It's ok to hate Matt Bonner...

[ElNono]

Baynes better get healthy fast, because it's 2015 and we're still going to run ginger out there, smh... it's just not serious for a team with any kind of championship aspirations...

[Splits]

Never forget what he gave us in the WCF last year.

Never.

[dabom]

I saw matt bonner and I facepalmed. :lmao

[ElNono]

Never forget what he gave us in the WCF last year.

Never.

starting 2 games and passing up shots?

[Splits]

starting 2 games and passing up shots?

Hell yeah. Leaving stretch marks on Abaka like he was 8 months preggers

[lefty20]

Hell yeah. Leaving stretch marks on Abaka like he was 8 months preggers

:lol

[SpurPadre]

Never forget what he gave us in the WCF last year.

Never.

That's incredibly overblown. Diaw getting more minutes and hitting jumpers is what really changed the series and took Ibaka and the thunder out of rhythm. In addition, never forget the other disastrous playoff years of Bonner missing open shot after open shot. Fuck that sandwich eating piece of shit.

[lefty20]

I honestly don't get the hate on him. He is what he is, limitations and all. It's not like he's gary fucking neal out there chucking his little heart out there. It's not his fault pop thought he was the heir apparent to Robert Horry. He seems like a genuinely likable dude.

[SpurPadre]

I honestly don't get the hate on him. He is what he is, limitations and all. It's not like he's gary fucking neal out there chucking his little heart out there. It's not his fault pop thought he was the heir apparent to Robert Horry. He seems like a genuinely likable dude.

No. I actually don't get why people give him a free pass and consider him some kind of loveable loser. The day he retires, I will consider it another won Title.

[lefty20]

No. I actually don't get why people give him a free pass. The day he retires, I will consider it another won Title.

If anyone is getting a free pass it's Pop. He is incredible stubborn. He forced matt into being a full rotation big when everyone else could see he was nothing more than a 3pt specialist to be used in special situations. But he stubbornly stuck with him over Tiago. He also did the same with Gary Neal and Money Mason, neither was suited to play back up PG but he forced it onto them.

[ElNono]

I honestly don't get the hate on him. He is what he is, limitations and all. It's not like he's gary fucking neal out there chucking his little heart out there. It's not his fault pop thought he was the heir apparent to Robert Horry. He seems like a genuinely likable dude.

He can be a nice guy while not wearing a Spurs jersey, tbh... I have no problem with that.

[lefty20]

He can be a nice guy while not wearing a Spurs jersey, tbh... I have no problem with that.

And Pop gets a free pass. Seems a little unfair considering he was the one who put Matt in a situation he was doomed to fail.

[MI21]

I don't hate him and the last couple of years he has been relatively ok in the role he deserves, 11th/12th man, but this season - gross. Get him off the court.

[lefty20]

I don't hate him and the last couple of years he has been relatively ok in the role he deserves, 11th/12th man, but this season - gross. Get him off the court.
Exaclty he was never ever meant to be a regualr rotation big but Pop forced it trying to fill the void left by Horry.

[spurraider21]

and we wanted to amnesty bonner like 4 years ago :lol

[Godbama]

it's hard to, tbh. He's often incompetent and whenever he misses a three for the limited court time he gets sometimes it pisses me off because I'm like THAT'S THE ONLY REASON YOU'RE EVEN THERE YOU GINGER MOTHERFUCKER

but he always seems to put 100% of his effort into everything, unlike some players. that just doesn't really compensate for much given his lack of other basketball gifts. damn if he isn't always trying hard though.

[Sean Cagney]

That's incredibly overblown. Diaw getting more minutes and hitting jumpers is what really changed the series and took Ibaka and the thunder out of rhythm. In addition, never forget the other disastrous playoff years of Bonner missing open shot after open shot. Fuck that sandwich eating piece of shit.
My man.... On point 100%. Playoff choker started the game and I guess stretched the floor but Diaw played the third. I guess people look for anything to praise that red head fucker... Those years he got heavy mins they lost..

He still missed his shots in that said Okc game too :lol His career highlight playoff game was Memphis in 011 game one, he hit a few big threes and the Spurs lost during his shining moment. Even when he hits the game is cursed and a loss.

[spurraider21]

bonner was also big against memphis in 2013 iirc

[Sean Cagney]

bonner was also big against memphis in 2013 iirc

If he plays a minimal role he is fine tbh... PURELY based on a matchup though and no more. Pop used him too much where he did not belong and there came the problem.

[spurraider21]

If he plays a minimal role he is fine tbh... PURELY based on a matchup though and no more. Pop used him too much where he did not belong and there came the problem.
which is why i dont get why people are bitching. in last year's playoffs he averaged like 3 mpg against dallas, 2 mpg against portland, 5 mpg against miami (mostly in games 3/4/5 blowouts)

[ChumpDumper]

lol bitter spurfan

Always finding something to bitch about.

[ElNono]

which is why i dont get why people are bitching. in last year's playoffs he averaged like 3 mpg against dallas, 2 mpg against portland, 5 mpg against miami (mostly in games 3/4/5 blowouts)

That's what we all want from him. I completely forgot about him last season. Unfortunately, with Baynes hurt, I see an expanded role for him in out future (gross)

[lefty20]

That's what we all want from him. I completely forgot about him last season. Unfortunately, with Baynes hurt, I see an expanded role for him in out future (gross)

Reasons to hate Bonner...

Forced to play a role he clearly wasn't suited for by his stubborn Coach
Forced to play due to an injury to the 4th big

Seems unfair, tbh.

[spurraider21]

That's what we all want from him. I completely forgot about him last season. Unfortunately, with Baynes hurt, I see an expanded role for him in out future (gross)
yeah, but pop shortened his rotation in the playoffs. i dont care how many minutes bonner is getting in the reg season, especially when we have an injury to baynes, who is clearly ahead of him on the depth chart anyway

[ElNono]

Reasons to hate Bonner...

Forced to play a role he clearly wasn't suited for by his stubborn Coach
Forced to play due to an injury to the 4th big

Seems unfair, tbh.

I don't necessarily disagree that it's on Pop... but it's not him going on out there with the little t-rex arms getting bullied in the paint or beat to a rebound... I don't hate Matt Bonner the person, I hate Matt Bonner the NBA player, tbh

[ElNono]

yeah, but pop shortened his rotation in the playoffs. i dont care how many minutes bonner is getting in the reg season, especially when we have an injury to baynes, who is clearly ahead of him on the depth chart anyway

That's a very sound reasoning and a very well thought out, coherent response...



But I still hate the guy. I cringe whenever he checks into the game. I anxiously await the imminent fuckup that feeds my confirmation bias. Then it happens, I yell at the TV, and I still can't believe this fucker is still around.

[spurraider21]

That's a very sound reasoning and a very well thought out, coherent response...



But I still hate the guy. I cringe whenever he checks into the game. I anxiously await the imminent fuckup that feeds my confirmation bias. Then it happens, I yell at the TV, and I still can't believe this fucker is still around.
translation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-AXgYO0lo

[ElNono]

translation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-AXgYO0lo

:lol GOAT movie... I keep rewatching every time they show it on TV

[spurraider21]

:lol GOAT movie... I keep rewatching every time they show it on TV
:lol agreed, and its always fucking on


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lMWCTWe_G4

[BillMc]

Hell yeah. Leaving stretch marks on Abaka like he was 8 months preggers
:lol

[Raven]

i'll take bonner over beli any day. Better defender and better shooter and also far smarter player.

[lefty20]

I don't necessarily disagree that it's on Pop... but it's not him going on out there with the little t-rex arms getting bullied in the paint or beat to a rebound... I don't hate Matt Bonner the person, I hate Matt Bonner the NBA player, tbh

I agree, besides his shooting touch he has nothing of significant value to offer on the nba floor. And that's why his role should've been severely limited, as it has been in recent years. But the guy gets way too much hate for someone who was being asked to play a role that was well beyond his capabilities. Despite this I don't remember him sulking or making any excuses after routinely getting rekt in the paint.

The man played hard and gave it his absolute best. Given the circumstances we can't ask for more than that.

[K...]

Vet min player just doing vet min things.

[Brazil]

Bonner hate is so antiquated tbh...

mainstream and big 3 fans :rolleyes

[spursparker9]

Chill. Its his final season in NBA.

Possibly Manu and Timmy too

[ElNono]

Chill. Its his final season in NBA.

That's what I heard 3 seasons ago... :pctoss

[ElNono]

Bonner hate is so antiquated tbh...

mainstream and big 3 fans :rolleyes

A cursory look at game threads says Bonner-hating is ever-present and not going out of style any time soon, tbh

[Sean Cagney]

Chill. Its his final season in NBA.

Possibly Manu and Timmy too

I will miss the last two as they are key contributers to a few rings, Spurs legends.

[Brazil]

A cursory look at game threads says Bonner-hating is ever-present and not going out of style any time soon, tbh

sure... does not prevent the fact it is antiquated and main stream big 3 fans stuff

[Horse]

Don't forget making howard his bitch

[Blake]

+3 last night, +2 vs Mavs

Bonner being the plus king he is

[SpurPadre]

Chill. Its his final season in NBA.

Possibly Manu and Timmy too

That's the thing. The fucker never leaves. How many times have we heard that only for him to re-sign and continue to make a million for being horrible to insignificant at what he does?

[RD2191]

Fuck Matt Bonner.

[ElNono]

sure... does not prevent the fact it is antiquated and main stream big 3 fans stuff

antiquated and mainstream at the same time? put down the caipirinha...

[SpurPadre]

antiquated and mainstream at the same time? put down the caipirinha...

I know, right? LOL.

[Brazil]

antiquated and mainstream at the same time? put down the caipirinha...

being mainstream is not antiquated ?

[SpurPadre]

being mainstream is not antiquated ?

Ok, you're using an oxymoron. Fair enough. Bonner haters like me still aren't necessarily "mainstream" fans.

[ElNono]

being mainstream is not antiquated ?

dunno, tbh... not the resident fashionista... apa would know, tbh

[Old School 44]

I have no real problems with Bonner. Never understood the hate for him. He's an end of the bench player. A regular season minutes eater with "corporate knowledge". I have no real expectations for him, so I really can't hate him.

[SnakeBoy]

With Baynes out the alternative is Errors so no I don't agree that it is ok to hate Bonner. Bonner is a very good role player for the team in limited minutes/situations. He deserves some love for that. It's not his fault he's being asked to do more than he is capable of due to Baynes injury.

[Brazil]

Ok, you're using an oxymoron. Fair enough. Bonner haters like me still aren't necessarily "mainstream" fans.

well when you disagree it seems the last trendy stuff to do according to the top tier elite posters is to use antiquated and mainstream... I'm just trying to keep up to not be taxed of being antiquated and mainstream

[Brazil]

dunno, tbh... not the resident fashionista... apa would know, tbh

I already sent a PM to Harlem to check it out tbh

[UZER]

With Baynes out the alternative is Errors so no I don't agree that it is ok to hate Bonner. Bonner is a very good role player for the team in limited minutes/situations. He deserves some love for that. It's not his fault he's being asked to do more than he is capable of due to Baynes injury.

While this is mostly true, people are just done with the dude. Outside of two shots, he's never done anything meaningful in his 7+ years. He's eaten up a usable roster spot and salary year after year with nothing to show for it, yet for some reason, pop just won't cut this dude.

Most are just at the point that sight of him checking into a game makes you want to change the channel, like an old girlfriend that while very nice, was just annoying as hell and you just want to avoid at all cost.

[K...]

Haha, people would rather cut bonner for more project players like Ayers, daye, or Reggie. I mean the bonner alternatives have been daye, Steve Novak, croshere, and tolliver etc. I know he sucks this year but I'd rather roll the dice on old bon than roll the dice that some scrub can bring basic defense and outside shooting.

We have plenty of young talent. Next year we can roll the dive again but I don't see any D league talent clearly better than bonner.











Maybe ka

[Borosai]

Matt Bonner!

[vander]

This is going the year he finally shoots well in the playoffs.

[UZER]

This is going the year he finally shoots well in the playoffs.

:lol, but seriously I really hope so. I'm want him to have his moment.

[Sean Cagney]

This is going the year he finally shoots well in the playoffs.

I don't want him anywhere near the floor in the playoffs unless it is situational or a blowout! We have seen in the past what he does when he gets time in the playoffs and it is not pretty and detrimental to the team if Pop starts overusing him. If he hits a shot or two POP might go mad and start playing him alot more, you know Pop.

I hope he hits a timely shot, somehow I doubt it though :lol

[Silver&Black]

The official "I hate Bonner fan club"???

Sign me up....

Do I send my dues to ElNono?

[ElNono]

The official "I hate Bonner fan club"???

Sign me up....

Do I send my dues to ElNono?

We get funded by the Fabbs Foundation For A Better Future... so no dues are necessary, I just sent our welcoming package on the mail, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

We get funded by the Fabbs (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3662) Foundation For A Better Future... so no dues are necessary, I just sent our welcoming package on the mail, tbh.

:lmao

[Mikeanaro]

I understand he is a nice guy and everything but what I cant deduce how the hell is he a valuable player to Pop, Bon never was a RS savior or even a reliable player so how is he playing here yet?
He was ok as an asset when Horry was running the show, but after that I DONT KNOW! WHAT IS REALLY REAL?

[Blake]

We get funded by the Fabbs Foundation For A Better Future... so no dues are necessary, I just sent our welcoming package on the mail, tbh.

Lol

[BillMc]

Why would I hate a Spurs player? I'm a Spurs fan.

[spurs10]

Why would I hate a Spurs player? I'm a Spurs fan. Go Spurs! :toast

[VBM]

Would rather have Novak

[Sean Cagney]

Why would I hate a Spurs player? I'm a Spurs fan.

You would want him to do well naturally but if he is hurting the team when he is out there why would you like him? Honestly. He has done some of that as well when his shot is not falling, which is most of the year this year or the playoffs overall.

I love the Spurs yes, just wish some were not on the team. If they are playing hell yeah I want their shots to fall and them to do well, but Bonner has not been that great here IMO and he still gets some PT :lol Ayres is another one I don't favor, but I don't wish him to fail either if he is out on the floor.

[ElNono]

Why would I hate a Spurs player? I'm a Spurs fan.

tbh, if you didn't hate Richard Jefferson or Hedo in the playoffs when they were with the Spurs, you're not drinking enough, Bill...

[Mikeanaro]

A little hate can be good, going to bed after praying while holding a knife and crying... thats very bad.

[HI-FI]

tbh, if you didn't hate Richard Jefferson or Hedo in the playoffs when they were with the Spurs, you're not drinking enough, Bill...
i'd easily take Bonner over those two clowns. I like Bonner, at least more now that he's used sparingly. Sorry they didn't have an Argie in his spot though, maybe next time...

[spurs10]

Hopefully the Red Mamba doesn't hear this blasphemy and decide to open a king-size can of whoop ass on The Double No! Talk about spreading the floor! This could get ugly like his rebounding! :ihit

[BillMc]

tbh, if you didn't hate Richard Jefferson or Hedo in the playoffs when they were with the Spurs, you're not drinking enough, Bill...

:lol Okay, I'll go on a bender this weekend and see if the hate begins to flow....:jekka

As for Bonner, he's the 4th or 5th Big. Timmy, Tiago, Boris and now maybe Baynes (when healthy) are ahead of him. Look around the league, as 4th or 5th bigs go he's pretty effective and because he's a specialist in 3 point shooting he has his situational uses. Pop started him in key games in the Conference Finals last year to draw Ibaka away from the basket. The degree it worked is debatable but any 4th or 5th big that can be called upon to affect a playoff series, isn't all bad. And Bonner is on a cheap contract, a good value for the money for a veteran. By no means is hurting our cap situation (like RJ did), And he seems like a hell of a nice guy off the court, with a self-depreciating sense humor that makes him a good interview. Adding it up, it's kind of hard for me to hate a guy like that.

I try and save my hate for the enemy like Mark Cuban or the remains of Kobe Bryant. (Though I admit, RJ, used to piss me off no end. Happy I can root against him now! :toast).

[BillMc]

You would want him to do well naturally but if he is hurting the team when he is out there why would you like him? Honestly. He has done some of that as well when his shot is not falling, which is most of the year this year or the playoffs overall.

I love the Spurs yes, just wish some were not on the team. If they are playing hell yeah I want their shots to fall and them to do well, but Bonner has not been that great here IMO and he still gets some PT :lol Ayres is another one I don't favor, but I don't wish him to fail either if he is out on the floor.

I agree to a certain point, but Pop has to give them playing time to see how effective they can be. Bonner, despite his limitations, knows his rotations and has lead the league in 3 point shooting in the past, so it is worth seeing how he'll perform in spurts. Again, he's the 4th or 5th big. He has to be played some, if for no other reason than to spell those ahead of him.

Ayres, well, he's the 6th big on the team. No one should really expect anything out of that slot. The only big negative is he's being paid too much to be the bottom of the big totem pole.

[Brazil]

tbh, if you didn't hate Richard Jefferson or Hedo in the playoffs when they were with the Spurs, you're not drinking enough, Bill...

using the terms hate is silly and stupid to be serious two minutes

I don't see why anybody would "hate" RJ, Hedo or Bonner... You don't like the players, you hate watching them play for the Spurs but would you hate the person ?

[ElNono]

using the terms hate is silly and stupid to be serious two minutes

I don't see why anybody would "hate" RJ, Hedo or Bonner... You don't like the players, you hate watching them play for the Spurs but would you hate the person ?

Already stated I don't hate the person, I hate the NBA player. Though I must admit, through the years, Bonner is far and away the biggest recipient of insults hurled at the TV...

[manufan10]

tbh, if you didn't hate Richard Jefferson or Hedo in the playoffs when they were with the Spurs, you're not drinking enough, Bill...

I think it's different for Dick Jefferson because he was supposed to make the Big 3 a Big 4. He had high expectations, and failed miserably. Not just in the playoffs, but in the RS as well.


Bonner put in some solid effort in '13 playoffs against LA and Memphis... and against the Thunder last season, tbh.

[kaji157]

I hated on Bonner a long time ago when pop consider him a starting player alongside Duncan.
Right now i am in peace with the guy, he is only playing this much because Baynes is injured and Diaw is playing like he doesn´t care, so i don´t mind Pp giving the red mamba minutes.

[Brazil]

Already stated I don't hate the person, I hate the NBA player. Though I must admit, through the years, Bonner is far and away the biggest recipient of insults hurled at the TV...

thus the it's ok to hate watching Matt Bonner playing bb vs. it's ok to hate Matt Bonner

[SayTown]

If Bonner was black he would have been cut years ago

[Sean Cagney]

I agree to a certain point, but Pop has to give them playing time to see how effective they can be. Bonner, despite his limitations, knows his rotations and has lead the league in 3 point shooting in the past, so it is worth seeing how he'll perform in spurts. Again, he's the 4th or 5th big. He has to be played some, if for no other reason than to spell those ahead of him.

Ayres, well, he's the 6th big on the team. No one should really expect anything out of that slot. The only big negative is he's being paid too much to be the bottom of the big totem pole.
Bonner has had enough time to show how effective he can be or can't be, that is the point some have I am guessing :lol With Bonner you know what you get and what he is honestly. If he is hitting and used sparingly in the right situations then I have no problem, it's just when Pop would over play the guy in a series or two like he was going to be Horry is when I had the problem with him. Right now he doesn't bother me nearly as much, right situations he can play but otherwise glue him to the bench and I am fine.

I agree FULLY on Ayres, what a bad signing that was and he is not worth what he is making. He is a garbage time player only and never will be more than that in this league IMO, yet they went out and nabbed him as a FA that summer. Bonner is better than that guy, quite easily in fact. Lets hope we don't have to use either come playoff time, that is about all we can ask for (Unless it is a blowout).

[Spur Bank]

The problem with Bonner is his contributions aren't obvious or glamorous. For example, he's exceptionally careful with the ball and has one of the lowest turnover rates in the league... to the Spurs who just care about wins, that's hugely valuable. To some fans, they don't pay attention to that stuff so they don't realize why he gets played.

Knowing 1. why the Spurs play(ed) Bonner so much, and 2. why the Spurs were so much better plus-minus wise when he was out there (hint: there's far more to it than "he stretches the floor") is probably the easiest way to determine the depth of a Spurs fan's basketball knowledge.

If someone says they don't like Bonner because he looks slow and awkward, that's a valid opinion, and I can respect that. But if someone says they don't like Bonner because he's not a good player, I can't respect that because it's an opinion not supported by facts and demonstrates the person has little knowledge of today's NBA game.

[ElNono]

If someone says they don't like Bonner because he looks slow and awkward, that's a valid opinion, and I can respect that. But if someone says they don't like Bonner because he's not a good player, I can't respect that because it's an opinion not supported by facts and demonstrates the person has little knowledge of today's NBA game.

By most metrics, when the playoffs roll around and players mismatchs are exploited, he's a below average player, that's a fact. Plus/Minus, PER, VORP, etc. You can take a look for yourself:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bonnema01.html

So I understand his role as a regular season minute burner, but fortunately Pop went away from the failed experiment of Matt Bonner the playoff performer. I'm hoping that stays that way, especially if Baynes can give us serviceable minutes if those minutes are needed.

[UZER]

The problem with Bonner is his contributions aren't obvious or glamorous. For example, he's exceptionally careful with the ball and has one of the lowest turnover rates in the league... to the Spurs who just care about wins, that's hugely valuable. To some fans, they don't pay attention to that stuff so they don't realize why he gets played.

Knowing 1. why the Spurs play(ed) Bonner so much, and 2. why the Spurs were so much better plus-minus wise when he was out there (hint: there's far more to it than "he stretches the floor") is probably the easiest way to determine the depth of a Spurs fan's basketball knowledge.

If someone says they don't like Bonner because he looks slow and awkward, that's a valid opinion, and I can respect that. But if someone says they don't like Bonner because he's not a good player, I can't respect that because it's an opinion not supported by facts and demonstrates the person has little knowledge of today's NBA game.

Dude, we already know all that stuff you just said about Bonner. We're not novice fans.

Big minutes, small minutes, doesn't matter at this point. We're all just done with him already.

[DMC]

I honestly don't get the hate on him. He is what he is, limitations and all. It's not like he's gary fucking neal out there chucking his little heart out there. It's not his fault pop thought he was the heir apparent to Robert Horry. He seems like a genuinely likable dude.
You could pull some bum out of the stands and say the same thing is Pop inserted him into the game. It's not his fault, but you're still fucked.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Baynes better get healthy fast, because it's 2015 and we're still going to run ginger out there, smh... it's just not serious for a team with any kind of championship aspirations...

I see it more of an issue of no true C on the court. Bonner isn't such a trainwreck next to Duncan, Splitter, and Baynes.

[Arcadian]

Even with Baynes hurt, Bonner doesn't have to play. The 8-man rotation that won a championship was Parker/Green/Leonard/Diaw/Duncan/Mills/Manu/Splitter.

If anything, Joseph and Belinelli are 9 and 10.

[Sean Cagney]

The problem with Bonner is his contributions aren't obvious or glamorous. For example, he's exceptionally careful with the ball and has one of the lowest turnover rates in the league... to the Spurs who just care about wins, that's hugely valuable. To some fans, they don't pay attention to that stuff so they don't realize why he gets played.

Knowing 1. why the Spurs play(ed) Bonner so much, and 2. why the Spurs were so much better plus-minus wise when he was out there (hint: there's far more to it than "he stretches the floor") is probably the easiest way to determine the depth of a Spurs fan's basketball knowledge.

If someone says they don't like Bonner because he looks slow and awkward, that's a valid opinion, and I can respect that. But if someone says they don't like Bonner because he's not a good player, I can't respect that because it's an opinion not supported by facts and demonstrates the person has little knowledge of today's NBA game.

I also notice without getting into the king of the plus minus stuff that they have played him alot less during the playoffs the last two years, result? Two finals appearances and one title. He was getting too many minutes and overused during the 08-11 runs and the results speak for themselves when he gets limited minutes they do better in the playoffs. He is a situational player and when he is used correctly there is no problem, when overused though there is a problem especially when his shot is not falling or the guy he is guarding is too quick or athletic for him.

I remember Sheed one time said during a game I believe to give the ball to the guy he is guarding, no coincidence he got burned that game. Memphis series in 011 was a disaster as well with him. He had a decent series in 013 vs Memphis and did his job I will give him that, last year against OKC that one quarter he started as well everyone mentions 1000 times about him and so on is another one he did his job and then promptly the second half got off the floor. If used right he is fine, if the match up is bad and overused he is detrimental to the team, sometimes Pop did not know the line but THANK GOD NOW he appears to get it.

Numbers aside this is logic, the guy below you El Nono posted something to somewhat show during the playoffs he falls off. Regular season guy and situational player, that is about the just of it.

He was getting 20 minutes a game in the 09 playoffs, 17.5 the next and then 20 the year after, way too many minutes. The years after it dropped off significantly and the Spurs go further each year, just saying. His shooting % awful too besides 013 when he actually shot good in the playoffs from three, otherwise way below his career avg.

[lefty20]

You could pull some bum out of the stands and say the same thing is Pop inserted him into the game. It's not his fault, but you're still fucked.

And it'd be equally unfair to hate that random bum instead of calling out Pop for making a mistake. Don't get me wrong, I think he is the GOAT coach and I'm glad he's with the Spurs but he's definitely made his fair share of mistakes. Just goes to show that nobody's perfect, tbh.

[K...]

Hopefully we get some red mamba burn in this garbage of a game.

[SpurPadre]

Hopefully we get some red mamba burn in this garbage of a game.

No, only if we're up 50 with a second left.

[K...]

uh he's losing the plus minus stat