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neboat
04-02-2015, 02:47 PM
Tim at #5 (nice!)

Robinson ranked one slot higher than Olajuwon

Parker and Manu in also

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2232060-br-nba-legends-100-ranking-the-greatest-players-of-all-time/page/99

apalisoc_9
04-02-2015, 02:53 PM
Wilt and Bill :lmao

I'd put a guy like kobe over them and I hate kobe.

BillMc
04-02-2015, 02:54 PM
Interesting list. Got Timmy about right, I'd say.

FkLA
04-02-2015, 03:16 PM
Not sure which is more hilarious, Enrique at 60 or Shawn Marion at 71. :lmao

apalisoc_9
04-02-2015, 03:23 PM
list also tried its best to get the euros out..

I would actually rate Enrique selfish parker higher than 60.

KG, Dirk >>barkely and Malone.

Jerry west over Bryant is a joke..

That's just me though..60 and 70's should have their own top player rankings.

apalisoc_9
04-02-2015, 03:26 PM
but if you really inxlude 60's and 70's...yeah Parker is around 60..manu at 75 and marion at 71 though.

:lmao

FkLA
04-02-2015, 03:31 PM
No way is Enrique 60. Some of the names he's ranked ahead of; Gasol, Tmac, Vince, Mullins, Webber, Dikembe, Mitch Richmond, Manu, Dumars, etc. That's just ridiculous tbh. :rollin

Raven
04-02-2015, 03:32 PM
the top 10 is hard to debate, i'd put KAJ at #4 behind both bigs. Manu too low kirby way too high.

SpursFan86
04-02-2015, 03:35 PM
Good lord that list is fucking terrible :lol If you're going to respect older generations (which they clearly do since they have Russell and Wilt at 3 and 4), how does Mikan end up being in the 70s?

West at #8 ahead of Shaq and Bird? :lmao

Parker 15 spots ahead of Manu? :lmao

Willis Reed, Alonzo Mourning, and Bob McAdoo all not even making the list? :lmao

Hakeem at 14? Dr. J barely making the top 25? :lmao

cantthinkofanything
04-02-2015, 03:41 PM
It's just like any other list nowadays imo. The writer has a few points he wants to make...has some people in mind that he wants to rank. Maybe a private axe to grind by putting someone below someone else. Everything else is just filler.

$pursDynasty
04-02-2015, 03:49 PM
Though not as likable as Shaq I would have to put Kobe above him

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-02-2015, 03:58 PM
Wilt and Bill :lmao

I'd put a guy like kobe over them and I hate kobe.
That's because you don't watch basketball

cantthinkofanything
04-02-2015, 04:03 PM
That's because you don't watch basketball

Disregarding the rest of the list, I don't think Walt and Bill were better basketball players relative to Duncan. Kareem either.

$pursDynasty
04-02-2015, 04:25 PM
Disregarding the rest of the list, I don't think Walt and Bill were better basketball players relative to Duncan. Kareem either.
Cantthink while many just concede the #1 spot to Jordan, for me there is an argument for Kareem at #1. People my age remember Kareem as the last guy on the screen with Magic and the Showtime Lakers but for as great as the Captain was with the skyhook, that fails to account for the damage he did to the opposition in his prime. There were 8 years Jordan was the best on the planet but that is kind of Koufaxian compared to Kareem's decades of dominance because even when he was old and slow no one besides Moses Malone could deal with the skyhook. .

cantthinkofanything
04-02-2015, 04:32 PM
Cantthink while many just concede the #1 spot to Jordan, for me there is an argument for Kareem at #1. People my age remember Kareem as the last guy on the screen with Magic and the Showtime Lakers but for as great as the Captain was with the skyhook, that fails to account for the damage he did to the opposition in his prime. There were 8 years Jordan was the best on the planet but that is kind of Koufaxian compared to Kareem's decades of dominance because even when he was old and slow no one besides Moses Malone could deal with the skyhook. .

Yeah. You could convince me of Kareem>Duncan. I did see him play during the Showtime years. The skyhook was automatic and he swatted any shot in his area. Maybe he gets overlooked (by me) playing with Magic, Worthy, et al. But I can talk myself back to Duncan>Kareem as well. Both had great fundamentals but I think TD slightly better. And a better midrange shooter and passer.

Brazil
04-02-2015, 04:55 PM
not a great list imo

Diego20
04-02-2015, 05:04 PM
Marion at 71??

/thread this list is shit.

K...
04-02-2015, 05:18 PM
Marion at 71??

/thread this list is shit.

Just holding the spot for matrix 2.0

Brazil
04-02-2015, 05:22 PM
list is shit but the butthurt this kind of list provokes is quite hilarious :lol

PÒÓCH
04-03-2015, 12:32 AM
LeBron ahead of Kobe? I disagree.

marinoman
04-03-2015, 12:54 AM
Similar rankings to that of realgm outside of Hakeem. Over 1000 comments and half of them are koobytards upset and about a quarter rockette fans upset with Hakeem's ranking

Clipper Nation
04-03-2015, 12:58 AM
LeBron ahead of Kobe? I disagree.

:lol That of all things is what you're criticizing the list for? A role-playing cancerous chucker like Kirby being anywhere near the top 100 at all is what's really laughable.

Mikeanaro
04-03-2015, 01:36 AM
Dat list is pure shit.

CitizenDwayne
04-03-2015, 01:36 AM
How can you have a top 100 list without Robert Swift?

/list sucks

BG_Spurs_Fan
04-03-2015, 01:59 AM
Horrible list. Duncan at 5 and Jordan at 1 are prob the only decent choices.

Russo21
04-03-2015, 05:25 AM
Spastic list.

daslicer
04-03-2015, 09:42 AM
I find it entertaining to see the old heads angry that Duncan is ranked ahead of Bird and Magic.

Spur|n|Austin
04-03-2015, 09:45 AM
Great company in that top 5.

SASdynasty!
04-03-2015, 11:33 AM
I was actually suprised. I expected worse from Bleacher Report, but I don't think it's terrible. I agree completely with the top 6. Here are my top 15:

1. Jordan
2. KAJ
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Duncan
6. Magic
7. Bird
8. Shaq
9. Kobe
10. Hakeem
11. Lebron
12. Oscar
13. West
14. Dr. J
15. Dirk

I think they have Parker and Ginobili about right. I have Ginobili finishing top-75 when it's all said and done unless he has an unbelievable Finals and gets himself a FMVP or something. Outside of that, I don't see him having a shot at finishing top-50. A lot of that is how he sacrificed as a sixth man to help the team. If he played somewhere else and also was injured less, he probably would have had a shot to crack it.

Parker still has a really good chance to finish top 50. He has a FMVP, which only 29 other people can say (and IMO was pretty close in 2013 to have a 2nd, which only 10 people can say). He's the all-time playoff scoring leader for PGs (ahead of Magic). He's the winningest player of all-time through 1000 games. And at 32, he probably has several good years left and a decent chance to finish with 5 or 6 championships and possibly finish with multiple FMVPs. If he adds another title as a 1A/1B player (and especially if he wins another FMVP), he's a lock for top-50.

Robinson is top 20 in my book. And as far as Duncan, I certainly wouldn't argue with people who put him over Wilt (people who valued getting better in the postseason/winning) and even people who put him ahead of Russell (the argument being that with 8 teams in the league, Russell winning a title is basically equivalent to making the Conference Finals in today's NBA to some degree). To pass Kareem and Jordan (in my book FWIW), I think Duncan would have to win a couple more titles as the best player on the team, which would be really tough at this point. It's kind of weird, but I can actually see him making a case over Jordan before I can Kareem because Jordan has the holes in his resume, like being 1-9 in the playoffs without Pippen and having 5 seasons with a losing record (although in one of them he was injured for a lot of it). Kareem's only "hole" is that he got to play with Oscar and Magic, which actually is quite a huge benefit (two top-15 players). Duncan never had that luxury.

Cry Havoc
04-03-2015, 11:38 AM
Wilt and Bill :lmao

I'd put a guy like kobe over them and I hate kobe.

You're funny.

Cry Havoc
04-03-2015, 11:40 AM
Disregarding the rest of the list, I don't think Walt and Bill were better basketball players relative to Duncan. Kareem either.

Kareem and Jordan are the only two players in my book that have a convincing argument to be ahead of Duncan.

Cry Havoc
04-03-2015, 11:41 AM
Not a terrible list, but Bird and Dream are rated way too low.

SASdynasty!
04-03-2015, 11:41 AM
Wilt and Bill :lmao

I'd put a guy like kobe over them and I hate kobe.
LOL

SASdynasty!
04-03-2015, 11:42 AM
Not a terrible list, but Bird and Dream are rated way too low.
For sure.

urunobili
04-03-2015, 11:49 AM
Marion > Manu? :lol

marinoman
04-03-2015, 02:42 PM
Not a terrible list, but Bird and Dream are rated way too low.
Hakeem got the rockets to 50+ wins only 5 times. One of those times he was injured for 1/3 the season and the team went 16-10. Those championships and great post season runs make people forget

FkLA
04-03-2015, 02:50 PM
Parker still has a really good chance to finish top 50. He has a FMVP, which only 29 other people can say (and IMO was pretty close in 2013 to have a 2nd, which only 10 people can say). He's the all-time playoff scoring leader for PGs (ahead of Magic). He's the winningest player of all-time through 1000 games. And at 32, he probably has several good years left and a decent chance to finish with 5 or 6 championships and possibly finish with multiple FMVPs. If he adds another title as a 1A/1B player (and especially if he wins another FMVP), he's a lock for top-50.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

letmk
04-03-2015, 03:13 PM
Hakeem got the rockets to 50+ wins only 5 times. One of those times he was injured for 1/3 the season and the team went 16-10. Those championships and great post season runs make people forget

I certainly didn't know this. Only 5 seasons of 50+ wins? It's hard to imagine that!

SASdynasty!
04-03-2015, 03:18 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
Good argument as usual.

I've seen him top 75 already on lots of lists (including this one) and considering how much time he has left, he should be able to keep adding to his resume. His record for wins through 1,000 games may never be broken. Lebron would be the closest right now, but he could win the next 93 games (that puts him at 1,000 GP) and still be 24 wins short. His playoff scoring will be really hard to catch. There's pretty much no chance that a player like CP3 will catch it because he can't put together a good playoff run. Same for Curry unless we see them start performing better in the playoffs. A guy like Westbrook may have an outside chance, but probably not. So I'm talking about some pretty incredible all-time records (winningest player of all time through 1,000 games and highest playoff scoring PG of all time). Add championships, FMVP, ASGs, All-NBA, etc, etc, etc and I think he's got it.

TimmyDuncan21
04-03-2015, 03:56 PM
Timmy should be 4! but I can live with it
Manu IMO shouldnt be on that list, and Tony is like 80th

TimmyDuncan21
04-03-2015, 04:12 PM
Ill just say this I'm 30 and in my life time I have only seen one player better than Tim Duncan
and thats Jordan, so in the last 25-30 years hes #2 in my book. I know greatness when I see it

Diego20
04-03-2015, 04:20 PM
Timmy should be 4! but I can live with it
Manu IMO shouldnt be on that list, and Tony is like 80th


:lmao

barbacoataco
04-03-2015, 07:54 PM
Not a terrible list all things considered. I think you have to make 2 lists- one for peak value and one for career value. For example Duncan rates higher than Shaq for his career, but I still think Shaq was a more dominant player for a stretch, so he would rate higher in peak value.

As far as comparing players for different generations, you can't just dismiss the old players. Otherwise you might as well make a list of best players from the last 30 years.

Moses Malone always gets dissed on these lists. His credentials are pretty strong and he had a great career.

Another factor is that comparing players at different positions is impossible.

Happy to see Kareem at 2 because he was unstoppable and did it for a long time.

I would have Dennis Rodman higher.

Johnny RIngo
04-03-2015, 08:14 PM
Parker above Manu? This must be a regular season list. Would explain DRob over Hakeem too.

barbacoataco
04-03-2015, 08:22 PM
Hakeem and DRob were neck and neck their whole career. I'm not going to get into it all, but there's a lot more to the story than a couple of minutes of YouTube video from the 95 playoffs. Hakeem was inconsistent and an underperformer for much of his career. Robinson really was great and I think younger fans who didn't see him don't know. Just spend some time looking at his statistics.

Also you could say Robinson saved the Spurs and laid the groundwork for the incredible success they have achieved since 1999.