Did ww3 just begun?

[m>s]

Saudi arabia attacking Yemen now

[m>s]

Begin*

[SnakeBoy]

no

[Infinite_limit]

That sound you hear is Putin laughing at Western sanctions failing

[m>s]

I'm hearing unconfirmed reports that two Saudi jets were downed by AA fire

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UNITED_STATES_YEMEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-25-19-49-42

[m>s]

Chechens to arm mexico in hopes of reigniting territorial disputes in the southwest


http://www.rferl.mobi/a/united-states-ukraine-russia-mexico-arms-/26921256.html

[Spurs da champs]

I wonder what Iran's response to this would be? Didn't they almost intervene the 1st time Saudi Arabia did this?

[m>s]

Would? We are about to find out

[Spurs da champs]

Given the U.S support of the Saudi led intervention, you also gotta wonder how this effects the nuclear negotiations with Iran...

[boutons_deux]

See the Yemen thread, Iran's allies are working over Yemen.

[pgardn]

That sound you hear is Putin laughing at Western sanctions failing

What?

[Wild Cobra]

Wow... You skinheads have it wrong.

Yemen is beginning a civil war. The Saudi's are just helping the legitimate government fight the aggressors. Unlike what we did in Libya, we helped prolong a civil war by helping take out the legitimate leader.

Props to the Saudi's!

Fuck Obomba.

[CosmicCowboy]

Wow... You skinheads have it wrong.

Yemen is beginning a civil war. The Saudi's are just helping the legitimate government fight the aggressors. Unlike what we did in Libya, we helped prolong a civil war by helping take out the legitimate leader.

Props to the Saudi's!

Fuck Obomba.

hmmm. You realize that the previous ruler was overthrown in the Arab Spring, right? "Legitimate" government might be an oversimplification. Probably a better description would be "government most aligned with Saudi and US interests".

[Infinite_limit]

What?
The Ruble is back after oil prices surged.

[Wild Cobra]

hmmm. You realize that the previous ruler was overthrown in the Arab Spring, right? "Legitimate" government might be an oversimplification. Probably a better description would be "government most aligned with Saudi and US interests".

No, I didn't know that. Maybe he isn't a ruler in our interest then, but in the interest of people like Obomba...

[pgardn]

The Ruble is back after oil prices surged.

So invest there.
Now.

Hop on that Russian Economic Locomotive.
Jesus...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That sound you hear is Putin laughing at Western sanctions failing

I actually only smell the stink of traitors who support the enemy.

[Infinite_limit]

So invest there.
Now.

Hop on that Russian Economic Locomotive.
Jesus...
I'm all about BRICS. The happiest moment of my life will be when the petrodollar collapses and the entire World will rejoice

[Infinite_limit]

I actually only smell the stink of traitors who support the enemy.
I'm White so obviously I'm siding with Russia

[ChumpDumper]

It's fun to see how subservient Iinfinite is to Russia but shouldn't be a surprise.

[Infinite_limit]

It's fun to see how subservient Iinfinite is to Russia but shouldn't be a surprise.
We are not only White but also Slavs. What do I have in common with American culture?

[ChumpDumper]

We are not only White but also Slavs. What do I have in common with American culture?You're right, Poland has always been completely dominated by Russia and if it wants to continue to be Russia's bottom bitch, that is their choice. In that, it has nothing in common with the US.

[Wild Cobra]

I actually only smell the stink of traitors who support the enemy.

You mean like Obama?

Like or dislike Putin, he should be respected for his leadership in world matters.

[ChumpDumper]

You mean like Obama?

Like or dislike Putin, he should be respected for his leadership in world matters.You'll break out the knee pads for anyone.

[Infinite_limit]

You're right, Poland has always been completely dominated by Russia and if it wants to continue to be Russia's bottom bitch, that is their choice. In that, it has nothing in common with the US.
You think putting up some missile shields and buying some pointless American military weapons will stop future conflicts? Polska is a fraction of the size of Russia, and further pissing them off is counter productive. A War between Russia & West results in Poland being obliterated into pieces.

Why is Czech and Hungary staying quiet in all this? The West and EU know how they are manipulating Poland and how easy it is to do. They appoint Tusk some pointless European Council position for the EU and then didn't even invite Poland to the Ukraine negotiations? What a western puppet bitch. Poland should be firmly in the middle benefiting from both sides and I hope this occurs in the next 10 years as EU funds to Poland start to end.

Polands best bet is the Visegrad Group: Czech, Hungary and Slovakia. With more cooperation with Serbia and the nations East & NorthEast of Poland. For Poland, everything West of Germany should be viewed as pointless and counterproductive.

[ChumpDumper]

Backwards tribal thinking.

Just roll over and be Russia's bitch. You love it.

[Infinite_limit]

Backwards tribal thinking.

Just roll over and be Russia's bitch. You love it.
Because the West will attack Russia if they were to invade ala Western Betrayal in WW2? Don't see the West doing much against Russia at the moment for invading Ukraine except pointless sanctions.

The time has come for Slavs to wake up. Eventually the Russianphobe population will die out in Poland just like it is occurring in America. Fighting Russians while White regions are under attack by outsiders. WTF

[ChumpDumper]

lol

[m>s]

I actually only smell the stink of traitors who support the enemy.
Russia isn't my enemy they're white

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are great at pointing out the obvious, nazis.

So is Putin now your white messiah of the race war you've been pining for, my nihilist dimwits?

:lol 2 guests wonder what that is.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Theodoric and his successors settled and dominated the Rhineland during the various migrations in the late roman period. They were not the slave colonies of the east. If you are trying to hand wave at the caucuses like so many racist dimwits then it is important to remember that people had been coming out of the steppes for thousands of years until the Mongols wiped them out up through Kiev. Mongols were the masters of genocide and they are all gone.

So are you guys going to be German or you going to cling to the northern tribes the mongols missed? If anything Theodoric and the first reichers got his slaves from Rus. If you're trying to have it both ways then your race baiting has officially devolved into "I'm with whitey" and I bet you are a bunch of mutts like the people you despise.

[m>s]

You are great at pointing out the obvious, nazis.

So is Putin now your white messiah of the race war you've been pining for, my nihilist dimwits?

:lol 2 guests wonder what that is.
Nice try kike, the millennials arent going to go kill eachother off in another white on white war to appease the jews. Good luck fighting a war without meat for the grinder count me out. All these fucking be@ners can go fight to earn their citizenship.

[m>s]

Theodoric and his successors settled and dominated the Rhineland during the various migrations in the late roman period. They were not the slave colonies of the east. If you are trying to hand wave at the caucuses like so many racist dimwits then it is important to remember that people had been coming out of the steppes for thousands of years until the Mongols wiped them out up through Kiev. Mongols were the masters of genocide and they are all gone.

So are you guys going to be German or you going to cling to the northern tribes the mongols missed? If anything Theodoric and the first reichers got his slaves from Rus. If you're trying to have it both ways then your race baiting has officially devolved into "I'm with whitey" and I bet you are a bunch of mutts like the people you despise.

lol so I guess nobody is really white after all and we should all just go die for shekels, nothing worth living for I guess

























nice try kike

[Wild Cobra]

You'll break out the knee pads for anyone.

I would think your knees have already toughened up to where you don't need them!

[m>s]

Faggot fight!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lol so I guess nobody is really white after all and we should all just go die for shekels, nothing worth living for I guess

nice try kike

Kike, isn't that a jew? So now I'm jewish. Great. Shalom puto.

Well thank you for sparing us a google sophist session. You don't know shit about the history of European populations. Supporting Hitler and the Rus. What a tool.

[Winehole23]

this makes the second time in a few months that m>s has declared the start of WWIII. last time it was Ukraine.

[m>s]

Future Historians will look back and probably refer to the syrian conflict as the beginning point of ww3..it's happening fellas nothing but steady escalation

[CosmicCowboy]

Future Historians will look back and probably refer to the syrian conflict as the beginning point of ww3..it's happening fellas nothing but steady escalation

i don't think it will be WWIII. WE don't have the US, Soviet, Chinese surrogate countries involved like we would have in the cold war past. These Islamic nutters are in a class of their own.

[Infinite_limit]

i don't think it will be WWIII. WE don't have the US, Soviet, Chinese surrogate countries involved like we would have in the cold war past. These Islamic nutters are in a class of their own.
Look at leadership. Where are the Hitler's, Stalin's, Churchill's, Musslouni's, Franco's, and Hirohito's?

The only strong current day leader is Putin

[boutons_deux]

i don't think it will be WWIII. WE don't have the US, Soviet, Chinese surrogate countries involved like we would have in the cold war past. These Islamic nutters are in a class of their own.

An all-M/E-countries War would have World Wide effects from the loss of oil.

btw, if Iran agreement is signed, Iran apparently is ready to dump a few 100M barrels of oil on the world.

[m>s]

You're kidding right? The west is fighting a proxy war with Russia right now in the ukraine, north Korea is looking for any excuse to invade the south, our sunni allies including Saudi arabia are launching air strikes against Shia militias in Yemen who are backed by Iran (who is backed by russia and syria)

this has all of the ingredients to blow sky high

[boutons_deux]

Oil dives 5 percent as worries about Iran talks trump Yemen

Oil tumbled 5 percent on Friday, erasing the previous session's gains, as Yemen's conflict looked less likely to disrupt Middle East crude shipments and investors turned their focus to talks for a potential Iran (http://www.reuters.com/places/iran) nuclear deal that could put more supply on the market.

Oil prices still notched their second straight weekly gain, boosted by the dollar's weakness in recent sessions. U.S. crude had its biggest weekly gain in more than a month.

U.S. crude and global benchmark Brent oil spent most of the session in a tight range, down about 2 percent. But they fell sharply in late trading.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/27/us-markets-oil-idUSKBN0MN05220150327?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

[CosmicCowboy]

You're kidding right? The west is fighting a proxy war with Russia right now in the ukraine, north Korea is looking for any excuse to invade the south, our sunni allies including Saudi arabia are launching air strikes against Shia militias in Yemen who are backed by Iran (who is backed by russia and syria)

this has all of the ingredients to blow sky high

if anything Iran's closest ties are to China and those are just economic. Russia doesn't love muslims. They have their own problems with them.

[boutons_deux]

Russia doesn't love muslims

but Syria has been a Russion protege, loaded with Russian military equipment, Russian people stationed there.

[m>s]

if anything Iran's closest ties are to China and those are just economic. Russia doesn't love muslims. They have their own problems with them.
You're missing the point, iran and russia are allied because of geopolitical reasons. They practically almost share a border, separated by only puppet states. And Shia led syria blocked a pipeline proposal by Qatar to sell oil and gas to Europe to protect Russia's economic interests. The russian/Shia alliance is a strong one and it makes sense.

[Infinite_limit]

You're missing the point, iran and russia are allied because of geopolitical reasons. They practically almost share a border, separated by only puppet states. And Shia led syria blocked a pipeline proposal by Qatar to sell oil and gas to Europe to protect Russia's economic interests. The russian/Shia alliance is a strong one and it makes sense.
Also, except for Turkey the Iranian women are the class of the Middle East

[m>s]

Aa a matter of fact syria rejecting that proposed pipeline is the reason why they funded the movement to try to oust assad. Russia drew the line there and told us to fuck odf before we could bring them "democracy" Lmfao

[CosmicCowboy]

Also, except for Turkey the Iranian women are the class of the Middle East

Agreed. Iranian women for the most part are freaking hot. Those good pure Persian genes and healthy diets...not many piggies.

[CosmicCowboy]

Aa a matter of fact syria rejecting that proposed pipeline is the reason why they funded the movement to try to oust assad. Russia drew the line there and told us to fuck odf before we could bring them "democracy" Lmfao

Yeah, that "red line" faded pretty fast didn't it?

[pgardn]

You're missing the point, iran and russia are allied because of geopolitical reasons. They practically almost share a border, separated by only puppet states. And Shia led syria blocked a pipeline proposal by Qatar to sell oil and gas to Europe to protect Russia's economic interests. The russian/Shia alliance is a strong one and it makes sense.

Yes.

Im sure we can count on Russia's full support of Islam. Iran is also very Westernized in the younger folks. Sometimes alliances depend on more than just current economic realities. But of course you still comingle Russia with Nazis, so I guess it's tough.

The one thing you do right is kayak fish. If only it would clear your head.

[m>s]

Unconfirmed reports that the iranian and Egyptian navies just exchanged fire wow

[m>s]

Yes.

Im sure we can count on Russia's full support of Islam. Iran is also very Westernized in the younger folks. Sometimes alliances depend on more than just current economic realities. But of course you still comingle Russia with Nazis, so I guess it's tough.

The one thing you do right is kayak fish. If only it would clear your head.


Yeah I go kayaking all the time, hunting my limit of sandbass right now

[lefty]

WW3 has been going on since 1945

It's just a different kind of war

[Infinite_limit]

WW3 has been going on since 1945

It's just a different kind of war
USA

1946: 65%+ of global wealth. White and safe
2015: China's bitch. Brown and ghetto


WTF happened

[z0sa]

If you want to be honest with yourselves, the West has set it up so that WW3 wont directly include the Americas... most likely will be the asian nations blowin eachother to bits with fallout coming our way.

[boutons_deux]

If you want to be honest with yourselves, the West has set it up

If you want to pull your head out of your ass...

West didn't set up anything up.

US/UK lied their way into Iraq for oil, and now the planet lives with the ongoing, no-end-in-sight disaster, killing 100Ks more innocent victims, Ms more refugees, than "bad man" Saddam ever did.

Thanks, Repugs!

[CosmicCowboy]

naa...hot spot for the foreseeable future is going to be the ongoing Shia-Sunni religious cleansing. Seems like those fuckers are never going to figure out how to live peacefully with each other. The artificial international borders laid down by the Europeans when the Ottoman Empire was dismantled after WWI left too many countries with mixed populations where whichever sect grabbed power discriminated against the other one leaving a situation where there are always millions of pissed off people no matter who is in power. The US will continue to support the Sunni so we can always be assured that there will be millions of Shia that hate us too. That's why so many people are pissed that Obama is giving the farm away in negotiations with Iran and giving them a path to nukes...

Putin will probably back off in the Ukraine once he gets his land bridge to Crimea.

North Korea is a joke. China is not gonna let that dumbass kid get too far out of line. Their economic goals for world power outweigh their loyalty to the fatboy. They know if Korea turns into a big shooting war and they support the north they will lose big time no matter which side wins in Korea.

[boutons_deux]

"Obama is giving the farm away in negotiations with Iran and giving them a path to nukes..."

... yep, true if you believe Repug/Fox LIES

And who is USA to dictate who has nukes and who doesn't?

[boutons_deux]

CC, do you support neocon nutcase Bolton's plan this week to stop Iran negotiations, bomb Iran, and force a regime change? We know that's always surefire solution.

[CosmicCowboy]

"Obama is giving the farm away in negotiations with Iran and giving them a path to nukes..."

... yep, true if you believe Repug/Fox LIES

And who is USA to dictate who has nukes and who doesn't?




Most rational people understand that throwing the nuke match into the gasoline religious/political mess that is the middle east is a bad idea.

[CosmicCowboy]

CC, do you support neocon nutcase Bolton's plan this week to stop Iran negotiations, bomb Iran, and force a regime change? We know that's always surefire solution.

Carrot and stick only works if there is a stick. Do I support blowing up iran's nuke program? I'm honestly not sure. I consider this Arab coalition formed to fight the Iranian influence in Yemen to be an incredibly positive step. If it reaches a point where there is a collective "WE" coalition in the Middle East against Iran it will make military action a lot more palatable.

[m>s]

Kike, isn't that a jew? So now I'm jewish. Great. Shalom puto.

Well thank you for sparing us a google sophist session. You don't know shit about the history of European populations. Supporting Hitler and the Rus. What a tool.>dogs diverged from wolves 14,900 years ago.
>Initial studies conducted in 1993 on the mtDNA of extant canid species indicated a very close relationship between gray wolves and dogs, with as little as 0.2% divergence.
>additionally, dogs and gray wolves have as little as 0.04 genetic distance FsT


>It is believed that Homo erectus evolved into Homo heidelbergensis and subsequently Homo neanderthalensis in Paleolithic Europe, before being replaced by modern humans migrating out of Africa approximately 50,000 years ago.
>the genetic distance of a Nigerian and German is 0.133 FsT

>4 out of 5 cultural anthropologists disagreed with the statement "there are races in the human species" in a 1999 study
>16% of biologists, 36% of developmental psychologists, and roughly 0% of forensic anthropologists disagreed with the same statement

>study examined 77 college textbooks in biology and 69 in physical anthropology published between 1932 and 1989. Physical anthropology texts argued that biological races exist until the 1970s, when they began to argue that races do not exist. In contrast, biology textbooks did not undergo such a reversal but many instead dropped their discussion of race altogether. The authors attributed this to biologists trying to avoid discussing the political implications of racial classifications, instead of discussing them, and to the ongoing discussions in biology about the validity of the concept "subspecies".
> "the idea that race is only skin deep is simply not true, as any experienced forensic anthropologist will affirm" said George W. Gill PhD., "widely recognized as an expert in skeletal biology"
>cultural anthropologist C. Loring Brace stated that identifying an african skeleton as black is ... socially constructed and not scientifically valid

remember, races don't real and there's no agenda.

[boutons_deux]

Most rational people understand that throwing the nuke match into the gasoline religious/political mess that is the middle east is a bad idea.

After the USA's surprise nuclear slaughter of 100Ks of non-white, non-Christian Japanese civilians, Mutual Assured Destruction has worked everywhere. The Mullahs are not stupid, not suicidal.

[pgardn]

>dogs diverged from wolves 14,900 years ago.
>Initial studies conducted in 1993 on the mtDNA of extant canid species indicated a very close relationship between gray wolves and dogs, with as little as 0.2% divergence.
>additionally, dogs and gray wolves have as little as 0.04 genetic distance FsT


>It is believed that Homo erectus evolved into Homo heidelbergensis and subsequently Homo neanderthalensis in Paleolithic Europe, before being replaced by modern humans migrating out of Africa approximately 50,000 years ago.
>the genetic distance of a Nigerian and German is 0.133 FsT

>4 out of 5 cultural anthropologists disagreed with the statement "there are races in the human species" in a 1999 study
>16% of biologists, 36% of developmental psychologists, and roughly 0% of forensic anthropologists disagreed with the same statement

>study examined 77 college textbooks in biology and 69 in physical anthropology published between 1932 and 1989. Physical anthropology texts argued that biological races exist until the 1970s, when they began to argue that races do not exist. In contrast, biology textbooks did not undergo such a reversal but many instead dropped their discussion of race altogether. The authors attributed this to biologists trying to avoid discussing the political implications of racial classifications, instead of discussing them, and to the ongoing discussions in biology about the validity of the concept "subspecies".
> "the idea that race is only skin deep is simply not true, as any experienced forensic anthropologist will affirm" said George W. Gill PhD., "widely recognized as an expert in skeletal biology"
>cultural anthropologist C. Loring Brace stated that identifying an african skeleton as black is ... socially constructed and not scientifically valid

remember, races don't real and there's no agenda.

If you go this way to try and assign inferior genes to human genetic variations be ready for some huge disappointment.
Its clear that whiter skinned Europeans made a number of different moves north from Africa from what we know at present. You may find that if you were a part of a later European move North, you will have more in common with a black African than another European. People think that "creation" of human geographic variants is straightforward and sequstered and has only become complicated recently thru planes, trains, etc... which allow for mixing. This is clearly NOT true as of today.

The different migrations out of Africa heading North, and the subsequent paler skin that goes with it occurred many, many times. So good luck making clear partitions in Europe and migrations by ships to the Americas etc... You are going to find some unpleasant surprises that don't fit your notions once we get even more info on this.

[Infinite_limit]

Most rational people understand that throwing the nuke match into the gasoline religious/political mess that is the middle east is a bad idea.
Israel has them. So it's already too late

[FuzzyLumpkins]

>dogs diverged from wolves 14,900 years ago.
>Initial studies conducted in 1993 on the mtDNA of extant canid species indicated a very close relationship between gray wolves and dogs, with as little as 0.2% divergence.
>additionally, dogs and gray wolves have as little as 0.04 genetic distance FsT


>It is believed that Homo erectus evolved into Homo heidelbergensis and subsequently Homo neanderthalensis in Paleolithic Europe, before being replaced by modern humans migrating out of Africa approximately 50,000 years ago.
>the genetic distance of a Nigerian and German is 0.133 FsT

>4 out of 5 cultural anthropologists disagreed with the statement "there are races in the human species" in a 1999 study
>16% of biologists, 36% of developmental psychologists, and roughly 0% of forensic anthropologists disagreed with the same statement

>study examined 77 college textbooks in biology and 69 in physical anthropology published between 1932 and 1989. Physical anthropology texts argued that biological races exist until the 1970s, when they began to argue that races do not exist. In contrast, biology textbooks did not undergo such a reversal but many instead dropped their discussion of race altogether. The authors attributed this to biologists trying to avoid discussing the political implications of racial classifications, instead of discussing them, and to the ongoing discussions in biology about the validity of the concept "subspecies".
> "the idea that race is only skin deep is simply not true, as any experienced forensic anthropologist will affirm" said George W. Gill PhD., "widely recognized as an expert in skeletal biology"
>cultural anthropologist C. Loring Brace stated that identifying an african skeleton as black is ... socially constructed and not scientifically valid

remember, races don't real and there's no agenda.

I like the broken english at the end.

Nice bait and switch too.

We have also talked about what you are bringing up here before. There is genetic homogeneity in isolated populations and then there is your ignorance. You can wave your hands at the 19th century schism in the British Royal Society's anthropologists between Shaw without a hint of historical context as is usual with your ignorant ass.. When we discovered DNA and the nature of gene expression, phrenology was seen for the ignorance that it was. Thus SCIENCE textbooks were updated with the new empirical evidence.

[TDMVPDPOY]

looks like saudis are bombin yemen to get rid of evidence

move on along, nothing to see here...

[m>s]

The broken English was on purpose Ya tard. It's how someone who holds your views would speak. There is more genetic difference between races than there are between different dog breeds. No one argues those don't exist it's hypocrisy.

[The Reckoning]

will be fun to see what happens with the middle east when we no longer need their oil

[TDMVPDPOY]

will be fun to see what happens with the middle east when we no longer need their oil

those rich oily arabs already spread or diversify their investments...

its the common person will suffer, but those clowns dont g ive 2shits about the common person anyway

[boutons_deux]

Arab Nations to Form Military Force to Counter Iran and Islamist ExtremistsThe Arab states said on Sunday that they had agreed to form a combined military force to counter both Iranian influence and Islamist extremism, a gesture many analysts attributed in large part to their drive for more independence from Washington.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/30/world/middleeast/arab-leaders-agree-on-joint-military-force.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Seems like they are SUNNI Arabs to counter SHIITES. (Iranians aren't Arabs)

[pgardn]

will be fun to see what happens with the middle east when we no longer need their oil

Maybe something like the Congo.

5 million people have died there. The large powers have basically stayed out and have let Africa handle it. This is the largest number dead in ANY war since WWII.

Boots won't mention this place because it does not involve the US and oil, so blame it on Africa's inability to control conflict does not fit the theme.

5 million people, more than any other since WWII. What's the lesson (I ask the board)?

[boutons_deux]

Boots won't mention this place because ....

:lol pgardn really, really butthurt AND a mind reader of The Great Boutons' Great Mind! :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol pgardn really, really butthurt AND a mind reader of The Great Boutons' Great Mind! :lol

Well you are definitely running away from his actual arguments. The megalomaniac is a rank intellectual coward.

[boutons_deux]

Well you are definitely running away from his actual arguments. The megalomaniac is a rank intellectual coward.

pgardn has an "argument" :lol to run away from?

[pgardn]

pgardn has an "argument" :lol to run away from?

Fish on.

By far the worst conflict in the world lacks the involvement of any powerful countries. And it continues in the eastern part of the Congo. What lessons should we, the U.S., have learned about this conflict?

Tell us o great one.
What should we have done if anything, to help prevent the deaths of 5.4 million people, the worst human disaster since WWII?

Since all these conflicts involve The US and oil, let's examine by far the worst. Go.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

pgardn has an "argument" :lol to run away from?

He's been trying to talk about West Africa for some time now and you won't even engage at the most basic level. Yes, you are an intellectual coward who relies on meme's and oversimplifications like VRWC to understand the world.

[boutons_deux]

I don't have to ENGAGE with anybody.

Fuzzy is butthurt, too. Continue with sterile debates over trivial bullshit.

[pgardn]

I don't have to ENGAGE with anybody.

Fuzzy is butthurt, too. Continue with sterile debates over trivial bullshit.

Of course you don't.

5.4 million people killed in by far the most serious conflict to humanity at present, and it's trivial because the US is not involved.
There is no oil, big company, Us is fucked and unfuckable line, so you can't process a really horrible disaster, it fits none of your major themes. Therefore it is of little consequence to you.

[pgardn]

will be fun to see what happens with the middle east when we no longer need their oil

And I posited The Congo... perhaps?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The broken English was on purpose Ya tard. It's how someone who holds your views would speak. There is more genetic difference between races than there are between different dog breeds. No one argues those don't exist it's hypocrisy.

:lol Abandoning the textbook stupidity already and moving on are we?

:lol Different people have more heterogeneity than animals that have been line bred for centuries? Wow such insight! Who would have ever thought that systematic incest would lead to homogeneity? You clearly have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Youre still stupid enough to think you are homogenous to Central European haplogroups using skin color as the marker? :lol

So in review: the self styled German Nazi is looking to the race war of the Russians to bring about the race Armageddon he so hopes for. You then forgot about the discovery of DNA and gene expression and cried about the textbooks from before said discoveries. And finally because you see yourself as different in the same manner that breeds of dogs are different then that somehow justifies all your nonsense.

Throw out more random trivia from your worldview. It's an interesting study of delusion.

[m>s]

Who said anything about skin color? That's the biggest straw man ever, yeah race is really just skin deep. Never mind that you can determine someone's race by a simple DNA test.

[spursncowboys]

America's foreign policy should always be to work towards people being able to exercise their god given rights.
Furthermore we should always fight to keeping dictators from getting a nuke. By force should always be on the table.

[m>s]

the U.S. government doesn't get to determine who's good or bad, who is allowed to do this or that etc. They've already abused that right too many times. They said assad was satan now they don't want him gone. They don't even know what the fuck they're doing half the time. They should just fuck off and mind their own business. U.S calling anyone out is the pot calling the kettle black at this point..they have no legitimacy anymore at this point. Everything they do turns to shit. Libya, Iraq, Syria, etc

[pgardn]

the U.S. government doesn't get to determine who's good or bad, who is allowed to do this or that etc. They've already abused that right too many times. They said assad was satan now they don't want him gone. They don't even know what the fuck they're doing half the time. They should just fuck off and mind their own business. U.S calling anyone out is the pot calling the kettle black at this point..they have no legitimacy anymore at this point. Everything they do turns to shit. Libya, Iraq, Syria, etc

And yet all of those pale in comparison to the Congo, a place that all super powers have basically avoided.
The US has more legitimacy than any country on the planet, like it or not. We are the big dog, good or bad.

[m>s]

And yet all of those pale in comparison to the Congo, a place that all super powers have basically avoided.
The US has more legitimacy than any country on the planet, like it or not. We are the big dog, good or bad.
No one cares because there is little geopolitical significance. Once Africa starts developing the U.S. will "bring democracy" to a few of those countries you watch.

[m>s]

Their chess plan genre rally consists of protecting US economic interests by any and all costs, under the poorly veiled guise of "protecting freedom and democracy." After ww2 people bought it because muh saving the world from nazis. As times goes on people of the world are seeing it as more and more ridiculous.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Who said anything about skin color? That's the biggest straw man ever, yeah race is really just skin deep. Never mind that you can determine someone's race by a simple DNA test.

They can determine what haplogroup you belong to by genotype and then you apply a skin color to various haplogroups and wave your hands. I've heard your spiel about being northern european before. We've had this conversation before remember.

You can post your study again and I will read said study and show you where the homogeneity that is so prevalent in white Americans breaks down when looking at the minority genotypes. Last time you abandoned ship when I was laughing at you about inbreeding. We can do it again if you'd like: show us your study.

[pgardn]

No one cares because there is little geopolitical significance. Once Africa starts developing the U.S. will "bring democracy" to a few of those countries you watch.

Thanks.

Boots.
Ya see, no one cares. You got that in common with the Nazi.
It's trivial. 5.4 million human beings dead is trivial.

[pgardn]

I don't have to ENGAGE with anybody.

Fuzzy is butthurt, too. Continue with sterile debates over trivial bullshit.

[pgardn]

No one cares because there is little geopolitical significance. Once Africa starts developing the U.S. will "bring democracy" to a few of those countries you watch.

Developing?

Boots says it's all about resources. The Congo has resources...
You guys have much in common as I have shown, discuss it amongst yourselves and I will take it all in.

[m>s]

It's about geopolitical power and control not directly harvesting the resources themselves. Global dollar hegemony
is way more effective than invading random countries and plundering their resources.

[pgardn]

It's about geopolitical power and control not directly harvesting the resources themselves. Global dollar hegemony
is way more effective than invading random countries and plundering their resources.


Then put in a puppet government in place and harvest?
The US has not tried. Explain?
The Congo is full of mineral resources, the Chinese have made attempts to just walk into Africa and South America.

And for Gods sake. You should be ashamed of Russia. Mineral wise the most prosperous region in THE WORLD !
WtF has happened? More of everything that they can't do ANYTHING with efficiently.

I am trying to rehabilitate you. I believe this is possible for fisherman who have kayaks. Think man.

[m>s]

Would take too long and too much capital to get Africa to the point where they can have a functioning economy and make use of themselves. If they ever eventually get there naturally well move in but we won't spend resources there over the Middle East. Middle east is geographically important as well as oil. Gotta dominate that region to dominate world trade.


Man an you'll never guess what I did last weekend- hung a fucking drum on a roadrunner hunting sandbass. I thought I had a killer fucking sandbass.

[m>s]

Then put in a puppet government in place and harvest?
Simply put there's nothing there to harvest. Raw resources don't necessarily equate to wealth just look at russia. They wouldn't let us just have the resources without creating a PR nightmare. Soft power is more efficient, using might only when necessary. That's the USA foreign policy in a nutshell

[pgardn]

Simply put there's nothing there to harvest. Raw resources don't necessarily equate to wealth just look at russia. They wouldn't let us just have the resources without creating a PR nightmare. Soft power is more efficient, using might only when necessary. That's the USA foreign policy in a nutshell

Russia has government that would never let you get away with what you are typing here. The reason you can actually present an argument about the U.S. is you are allowed to. And you can get to books articles and information of your choosing.

And I think what you call sand bass I call white bass. And the drum, a Gaspergoo. Common names are confusing. You are not from Texas methinks?

[m>s]

I'm a Texan born and raised. I call them sandbass and white bass but I've never heard that a drum called a gaspergoo. I've had those fuckers actually snap cheap ultra lights in the past and they'll hit anything.

[pgardn]

I'm a Texan born and raised. I call them sandbass and white bass but I've never heard that a drum called a gaspergoo. I've had those fuckers actually snap cheap ultra lights in the past and they'll hit anything.

Ive heard them called both. They are freshwater drum and are nasty.

Im really a saltwater guy. But I will take any fishing. The Llano, when it gets flowing again, I love that river. Turned up rocks in the early spring and used helgumites ((dragonfly larvae) for bait. Caught more species than I have ever caught out of 1 river.

I almost killed myself fishing too late on that river. Got back to the launch point after 3 hrs in almost pure blackness of nite. All I could see was the white of the Rapids. Got really lucky, missed a number of really big trees and got hung up and taken down once. You get stuck up against a log with hundreds of gallons of water pouring over you, not fun.especially when you can't see a damn thing.

And I am born and raised here too. Which begs the question how the fuck... Nevermind.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Would take too long and too much capital to get Africa to the point where they can have a functioning economy and make use of themselves. If they ever eventually get there naturally well move in but we won't spend resources there over the Middle East. Middle east is geographically important as well as oil. Gotta dominate that region to dominate world trade.


Man an you'll never guess what I did last weekend- hung a fucking drum on a roadrunner hunting sandbass. I thought I had a killer fucking sandbass.

how about india? excess labor force and cheap to hire...

pull out all production from china and see them crumble

[m>s]

Ive heard them called both. They are freshwater drum and are nasty.

Im really a saltwater guy. But I will take any fishing. The Llano, when it gets flowing again, I love that river. Turned up rocks in the early spring and used helgumites ((dragonfly larvae) for bait. Caught more species than I have ever caught out of 1 river.

I almost killed myself fishing too late on that river. Got back to the launch point after 3 hrs in almost pure blackness of nite. All I could see was the white of the Rapids. Got really lucky, missed a number of really big trees and got hung up and taken down once. You get stuck up against a log with hundreds of gallons of water pouring over you, not fun.especially when you can't see a damn thing.
those hellgrammites are fucking nasty, not even worth it to me. they'll bite the shit out of you too i've heard. but they work great for smallmouth. i live too far from the coast to do any serious ocean fishing but i wouldn't mind it someday.

gotta respect the water homie, what were you doing wading? not a good idea in the dark. not a good idea alone period. buddy system works a lot better when you're out someplace away from civilization. never know when you could get bit by something, take a fall, etc. and don't even let your waders fill up with water lol. you'll crawl on your hands and knees on the bottom of the river/lake etc all the way to shore.

[pgardn]

those hellgrammites are fucking nasty, not even worth it to me. they'll bite the shit out of you too i've heard. but they work great for smallmouth. i live too far from the coast to do any serious ocean fishing but i wouldn't mind it someday.

gotta respect the water homie, what were you doing wading? not a good idea in the dark. not a good idea alone period. buddy system works a lot better when you're out someplace away from civilization. never know when you could get bit by something, take a fall, etc. and don't even let your waders fill up with water lol. you'll crawl on your hands and knees on the bottom of the river/lake etc all the way to shore.

I just get out when I need bait, if lures are not working.

Night:
I was paddling back at that point and could not see a thing. I got rammed up against a tree. I got too interested in the fishing. I go out at night on the coast as well. I use google Earth, take my Pick Up and explore. I've had more than you can imagine happen. Alligators, snakes, Sharks, you name it.

Ive even figured out a way to effectively gig flounder with my kayak. 12v battery, homemade light setup PVC with an aircraftb landing light.

The two most dangerous things at the coast are getting cut up on oysters and rays. In that order.

Waders? I only take waders in the winter... I just stopped using them at the coast. Water is well above 70 in the marshes now. In the open bay I might still use waders if the wind is blowing. And I do go with friends. But my work hours are variable so I hunt for spots for the poor 8-5 guys. We are probably a little lax with the safety I must admit.

[pgardn]

Smallmouth.

The only place I've ever caught them is the Devils river.

[m>s]

Blue River oklahoma has nice smallmouth as do other rivers in Oklahoma

[The Reckoning]

And I posited The Congo... perhaps?


The Congo has been shit since the dawn of time. The Middle East used to be the seat of civilization. Maybe once Islam is outdated they'll go back to being the people they once were. Some of the brightest people I've met are Iranian, but they call themselves Persian because they don't consider themselves to be affiliated with the ayatollah.

[boutons_deux]

Africa was on its own, somewhat stable, until the Europeans moved in to rip off its natural resources, African never recovered.

Now it's the planet's BigCrop continuing the exploitation.

How Gates the Foundation and Western Countries Are Plotting to Take Control of Africa's Agriculture

A battle is currently being waged over Africa's seed systems. After decades of neglect and weak investment in African agriculture, there is renewed interest in funding African agriculture.

These new investments take the form of philanthropic and international development aid as well as private investment funds. They are based on the potentially huge profitability of African agriculture - and seed systems are a key target.

Right now ministers are co-ordinating their next steps at the 34th COMESA (http://www.comesa.int/)(Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa) Intergovernmental Committee meeting (http://www.au.int/en/content/18thCOMESA_SUMMIT) that kicked off yesterday, 22nd March, in preparation for the main Summit that will follow on 30th and 31st March 2015.

COMESA's key aim is to pave the way for a "Continental Free Trade Area (CFTA) in 2017 under the auspices of the African Union" with uniform regulations, including on agricultural products, seeds and GMOs.

A recent meeting on biotechnology and biosafety was held to establish a "COMESA biotechnology and biosafety policy implementation plan" (COMBIP) to roll out from 2015-2019, "leading to increased biotechnology applications and agricultural commodity trade in the region."

But read between the lines and its real purpose was to facilitate the planting and commercialization of GMO crops in Africa all at one go, instead of country by country. USAID Regional representatives for East Africa, based in Nairobi, were present to monitor the process and ensure the desired outcome.

And on the agenda for the main COMESA Summit next week is the approval of a 'Master Plan' for the implementation of the COMESA Harmonised Seed Trade Regulations (http://foodtradeesa.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/COMESA-Seed-Harmonisation-Regulations.pdf) agreed last year in Kinshasa.

The regulations, according to the Alliance for Food Sovereignty in Africa (http://www.seattleglobaljustice.org/wp-content/uploads/AFSA.pdf), "will greatly facilitate agricultural transformation in the COMESA member states towards industrialization of farming systems based on the logic of the highly controversial, failed and hopelessly doomed Green Revolution model of agriculture."

http://www.alternet.org/world/how-gates-foundation-and-western-countries-are-plotting-take-control-africas-agriculture?akid=12956.187590.VMYBYv&rd=1&src=newsletter1034088&t=23

[The Reckoning]

"somewhat stable"


:lmao

[boutons_deux]

"somewhat stable"


:lmao

Africa was there for 10Ks of years before the Europeans invaded, not that you have any idea of the century of the Europeans invasion

[The Reckoning]

Africa was there for 10Ks of years before the Europeans invaded, not that you have any idea of the century of the Europeans invasion


yeah Islam invaded. you can also say the Carthaginians made it all the way down the west coast and ports along the Swahili coast traded around the Indian Ocean in antiquity.

I'm talking sub sahara africa by the way. permanent shit hole with the exception of merchants on the East coast and Islamic empires.

[Infinite_limit]

Africa was there for 10Ks of years before the Europeans invaded, not that you have any idea of the century of the Europeans invasion
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/Aborginals-Been-Here-40000-Years-Invented-A-Stick_o_109295_zpsjlwheojv.jpg

[boutons_deux]

yeah Islam invaded. you can also say the Carthaginians made it all the way down the west coast and ports along the Swahili coast traded around the Indian Ocean in antiquity.

I'm talking sub sahara africa by the way. permanent shit hole with the exception of merchants on the East coast and Islamic empires.

sub-Saharan Africa is there Euros extracted the wealth. Apart from oil and gas, and that's just in modern times, north Africa has very little to offer. South of Sahara was the European colonizers' target, lumber (Europe mostly denuded), gemstones, minerals, etc, then oil and gas (Nigeria).

[The Reckoning]

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/Aborginals-Been-Here-40000-Years-Invented-A-Stick_o_109295_zpsjlwheojv.jpg


funny meme but that's an aboriginal tbh with the indigenous australian flag colors

[The Reckoning]

sub-Saharan Africa is there Euros extracted the wealth. Apart from oil and gas, and that's just in modern times, north Africa has very little to offer. South of Sahara was the European colonizers' target, lumber (Europe mostly denuded), gemstones, minerals, etc, then oil and gas (Nigeria).


except the egyptians and carthaginians and ptolemaic dynasties. wondrous empires.

don't kid yourself. Islam divided all of Africa and the rest sold themselves into slavery. Not everything is because of the big bad white man. You give Europeans too much credit. It was just too easy of a situation for them to take advantage of.

[pgardn]

except the egyptians and carthaginians and ptolemaic dynasties. wondrous empires.

don't kid yourself. Islam divided all of Africa and the rest sold themselves into slavery. Not everything is because of the big bad white man. You give Europeans too much credit. It was just too easy of a situation for them to take advantage of.

And this is exactly why I asked or made a stab.
Boutons wants the world to be easy... White man, big empires/business, things die.
Its the same recipe in his head. Just like a religious fanatic, it has to be a certain way or his worldview crashes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Congo and the plains of south africa never really got invaded by Europeans too bad until the 19th century. The French and Germans moved into the area after the fact. Cape of Good Hope and the West African coasts sure but it wasn't until the Brits started pushing inland from Capestown and Guinea in the 19th century that those tribes really were invaded. How that turned out was famous.

Congo hasn't been overly populated since the beginning of time. The Congo is the thickest jungle in the world at the basin and it floods. Most of the people are hunter gatherer types even today. East out at Lake Victoria and up the Nile is where most of the fighting in the region takes place. Kenya, Rwanda and Tanzania. Warlords from those regions as well as the Islamists from West Africa are hiding in the hills and jungles of the region.

The African Union and the French have been heavily involved in the area. NATO troops have gone to the region. Just because we aren't personally doing the handholding doesn't mean that they are forgotten. Frankly, they are French and British post colonial states for the most part; they should be point and not us.

[m>s]

They can determine what haplogroup you belong to by genotype and then you apply a skin color to various haplogroups and wave your hands. I've heard your spiel about being northern european before. We've had this conversation before remember.

You can post your study again and I will read said study and show you where the homogeneity that is so prevalent in white Americans breaks down when looking at the minority genotypes. Last time you abandoned ship when I was laughing at you about inbreeding. We can do it again if you'd like: show us your study.

>jews infiltrate study of race; convince americans within a hundred years there is no such thing as race in a biological viewpoint; black and whites are 100% equal biologically
>jews tell us the jewish race deserves their own country