Neil Degrasse Tyson on scientology v christianity

[RD2191]

Now make a point or this convo is over.

[ChumpDumper]

The Bible.The Bible that some dude wrote, some other dude translated and some other dudes decided it could be the Bible.

[rogues]

Deep and lubeless
Just like your ex wife

[RD2191]

The Bible that some dude wrote, some other dude translated and some other dudes decided it could be the Bible.
Yes, the Bible that men anointed by God wrote, yes.

[RD2191]

Just like your ex wife
:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, the Bible that men anointed by God wrote, yes.How did god anoint them?

[cantthinkofanything]

You fuckers need to do this by text or phone. Is IM still around? Niggas be fucking up Spurstalk.

[ChumpDumper]

You fuckers need to do this by text or phone. Is IM still around? Niggas be fucking up Spurstalk.gtown started spamming for some reason.

[Blake]

you are reading out of context and picking and choosing what you read.

That's exactly what you're doing when you disregard the OT.

lol damn you're dumb.

[Blake]

You keep calling me stupid but you're the guy who didn't realize their wife was cheating on him for how many years? oh and you fell for an april fools joke, twice.

Oh look det burn is like Moses bush

[RD2191]

That's exactly what you're doing when you disregard the OT.

lol damn you're dumb.
no, go on reading and you will understand. if you want to pick and choose then go ahead.

[RD2191]

How did god anoint them?
Spiritually, he chose them.

[Blake]

21 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/7/#v40007021) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14120779/) 22 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/7/#v40007022) Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14120818/) did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14120832/) 23 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/7/#v40007023) And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14120856/)

Now you're picking and choosing what you want to read

[ChumpDumper]

Spiritually, he chose them.How could anyone else tell?

[Blake]

no, go on reading and you will understand. if you want to pick and choose then go ahead.

I understand you're stupid and ignorant.

[Blake]

The Bible.

But just the parts you like, tbh.

[m>s]

Just like your ex wife

Damn rogues making an armored thrust past enemy lines and now the enemy in disarray

[RD2191]

How could anyone else tell?
One probably couldn't tell. Maybe the people who lived then saw something that we can't? I would say it takes faith. But there is a difference. The men who wrote the bible were anointed iirc in a ceremonial way. Oil and i'm not sure what was used. Anointed still exist today and are going to heaven but they aren't treated any differently than any other member of the organization. (jehovahs witnesses)m not sure what any other faiths/religions do or what they believe.

[RD2191]

I understand you're stupid and ignorant.
did you keep on reading yes or no?

[m>s]

The minute we hear...there was a bombing today in........what do all of us think, yep....FUCKING MUSLIMS! Right?

Who is thinking....THOSE FUCKING CHRISTIANS....yep, nobody! Right?


I would thibk hunk cuck jr bombed a church

[ChumpDumper]

One probably couldn't tell. Maybe the people who lived then saw something that we can't? I would say it takes faith. But there is a difference. The men who wrote the bible were anointed iirc in a ceremonial way. Oil and i'm not sure what was used. Anointed still exist today and are going to heaven but they aren't treated any differently than any other member of the organization. (jehovahs witnesses)m not sure what any other faiths/religions do or what they believe.So who decides to physically anoint them with oil?

[RD2191]

So who decides to physically anoint them with oil?
Back then? I really don't know. Priests or other men of God at the time I assume. Would have to research it more to give you an answer.

[Blake]

did you keep on reading yes or no?

just say what you're getting at, so i can lol and call you stupid already

[Blake]

Damn rogues making an armored thrust past enemy lines and now the enemy in disarray

lol messageboard enemies

[RD2191]

it all comes back to faith chump. Sure those men could of been lying and maybe some were bad but that's the point of the scripture I posted. One assumes they weren't because of prophecy and what not. There are plenty of shitty people that go to church but one has to wish them the best and hope they change their ways. A person goes to serve God because of what is in his heart.

[ChumpDumper]

Back then? I really don't know. Priests or other men of God at the time I assume. Would have to research it more to give you an answer.Did God tell those guys that they were worthy of anointing?

I might need a flowchart to figure this out.

[RD2191]

just say what you're getting at, so i can lol and call you stupid already
We've been through this before Blake. Do you not remember?

[RD2191]

Did God tell those guys that they were worthy of anointing?

I might need a flowchart to figure this out.
Don't know. Still have to read more on the subject.

[Blake]

We've been through this before Blake. Do you not remember?

All I see here is you making shit up as you go so I have no clue what retarded point you're trying to make. Just get to it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I hear about all kinds of violence and stupidity from all kinds of religions.

One religion does not have the market cornered.

One religion definitely has the violence aspect cornered, why do refuse to admit that?

[RD2191]

All I see here is you making shit up as you go so I have no clue what retarded point you're trying to make. Just get to it.
What have I made up? Are you talking out of your ass now? Do you not remember when we discussed old testament law last time? I'm sure you do but are being willfully ignorant.

[ChumpDumper]

it all comes back to faith chump. Sure those men could of been lying and maybe some were bad but that's the point of the scripture I posted. One assumes they weren't because of prophecy and what not. There are plenty of shitty people that go to church but one has to wish them the best and hope they change their ways. A person goes to serve God because of what is in his heart.What it comes down to is that at some point a person decides he is carrying out the direct will of God. I have no doubt that some really believed that God spoke directly to them, but I also have no doubt that a guy like Verne Howell thought the same thing. Whether the person's initial intentions are benign or not, the end result is some form of control over other people with all the problems that can arise from it.

[Blake]

What have I made up? Are you talking out of your ass now? Do you not remember when we discussed old testament law last time? I'm sure you do but are being willfully ignorant.

I don't know what you're specifically referring to so fir the third time, just get to it.

You're making all sorts of shit up about what the Bible says and which parts are ok and which parts you can toss in the trash. Complete ass talking.

[ChumpDumper]

One religion definitely has the violence aspect cornered, why do refuse to admit that?[/COLOR]Because it doesn't.

[rogues]

One religion definitely has the violence aspect cornered, why do refuse to admit that?[/COLOR]
Liberal athiest agenda, tbh..

:cry "All religions are bad, there isn't one that is by default less evil than others!" :cry

[RD2191]

I don't know what you're specifically referring to so fir the third time, just get to it.

You're making all sorts of shit up about what the Bible says and which parts are ok and which parts you can toss in the trash. Complete ass talking.
No I'm not. Post what I am making up.

[RD2191]

Everything I have posted is from the Bible.

[Blake]

Liberal athiest agenda, tbh..

:cry "All religions are bad, there isn't one that is by default less evil than others!" :cry

Nobody said that.

Thunder meth agenda

[Blake]

Everything I have posted is from the Bible.

I posted a direct quote from Jesus that you said didn't count. You're making up your own rules.

[RD2191]

What it comes down to is that at some point a person decides he is carrying out the direct will of God. I have no doubt that some really believed that God spoke directly to them, but I also have no doubt that a guy like Verne Howell thought the same thing. Whether the person's initial intentions are benign or not, the end result is some form of control over other people with all the problems that can arise from it.
But bad people exist everywhere, not just religion. I'm sure if a scientist said drink this and this even though it's poison many people would do it. That's why it all comes back to the Bible. Reading it and studying it carefully will let a person know if what they're being taught is right or wrong.

[RD2191]

I posted a direct quote from Jesus that you said didn't count. You're making up your own rules.
Of course it counts. I'm saying you don't know what it means or what the context is. I can pick and book and take a verse out of it and make it seem like something else. That is what you are doing. The Bible doesn't work like that. You have to study and read it carefully to understand it. Which you obviously don't.

[m>s]

One religion definitely has the violence aspect cornered, why do refuse to admit that?[/COLOR]
Cognitive dissonance, it goes against the dogma

[RD2191]

Genesis 9:6 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
6 Anyone shedding man’s blood, by man will his own blood be shed, for in God’s image He made man.

Exodus 21:12 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
12 “Anyone who strikes a man so that he dies must be put to death.

Numbers 35:31 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
31 You must take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is deserving to die, for he should be put to death without fail.

Deuteronomy 19:11-13 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
11 “But if a man hated his fellow man and he was waiting to attack him and he fatally wounded him and he died, and the man has fled to one of these cities,12 the elders of his city should then summon him from there and deliver him into the hand of the avenger of blood, and he must die. 13 You should not feel sorry for him, and you must remove the guilt of innocent blood out of Israel, so that it may go well for you.

[RD2191]

Murder was wrong even in the old testament.

[ChumpDumper]

But bad people exist everywhere, not just religion. I'm sure if a scientist said drink this and this even though it's poison many people would do it.You're sure? The whole point of science is to question people like that and demand proof from them. That kind of stuff doesn't fly in most organized religions. At a certain point, it just comes down to "because I [God] said so."
That's why it all comes back tot he Bible. Reading it and studying it carefully will let a person know if what they're being taught is right or wrong.How would that tell you what was OK to drink?

[ChumpDumper]

Murder was wrong even in the old testament.But all kind of killing was sanctioned and encouraged, right?

[RD2191]

You're sure? The whole point of science is to question people like that and demand proof from them. That kind of stuff doesn't fly in most organized religions. At a certain point, it just comes down to "because I [God] said so."How would that tell you what was OK to drink?
Most ordinary people do not question science. They have faith in them and take their word for it.

What? That was an example.

[RD2191]

But all kind of killing was sanctioned and encouraged, right?
Nope.

[RD2191]

Killing occurred but remember that God had chosen people back then. He had land that belonged to his people.

[ChumpDumper]

Most ordinary people do not question science. They have faith in them and take their word for it.The proof is readily available and documented and repeatable.


What? That was an example.How do you know your water is safe to drink? Did the Bible tell you?

[ChumpDumper]

Killing occurred but remember that God had chosen people back then. He had land that belonged to his people.
And all kinds of killings were sanctioned and encouraged, right?

[RD2191]

The proof is readily available and documented and repeatable.

How do you know your water is safe to drink? Did the Bible tell you?
Not all of it. Can you repeat evolution for instance? Can you make a fish walk on water?

?? people have been drinking water for thousand of years. Does anyone really know that their water is safe? it could be poisoned or contaminated very easily.

[RD2191]

And all kinds of killings were sanctioned and encouraged, right?
nope

[TheSanityAnnex]

Because it doesn't.
Name another religion today that is equally violent.

[ChumpDumper]

Not all of it. Can you repeat evolution for instance? Can you make a fish walk on water?Evolution can and is currently being observed. It's fascinating stuff.


?? people have been drinking water for thousand of years. Does anyone really know that their water is safe? it could be poisoned or contaminated very easily.How do you know your water is safe to drink?

You obviously assume it is safe to drink and take no precautions before you drink it. Why do you feel it is safe?

[ChumpDumper]

Name another religion today that is equally violent.What is your metric of violence?

[ChumpDumper]

nopeYet they were.

[RD2191]

Evolution can and is currently being observed. It's fascinating stuff.

How do you know your water is safe to drink?

You obviously assume it is safe to drink and take no precautions before you drink it. Why do you feel it is safe?
Have you observed it or do you take another mans word for it?

Because I live in the USA.

[cantthinkofanything]

What is your metric of violence?

chopping off heads and setting people on fire in cages

[RD2191]

Yet they were.
Okay lets see your scriptures.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What is your metric of violence?
We'll make it simple and just use killing in the name of their religion.

[ChumpDumper]

Have you observed it or do you take another mans word for it?The experiment is ongoing and there to see.

It's repeatable if anyone chooses to do so.

Would take awhile though.


Because I live in the USA.Why is the water safe in the USA?

[RD2191]

No one is claiming science is bad, chump. The point is it can be used to commit evil just like religion.

[ChumpDumper]

No one is claiming science is bad, chump. The point is it can be used to commit evil just like religion.Who said it couldn't?

That's not really a reason to prefer religion, just equating it to science.

[ChumpDumper]

We'll make it simple and just use killing in the name of their religion.So I'll need all the statistics for all the killings made in the name of every religion.

Thanks in advance.

[ChumpDumper]

Okay lets see your scriptures.I'll just post the first link in the Google search.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nope.


Christianity up until Aquinas had a policy that no thought was valid that did not consider Christ. The punishments for heresy during this era were rather brutal. Aquinas' 'contribution' to science was allowing the freedom to not have to fixate on God but rather not contradict dogma. Aquinas also made comments about the nature of infinity and various papist society heads interfered in the mathematics. Euler had to go all the way out to Russia to get a job because of his infinite topology which was rejected by the west. LaGrange blackballed LaPlace and his infinite harmonic integrals for similar reasons. The church famously opposed the science afrophysicist specializes in back in the renaissance.

Currently there are christian academies that teach well documented nonsense in 'science' classes. Comments on geology, paleontology, archeology, anthropology, cosmology and all manner of bullshit. The textbook stuff is well documented. There are still constant denunciations from religious demagogues regarding scientific findings that contradict dogma. You also have a weird dynamic because of the makeup of the GOP where economic and special interest starts getting mixed in with God stuff. You see it from the sermons given to various congregations. The dumbfucks the GOP puts in charge of the science committees are another good example of this.

The Muslims like to gun down girls in school. The mullahs in the hills of the Taliban have schools teach only the Koran and the Sunna and that is it. They are also the political leaders. They are very pragmatic when it comes to science that is used to kill the enemy but Muslim countries still often have heresy laws and their clerics do not just use influence at the pulpit.

The Hindus are apparently doing the textbook shit too. They are trying to have their textbooks say that flying was invented 1000s of years ago because of shit from the Gita. Flying elephants and cities and all manner of delightful nonsense.

The general mechanism behind all of this is the church hoarding it's authority. They claim dogma is from God so when anything contradicts or does not affirm then it is opposed.

[RD2191]

Who said it couldn't?

That's not really a reason to prefer religion, just equating it to science.
So then what was your point? What is your point? That religion can be used to commit evil? Sure it can. One can say that the entire world is in a shithole because of false religion aka Babylon. Babylon will be destroyed soon.

[RD2191]

I'll just post the first link in the Google search.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
Already been through that site and it's full of shit. Out of context and picking and choosing.

[ChumpDumper]

The shebears' mauling 40 children for calling a dude "baldy" is a perennial favorite.

[RD2191]

Post another site.

[ChumpDumper]

Already been through that site and it's full of shit. Out of context and picking and choosing.So killing is not sanctioned or encouraged in any way in the bible?

This is your claim?

[TheSanityAnnex]

So I'll need all the statistics for all the killings made in the name of every religion.

Thanks in advance.
I said currently, and stop pussy footing around it and just answer. Which other religion today is equally as violent as Islam?

[RD2191]

Not sure what your point is fuzzy. I already stated that religion can and has and is being used to commit evil.

[ChumpDumper]

Post another site.Nah.

Go ahead and choose your favorites to debunk. I'll understand if you want to use a different version of the bible.



Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

[ChumpDumper]

I said currently, and stop pussy footing around it and just answer. Which other religion today is equally as violent as Islam?i'll need the current statistics.

Thanks in advance.

[RD2191]

So killing is not sanctioned or encouraged in any way in the bible?

This is your claim?
Most of what you linked is from the old testament. Killing occured, but it was not murder. You need to understand that God was/is the ultimate authority back then. The ultimate judge. I have discussed this before.

[RD2191]

Most of what you linked is from the old testament. Killing occured, but it was not murder. You need to understand that God was/is the ultimate authority back then. The ultimate judge. I have discussed this before.

[RD2191]

And why do you keep changing the subject? You're doing the same thing the other guy was doing.

[RD2191]

2 Chronicles 36:15, 16 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
15 Jehovah the God of their forefathers kept warning them by means of his messengers, warning them again and again, because he felt compassion for his people and for his dwelling place. 16 But they kept ridiculing the messengers of the true God, and they despised his words and mocked his prophets, until the rage of Jehovah came up against his people, until they were beyond healing.

[ChumpDumper]

Most of what you linked is from the old testament. Killing occured, but it was not murder. You need to understand that God was/is the ultimate authority back then. The ultimate judge. I have discussed this before.So killings were sanctioned and encouraged by God.

Fine. I'm glad we agree.

[ChumpDumper]

And why do you keep changing the subject?That's rich after you tried to change the subject to science as a purely defensive move.

[RD2191]

So killings were sanctioned and encouraged by God.

Fine. I'm glad we agree.
Nope. And thanks for exposing yourself as the other guy on here. How many alts do you have? tbh

[RD2191]

That's rich after you tried to change the subject to science as a purely defensive move.
Did I?

[Blake]

The Bible doesn't work like that.

Yeah, this is you making your own rules up about how the Bible works.

Lol you're so stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

And all kinds of killings were sanctioned and encouraged, right?


Most of what you linked is from the old testament. Killing occured, but it was not murder. You need to understand that God was/is the ultimate authority back then. The ultimate judge. I have discussed this before.Thanks again for agreeing with me.

[RD2191]

Yeah, this is you making your own rules up about how the Bible works.

Lol you're so stupid.
Answer my questions guy who sends his daughter to christian school.

[RD2191]

Thanks again for agreeing with me.
I said killings happened, but they were not murder.

[Blake]

2 Chronicles 36:15, 16 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
15 Jehovah the God of their forefathers kept warning them by means of his messengers, warning them again and again, because he felt compassion for his people and for his dwelling place. 16 But they kept ridiculing the messengers of the true God, and they despised his words and mocked his prophets, until the rage of Jehovah came up against his people, until they were beyond healing.

now you're using the Old Testament.

[RD2191]

Blake your stuff is weak tbh.

[rogues]

Answer my questions guy who sends his daughter to christian school.
Guy who's okay with letting big ole Jamal spread his seed into his wife like that one lion did in Lion King..

[ChumpDumper]

I said killings happened, but they were not murder.Thanks again for agreeing with me.

[Blake]

I said killings happened, but they were not murder.

Oh godly murder happened. You should read the old testament some time.

[RD2191]

now you're using the Old Testament.
And? What's wrong with that? The Old Testament is useful but the laws don't apply to today.

[ChumpDumper]

now you're using the Old Testament.:cry No one those laws anymore. :cry

[RD2191]

Oh godly murder happened. You should read the old testament some time.
Nope, not murder.

[RD2191]

Guy who's okay with letting big ole Jamal spread his seed into his wife like that one lion did in Lion King..
:lol

[Blake]

And? What's wrong with that? The Old Testament is useful but the laws don't apply to today.

this is you making up your own rules on how the Bible works

[RD2191]

this is you making up your own rules on how the Bible works
Nope, read the Bible and you will find out. Evilbible.com:lol

[ChumpDumper]

And? What's wrong with that? The Old Testament is useful but the laws don't apply to today.The ten commandments don't apply to today?

Wow.

[Blake]

Blake your stuff is weak tbh.

Your stuff is logical fallacy

[Blake]

Nope, read the Bible and you will find out. Evilbible.com:lol

I have. You're wrong.

[RD2191]

The ten commandments don't apply to today?

Wow.
What does evilbible.com have to say on the subject?

[RD2191]

I have. You're wrong.
Nope, I'm right. You know I'm right. Did you keep reading?

[Blake]

The Bible doesn't work like that.

Yeah, this is you making your own rules up about how the Bible works.

Lol you're so stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

What does evilbible.com have to say on the subject?You said the ten commandments don't apply anymore.

Don't try to change the subject again.

[Blake]

What does evilbible.com have to say on the subject?

All they did was copy paste the murder verses.

[RD2191]

17 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005017) “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117649/) 18 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005018) Truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one stroke of a letter to pass away from the Law until all things take place.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117670/) 19 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005019) Whoever, therefore, breaks one of these least commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in relation to the Kingdom of the heavens. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in relation to the Kingdom of the heavens. 20 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005020) For I say to you that if your righteousness does not surpass that of the scribes and the Pharisees,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117706/) you will by no means enter into the Kingdom of the heavens.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117728/)21 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005021) “You heard that it was said to those of ancient times: ‘You must not murder,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117749/) but whoever commits a murder will be accountable to the court of justice.’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117768/) 22 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005022) However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117794/) with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·hen′na.* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14117835)+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117809/)23 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005023) “If, then, you are bringing your gift to the altar+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117852/) and there you remember that your brother has something against you,24 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005024) leave your gift there in front of the altar, and go away. First make your peace with your brother, and then come back and offer your gift.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117881/)25 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005025) “Be quick to settle matters with your legal opponent, while you are with him on the way there, so that somehow the opponent may not turn you over to the judge, and the judge to the court attendant, and you get thrown into prison.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117909/) 26 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005026) I say to you for a fact, you will certainly not come out of there until you have paid over your last small coin.* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14117938)27 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005027) “You heard that it was said: ‘You must not commit adultery.’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117962/) 28 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005028) But I say to you that everyone who keeps on looking at a woman+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118005/) so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118021/) 29 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005029) If, now, your right eye is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118045/) For it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be pitched into Ge·hen′na.* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118074)+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118057/) 30 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005030) Also, if your right hand is making you stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118103/) For it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to land in Ge·hen′na.* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118130)+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118113/)31 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005031) “Moreover, it was said: ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118152/) 32 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005032) However, I say to you that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of sexual immorality,* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118219) makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118191/)33 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005033) “Again you heard that it was said to those of ancient times: ‘You must not swear without performing,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118244/) but you must pay your vows to Jehovah.’* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118276)+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118259/) 34 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005034) However, I say to you: Do not swear at all,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118292/) neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005035) nor by earth, for it is the footstool of his feet;+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118318/) nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118336/) 36 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005036) Do not swear by your head, since you cannot turn one hair white or black. 37 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005037) Just let your word ‘Yes’ mean yes, your ‘No,’ no,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118378/) for what goes beyond these is from the wicked one.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118387/)38 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005038) “You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118417/) 39 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005039) However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118464/) 40 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005040) And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118504/) 41 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005041) and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile,* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118533) go with him two miles. 42 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005042) Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118572)from you.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118554/)43 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005043) “You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118602/)and hate your enemy.’ 44 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005044) However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118626/) and to pray for those who persecute you,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118643/) 45 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005045) so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118680/) since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118693/) 46 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005046) For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have?+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118722/) Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? 47 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005047) And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? 48 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005048) You must accordingly be perfect,* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118789) as your heavenly Father is perfect.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118761/)

[RD2191]

All they did was copy paste the murder verses.
exactly, without researching any of it.

[Blake]

Nope, I'm right. You know I'm right. Did you keep reading?

I know you're ignorant and unintelligent.

[RD2191]

You said the ten commandments don't apply anymore.

Don't try to change the subject again.
evilbible does not cover the ten commandments? You're the one who keeps changing the subject.

[RD2191]

I know you're ignorant and unintelligent.
Did you keep reading?

[Blake]

exactly, without researching any of it.

What's to research? The words are clear. There's no hidden context.

[Blake]

Did you keep reading?

Reading what? Get to it, son.

[Blake]

evilbible does not cover the ten commandments? You're the one who keeps changing the subject.

you're all over the place.

[RD2191]

What's to research? The words are clear. There's no hidden context.
sure there is. plenty of it.

[RD2191]

Reading what? Get to it, son.
did you forget?

[Blake]

17 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005017) “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117649/) 18 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005018) Truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one stroke of a letter to pass away from the Law until all things take place.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117670/) 19 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005019) Whoever, therefore, breaks one of these least commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in relation to the Kingdom of the heavens. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in relation to the Kingdom of the heavens. 20 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005020) For I say to you that if your righteousness does not surpass that of the scribes and the Pharisees,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117706/) you will by no means enter into the Kingdom of the heavens.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117728/)21 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005021) “You heard that it was said to those of ancient times: ‘You must not murder,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117749/) but whoever commits a murder will be accountable to the court of justice.’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117768/) 22 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005022) However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117794/) with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·hen′na.* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14117835)+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117809/)23 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005023) “If, then, you are bringing your gift to the altar+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117852/) and there you remember that your brother has something against you,24 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005024) leave your gift there in front of the altar, and go away. First make your peace with your brother, and then come back and offer your gift.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117881/)25 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005025) “Be quick to settle matters with your legal opponent, while you are with him on the way there, so that somehow the opponent may not turn you over to the judge, and the judge to the court attendant, and you get thrown into prison.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117909/) 26 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005026) I say to you for a fact, you will certainly not come out of there until you have paid over your last small coin.* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14117938)27 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005027) “You heard that it was said: ‘You must not commit adultery.’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14117962/) 28 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005028) But I say to you that everyone who keeps on looking at a woman+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118005/) so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118021/) 29 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005029) If, now, your right eye is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118045/) For it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be pitched into Ge·hen′na.* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118074)+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118057/) 30 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005030) Also, if your right hand is making you stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118103/) For it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to land in Ge·hen′na.* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118130)+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118113/)31 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005031) “Moreover, it was said: ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118152/) 32 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005032) However, I say to you that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of sexual immorality,* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118219) makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118191/)33 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005033) “Again you heard that it was said to those of ancient times: ‘You must not swear without performing,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118244/) but you must pay your vows to Jehovah.’* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118276)+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118259/) 34 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005034) However, I say to you: Do not swear at all,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118292/) neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005035) nor by earth, for it is the footstool of his feet;+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118318/) nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118336/) 36 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005036) Do not swear by your head, since you cannot turn one hair white or black. 37 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005037) Just let your word ‘Yes’ mean yes, your ‘No,’ no,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118378/) for what goes beyond these is from the wicked one.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118387/)38 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005038) “You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118417/) 39 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005039) However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118464/) 40 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005040) And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118504/) 41 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005041) and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile,* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118533) go with him two miles. 42 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005042) Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118572)from you.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118554/)43 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005043) “You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118602/)and hate your enemy.’ 44 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005044) However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118626/) and to pray for those who persecute you,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118643/) 45 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005045) so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens,+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118680/) since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118693/) 46 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005046) For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have?+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118722/) Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? 47 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005047) And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? 48 (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#v40005048) You must accordingly be perfect,* (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/5/#fn14118789) as your heavenly Father is perfect.+ (http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/mcr/14118761/)

Ok, where in that do you see Jesus saying the laws don't matter in todays time

I don't think you read what you pasted

[ChumpDumper]

evilbible does not cover the ten commandments? You're the one who keeps changing the subject.You said the ten commandments don't apply anymore.

That is the subject you are trying like mad to change.

Why do you think the ten commandments don't apply anymore?

[Blake]

sure there is. plenty of it.

This is you making shit up.

[Blake]

did you forget?

You're all over the place. Focus.

[RD2191]

Romans 7:6, 7 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
6 But now we have been released from the Law,because we have died to that which restrained us, in order that we might be slaves in a new sense by the spirit and not in the old sense by the written code.7 What, then, are we to say? Is the Law sin? Certainly not! Really, I would not have come to know sin had it not been for the Law. For example, I would not have known covetousness if the Law had not said: “You must not covet.”


Romans 7:6, 7 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
6 But now we have been released from the Law,because we have died to that which restrained us, in order that we might be slaves in a new sense by the spirit and not in the old sense by the written code.7 What, then, are we to say? Is the Law sin? Certainly not! Really, I would not have come to know sin had it not been for the Law. For example, I would not have known covetousness if the Law had not said: “You must not covet.”


Galatians 3:24, 25 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
24 So the Law became our guardian leading to Christ,so that we might be declared righteous through faith.25 But now that the faith has arrived, we are no longer under a guardian.


Ephesians 2:15 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
15 By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees, in order to make the two groups in union with himself into one new man and to make peace,


Romans 13:9, 10 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
9 For the law code, “You must not commit adultery, you must not murder, you must not steal, you must not covet,” and whatever other commandment there is, is summed up in this saying: “You must love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does not work evil to one’s neighbor; therefore, love is the law’s fulfillment.


ebrews 8:13 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
13 In his saying “a new covenant,” he has made the former one obsolete. Now what is obsolete and growing old is near to vanishing away.

[RD2191]

there you go blake and chump. wipe your faces off when you're done.

[RD2191]

Romans 10:4 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
4 For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness.

[Blake]

Lol going full Avante

[RD2191]

Is that all you got Blake? I just served your ass to you in a platter buddy.

[ChumpDumper]

So the ten commandments no longer apply?

Why is there even an old testament?

Does the origin story now not apply as well?

Tell us which specific verses should be followed now and which should be ignored. I mean it's all the direct word of a perfect God, but he needed a reboot, right?

[RD2191]

romans 13 9 is talking about which of the ten commandments one should follow

[RD2191]

So the ten commandments no longer apply?

Why is there even an old testament?

Does the origin story now not apply as well?

Tell us which specific verses should be followed now and which should be ignored. I mean it's all the direct word of a perfect God, but he needed a reboot, right?
I just posted everything you need to know from the Bible. Your questions have been answered. I'm done playing your dumb games. Admit you are wrong like a man and move on.

[ChumpDumper]

romans 13 9 is talking about which of the ten commandments one should followSo four of them?

Idolatry is OK with God since it doesn't hurt your neighbor?

Interesting.

Thanks for telling me that.

[Blake]

Is that all you got Blake? I just served your ass to you in a platter buddy.

if Jesus was real i bet he would be so proud of your regulation in this thread

[RD2191]

So four of them?

Idolatry is OK with God since it doesn't hurt your neighbor?

Interesting.

Thanks for telling me that.
wrong, and no one is taking you seriously. you're the biggest joke on this site. Thanks for admitting you were wrong though.

[ChumpDumper]

wrong, and no one is taking you seriously. you're the biggest joke on this site. Thanks for admitting you were wrong though.That passage says nothing about idolatry, so it must be OK.

It's your Bible, dude. You say it's the law.

[RD2191]

So four of them?

Idolatry is OK with God since it doesn't hurt your neighbor?

Interesting.

Thanks for telling me that.
1 John 5:21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols.

1 Corinthians 10:14 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
14 Therefore, my beloved ones, flee from idolatry.

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[RD2191]

Come on chumpy, quit with the weak shit and admit you are wrong.

[TheSanityAnnex]

i'll need the current statistics.

Thanks in advance.

Stop pussy footing around. You claimed Islam didn't have the violence market cornered so who are they sharing it with?

[ChumpDumper]

1 John 5:21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols.

1 Corinthians 10:14 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/range.link)
14 Therefore, my beloved ones, flee from idolatry.

Flee and guard?

Not really rules there, are they?

So which rules from the Old Testament do apply?

Just those?

[ChumpDumper]

Stop pussy footing around. You claimed Islam didn't have the violence market cornered so who are they sharing it with?So no statistics?

I'm disappointed.

[RD2191]

Flee and guard?

Not really rules there, are they?
:lolnever change, loser

[ChumpDumper]

:lolnever change, loserSo which rules from the Old Testament do apply?

Just those?

Are there others?

[RD2191]

Read the Bible and you will find out. I've already posted plenty. Just admit that you are wrong.

[InRareForm]

14 pages in one day

[ChumpDumper]

Read the Bible and you will find out. I've already posted plenty. Just admit that you are wrong.I was asking you.

So things from the old testament don't apply unless they do.

OK.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So no statistics?

I'm disappointed.

I don't need to post any statistics as you are the one who made the claim. You should never had made the claim if you can not answer simple questions such as who they share amount of violence with.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't need to post any statistics as you are the one who made the claim. You should never had made the claim if you can not answer simple questions such as who they share amount of violence with.Saying "not having the market cornered" simply means not all the religion related violence is done by Muslims. it was not a statistical argument.

What part of that do you not understand?

If you want to quantify it, you are welcome to do so. I think you actually did some Google searches to try it. Props. :tu

[TheSanityAnnex]

Saying "not having the market cornered" simply means not all the religion related violence is done by Muslims. it was not a statistical argument.

What part of that do you not understand?

If you want to quantify it, you are welcome to do so. I think you actually did some Google searches to try it. Props. :tuSaying "not having the market cornered" would imply Islam does not hold the greatest share of violence. Do you believe that to be true?


edit: in modern times

[Blake]

I don't need to post any statistics as you are the one who made the claim. You should never had made the claim if you can not answer simple questions such as who they share amount of violence with.

Actually you made the original claim that Islam had the violence market cornered

[ChumpDumper]

Saying "not having the market cornered" would imply Islam does not hold the greatest share of violence. Do you believe that to be true?No, that would mean a monopoly or near monopoly.



edit: in modern timesModern times included.

I mean the Hutus are Christians and they killed about a million other Christians. Is that somehow better than killing someone of another religion?

I tend to think not.

[TheSanityAnnex]

No, that would mean a monopoly or near monopoly.


Modern times included.

I mean the Hutus are Christians and they killed about a million other Christians. Is that somehow better than killing someone of another religion?

I tend to think not.

"To have the greatest market share (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share) in a particular industry without having a monopoly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly).

[ChumpDumper]

"To have the greatest market share (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share) in a particular industry without having a monopoly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly).So considering all the genocides and wars in modern times, no -- I can't say Muslims have the market cornered.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Actually you made the original claim that Islam had the violence market cornered

He wasn't asking for statistics to support my claim. He asked for statistics for his own claim of Islam not cornering the market when asked who they share it with.

[ChumpDumper]

He wasn't asking for statistics to support my claim. He asked for statistics for his own claim of Islam not cornering the market when asked who they share it with.I asked for statistics of all violence done in the name of religion when you tried to limit the argument to that.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So considering all the genocides and wars in modern times, no -- I can't say Muslims have the market cornered.

How modern are you talking and which genocides and wars are you referencing being fought in the name of religion? And why are you now talking about Muslims? We were discussing acts done in the name of religion.

[ChumpDumper]

How modern are you talking and which genocides and wars are you referencing being fought in the name of religion? And why are you now talking about Muslims? We were discussing acts done in the name of religion.And I said I'm not sure I can limit myself at that.

This is my question to you: Is Muslims killing say, hundreds of thousands in the name of religion worse than Christians killing millions of Christians for no religious reason?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I asked for statistics of all violence done in the name of religion when you tried to limit the argument to that.

I wasn't trying to limit the argument I just wanted to narrow it down for you and make it easier so you could share with us which other religions shared an equal or greater part of violence than Islam, which you have still failed to do.

[ChumpDumper]

I wasn't trying to limit the argument I just wanted to narrow it down for you and make it easier so you could share with us which other religions shared an equal or greater part of violence than Islam, which you have still failed to do.Ok, so if you don't want to limit it, we can just go with what I'm saying. So I can't say Islam has the market cornered.

This is my question to you: Is Muslims' killing say, hundreds of thousands in the name of religion worse than Christians killing millions of Christians for no religious reason?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Ok, so if you don't want to limit it, we can just go with what I'm saying. So I can't say Islam has the market cornered.

This is my question to you: Is Muslims' killing say, hundreds of thousands in the name of religion worse than Christians killing millions of Christians for no religious reason?

No not worse.

Question to you: Which modern day religion kills in the name of it's religion the most?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"They do it too" stopped being a valid excuse in kindergarten.

TSA is now taking his trolling to support Jesus. Trolling for Jesus. Trolling for guns. Trolling against darkie. That is what TSA is all about.

[ChumpDumper]

No not worse.Well there you go.


Question to you: Which modern day religion kills in the name of it's religion the most?We're getting back to the statistical question. If you have made any headway there, I'd appreciate a status update.

[TheSanityAnnex]

"They do it too" stopped being a valid excuse in kindergarten.

TSA is now taking his trolling to support Jesus. Trolling for Jesus. Trolling for guns. Trolling against darkie. That is what TSA is all about.

I'm not religious you stupid fuck.

[TheSanityAnnex]

We're getting back to the statistical question. If you have made any headway there, I'd appreciate a status update.

Status update granted, I can say without a doubt that in modern times more people are killed in the name of Islam than any other religion.

[TheSanityAnnex]

"They do it too" stopped being a valid excuse in kindergarten.

TSA is now taking his trolling to support Jesus. Trolling for Jesus. Trolling for guns. Trolling against darkie. That is what TSA is all about.

You ran pretty quickly from that other thread last night when asked to back your claim, what happened? :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You ran pretty quickly from that other thread last night when asked to back your claim, what happened? :lol

I responded.

As I pointed out to you then, what you are doing with your disingenuous trolling is obvious and I am not here to convince you.

I'm not surprised that you would try to dissemble rom what I was getting at but with you it is important to realize what your intent here is. You try to paint this picture that you are just trolling and therefor what you say doesn't matter etc but we both know that is not the case. How?

Because you always troll the same subjects and while you focus on people that you are asshurt about such as chump and myself you will troll anyone who takes a position on certain topics much like Mouse trolling anyone on the God stuff.

You always troll people who speak for gun control primarily. That is your biggie and if someone starts a gun thread you will spam the shit out of it. You also do that with threads started by minority members about minority interests. You'll throw out some platitude and then troll the shit out of the thread.

It's what you do. Instead of trying to appeal to reason you troll and you always troll the same things and people. At the end you are limited and transparent.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:cry I'm not religious but I troll agnostics and atheists as a matter of course. :cry Nothing I do matters. :cry

[TheSanityAnnex]

I responded.No you didn't. You were asked to back your claim of me supporting police oppression and violence and you ran away after finding nothing.


As I pointed out to you then, what you are doing with your disingenuous trolling is obvious and I am not here to convince you.

I'm not surprised that you would try to dissemble rom what I was getting at but with you it is important to realize what your intent here is. You try to paint this picture that you are just trolling and therefor what you say doesn't matter etc but we both know that is not the case. How?I thought you are not here to convince me?


Because you always troll the same subjects and while you focus on people that you are asshurt about such as chump and myself you will troll anyone who takes a position on certain topics much like Mouse trolling anyone on the God stuff.I like Chump and enjoy the back and forth questions with him, I am pretty sure he feels the same about me. You on the other hand are just a faggot.


You always troll people who speak for gun control primarily. That is your biggie and if someone starts a gun thread you will spam the shit out of it.I just point out their flawed logic. Boutons and I have had some decent discussions and actually agree on a lot of aspects of gun control. You on the other hand are just a faggot.


You also do that with threads started by minority members about minority interests. You'll throw out some platitude and then troll the shit out of the thread.I point out the hypocrisy of the minority members posts, that isn't trolling. I've got the most successful minority interest thread still alive on the board that is still active after 7 years "hip hop heads". What have you done for minorities lately? I've got nothing against people's skin color but a dipshit is a dipshit, and you are just a faggot.


It's what you do. Instead of trying to appeal to reason you troll and you always troll the same things and people. At the end you are limited and transparent.At least I'm not a faggot.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No you didn't. You were asked to back your claim of me supporting police oppression and violence and you ran away after finding nothing.

I thought you are not here to convince me?

I like Chump and enjoy the back and forth questions with him, I am pretty sure he feels the same about me. You on the other hand are just a faggot.

I just point out their flawed logic. Boutons and I have had some decent discussions and actually agree on a lot of aspects of gun control. You on the other hand are just a faggot.

I point out the hypocrisy of the minority members posts, that isn't trolling. I've got the most successful minority interest thread still alive on the board that is still active after 7 years "hip hop heads". What have you done for minorities lately? I've got nothing against people's skin color but a dipshit is a dipshit, and you are just a faggot.

At least I'm not a faggot.

I don't bother with that line by line trash. It's insta-TLDR and noone reads it. Good job wasting your time though.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't bother with that line by line trash. It's insta-TLDR and noone reads it. Good job wasting your time though.
Seems like you just don't have a response to all those truthbombs, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Status update granted, I can say without a doubt that in modern times more people are killed in the name of Islam than any other religion.OK, let's see your figures for all the religions.

[DarrinS]

Damn. TSA nuked Fuzzy. :lmao

[koriwhat]

Same ole schtick.
Twists what true Christians really teach then attacks the twist that he made up.

All in an attempt to sound witty.
Low self esteem.

An accurate bible will read "this means my body" not "this is my body".
It was symbolic.
Go back to trying to acquire tv ratings.

either way, still praying and believing in something no one can prove is real. lmao!

[TheSanityAnnex]

OK, let's see your figures for all the religions.

I've got a fun idea, you post a picture of a non-Islamic religious killing and I'll post a picture of an Islamic religious killing. Whoever runs out of pictures first loses.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't bother with that line by line trash. It's insta-TLDR and noone reads it. Good job wasting your time though.
The only thing worse than a faggot is a lazy faggot. Nobody believes you didn't read it and everyone knows why you won't respond to it.

[ChumpDumper]

I've got a fun idea, you post a picture of a non-Islamic religious killing and I'll post a picture of an Islamic religious killing. Whoever runs out of pictures first loses.

So you aren't going to post figures for all religions?

Just say so.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The only thing worse than a faggot is a lazy faggot. Nobody believes you didn't read it and everyone knows why you won't respond to it.

You have to appeal to bandwagon because you know you have no credibility in and of yourself. Poorly played, chump.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You have to appeal to bandwagon because you know you have no credibility in and of yourself. Poorly played, chump.
You were called out to defend your bullshit claims and tucked tail and ran. Nothing you say will change that fact.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you aren't going to post figures for all religions?

Just say so.
What kind of time frame are we talking?

Im having trouble finding more people killed in the name of other religions that tops 9/11 by itself.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You were called out to defend your bullshit claims and tucked tail and ran. Nothing you say will change that fact.

:lol I'm still here saying the same thing. You seem frantic.

I will repeat it again since you are trying to spam it away.

Your trolling displays intent. The inherent outcome of trolling is to discredit and discourage a speaker and their subject. When you are always trolling the people speaking against police brutality and oppression but ignoring the white supremacists then it is what it is.

It doesn't really matter what dumbfuck justifications you come up with. The above is still true. Mutual exclusivity is tough for you, I get it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol I'm still here saying the same thing. You seem frantic.

I will repeat it again since you are trying to spam it away.

Your trolling displays intent. The inherent outcome of trolling is to discredit and discourage a speaker and their subject. When you are always trolling the people speaking against police brutality and oppression but ignoring the white supremacists then it is what it is.

It doesn't really matter what dumbfuck justifications you come up with. The above is still true. Mutual exclusivity is tough for you, I get it.
Once again, if I'm always trolling the people speaking out against police brutality and oppression it shouldn't be so hard to post examples. As for the white supremacists why would I feed the trolls when it's more effective to just ignore them?

[Blake]

fOpapeX6Vzs

Rofl

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Once again, if I'm always trolling the people speaking out against police brutality and oppression it shouldn't be so hard to post examples. As for the white supremacists why would I feed the trolls when it's more effective to just ignore them?


I responded.

As I pointed out to you then, what you are doing with your disingenuous trolling is obvious and I am not here to convince you.

I'm not surprised that you would try to dissemble rom what I was getting at but with you it is important to realize what your intent here is. You try to paint this picture that you are just trolling and therefor what you say doesn't matter etc but we both know that is not the case. How?

Because you always troll the same subjects and while you focus on people that you are asshurt about such as chump and myself you will troll anyone who takes a position on certain topics much like Mouse trolling anyone on the God stuff.

You always troll people who speak for gun control primarily. That is your biggie and if someone starts a gun thread you will spam the shit out of it. You also do that with threads started by minority members about minority interests. You'll throw out some platitude and then troll the shit out of the thread.

It's what you do. Instead of trying to appeal to reason you troll and you always troll the same things and people. At the end you are limited and transparent.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'll accept that as your white flag.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Okay. You have done your work for Christ in this thread. Good work.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You're credibility has taken quite a hit in this thread. Be better prepared in the future to back up your claims.

[boutons_deux]

Even if "symbolic",

"HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEUM ... With these words spoken by the priest, the Catholic is taught the wafer of bread turns into the true body of Jesus. HIC EST ENIM CALIX SANGUINIS MEI ... and with these words of the priest, the Catholic is taught that the wine turns into the true blood of Jesus Christ. So Catholics are actually taught that the priest has it in his power to transform bread and wine into God!"

http://biblelight.net/mass.htm

Why the SYMBOLISM?, the point of cannibalism? of eating Christ's body, and drinking His blood?

We already got the Holy Ghost dwelling in there, it's gonna get crowded.

[The Reckoning]

You're credibility has taken quite a hit in this thread. Be better prepared in the future to back up your claims.



what credibility?

[The Reckoning]

Even if "symbolic",

"HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEUM ... With these words spoken by the priest, the Catholic is taught the wafer of bread turns into the true body of Jesus. HIC EST ENIM CALIX SANGUINIS MEI ... and with these words of the priest, the Catholic is taught that the wine turns into the true blood of Jesus Christ. So Catholics are actually taught that the priest has it in his power to transform bread and wine into God!"


http://biblelight.net/mass.htm

Why the SYMBOLISM?, the point of cannibalism? of eating Christ's body, and drinking His blood?

We already got the Holy Ghost dwelling in there, it's gonna get crowded.







You sure are obsessed with what people do behind closed doors on sunday mornings. they aren't hurting anyone. if that's how they choose to cope with our meaningless existence in the cosmos then what's wrong with that?

[Blake]

You sure are obsessed with what people do behind closed doors on sunday mornings. they aren't hurting anyone. if that's how they choose to cope with our meaningless existence in the cosmos then what's wrong with that?

Yeah if they were to keep it behind closed doors, that would be great.


"Involvement in politics is an obligation for a Christian. We Christians cannot play the role of Pilate, washing our hands of it; we cannot. We must be involved in politics because politics is one of the highest forms of charity, for it seeks the common good. And Christian lay people must work in politics."

-Pope Francis, Address to students of Jesuit Schools, 6/6/2013.

http://texasleaders.org/abortion/planned-parenthood-in-san-antonio-new-abortion-capitol-of-south-texas/

[boutons_deux]

You sure are obsessed with what people do behind closed doors on sunday mornings. they aren't hurting anyone. if that's how they choose to cope with our meaningless existence in the cosmos then what's wrong with that?

:lol So you won't, more probably can't, answer the question, O Vaunted Scholar of Catholic Theology?

[The Reckoning]

:lol So you won't, more probably can't, answer the question, O Vaunted Scholar of Catholic Theology?

I don't care either way. I'm sure you won't pick apart Islamic beliefs either because that's too politically correct. Remember, JFK was Catholic.

Truth be told I'm pretty sure it's just a pagan ritual passed down that means absolutely nothing, but it does give a sheep the feeling that he/she has been cleansed and can start over on a moral blank slate. I don't see any issues with that.

[The Reckoning]

Yeah if they were to keep it behind closed doors, that would be great.

Francis is from Latin America. They need all the leadership they can get IMO.

[Blake]

Francis is from Latin America. They need all the leadership they can get IMO.


I don't care either way. I'm sure you won't pick apart Islamic beliefs either because that's too politically correct. Remember, JFK was Catholic.

Truth be told I'm pretty sure it's just a pagan ritual passed down that means absolutely nothing, but it does give a sheep the feeling that he/she has been cleansed and can start over on a moral blank slate. I don't see any issues with that.

Picking apart Islamic beliefs is even easier than picking apart Christian beliefs.

And JFK being catholic made a lot of people uneasy, thinking the Vatican might instruct JFK how to run things

Not sure what Francis being from Latin America had to do with anything

[The Reckoning]

Picking apart Islamic beliefs is even easier than picking apart Christian beliefs.

And JFK being catholic made a lot of people uneasy, thinking the Vatican might instruct JFK how to run things

Not sure what Francis being from Latin America had to do with anything

It means he's a more social minded pope because he's not from a western country. Of course he'll be more political.

[Blake]

It means he's a more social minded pope because he's not from a western country. Of course he'll be more political.

So much for keeping it behind closed doors then

[The Reckoning]

So much for keeping it behind closed doors then


tee-hee

he's not going to say everyone needs to observe the Eucharist. his mantra is pretty simple: Golden Rule. I don't know where you're going with all this tbh. What do you think about the Dalai Lama? Should he have no business in Tibetan affairs? Do tibetan buddhist customs (just as strange as catholic) disqualify him from having an opinion about human nature? Come on now. This site runs on the straw man. It's hard to take yall's arguments seriously.

[The Reckoning]

:cry Obama reads the color comics every Sunday, such an archaic practice. He's not fit to lead anything. :cry

[Blake]

tee-hee

he's not going to say everyone needs to observe the Eucharist. his mantra is pretty simple: Golden Rule. I don't know where you're going with all this tbh. What do you think about the Dalai Lama? Should he have no business in Tibetan affairs? Do tibetan buddhist customs (just as strange as catholic) disqualify him from having an opinion about human nature? Come on now. This site runs on the straw man. It's hard to take yall's arguments seriously.

What's my strawman?

[The Reckoning]

What's my strawman?

Catholics practicing a ritual on Sunday = the Pope saying Christians should be active politically

[Blake]

Catholics practicing a ritual on Sunday = the Pope saying Christians should be active politically

you said they aren't hurting anyone.

If the pope is directly telling all catholics to get involved in politics, which would mean pushing the catholic belief system into politics, then I disagree. I'd say they are at the least indirectly hurting society as a whole.

[The Reckoning]

you said they aren't hurting anyone.

If the pope is directly telling all catholics to get involved in politics, which would mean pushing the catholic belief system into politics, then I disagree. I'd say they are at the least indirectly hurting society as a whole.


no, you misrepresented my argument and you know it. they're not hurting anyone when they take communion. end of story. you're free to continue about equating that just because someone is told to vote, they are going to push their religious beliefs into the system. good day.

[Blake]

no, you misrepresented my argument and you know it. they're not hurting anyone when they take communion. end of story. you're free to continue about equating that just because someone is told to vote, they are going to push their religious beliefs into the system. good day.

Well once they come out from behind closed doors to push their God based beliefs into the public political arena, they're fair game to dissect and scrutinize, imo. have a blessed rest of the day.

[boutons_deux]

Well once they come out from behind closed doors to push their God based beliefs into the public political arena, they're fair game to dissect and scrutinize, imo. have a blessed rest of the day.

Il Papa doesn't necessarily mean proselytizing, trolling for Catholic converts, like the Protestant scammers do.

He could mean getting involved in politics to help the poor, disadvantaged, the near-poor, sick, old, orphans, etc as pure acts of charity without any Protestant-style "ya gotta become a Bible humper if you want my help" scamming.

[Blake]

Il Papa doesn't necessarily mean proselytizing, trolling for Catholic converts, like the Protestant scammers do.

He could mean getting involved in politics to help the poor, disadvantaged, the near-poor, sick, old, orphans, etc as pure acts of charity without any Protestant-style "ya gotta become a Bible humper if you want my help" scamming.

I would think the pope definitely wants his catholics to get politically involved in issues like abortion. Which they do.

[Ignignokt]

gtown started spamming for some reason.

lol I just post once in this entire thread and this bitch already showing signs of PTSD from my boot in the ass inflicted trauma.

>one post
>spamming
>90k

kek

[ChumpDumper]

lol I just post once in this entire thread and this bitch already showing signs of PTSD from my boot in the ass inflicted trauma.

>one post
>spamming
>90k

kekActually you started several threads because i still hurt you.

[Leetonidas]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/617/382/1d8.png

[RandomGuy]

Actually you started several threads because i still hurt you.

Kind of obvious dude is a wee bit insecure. The obsession with "cuck" is more than a bit creepy too.
Seriously, read up a bit on psychological projection etc if you haven't already, then read this guys posts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

[Ignignokt]

Kind of obvious dude is a wee bit insecure. The obsession with "cuck" is more than a bit creepy too.
Seriously, read up a bit on psychological projection etc if you haven't already, then read this guys posts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Maybe you should remind everyone why that moniker first stuck to you. It involved your wife summer's admittance on this forum to bee bee cee..

[Ignignokt]

Actually you started several threads because i still hurt you.

they were started to hail your 90k posts wizardry.

[ChumpDumper]

they were started to hail your 90k posts wizardry.You're very dedicated to me, I'll give you that.

[Ignignokt]

You're very dedicated to me, I'll give you that.

Isn't that like your fetish, to fantasize that forum posters have this boyish obsession with you, that they stick gum in your hair and pinch you?

Gawddayyumm you're such a ladyboy fagg!t

[Blake]

Seriously you're obsessed

[ChumpDumper]

Isn't that like your fetish, to fantasize that forum posters have this boyish obsession with you, that they stick gum in your hair and pinch you?

Gawddayyumm you're such a ladyboy fagg!tBut you really don't post about anything else.

I would characterize your obsession with me as girlish tbh.

[Ignignokt]

But you really don't post about anything else.

I would characterize your obsession with me as girlish tbh.

Have you ever posted a srs oppinion on any basketball subject or anything not pertaining to being a passive aggressive effeminate twat?

[Ignignokt]

Seriously you're obsessed

your obsessed with siphoning jizz off your wife's ass, planted by her BULL.

[Blake]

capitalizing words makes the zingers extra hurtful

[ChumpDumper]

Have you ever posted a srs oppinion on any basketball subject or anything?Sure. Do you?

[Ignignokt]

Sure. Do you?

Yeah, now you're totally lying through your teeth.

[Ignignokt]

capitalizing words makes the zingers extra hurtful

Your wife capitalizes on you being a masochist.

[DisAsTerBot]

Have you ever posted a srs oppinion on any basketball subject or anything not pertaining to being a passive aggressive effeminate twat?

this is hilariously ironic. perfect.

[Blake]

Your wife capitalizes on you being a masochist.

minimal zing. Srsly scraht, You have to go with with caps every time to really stick it to me.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, now you're totally lying through your teeth.Nope. I have participated in serious basketball discussion.

Have you?

[RandomGuy]

Maybe you should remind everyone why that moniker first stuck to you. It involved your wife summer's admittance on this forum to bee bee cee..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Meh. Your obsession with it, won't change the reality of its non-existence.

Since then some psychological studies of people like you have sort of outlined what the rest of us figured out long ago:

I
n this month's issue of Personality and Individual Differences, a study was published (link is external) that confirms what we all suspected: Internet trolls are horrible people.

Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

[RandomGuy]

But you really don't post about anything else.

I would characterize your obsession with me as girlish tbh.

Not sure girlish is exactly the word I would use. Stalkerish, maybe.

Kind of like those delusional people who make up relationships in their head with someone who barely knows they exist. Seriously delusional types with secret shrines in their closet.

The nastiness rolls on and on. That is not the sign of a healthy mind. (shudders)