Durant Out For Season

[stepmonkey]

Damn. Sux for OKC.

http://news.yahoo.com/thunders-durant-needs-surgery-season-194638938--nba.html

[024]

Probably just saved Brooks' job for another year... double whammy for OKC.

[SpurPadre]

The Dubs get a free pass in Rd. 1 now...unless it's another bullshit lie like they did about Ibaka last year.

[Mikeanaro]

While watching last Spurs game in the ESPN news announcements lines (down below where it says NBA NFL etc.) Brooks said Durant was ready to play in a couple of days not even missing the remaining of RS, that stupid clown wants to save his pathetic abilities as a coach by killing his best players literally.

[Dex]

Has Ibaka been ruled out for OKC playoffs? I thought they were doing the surgery so that he would be out most of the season but would still have a chance for playoff time?

[hater]

Wonder if OKC front office still calling his surgeries "procedures" :lmao

[BillMc]

Hope this isn't a Yao or Walton situation. Foot injuries are a bitch, those guys were never the same. A lot of people say Durant is a lot lighter, which is true, but on the other side he's much more perimeter orientated than Bill or Yao. Speed will be needed.

[Uriel]

Terrible news. Golden State will have a cakewalk into the 2nd round.

[exstatic]

His career may be over. Ugh. The dreaded fifth metatarsal fracture. This is his third surgery already.

[PingPong]

Durant's fault. A superstar playing with fractures, trusting in his team's medical staff, without going after a second opinion? Plain stupid.

[BillMc]

OKC med staff seem to have a history of risking their players. Remember Ibaka's miraculous return in the WCF?

[HI-FI]

Durant was one of my favorite college players but he's become more of a douche since going pro. Hope for his sake he can still have a successful career.

[RD2191]

Durant was one of my favorite college players but he's become more of a douche since going pro. Hope for his sake he can still have a successful career.
it's nuts how every player that plays for okc turns into a giant faggot. the entire roster is full of queers

[Seventyniner]

His career may be over. Ugh. The dreaded fifth metatarsal fracture. This is his third surgery already.

I hope not. Even if I like to root against the Thunder, and want them to miss the playoffs for the lol factor like I wanted the Lakers to miss out in 2012, he's still a top 3 player when healthy and the league is better with more talent.

[itzsoweezee]

Okc may be the worst organization in sports. What a bunch of amateurs.

[Budkin]

It's called Clay Bennett Karma. Fuck that piece of shit.

[Russo21]

OKC should lose every game the rest of the season, fall out of the playoff race and get a nice draft pick to add to the team next year. No point being a borderline 8th seed playoff team with no chance of going further.

[SnakeBoy]

OKLAHOMA CITY, March 27, 2015 – The Oklahoma City Thunder released the following statement on behalf of Thunder Executive Vice President and General Manager Sam Presti regarding Kevin Durant:

“As we communicated last week, Kevin was going to use this time to engage in consultation and evaluation regarding the persistent soreness in his right foot at this stage of his rehabilitation. As part of this process, Kevin and Thunder personnel traveled to two additional specialists this past week; Dr. Martin O’Malley in New York City and Dr. James Nunley at Duke University. These in-person consults were designed to further supplement the previous evaluations of Dr. Bob Anderson. Several conference calls and discussions amongst the specialist team concluded that, while the majority of the soreness in Kevin’s foot was related to continued inflammation of the cuboid bone and would subside with rest, the evaluation process also determined that the Jones fracture of the fifth metatarsal, which had shown significant healing previously, was now demonstrating signs of regression.

With the focus of this process being aimed entirely on Kevin's long term health and stability, it was the consensus of the specialists team, in addition to a collective decision by Kevin, his representation and the Thunder, that to address the setback of the fracture site, a bone graft procedure would be the most proactive and recommended approach. The bone graft is the standard procedure for the five to eight percent of Jones fracture surgeries that do not initially have success or experience setbacks sometime within the recovery period. While everyone is disappointed that Kevin falls into that group, we are encouraged that the bone graft procedure has historically demonstrated long-term health and stability.

Dr. O’Malley will perform the bone graft surgery early next week in New York. He has extensive bone grafting experience amongst athletes and has been consulting on the case throughout. Kevin will miss the remainder of the 2014-15 season and is expected to return to basketball activities in the next four to six months.”


Presti is so full of shit acting like they care about Durant's long term health. Hopefully this is Durant realizing they didn't give a shit about his long term future and he is now saying fuck you to the Thunder. I posted the study in another Durant thread, the recommended wait is 8 weeks for a Jones fracture but among elite athletes the re-injury rate was 85% with only 8 weeks rest. Presti/Brooks brought Durant back in 7 weeks. Dumb fucks.

[Mr. Body]

Terrible news. Golden State will have a cakewalk into the 2nd round.

A 1/8 should be a cakewalk.

[Darius Bieber]

it's nuts how every player that plays for okc turns into a giant faggot. the entire roster is full of queers

This. Except former Spur Steve Novak. He lent helping hands to Spur players on the floor.

[Sean Cagney]

Durant was one of my favorite college players but he's become more of a douche since going pro. Hope for his sake he can still have a successful career.

Yep, he was humble and seemed like a very good dude for the most part. He has slowly turned into what he is the last few years and it was getting worse. I hope he can still have a good career though as he is a hell of a player and I would hate to see that talent cut short like Grant Hill, Penny or D Rose (One of a kind athletes whose careers were never the same).
Presti is so full of shit acting like they care about Durant's long term health. Hopefully this is Durant realizing they didn't give a shit about his long term future and he is now saying fuck you to the Thunder. I posted the study in another Durant thread, the recommended wait is 8 weeks for a Jones fracture but among elite athletes the re-injury rate was 85% with only 8 weeks rest. Presti/Brooks brought Durant back in 7 weeks. Dumb fucks.
You can always count on Presti/Brooks to fuck up a good thing, the main reason why I think the Spurs can beat them is because of the coach and that other dumb ass rushing people back and trading players like Harden and Jackson. They are their own worst enemy.
I hope not. Even if I like to root against the Thunder, and want them to miss the playoffs for the lol factor like I wanted the Lakers to miss out in 2012, he's still a top 3 player when healthy and the league is better with more talent.

Yes, agreed.

[spurs10]

Durant was one of my favorite college players but he's become more of a douche since going pro. Hope for his sake he can still have a successful career. Remember he played in college for about 6 months of his life. As much as I don't like him, I wish him a speedy recovering. I also thinks he should rectify that freshman year drop-out thing and go back to school once his NBA career is officially toast!

When you think about Tim Duncan who stayed in school until he graduated, when he could have made millions, it's hard to fathom! Tells you all you need to know. A man of integrity unafraid to educate himself, unafraid to doubt himself.

[testies]

OKC eliminates GSW. Print it

[jag]

This. Except former Spur Steve Novak. He lent helping hands to Spur players on the floor.

Funny thing is that Novak is probably the biggest douche on that team. From meeting the guy, you'd think he was a perennial all star who shits golden nuggets.

[exstatic]

OKC should lose every game the rest of the season, fall out of the playoff race and get a nice draft pick to add to the team next year. No point being a borderline 8th seed playoff team with no chance of going further.

The BEST case if they miss the playoffs is slot #14. That gives them a 98.2% chance of picking #14, not much better than their pick now, and they'd be short a few million from a couple of playoff games.

[unleashbaynes]

Fuck OKC. Piece of shit rinky dink operation. Durant should have been off that foot for at least 3 months.

[cantthinkofanything]

OKC is in no-man's land. Number 8 seed, no lottery, superstar possibly damaged goods for his career. Have a score first point guard left to build around.

[ViceCity86]

Atleast 3 months of rest is recommended for elite level athletes with Jones fracture.He hurt himself in mid October.They should of never brought him back until all star break on cautionary side.Dumb fucks.

[Obstructed_View]

Atleast 3 months of rest is recommended for elite level athletes with Jones fracture.He hurt himself in mid October.They should of never brought him back until all star break on cautionary side.Dumb fucks.

Agreed 100%. Of course, didn't OKC just guarantee that nobody else will sign Durant by damaging him in a contract year when there's been talk of him making 200 million dollars?

[dbreiden83080]

It is amazing how the media and fans project a team into greatness and how things can change. In 2011 after they beat the Spurs and go to the finals all the talk was about how the torch had passed in the west and with Durant, Westbrook and Harden they will dominate the West for years winning multiple chips. FF one year later and Harden is in Houston and suddenly Westbrook is battling injuries. They have a great year last year winning 59 games with Durant winning the MVP but the old boring Spurs had something to say about them going back to the finals.. Now Durant is dealing with injuries and there is genuine panic he won't be able to get back to his old level.

[exstatic]

Clay Bennett is SO stupid. You NEVER get rid of talent like Harden over a couple of mil. Both Westbrook (meniscus, multiple) and Durant (Jones fracture) have dubious long term prognoses. Harden, meanwhile, cruises along, healthy as a horse.

[dbreiden83080]

Harden, meanwhile, cruises along, healthy as a horse.

Well for now.. Durant was Mr. Reliability until this season. I get why they traded Harden because it would have been 3 max deals on one team. And they probably would have tried to lowball him as well.

[exstatic]

Well for now.. Durant was Mr. Reliability until this season. I get why they traded Harden because it would have been 3 max deals on one team. And they probably would have tried to lowball him as well.

They DID lowball him, which was stupid. You don't trade that kind of talent. Philadelphia destroyed their team, for three years in a row, looking for ONE player that good.

If they had salary issues, they should have amnestied or traded Perk LONG before they actually did. That would have given them the $$$ that they needed, and he was no longer needed once Bynum left and Duncan moved to the high post.

[dbreiden83080]

They DID lowball him, which was stupid. You don't trade that kind of talent. Philadelphia destroyed their team, for three years in a row, looking for ONE player that good.

If they had salary issues, they should have amnestied or traded Perk LONG before they actually did. That would have given them the $$$ that they needed, and he was no longer needed once Bynum left and Duncan moved to the high post.

I don't think the dynamic was going to hold up in OKC with Harden there. The last 2 years people have been telling Westbrook he shoots too much and defer to Durant. Add Harden to that mix a guy who was leading the league in scoring most of this season and it's a very difficult situation to manage for any coach.

[baseline bum]

I don't think the dynamic was going to hold up in OKC with Harden there. The last 2 years people have been telling Westbrook he shoots too much and defer to Durant. Add Harden to that mix a guy who was leading the league in scoring most of this season and it's a very difficult situation to manage for any coach.

Harden loved the Ginobili comparisons and being the bench guy who closed the game, and no way he leaves if OKC didn't try to lowball him like he wasn't an all-star talent. That was all about money.

[baseline bum]

Presti is so full of shit acting like they care about Durant's long term health. Hopefully this is Durant realizing they didn't give a shit about his long term future and he is now saying fuck you to the Thunder. I posted the study in another Durant thread, the recommended wait is 8 weeks for a Jones fracture but among elite athletes the re-injury rate was 85% with only 8 weeks rest. Presti/Brooks brought Durant back in 7 weeks. Dumb fucks.

Yeah, I hope Durant recovers to become an MVP level player again, and I hope it's in Washington since OKC was so reckless with his future. They don't deserve a player like him when they were too cheap to keep a guaranteed title team together and then put the team's short term interests ahead of both sides' long term interests. OKC has great fans and they would have still showed up for games and bought season tickets with Durant ruled out for the season, just like they did with that lousy Hornets team. I don't understand at all what they were thinking. Getting a player like Durant is so rare for a franchise, I mean the league sees a guy like him enter maybe every 3 years or so, and with 30 teams your odds of getting another Kevin Durant aren't too good. Bennett is like their Red McCombs.

[UZER]

Atleast 3 months of rest is recommended for elite level athletes with Jones fracture.He hurt himself in mid October.They should of never brought him back until all star break on cautionary side.Dumb fucks.

Everyone and their mother knew Durant really shouldn't have even played this season. But OKC is known to panic.

They panicked two years ago and traded Harden.

They panicked after losing the first two last year and rushed Ibaka back.

They panicked this year while being under .500 and rushed Durant back....twice.

It's like they have insecurities about being out of the spotlight because they're in Oklahoma, and do everything they can stay relevant in every moment. They have no confidence to be patient even if that means losing a season.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Fuck okc. Getting exactly what they deserve, tbh.

Usually I feel bad for franchises battling injuries to their stars. Not this time.

[baseline bum]

Fuck okc. Getting exactly what they deserve, tbh.

Usually I feel bad for franchises battling injuries to their stars. Not this time.

I feel bad for Durant. Fuck the Thunder.

[baseline bum]

The BEST case if they miss the playoffs is slot #14. That gives them a 98.2% chance of picking #14, not much better than their pick now, and they'd be short a few million from a couple of playoff games.

They're currently on pace to pick #19, which would mean their selection goes to Cleveland (top 18 protected).

[soxxx]

I remember telling people back in 2012 that OKC was going to be Cavs 2.0 (getting to the finals an never getting back) Everyone was saying how they would reach so many finals and how easy it would be for them, and how bright of a future they have. The Thunder are a year away now from confirming that.

And honestly you can blame injury but keeping Scott Brooks has been the biggest issue with them, and now with Scott Brooks back next year in all likelihood, they have no chance of getting back even if healthy. Durant will leave for Washington in 2016, Westbrook will leave for LA in 2017.....

[DMC]

Everyone and their mother knew Durant really shouldn't have even played this season. But OKC is known to panic.

They panicked two years ago and traded Harden.

They panicked after losing the first two last year and rushed Ibaka back.

They panicked this year while being under .500 and rushed Durant back....twice.

It's like they have insecurities about being out of the spotlight because their in Oklahoma, and do everything they can stay relevant in every moment. They have no confidence to be patient even if that means losing a season.
The panicking goes deeper.

Amazing that a team that refused to sign Tyson Chandler because he once had a foot injury has ruined the best they ever had by playing him through a foot injury.

[RD2191]

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[dbreiden83080]

Harden loved the Ginobili comparisons and being the bench guy who closed the game, and no way he leaves if OKC didn't try to lowball him like he wasn't an all-star talent. That was all about money.

No chance he was going to be alright with being on that bench his whole career. Harden is an arrogant prick who loves the spotlight..

And every player wants to carve out their own legacy. Harden is on a hall of fame path the last few years of his career he needed to get out of OKC for that to happen. He was in the shadow of not just one but two players..

[baseline bum]

No chance he was going to be alright with being on that bench his whole career. Harden is an arrogant prick who loves the spotlight..

And every player wants to carve out their own legacy. Harden is on a hall of fame path the last few years of his career he needed to get out of OKC for that to happen. He was in the shadow of not just one but two players..

You're just hypothesizing. I'm going by what he actually said, over and over again.

[dbreiden83080]

You're just hypothesizing. I'm going by what he actually said, over and over again.

You honestly think he wanted to stay there and be a 3rd wheel? How does that make sense?

[exstatic]

You honestly think he wanted to stay there and be a 3rd wheel? How does that make sense?

Because he'd be co-first wheel now? The ONLY reason he left was money. If they'd have paid him, he'd have stayed.

[dbreiden83080]

Because he'd be co-first wheel now?

Uh okay. Did the contract come with a magic 8 ball?

[exstatic]

i don't know if you followed this when it went down, but he CLEARLY did not want to leave OKC. It's also not a stretch to think that over the life of the contract, one of the other two would get injured in some fashion.

[baseline bum]

Man I wish Harden really would have been the third wheel in the 2012 WCF.

[mystargtr34]

I'm with dbreiden.. I can't imagine a scenario where you have three MVP level talents like Harden, Westbrook and Durant approaching their primes and having to share one basketball.. especially al being perimeter guys.. One of Harden or Westbrook had to go.

[tp2021]

I'm with dbreiden.. I can't imagine a scenario where you have three MVP level talents like Harden, Westbrook and Durant approaching their primes and having to share one basketball.. especially al being perimeter guys.. One of Harden or Westbrook had to go.

Eventually, maybe. MAYBE. But if so, why not ride that shit out until then?

[Spur|n|Austin]

A 1/8 should be a cakewalk.

Tell that to last year's Spurs.

[FkLA]

I don't think its entirely OKC's fault. I'm pretty sure if Ginobili demanded the max in the Summer of '04 or Rique demanded it later on the Spurs Big 3 would've disbanded too. Not every team can get players under market value like the Spurs did tbh.

Also IIRC Abaka's contract was coming up around the the same time too.

[baseline bum]

I don't think its entirely OKC's fault. I'm pretty sure if Ginobili demanded the max in the Summer of '04 or Rique demanded it later on the Spurs Big 3 would've disbanded too. Not every team can get players under market value like the Spurs did tbh.

Also IIRC Abaka's contract was coming up around the the same time too.

The Spurs wouldn't have had the option of renouncing Nesterovich like the Thunder could have done with Perkins though.

[FkLA]

The Spurs wouldn't have had the option of renouncing Nesterovich like the Thunder could have done with Perkins though.

Three max players is three max players though. Plus imagine they had another young, elite defensive big to take care of. Not sure how comfortable a small market team like the Spurs would feel filling out the roster on such a limited budget after those four got paid.

[Obstructed_View]

I mean the league sees a guy like him enter maybe every 3 years or so,

Due to his consistency and longevity to this point, I think it's quite a bit less often than that. I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm simply saying he's even better than that. Maybe your math is correct, but it seems like if you had a one-in-three chance of getting a KD with the first pick in the draft, the league would be a lot better than it is. I'd go so far as to say he's a one in ten year type guy. In 20 years we may all agree that the Thunder had three ten year guys on the same team and screwed it up.

[Obstructed_View]

Three max players is three max players though. Plus imagine they had another young, elite defensive big to take care of. Not sure how comfortable a small market team like the Spurs would feel filling out the roster on such a limited budget after those four got paid.

Not sure how good an idea it is to pay three max guys who all demand to be paid the max. Truth is, the Thunder could possibly have gotten all of their guys to take less if they'd done it right. Signing Perkins when they had Durant, Ibaka, Westbrook and Harden was extremely short-sighted on their part, and then giving Harden a hard timeline was just stupid.

[baseline bum]

Due to his consistency and longevity to this point, I think it's quite a bit less often than that. I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm simply saying he's even better than that. Maybe your math is correct, but it seems like if you had a one-in-three chance of getting a KD with the first pick in the draft, the league would be a lot better than it is. I'd go so far as to say he's a one in ten year type guy. In 20 years we may all agree that the Thunder had three ten year guys on the same team and screwed it up.

Starting in 1987 with the Robinson draft, I can think of eleven players drafted who I'd consider in the same class of elite franchise player as Durant. So maybe every 2.5 years is a better approximation.

David Robinson 1987
Scottie Pippen 1987
Shaquille O'Neal 1993
Kevin Garnett 1995
Kobe Bryant 1996
Tim Duncan 1997
Dirk Nowitzki 1998
LeBron James 2003
Dwyane Wade 2003
Kevin Durant 2007
Anthony Davis 2012

I don't think CP3, Blake, Rose, Howard, Westbrook, Kidd, or Payton is comparable to any of these guys. Kind of funny how the elite talent seems to come in bursts in between really down blocks of years.

[Obstructed_View]

Starting in 1987 with the Robinson draft, I can think of eleven players drafted who I'd consider in the same class of elite franchise player as Durant. So maybe every 2.5 years is a better approximation.

David Robinson 1987
Scottie Pippen 1987
Shaquille O'Neal 1993
Kevin Garnett 1995
Kobe Bryant 1996
Tim Duncan 1997
Dirk Nowitzki 1998
LeBron James 2003
Dwyane Wade 2003
Kevin Durant 2007
Anthony Davis 2012

I don't think CP3, Blake, Rose, Howard, Westbrook, Kidd, or Payton is comparable to any of these guys. Kind of funny how the elite talent seems to come in bursts in between really down blocks of years.

That's a fair list. I figured you'd done the math. I think maybe you've been a bit generous, though I don't think any of the names on your list are bad choices. Certainly they're all franchise talents. I was thinking more of guys who were definite number one picks going into the draft, which would mean, Robinson, Duncan, Shaq, James, and Davis. I didn't remember Greg Oden when I posted above. :)

[MateoNeygro]

Damn, that sucks for the Thunder and their fans. A healthy OKC vs. Golden State in the first round would of been some fun basketball to watch. So many good match ups. Bummer.