Leonard..I get to play more freely at times rather him ( POP) limiting me.

[apalisoc_9]

Even Leonard feel likes the system limits him offensively..

Mainstream fans.:lol

[dabom]

Everyone knows this except mainstream fans. They think the system helps kawhi. :lmao

Whenever I see kawhi get 4 picknrolls in one play, I'll call him a system player. :lmao

[illusioNtEk]

You with your dumb threads.... everything you say 99% of the time is common knowledge. It's no wonder the majority of the members want you banned.

It seems we are not watching the same team because so far it seems that this Spurs team needs all cylinders going into high gear.
Only thing we missing is Patty Mills coming off the bench wreaking havoc on both ends of the floor.

No hard feelings man, just please stop with the flooding :(

[spurraider21]

considering we made b2b finals with his limited role, i think it's been fine. his role has expanded as he's shown he's ready for it. he's currently the spurs leading scorer

[Silver&Black]

:lol Player Fans

[dabom]

considering we made b2b finals with his limited role, i think it's been fine. his role has expanded as he's shown he's ready for it. he's currently the spurs leading scorer

What kinda shitty take is this. He was 1b with tim duncan for 3 years in a row faggot.

[apalisoc_9]

This has nothing to do with how the team played. Obviously Leonard is a team player like Manu and tim so he didn't whine and sulk when Pop limited him offensively in the last two years..Instead he played the best basketball he can.

The point of this thread is that prior to this year, people thought the system helped him score 13ppg:lmao..While more knowledgeable fans knew he was a 20 ppg in a system that doesn't limit him offensively.

even this year Pop still limits him.

[spurraider21]

prior to this year, people thought the system helped him score 13ppg
this isn't true. his efficiency and effectiveness was likely helped earlier. everybody knew his raw numbers were held back.

[dabom]

:lol Player Fans

Shitty take by a shitty poster. Nothing new here. :lmao

[dabom]

this isn't true. his efficiency and effectiveness was likely helped earlier. everybody knew his raw numbers were held back.

2014-15 Real Plus-Minus


RK
NAME
TEAM
GP
MPG
ORPM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/ORPM)
DRPM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM)
RPM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM)
WAR (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm)


1
Stephen Curry (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3975/stephen-curry), PG
GS
72
32.9
7.34
1.82
9.16
17.60


2
James Harden (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3992/james-harden), SG
HOU
74
36.9
7.94
0.72
8.66
18.30


3
LeBron James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james), SF
CLE
64
36.3
5.74
1.99
7.73
14.15


4
Kawhi Leonard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard), SF
SA
57
31.9
2.66
4.78
7.44
10.60


5
Chris Paul (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2779/chris-paul), PG
LAC
76
35.0
6.14
0.82
6.96
14.96





:lmao

[spurraider21]

moron couldn't even read my post fully, and posted a stat that doesn't make an argument one way or another.

[dabom]

I remember early in the season, the team didn't know how to move away from kawhi when he tried to post up or iso. Making it harder for kawhi to score.
Shitty posters calling Kawhi inefficient cause the fucking team didn't know how to become role players.
A lot of ya faggots eating crow like usual. :lmao

[spurraider21]

this is one of the more obnoxious alts on spurstalk, and that's saying something

[dabom]

this is one of the more obnoxious alts on spurstalk, and that's saying something

Can't deny what I'm saying. :lmao

You're one of those faggots eating crow. :lmao

Faggot. :lmao

[spurraider21]

the spurs were trying very hard to get kawhi more involved than the past, and the team was struggling to adapt to the new kawhi-post-centric offense. the results were poor but they were growing paints.

this is all known and is what was said at the time. the circlejerk crew loves to revise history with "everybody said kawhi sucked" bullshit. the only person that actually mentions kawhi sucking is TheGreatFaggot who is another known troll

[dabom]

the spurs were trying very hard to get kawhi more involved than the past, and the team was struggling to adapt to the new kawhi-post-centric offense. the results were poor but they were growing paints.

this is all known and is what was said at the time. the circlejerk crew loves to revise history with "everybody said kawhi sucked" bullshit. the only person that actually mentions kawhi sucking is TheGreatFaggot who is another known troll

You weren't a critique faggot. Constantly attacking the man. We know which side you were on all this time. Trying to jump into the "Everyone knew this" circle. :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Yeah I remember how Posters started to claim that Kawhi was nothing but a defensive player since he can't handle being a go to guy..:lol

But major Props to Tim and Tiago though..They have learned how to play with kawhi as an offensive option..their spacing at times is still pretty bad, but Tim and Tiago are the two guys that had to adjust their game. Tim had to give up touches, plenty of them..His usage rate is has been reduced significantly with Kawhi's new role in the last 20 games.

Parker is really the only one who hasn't adjusted his game..and he's played awful because he's too much of a me me kinda player.

[apalisoc_9]

What's concerning is that Parker usage rate hasn't dropped while his play has dropped to that of top 20 pg player..

Some good games here and there but mostly bad games resulting from him trying too hard and playing piss poor defense.

[dabom]

This team looks like it has turned into kawhi-reliant just like the spurs were tony-reliant in 2013.

[will_spurs]

http://i.imgur.com/WkvgdBX.png

Great thread.

[dabom]

This faggot always craving attention. :lmao

An apol thread but he comes in here and adds nothing of substance. :lmao

[MI21]

I think the Spurs need to adjust there entire style tbh.

Kawhi should be shooting 25-30 times per game.

[dabom]

I think the Spurs need to adjust there entire style tbh.

Kawhi should be shooting 25-30 times per game.

Too little man.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Dude, Kawhi was not ready to take on a bigger until this year. It started with last year's final. Look at his jumpshot. It even has improved from last year. The system limits everyone as it suppose to get the best shot possible no matter who is open.

Pop has proven that he is way better at coaching than any of us armchair GM/HC's in this forum. He knew it was Kwahi time in last year's final and he was right. Kawhi was doing great this year until he tore a ligament in his hand which set him back a couple of months.

[Raven]

I think the Spurs need to adjust there entire style tbh.

Kawhi should be shooting 25-30 times per game.

no thank's :lol

[pgardn]

Too little man.

40 shots a game.

And son, I told you to shave that sparse facial hair and get the get dem hell outta my chair. Now make me some breakfast and get your ass some while you're at it. Get dem parroting and patronizing some other get dem fool on this site sickens me. Go get a branch off the tree, time to beat some sense into that prepubic head of yours after you finish.

Go.

[cantthinkofanything]

Leonard is going to exponentially be a better player by going through the Spurs system. Pop is making him develop parts of his game that he wouldn't have if Spurs just cut him loose from day one. Hopefully KL gets this and will stick around. He'll be a better player for it.

[BillMc]

Leonard is going to exponentially be a better player by going through the Spurs system. Pop is making him develop parts of his game that he wouldn't have if Spurs just cut him loose from day one. Hopefully KL gets this and will stick around. He'll be a better player for it.

I think he does get it. What were his words to Pop when they won? "Thanks for pushing me." He wants to be great, and he knows he's got the coach to help him do that. Pop and Chip have been working with him doggedly, a lot of film of Jordan and Barkley. You can see it in those post moves...

[Cry Havoc]

ITT: People who know more about basketball than Gregg Popovich, but aren't making millions coaching because :cry it wouldn't be fair to the other teams, they'd see my fedora and just forfeit :cry

[weebo]

This has nothing to do with how the team played. Obviously Leonard is a team player like Manu and tim so he didn't whine and sulk when Pop limited him offensively in the last two years..Instead he played the best basketball he can.

The point of this thread is that prior to this year, people thought the system helped him score 13ppg:lmao..While more knowledgeable fans knew he was a 20 ppg in a system that doesn't limit him offensively.

even this year Pop still limits him.

The "system" allowed KL to blossom into the offensive force he is becoming. Coming out of college KL was known more for defense and rebounding than scoring. The "system" allowed him to work on his offensive game (getting easier shots) by taking pressure off of him to score. There is a system in place in San Antonio (whether you want to admit it or not) that includes ball movement and sharing the basketball and when it is working everyone benefits, including KL.

[Clipper Nation]

ITT: Kawhi haters melting down, deflecting, and refusing to eat crow for their atrocious takes.

[SASdynasty!]

What kinda shitty take is this. He was 1b with tim duncan for 3 years in a row faggot.
Lol

[cjw]

He realizes the team will pay him and has already made him lots of money by developing him into the player he is today. On another team, he would have ended up making the same cash on his rookie deal but had he not been developed properly he may have been looking at half the contract $ he'll be getting next year.

But the people with blinders on believe he could have been a 20 ppg scorer by year two ... He's a special player, but not a prototypical player that would have necessarily flourished under all circumstances.

Just rest easy that nobody will ever wear #2 again after him and we're lucky that one of the most fun players to watch in the league for true fans will be locked up for many years to come.

[Blizzardwizard]

The Apalisoc Dabom Kawhi slurping shtick is possibly the worst Spurs forum shtick of the last couple of years. Sad really.

[SASdynasty!]

Yeah I remember how Posters started to claim that Kawhi was nothing but a defensive player since he can't handle being a go to guy..:lol

But major Props to Tim and Tiago though..They have learned how to play with kawhi as an offensive option..their spacing at times is still pretty bad, but Tim and Tiago are the two guys that had to adjust their game. Tim had to give up touches, plenty of them..His usage rate is has been reduced significantly with Kawhi's new role in the last 20 games.

Parker is really the only one who hasn't adjusted his game..and he's played awful because he's too much of a me me kinda player.
Lol, this coming on the heels of Parker setting up Kawhi over and over during his 15 point run. All while Kawhi has what 1 assist.

[Clipper Nation]

Lol, this coming on the heels of Parker setting up Kawhi over and over during his 15 point run. All while Kawhi has what 1 assist.
:lol Actually caring about raw assists in 2015 when they're known to be padded by the team statistician

http://regressing.deadspin.com/nba-court-factors-how-assists-arent-as-unbiased-as-you-1694917271

[Cry Havoc]

The Apalisoc Dabom Kawhi slurping shtick is possibly the worst Spurs forum shtick of the last couple of years. Sad really.

They're seriously giving xmas a run, although I doubt that was a schtick. :lol

[SASdynasty!]

The Apalisoc Dabom Kawhi slurping shtick is possibly the worst Spurs forum shtick of the last couple of years. Sad really.
Yah it's sad/embarrassing. What makes it worse is Kawhi is actually a really good player. His individual merits alone would warrant his accolades, but these guys have to pretend like the big 3 don't contribute anything, especially Parker (naturally, because they view him as Kawhi's greatest "threat" because he leads the team in scoring and assists, runs the offense, and is a perennial All-Star/All-NBA player and also a FMVP). Rather than acknowledge Parker's credentials they have to literally pretend like leading the team in all those categories means nothing and that outplaying Lebron and embarassing the Cavs in 2007 means nothing, even though Lebron put on one of the greatest performances of all-time the series before to knock out Detroit.

[Cry Havoc]

:lol Actually caring about raw assists in 2015 when they're known to be padded by the team statistician

http://regressing.deadspin.com/nba-court-factors-how-assists-arent-as-unbiased-as-you-1694917271

Except he didn't mention Parker's assist numbers. He was pointing out that Parker repeatedly passed the ball directly to Kawhi. Reading comprehension is your friend.

[SASdynasty!]

:lol Actually caring about raw assists in 2015 when they're known to be padded by the team statistician

http://regressing.deadspin.com/nba-court-factors-how-assists-arent-as-unbiased-as-you-1694917271
Lol you guys will do cartwheels to get away from reality. And what does it matter? I just said he was the team leader. You think the team statistician has a bias towards Parker and so he doesn't count Kawhi's assists? Is that why we never see Kawhi with many assists?

[kaji157]

If it wasn´t for the Spurs Leonard won´t be the player he is.
That is undebatable and i am sure Leonard agrees.
This is as obvious as the fact that the op is not banned only because we just don´t take him serious.

[Clipper Nation]

Except he didn't mention Parker's assist numbers. He was pointing out that Parker repeatedly passed the ball directly to Kawhi. Reading comprehension is your friend.
He was scoffing at Kawhi's assist numbers.

[Leetonidas]

this is one of the more obnoxious alts on spurstalk, and that's saying something

gnsf riding that Harlem dick real hard to try and be relevant tbh

[RD2191]

sas has to be the biggest cocksucker on this site. giving thegreatyacht a run for his money.

[Leetonidas]

Also it's funny to see Kawhi ascending to a highly productive two way player. I remember everyone sucking off PG last year and claiming Leonard was not on his level because he couldn't shoulder an offensive load. Meanwhile Kawhi wins the FMVP while PG gets owned by the Heat and then breaks his leg...:lol

[Leetonidas]

And :lmao @ casual fans that think Butler has shit on Kawhi. I wonder what kind of numbers Kawhi had if he played in the east on a mediocre team with a green light to do whatever he wants

[Brazil]

:lol again a retard argument from OP

Spurs system is making him a max player, dude won a FMVP, a ring and is in position to win another one during Spurs tenure... Silly argument to say Spurs / Pop is holding his development

He is developing pretty good tbh

[Silver&Black]

Who are all these "Kawhi haters" that CN, apal, and dabom are talking about? I want names.....

TGY and hater.....who else? 95% of the posters here love the guy, want him to get the max, want him to stay a Spur for life, and will admit that he's our most important/best player.

Again, I want names. :lol @ the people who think the majority of people on this site hates Kawhi.

[ChumpDumper]

OP is a terrible poster.

[K...]

I don't even think it's a real quote,apo just dreaming up kawhi fantasy scenarios

[ChumpDumper]

One would think the player fan krew would run out of straw at some point.

[Brazil]

I don't even think it's a real quote,apo just dreaming up kawhi fantasy scenarios

here under the exact quote:

"This is my fourth year and Coach Pop has confidence in me, so I get to do a little more out on the floor rather than having him limit me on the floor. It's just about working on your game off the floor and knowing where to go, and that's pretty much it."

From this quote I'm not sure you can interpret it the way OP is interpretating


Even Leonard feel likes the system limits him offensively..

Mainstream fans.:lol

In his quote Leonard does not invoke the system he is just saying Pop is trusting him and pushing him to do more rather than limiting him

In fact this quote seems to mean the exact opposite of what OP is interpretating it but it's not the first time he twists stuff to fill his personnal agenda or lie

[313]

this is one of the more obnoxious alts on spurstalk, and that's saying something

[313]

They're seriously giving xmas a run, although I doubt that was a schtick. :lol
:lol

[SASdynasty!]

sas has to be the biggest cocksucker on this site. giving thegreatyacht a run for his money.
The feeling is mutual. You're giving apo a run for his money.

[cantthinkofanything]

:lol again a retard argument from OP

Spurs system is making him a max player, dude won a FMVP, a ring and is in position to win another one during Spurs tenure... Silly argument to say Spurs / Pop is holding his development

He is developing pretty good tbh

This is exactly right. And the reason why any young player should want to come to the Spurs. Even if his goal is eventually play in a big city for max $, coming here is going to make him a better player in the long run and likely increase his options (financial and location) later.

[dabom]

Mainstream fans come out like cockroaches when they know you not around. FAgGOts. Lol

[dabom]

Kawhis gym rat attributes were noted before he joined the spurs. Thinking kawhi wouldn't be what he is today without the spurs is fucking fail. Lol

[pgardn]

Mainstream fans come out like cockroaches when they know you not around. FAgGOts. Lol

Mainstream...?

You worthless pile of festering, puss ridden, acne juice...

[ChumpDumper]

Mainstream fans come out like cockroaches when they know you not around. FAgGOts. LolThis is very important to you.

[dabom]

Acting like you were part of the movement after the fact. Fail.

[ChumpDumper]

Acting like you were part of the movement after the fact. Fail.The movement?

lol this is your religion now.

Some sad shit right there.

[Blizzardwizard]

Acting like you were part of the movement after the fact. Fail.

I call worst alt of 2014, unanimous decision?

[dabom]

Don't make me call you out faggot. Lol

[dabom]

Blizz exposed in apols bumped thread. Shut up faggot.

[Daniel Sedin]

Don't make me call you out faggot. Lol

Such a boring troll

[dabom]

Lololol

[ChumpDumper]

Don't make me call you out faggot. LolCall me out for what?

Heresy?

why did you guys choose this to be your religion?

[dabom]

Rhetoric my friend.

[Silver&Black]

Such a boring troll

:lol Trolls calling out other trolls

:tu Daniel Sedin

[ChumpDumper]

Rhetoric my friend.Rhetoric to what end?

Trolling?

[Henrik Sedin]

Such a boring troll

[Henrik Sedin]

:lol Trolls calling out other trolls

:tu Daniel Sedin
Not trolls, just twin hockey fans

[Clipper Nation]

Such a boring troll
Yeah, you are one.

[MVPCues]

Troll clusterfuck in here.

[Cry Havoc]

Acting like you were part of the movement after the fact. Fail.

:lmao

Movement.

We've officially ascended to xmas level of delusional troll-failing. :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How many people do you think there are between the apo, dabom, HH, , MH, and CN accounts?

I'm going with 2.

[manufan10]

How many people do you think there are between the apo, dabom, HH, , MH, and CN accounts?

I'm going with 2.

I'd say 2 as well.

[Outlier]

Does anyone take care of this forum? This is so sad. This place could be so much better if someone at least got rid of these trolls.

[TheGreatYacht]

Malik Hairston when are you giving your Alt that $100 poster of the month reward? Oh and give robdiaz2191 a shake weight and a diet plan while you're at it

[TheGreatYacht]

The Apalisoc Dabom Kawhi slurping shtick is possibly the worst Spurs forum shtick of the last couple of years. Sad really.

[Brazil]

How many people do you think there are between the apo, dabom, HH, , MH, and CN accounts?

I'm going with 2.

good bet

[therealtruth]

This team looks like it has turned into kawhi-reliant just like the spurs were tony-reliant in 2013.

I'm fine with that. He's proved it on the biggest stage against the best player in the world in the Finals. Unlike TP who's been known to shrink in the moment like '11 playoffs against Grizzlies.

[dabom]

I'm fine with that. He's proved it on the biggest stage against the best player in the world in the Finals. Unlike TP who's been known to shrink in the moment like '11 playoffs against Grizzlies.

There's a lot of those moments for tony tbh. :lol

Kawhi is someone who is a big gamer. Will never shrink in big games. Plays all 48 minutes tbh. Offense and defense. I'm glad he is steering the ship now. In good hands.

[Kool Bob Love]

There's a lot of those moments for tony tbh. :lol

Kawhi is someone who is a big gamer. Will never shrink in big games. Plays all 48 minutes tbh. Offense and defense. I'm glad he is steering the ship now. In good hands.

https://bendavidwong.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/screen-shot-2013-06-22-at-7-03-40-pm.png

[dabom]

1 single free throw the whole series? :lmao

I swear faggots trying too hard. :lmao

[Kool Bob Love]

1 single free throw the whole series? :lmao

I swear faggots trying too hard. :lmao
Re-read what you posted. "Big gamer...will NEVER shrink in big games..."

look at his face b.

kawhi just needs to be happy he had the big 3 hold his hand last year. Once they leave the Spurs are lottery bound.

[Clipper Nation]

https://bendavidwong.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/screen-shot-2013-06-22-at-7-03-40-pm.png

http://i.imgur.com/lmu9eUq.jpg

[dabom]

Lol kool bob such a fucking hater man. Calls himself a spurs fan. Lol

[Kool Bob Love]

Lol kool bob such a fucking hater man. Calls himself a spurs fan. Lol

578009528349827072

[ChumpDumper]

Lol kool bob such a fucking hater man. Calls himself a spurs fan. LolYou're too sensitive.

[Kool Bob Love]

im a clown



http://youtu.be/bPxEmxKf0Dc

[Clipper Nation]

Now post the video of that 3-12 disappearing act in Game 7.

[Kool Bob Love]

Now post the video of that 3-12 disappearing act in Game 7.

Lebron james with the best game of his career courtesy of Kawhi Leanord.

game winner to Kawhis face and the clutch free throws. Something Kawhi wish he could do.


http://youtu.be/6szZ4hbumT0

[RD2191]

Lebron james with the best game of his career courtesy of Kawhi Leanord.


http://youtu.be/6szZ4hbumT0
http://cdn.solecollector.com/media/up/2014/06/images/kawhi-leonard-jordan-brand-future-01.jpg

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lebron james with the best game of his career courtesy of Kawhi Leanord.

game winner to Kawhis face and the clutch free throws. Something Kawhi wish he could do.


http://youtu.be/6szZ4hbumT0

Dude, don't buy what they are selling. He wants you to shit on Kawhi and be divisive. They aren't fans of any of our players no matter what they claim.

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, don't buy what they are selling. He wants you to shit on Kawhi and be divisive. They aren't fans of any of our players no matter what they claim.
Speak for yourself. I'm a huge fan of Kawhi and Duncan. I'm not even a Spurs fan and I appreciate Kawhi more than 90% of Spurs fans.

[dabom]

Clips with the good.

[apalisoc_9]

Speak for yourself. I'm a huge fan of Kawhi and Duncan. I'm not even a Spurs fan and I appreciate Kawhi more than 90% of Spurs fans.

[itzsoweezee]

Holy crap, look at Kawhi's shooting stats from different areas of the floor.
He should just stop taking above the break threes and his scoring would become even more ridiculous.

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?PerMode=Totals&DistanceRange=By%20Zone&sort=Mid-Range%20FG%20PCT&dir=1&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star&CF=Mid-Range%20FGA*GE*100

[wildchild]

Dude, don't buy what they are selling. He wants you to shit on Kawhi and be divisive. They aren't fans of any of our players no matter what they claim.

For real? You think Kool Bob needs help to shit on Kawhi? The guy who called him retarded kid in every thread last season?

He's always insulting Kawhi but...good for you and your double standard!

[wildchild]

Yah it's sad/embarrassing. What makes it worse is Kawhi is actually a really good player.

Sure? You said last week he's just a really good defender.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

For real? You think Kool Bob needs help to shit on Kawhi? The guy who called him retarded kid in every thread last season?

He's always insulting Kawhi but...good for you and your double standard!

I don't recall that. If that is the case then I am mistaken. My point as to their intent still stands.

[Russo21]

Pop his limited pretty much every player he ever coached for the benefit of the team. Prime Tim Duncan had the most complete offensive game for a big man you'll ever see. In his first MVP season where he averaged 25.5ppg he only took 18.3 shots per game which was his career high in field goal attempts.

Compare that to others players whose highest FG attempts in one season: Kobe 27.2, Shaq 21.1, Jordan 27.8, LBJ 23.1, Robinson 20.7, Dirk 20.0, Hakeem 21.5 just a few examples. So yes, numbers wise and for the benefit of the team Pop does hold players back in regards to shots per game.

[wildchild]

the only person that actually mentions kawhi sucking is TheGreatFaggot who is another known troll


Who are all these "Kawhi haters" that CN, apal, and dabom are talking about? I want names.....

TGY and hater.....who else? 95% of the posters here love the guy, want him to get the max, want him to stay a Spur for life, and will admit that he's our most important/best player.

Again, I want names. :lol @ the people who think the majority of people on this site hates Kawhi.

Well, some of those who call him role player, just good defender, not a great player, can't be a good offensive player, he has a fragile mind, he's a big pussy, retarded kid...

TGY, hater, Hoops, PingPong, DMC, Kool Bob Love, Capt Bringdown, SASdinasty!, ducks, SnakeBoy, N0 LyF3 ScRuB, tholdren...

[wildchild]

Spurs system is making him a max player, dude won a FMVP, a ring and is in position to win another one during Spurs tenure... Silly argument to say Spurs / Pop is holding his development

He is developing pretty good tbh

Agree with you, he had the opportunities to win everything in San Antonio last season. But you should admit the Spurs system isn't designed for an all around SF takes offensive protagonism, his offensive development doesn't seem a priority of this team.

[K...]

Pop his limited pretty much every player he ever coached for the benefit of the team. Prime Tim Duncan had the most complete offensive game for a big man you'll ever see. In his first MVP season where he averaged 25.5ppg he only took 18.3 shots per game which was his career high in field goal attempts.

Compare that to others players whose highest FG attempts in one season: Kobe 27.2, Shaq 21.1, Jordan 27.8, LBJ 23.1, Robinson 20.7, Dirk 20.0, Hakeem 21.5 just a few examples. So yes, numbers wise and for the benefit of the team Pop does hold players back in regards to shots per game.

this is awful, do you remember who else was on that 1998 team...? Prime RObison? maybe you might want to give him some shots? What do i know, im not an all time great nba coach.

[K...]

LOL Pop didn't limit anyone. The talent level did. We had too many all stars. I mean if you have an all time big, maybe you give him all the shot? You want a role player to be alpha over duncan? You are out of your mind. This team has been Duncan first until around 2012 when Parker and then later the system got keys to the offense. And then 2014 when Kawhi, green, and splitter became better than duncan on defense.

Kawhi has made amazing strides every year. No one knows where he would end up on another team but it's hard to imaigine a better result than with the leagues/ best coach, best shooting coach, best teammates, all time great players, and the coyote.

Kawhi has in fact been mega spoiled as a spur.

[milkyway21]

This has nothing to do with how the team played. Obviously Leonard is a team player like Manu and tim so he didn't whine and sulk when Pop limited him offensively in the last two years..Instead he played the best basketball he can.

The point of this thread is that prior to this year, people thought the system helped him score 13ppg:lmao..While more knowledgeable fans knew he was a 20 ppg in a system that doesn't limit him offensively.

even this year Pop still limits him.

I guess this was posted after the Spurs played against Orlando when the Spurs clinched play-off berth BUT LEONARD was not the best player, Baynes scored 18 & Manu 13. And APA..9 is sulking....Pop chose to sit Kawhi after 20min with only 10 pts & 7 rbds...:lol

[lefty]

Leonard..I get to play more freely at times rather him ( ENRIQUE) limiting me. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246015&p=7902794)

[milkyway21]

Leonard..I get to play more freely at times rather him ( ENRIQUE) limiting me. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246015&p=7902794)


:lmao



That Duncan 1fga, Manu 6 fga, & TP 4 fga vs Denver was a surprise.

Kawhi your turn....Fire! Shoot while you can...in the 1st half (10fga?)
Pop might sit you in the 4th. LOL