best way to push back against one right is to assert a competing one.

Conservatives have a fair claim up to a point — and now they have barreled past it. The legitimate argument is that the country has rapidly changed its mind on gay marriage even as many religious traditions continue to see homosexual behavior and same-sex marriage as sinful.

Most supporters of gay marriage are willing to acknowledge (and should) that the law cannot force religious denominations to participate in activities they regard as deeply wrong. Most marriage equality statutes have thus included broad exemptions. An objecting church, for example, cannot be forced to bless a same-sex union, nor can it be required to let its facilities be used to celebrate one. Those who want their faith communities to change their view of marriage have to work the matter out on the inside and not rely on the coercive power of the state.

But opponents of gay marriage wanted more. Going far beyond what the original Religious Freedom Restoration Act had in mind at the federal level, they want a baker to be able to refuse to confect a cake for the reception after the ceremonies and for a florist to decline to provide the bouquets.

Now, I truly doubt that there are a lot of gay couples who would give their wedding business to vendors who regard what they are doing as an abomination. As a Catholic, I might not be enthusiastic about having an anti-Catholic baker involved in my wedding festivities. Not every battle has to be fought, and I suspect that many same-sex couples will voluntarily turn to bakers and florists who can share in their joy and don’t have to be forced to come kicking and screaming to the party. Supporters of gay marriage are winning, so they should consider the virtue of graciousness toward those who still oppose it. This would be good for social peace. (excellent point: beat the intolerant, hating, lover of God with tolerance)

But consider my example: I do not think the law should give someone who sees the pope as the anti-Christ “religious liberty” grounds to use in justifying discrimination against me. Gays and lesbians are justified in feeling the same way. By taking reasonable religious liberty claims and then pushing and twisting them into a rationale for discrimination, opponents of gay marriage have picked a fight that will weaken religious liberty arguments overall.

Where would this end?

Carefully thought-through religious liberty exceptions make good sense. They involve balancing when it is appropriate to exempt religious people from laws of general application and when it doesn’t. But turning religious liberty into a sweeping slogan that can be invoked to resist any social changes that some group of Americans doesn’t like will create a backlash against all efforts at accommodating religion. Forgive me, but this is bad for the brand of religious liberty.

It is, however, entertaining to watch conservative politicians be jostled this way and that between their business constituencies who don’t want this kind of trouble and their supporters among social conservatives who insist upon it. They thought they had found a way around the country’s increasing openness to gay rights. They’re fretting about brands because they now know they were wrong.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/dont-wreck-religious-libertys-brand/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=MM_frequency_six&utm_campaign=Morning%20Memo%20-%202015-04-02

Branded Hate(c) ! Christ(c)! :lol

[cantthinkofanything]

why would gays want pizza served to them by someone that doesn't like gays? Will there be a follow up law that prohibits the gays from being smarmy to the pizza people when they are forced to deliver pizza to the gays?

it's all fucking insane.

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it's all fucking insane.

Religion fucks up societies. Where has religion solved any country's problems, advanced human society? (the religionists who landed at Plymouth Rock were already authoritarian, nasty, persecuting assholes)

[cantthinkofanything]

Religion fucks up societies. Where has religion solved any country's problems, advanced human society? (the religionists who landed at Plymouth Rock were already authoritarian, nasty, persecuting assholes)

Do you think gayness is helping to solve the world's problems?

[Blake]

Do you think gayness is helping to solve the world's problems?

Gayness isn't hurting anyone. But religion is.

[boutons_deux]

Do you think gayness is helping to solve the world's problems?

LGBT is harmless, doesn't exist to solve any problems, it's just there, and esp harmless compared to the millennia of religious murders, wars, genocide (sanctioned in the Bible), blocking human progress (aka Dark Ages).

[cantthinkofanything]

Gayness isn't hurting anyone. But religion is.


LGBT is harmless, doesn't exist to solve any problems, it's just there, and esp harmless compared to the millennia of religious murders, wars, genocide (sanctioned in the Bible), blocking human progress (aka Dark Ages).

Grown naked male perverts dressing like women so they can be in the changing room with little girls.

[m>s]

Gayness isn't hurting anyone
it is, it's destroying societal cohesion.

[boutons_deux]

Grown naked male perverts dressing like women so they can be in the changing room with little girls.

that's nothing, also EXTREMELY RARE, compared to border police and cops raping suspects or just any lady they find, men planting cameras in girls dressing rooms, creeps with upskirt cams, etc, etc.

[Blake]

Grown naked male perverts dressing like women so they can be in the changing room with little girls.

That's not being gay, that's being a pedo.

[Blake]

it is, it's destroying societal cohesion.

Neh. If anything, it would be the religious members of society that aren't adhering to the tenets of true societal cohesion.

[cantthinkofanything]

that's nothing, also EXTREMELY RARE, compared to border police and cops raping suspects or just any lady they find, men planting cameras in girls dressing rooms, creeps with upskirt cams, etc, etc.

I don't know. Do you have any stats?

[m>s]

Nope it's a mentally Ill minority trying to upset the norm

[cantthinkofanything]

That's not being gay, that's being a pedo.

It's the "T" in LGBT.

[Blake]

Nope it's a mentally Ill minority trying to upset the norm

Lol ur posts r funny

[Blake]

It's the "T" in LGBT.

Except you tied a pedo purpose to it

[m>s]

Lol ur posts r funny
hide cuck threads, ignore cuck posts, do not reply to cuck posters

[boutons_deux]

I don't know. Do you have any stats?

nope, it's your claim, you back it up.

[cantthinkofanything]

Except you tied a pedo purpose to it

No different than you tying Christians to Muslims.

[boutons_deux]

Pat Robertson tells anti-LGBT pizza shop owners to shut up: This is about ‘cake-bakers’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Pat-Robertson-800x430.png

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/pat-robertson-tells-anti-lgbt-pizza-shop-owners-to-shut-up-this-is-about-cake-bakers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol

PR is right down there with Jerry Fallwell as idiotic Christian hater scammer.

[Ignignokt]

If boutons refuses to bake a bagel from his Einshekelbaum Bakery to a White nationalist convention, i don't see a problem with the bill.

[boutons_deux]

Ted Cruz: Banning Anti-Gay Discrimination In Public Services Like Forcing A Rabbi To Eat Pork


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-cruz-banning-anti-gay-discrimination-public-services-forcing-rabbi-eat-pork

[boutons_deux]

Georgia florist’s religious hypocrisy: She’ll serve adulterers, but gay couples are ‘a different kind of sin’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/georgia-florists-religious-hypocrisy-shell-serve-adulterers-but-gay-couples-are-a-different-kind-of-sin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Religion makes you stupid, ignorant, hating.

[cantthinkofanything]

Georgia florist’s religious hypocrisy: She’ll serve adulterers, but gay couples are ‘a different kind of sin’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/georgia-florists-religious-hypocrisy-shell-serve-adulterers-but-gay-couples-are-a-different-kind-of-sin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Religion makes you stupid, ignorant, hating.




who gives a shit who she serves. If she wants to be a dumb bitch and not sell her products for some absurd reason, then let her. In the end, a more efficent buisness person will fill the need.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In backlash to Indiana law, an astonishing reversal in American politics

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2015/0401/In-backlash-to-Indiana-law-an-astonishing-reversal-in-American-politics-video

[Blake]

hide cuck threads, ignore cuck posts, do not reply to cuck posters

Whatever helps you heil Hitler

[m>s]

Lmao that's really telling me

[Clipper Nation]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Where's the outrage from the libs - shouldn't these bakeries be getting closed down right now from the backlash?

[boutons_deux]

“Cake is speech.”

That’s what Indiana Baptist pastor Tim Overton told NPR’s Steve Inskeep (http://www.npr.org/2015/04/02/396976011/baptist-pastor-religious-liberty-law-permits-denial-of-some-services) Thursday morning, defending his state’s controversial “religious freedom” law. I thought it was so funny, I immediately tweeted it.

But as the day went on, it became clear that Overton’s argument wasn’t some fringe theory: It’s shaping up as a core tenet of one “compromise” approach to religious freedom laws that’s under consideration, in the wake of the backlash to the Indiana law, which Overton fervently supported as written. It’s at the heart of the fix to the law Jeb Bush pushed Wednesday night with pro-gay rights Republican donors (http://www.salon.com/2015/04/02/jeb_caves_to_rich_donors_why_hes_spinelessly_backt racking_on_the_indiana_law/).

Here’s how the pastor tried to explain it: Critics who say Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act would let businesses routinely deny service to LGBT Americans are wrong. “I don’t think any RFRA anywhere would say, ‘I’m not gonna give you a hotel room, I’m not gonna give you a hamburger, or gasoline or groceries,’” Overton told Inskeep. “That’s outside the bounds.” WTF?

But just as a religious leader should be able to decide, according to the tenets of his or her faith, whether to preside over gay marriages, Overton argued, so should a florist or a baker get to decide whether his or her “artistic ability” should be part of a gay wedding.

I think most Americans would agree that a pastor like myself should not be compelled by the government to use my speech to support someone else’s perspective. I think that has parallels to the cake maker. The cake maker is using his or her artistic ability to make a cake and that cake communicates something. I think that cake is speech, that says ‘we celebrate this union.’ I just don’t think they should be forced by the government to use their speech to support someone else’s perspective….I would like the line to be drawn in services that involve speech.


http://www.salon.com/2015/04/03/the_rights_cake_insanity_you_wont_believe_how_its_ trying_to_deflect_the_indiana_backlash/

Right wing/Christian Taliban "logic" justifying their hate! :lol


The text on the cake would be the "speech" of the LGBT people, not of the cake baker.

And why not deny a hotel room to an LGBT couple? You would expect them to go in their and commit Biblical sins, right?

"pastor like myself should not be compelled by the government" but the pastors want to compel GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS to deny evolution "speech" and compel the teaching of creationist fairy tales.

[Blake]

Lmao that's really telling me

its all i feel like telling you. You're just here fir the zingers.

[TheSanityAnnex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Where's the outrage from the libs - shouldn't these bakeries be getting closed down right now from the backlash?

Not surprised in the least all of the liberals have ignored your post. It would be nice to see this get some National exposure. Always enjoyed Crowder's videos, you a member where you found the video or just a lurker?

[Clipper Nation]

I had never heard of Crowder before, but I came across it on Twitter and thought it was worth posting, tbh. And not a surprise that boutons_shill is pretending it's not there.

[boutons_deux]

Newspaper Front Page Shames North Dakota Lawmakers Over Anti-Gay Vote


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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/the-forum-shames-north-dakota-lawmakers-lgbt-vote?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[Blake]

What do you guys want to see here? The muslim bakeries are wrong too.

[boutons_deux]

Damn the repercussions, Maine lawmaker forges ahead with 'right to discriminate' bill (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/03/1375357/-Damn-the-repercussions-Maine-lawmaker-forges-ahead-with-right-to-discriminate-nbsp-bill)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/03/1375357/-Damn-the-repercussions-Maine-lawmaker-forges-ahead-with-right-to-discriminate-nbsp-bill?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Where's the outrage from the libs - shouldn't these bakeries be getting closed down right now from the backlash?It's not against the law. I'm not sure why folks want to pass laws explicitly saying that.

As for why no outrage, I'll actively not buy a cake at that shop. Does that help you?

[TheSanityAnnex]

What do you guys want to see here? The muslim bakeries are wrong too.

I'd like to see a gay couple sue a Muslim bakery and see which side the libs would support.

[Nbadan]

In a masterpiece of moronic mixed metaphors, Glenn Beck announced today on his radio show that gay rights activists are building a Nazi regime while wearing the robes of the Inquisition that will lead to a Christian Holocaust.

This is what happens when you throw a bunch of ridiculously extreme right wing memes in a blender and set it on “purée.”

In other Glenn Beck news, the raving freakazoid nut sandwich also announced that tomorrow he’ll be interviewing gay “liberal” pundit Glenn Greenwald.

And the Mighty Greenwald has already responded to those who have the temerity to criticize him for this, by comparing himself to President Obama being interviewed by Bill O’Reilly, and calling his critics “absolute idiots.” That’s how the Mighty G rolls.

Read more at http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article

[Nbadan]

Bigoted Pizzeria Owners Go Into Hiding With $500,000 in Donations

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The owners of Memories Pizza, the Indiana restaurant that preemptively refused to cater a hypothetical gay wedding, have reportedly gone into hiding after receiving a barrage of online criticism and, more importantly, over $500,000 in donations from supposedly like-minded bigots.
Indiana Pizzeria Takes Brave Stand of Denying Gays Pizza for Weddings

Crystal O'Connor of Memories Pizza in Walkerton, Indiana, has her finger on the pulse of what… Read more

Earlier this week, Crystal O’Connor and her father, Kevin, who co-own the pizzeria, made it very clear that their restaurant supported Indiana’s new Religious Freedom Restoration Act, in part because it allows them to avoid catering gay weddings.

“That lifestyle is something they choose,” Kevin told ABC57. “I choose to be heterosexual. They choose to be homosexual. Why should I be beat over the head to go along with something they choose?”

The online blowback to their stupidity was immediate and overwhelming, and the pizzeria temporarily closed its doors yesterday as a response. Good!

http://gawker.com/bigoted-pizzeria-owners-go-into-hiding-with-500-000-in-1695481600

[Nbadan]

The fund is at $750,000 now....

http://www.gofundme.com/memoriespizza

[Clipper Nation]

LOL at handwaving away the death/violence threats they actually received as mere "criticism" and then applauding it. Gawker is shameless.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The fund is at $750,000 now....

http://www.gofundme.com/memoriespizza

Not a bad pay out for death threats.

[ChumpDumper]

I'd like to see a gay couple sue a Muslim bakery and see which side the libs would support.What law would the bakery be breaking?

[Nbadan]

LOL at handwaving away the death/violence threats they actually received as mere "criticism" and then applauding it. Gawker is shameless.

The threats may or may not be real, but the money that these bigots are getting is very real...

[TheSanityAnnex]

What law would the bakery be breaking?
Not sure what Michigan's laws are I assume it would be no different than the ruling against Melissa's

[ChumpDumper]

Not sure what Michigan's laws are I assume it would be no different than the ruling against Melissa'sYou would assume wrong.

[Blake]

I'd like to see a gay couple sue a Muslim bakery and see which side the libs would support.

why does it matter

[Nbadan]

Huckabee: Gay-Rights Movement 'Won't Stop Until There Are No Churches'
Source: TPM


Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) said on Wednesday that gay-rights activists wouldn't be satisfied until there are no more churches or Christians in America.

“It won’t stop until there are no more churches, until there are no more people who are spreading the Gospel,” Huckabee said on a right-wing radio program while discussing the backlash against anti-gay religious-freedom legislation in Arkansas and Indiana.

"I’m talking now about the unabridged, unapologetic Gospel that is really God’s truth," he said.

Huckabee made the remarks during an appearance on the conservative Family Research Council radio program “Washington Watch with Tony Perkins." Earlier in the program, he accused critics of the legislation of engaging in "true discrimination" and seizing on a "manufactured" crisis.

Listen below via Right Wing Watch:

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mike-huckabee-gay-no-churches

[Clipper Nation]

why does it matter
If it matters when it's a Christian business, then I don't see how it wouldn't matter just as much with a Muslim business.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You would assume wrong.

Because of Michigan's laws?

[TheSanityAnnex]

why does it matter

It would be entertaining.

[ChumpDumper]

Because of Michigan's laws?Because there is no such state law in Michigan.

[ChumpDumper]

It would be entertaining.That would be a pretty easy choice if the law was the same.

The big question would be if the Muslims get the same support "no pizza for teh gheys" are from the right.

[boutons_deux]

http://images.dailykos.com/images/133325/large/cottonball.jpg?1426006681

"But I also think it's important that we have a sense of perspective about our priorities. In Iran, they hang you for the crime of being gay."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/02/1375087/-Sen-Tom-Cotton-says-cheer-up-at-least-we-re-not-executing-gay-people?detail=email

[ChumpDumper]

"We would love to be able to kill the gays (again), but baby steps."

[Blake]

That would be a pretty easy choice if the law was the same.

The big question would be if the Muslims get the same support "no pizza for teh gheys" are from the right.

That

[Nbadan]

Breaking: UConn Coaches Won't Travel to Indianapolis for Final 4 Due to Religious Freedom Bill
Source: NBC News


@BreakingNews: UConn coaches won't travel to Indianapolis for Final 4 due to new religious freedom bill, school says - @PaulDoyle1 https://t.co/2l3DpltByS/s/l_6y

University of Connecticut coaches won't travel to Indianapolis for Final 4, school says, due to new religious freedom bill; 'UConn is a community that values all of our members and treats each person with the same degree of respect, regardless of their background and beliefs and we will not tolerate any other behavior' - @PaulDoyle1

Read more: https://www.breakingnews.com/topic/indianas-religious-freedom-restoration-act/

[ChumpDumper]

If UConn was playing in the tourney you bet your ass they would be there.

[Clipper Nation]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Where's the outrage from the libs - shouldn't these bakeries be getting closed down right now from the backlash?
Looks like this struck a nerve with the liberals, since they're trying to bury it with spam.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Because there is no such state law in Michigan.

Then it would be fun to see the same scenario play out in Oregon with a Muslim bakery.

[ChumpDumper]

Looks like this struck a nerve with the liberals, since they're trying to bury it with spam.Two of the "liberals" addressed it directly.

It's not difficult.

[TheSanityAnnex]

That would be a pretty easy choice if the law was the same.

The big question would be if the Muslims get the same support "no pizza for teh gheys" are from the right.
I don't think the financial support was for no pizza for the gheys but rather that they were threatened with violence so much they had decided to close their business.

[ChumpDumper]

Then it would be fun to see the same scenario play out in Oregon with a Muslim bakery.Well it's against the law there. It's pretty clear.


I don't think the financial support was for no pizza for the gheys but rather that they were threatened with violence so much they had decided to close their business.So no actual violence.

Nice payday tbh.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Well it's against the law there. It's pretty clear.Yes, and I'd be very interested to see how the liberal media would treat the Muslim bakery. Do you believe they be portrayed the same as Melissa's?




So no actual violence.

Nice payday tbh.Very nice payday.

[Blake]

Then it would be fun to see the same scenario play out in Oregon with a Muslim bakery.

I really can't imagine anyone feeling sorry for the muslims.

Including right wing conservative Christians that have been donating to their fallen bakery comrades.

[Blake]

Looks like this struck a nerve with the liberals, since they're trying to bury it with spam.

Lol this is Rush.s comment on it:

"............ And everybody's asking, where's the outrage? I'm so glad you brought this up, because, see, it's not about that. You would expect that if there's anti-gay bigotry, there's anti-gay bigotry, wherever it is, it's unacceptable. And so Crowder just found some anti-gay bigotry in Dearbornistan, Michigan, Muslim bakery. Well, you see, Muslims -- (interruption) Dearbornistan, it's a joke. Yes, it's Dearbornistan. Everybody in Michigan calls it that. This is just lighthearted jocularity. Don't panic in there.This makes a great point. You see, folks, this isn't about anti-gay bigotry. If it were, there would be just as much outrage at this Muslim bakery, but they don't care. The Drive-Bys, the militant gays, they don't care. They went shopping for this in Indiana. They went shopping for it. They went shopping for it New Mexico. They went shopping for it in Oregon. They went shopping for it in Colorado.

.......... The first thing you've got to know, all of this, in Indiana, this is not about discrimination against gays. They want you to think it is, and the action being taken, the outrage, the media, this is not about expanding gay rights, it's not about eliminating discrimination, that's not at all what's going on here. This is an all-out assault on Christianity, traditional value Americans and so forth and so on. It's all about attacking and delegitimizing a so-called dangerous mean-spirited extremist majority made up primarily of Christians.This is an attack on Christianity. They don't care what the Muslims are doing. They don't care that there's anti-gay bigotry in Dearborn, Michigan. Doesn't matter. It's not about that. This is not about gay rights. It's not about civil rights.*....."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/04/03/where_s_the_outrage_muslim_bakeries_in_michigan_re fuse_to_bake_cakes_for_gay_weddings

[Blake]

Lol the ol ulterior motive

[Clipper Nation]

I really can't imagine anyone feeling sorry for the muslims.
So the left is full of anti-Muslim bigots?

[Blake]

So the left is full of anti-Muslim bigots?

I think it's more full of pro gay rights activists. But make your own conclusions.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, and I'd be very interested to see how the liberal media would treat the Muslim bakery. Do you believe they be portrayed the same as Melissa's?How is THE MEDIA portraying these poor victims?


Very nice payday.Wouldn't be surprised if they just made it up.

Nice payday for future victims as well.

[boutons_deux]

Tom Cotton Says Discrimination Is All Relative As Long As Hanging Is Not Involved

Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas, pen-pal to the mullahs and unrequited love object (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2012/12/05/tom-cotton-no-ordinary-freshman-congressman/)of Jen Rubin, has an interesting Hot Politix Take (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/04/02/3642060/senator-says-critics-indiana-get-perspective-thankful-state-doesnt-execute-gays/) on the outbreak of Fabulous Crow laws aimed at codifying discrimination against our fellow citizens who happen to be L, G, B, or T. He shared it with the nation via CNN.

"I think it's important we have a sense of perspective," Cotton said. "In Iran, they hang you for the crime of being gay."


By the interesting big-brain logic on display here, Martin Luther King, Jr. needed "a sense of perspective" because, in South Africa, they would have shot him long before anyone in America got around to it.


Like his role models, Cotton has the potential to do big things in Congress at a time when bombast often substitutes for smarts and ego trumps common sense.

How do you like your blue-eyed boy now, Ms. Death?

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a34095/tom-cotton-says-be-grateful-youre-not-dangling-from-a-lamp-post/

[Slutter McGee]

Are gay rights advocates fucking retarded? Honestly. I support gay rights. You want to get married fine. You want to adopt kids, fine. I will support yall on most shit. Hell the majority of republicans under 30 support you. But you keep pulling all this bullshit that negates the gains you have made.

1. Who the hell cares if a religious person doesn't want to make you a wedding cake. People believe you live a life of sin and don't want to contribute to that. Who cares. It is a far different than being born with a different skin pigment. Stop fucking with religious beliefs and you will get even more people to accept gay marriage. CS Lewis argued that marriage under the law is different than marriage under God. Many Christians can accept equal legal rights for you. Stop trying to force them to make wedding cakes with two fucking men on it.

2. Boys have a penis. Girls have a vagina. Who knew that the stupid Kindergarten fucking Cop line would be so relevant. Shut up about the gender neutral bullshit. If Bob grows up and wants to be Sally, then fine, I will call him Sally. Shit, I will even refer to the person with a feminine pronoun. But stop pretending that dressing little boys in fucking dresses is a cool thing to do. Ernest Hemingway blew his head off with a shotgun because of it.

You people are like the goddamn Sea-hawks. You have the game won, but you insist on passing the damn ball to make some sorta stupid political point.

Slutter McGee

[angrydude]

Are gay rights advocates fucking retarded? Honestly. I support gay rights. You want to get married fine. You want to adopt kids, fine. I will support yall on most shit. Hell the majority of republicans under 30 support you. But you keep pulling all this bullshit that negates the gains you have made.

1. Who the hell cares if a religious person doesn't want to make you a wedding cake. People believe you live a life of sin and don't want to contribute to that. Who cares. It is a far different than being born with a different skin pigment. Stop fucking with religious beliefs and you will get even more people to accept gay marriage. CS Lewis argued that marriage under the law is different than marriage under God. Many Christians can accept equal legal rights for you. Stop trying to force them to make wedding cakes with two fucking men on it.

2. Boys have a penis. Girls have a vagina. Who knew that the stupid Kindergarten fucking Cop line would be so relevant. Shut up about the gender neutral bullshit. If Bob grows up and wants to be Sally, then fine, I will call him Sally. Shit, I will even refer to the person with a feminine pronoun. But stop pretending that dressing little boys in fucking dresses is a cool thing to do. Ernest Hemingway blew his head off with a shotgun because of it.

You people are like the goddamn Sea-hawks. You have the game won, but you insist on passing the damn ball to make some sorta stupid political point.

Slutter McGee

The reason 95% of them are gay (or at least the super vocal ones) is because they have some sort of emotional problem or are crying out for attention. It's never going to stop.

The Left has turned bitching into a career for these folks.

[ChumpDumper]

The reason 95% of them are gay (or at least the super vocal ones) is because they have some sort of emotional problem or are crying out for attention. It's never going to stop.:lmao

[m>s]

^thats pretty smug, where did you gain such confidence on the subject?

[angrydude]

^thats pretty smug, where did you gain such confidence on the subject?

Don't you ever talk to gay people? Pretty self evident.

[m>s]

Don't you ever talk to gay people? Pretty self evident, though I admit it's based on my own experiences.
No I dont, and I was talking to cumdumpster. He acted like it was laughable to such a degree that only a gay would know

[Buddy Mignon]

:lmao

The moment I saw the title of this thread I knew you'd be in here carrying the Fag Flag.

[ChumpDumper]

^thats pretty smug, where did you gain such confidence on the subject?


Don't you ever talk to gay people? Pretty self evident.


No I dont, and I was talking to cumdumpster. He acted like it was laughable to such a degree that only a gay would know


The moment I saw the title of this thread I knew you'd be in here carrying the Fag Flag.:lol

[Malik Hairston]

The moment I saw the title of this thread I knew you'd be in here carrying the Fag Flag.

:lmao..

[Malik Hairston]

No I dont, and I was talking to cumdumpster. He acted like it was laughable to such a degree that only a gay would know

:lmao watch out, he might report you like he's known to do, tbh..

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao watch out, he might report you like he's known to do, tbh..Known by whom?

[boutons_deux]

Indiana Hires Fancy PR Firm To Help It Rebrand As NOT The God-Hates-Fags State

?http://wonkette.com/582679/indiana-hires-fancy-pr-firm-to-help-it-rebrand-as-not-the-god-hates-fags-state

[spursncowboys]

There exact words were "I have no problem with gay people but I would feel uncomfortable doing a wedding"
Such bigots! Stone them!

[spursncowboys]

ChumpDumper Do you believe that all gays are all born gay?

[ChumpDumper]

ChumpDumper Do you believe that all gays are all born gay?Dudes -- pretty much.

Women -- not always.

I also don't think it matters that much.

What do you believe?

[boutons_deux]

Christian Bakers Blame Satan When Crowdfunding to Pay for Discrimination Fine Gets Shut Down

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/satan.jpg

GoFundMe shut down a fundraiser created by anti-gay Christian bakers in Oregon after they raised approximately $110,000 to pay for a court ordered fine, the Gaily Grind (http://www.thegailygrind.com/2015/04/25/gofundme-cancels-anti-gay-bakers-fundraiser-after-raising-110k-bakers-blame-satan/) reports.

Aaron and Melissa Klein, the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa, were fined $135,000 on Friday by an Oregon court because they refused to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple who planned on tying the knot.

Following the verdict, the bakers set up a GoFundMe page and shared the link with their Facebook friends and followers. In just four hours, the campaign raised approximately $20,000. Within a day — as the total climbed to nearly $110,000 — GoFundMe canceled it, saying that the fundraiser violated Oregon law and was therefore
in violation of the website’s Terms and Conditions.

“The money raised thus far will still be made available for withdrawal,” said GoFundMe in a statement.

http://www.alternet.org/christian-bakers-blame-satan-when-crowdfunding-pay-discrimination-fine-gets-shut-down

Da debbil made 'em do it.

Christians are so childishly simple-minded, believing whatever shit their grifter pastor tells them, and just keep sending him those checks.

[Blake]

But God's power conquers det devil


Samaritan’s Purse is raising funds to help the Kleins pay their fine and meet other expenses. “They have taken a stand for the Word of God, and they should not have to stand alone,” Samaritan’s Purse President Franklin Graham said. “I believe that Christians across our nation will rally around Aaron and Melissa and their five children.“Please pray for Aaron and Melissa, and pray for our nation. When our judges are punishing Christians for practicing what they believe, that’s persecution, plain and simple.”If you want to help Aaron and Melissa and other Christians deal with blatant discrimination, make a donation to our “Persecuted Christians—USA” fund below...

http://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/christian-couple-faces-135000-fine/