Video: White cop shoots anutha brutha

[spurraider21]

Why didn't he just shoot him in the leg or something. LOL shooting him multiple times. What an idiot.
you aren't instructed to shoot at limbs. when an officer opens fire, they aim center mass.

[The Reckoning]

both sides are wrong. this isn't a race issues...it's two idiots and one has a gun. listen to the cop and he might even like you and let you off. if not, take it to court and he won't show up and get it expunged. fight fire with fire.

i guess that requires a little more thought than just fleeing :lol. he took off like he was stealing home plate.

[Blake]

both sides are wrong. this isn't a race issues...it's two idiots and one has a gun. listen to the cop and he might even like you and let you off. if not, take it to court and he won't show up and get it expunged. fight fire with fire.

i guess that requires a little more thought than just fleeing :lol. he took off like he was stealing home plate.

The family attorney says he was most likely fleeing because he knew he had a warrant out for his arrest for failure to pay back child support payment. One side was way more wrong than the other. Not even in the same ballpark.

[DMC]

Here's what happened:

Scott reached for the cops taser or somehow dislodged it. Cop thought Scott took the taser and shot him in the back several times. Cop realized taser was on the ground next to him and took it over and dropped it next to the body. Cop is guilty of covering up a homicide, tampering with evidence, and the shooting itself.

[spurraider21]

Here's what happened:

Scott reached for the cops taser or somehow dislodged it. Cop thought Scott took the taser and shot him in the back several times. Cop realized taser was on the ground next to him and took it over and dropped it next to the body. Cop is guilty of covering up a homicide, tampering with evidence, and the shooting itself.
Yep, this one's pretty cut and dry

[Blake]

The video shows Scott reaching for the taser?

[Aztecfan03]

you aren't instructed to shoot at limbs. when an officer opens fire, they aim center mass.
they aren't instructed to shoot a fleeing, unarmed suspect either, but hitting him once in the leg would be better.

[spurraider21]

they aren't instructed to shoot a fleeing, unarmed suspect either, but hitting him once in the leg would be better.
No. If you have the time to line up a shot to a leg, you weren't in imminent danger. That is just lawsuit city

[Blake]

they aren't instructed to shoot a fleeing, unarmed suspect either, but hitting him once in the leg would be better.

then it would only be attempted murder charges

[Aztecfan03]

No. If you have the time to line up a shot to a leg, you weren't in imminent danger. That is just lawsuit city

That is the point. He wasn't in imminent danger.

[spurraider21]

That is the point. He wasn't in imminent danger.
I know. Therefore there shouldn't have been a shooting at all. I was responding to the "shoot him on the leg" comment. Either you are in a position where you need to shoot to kill, or there should be no shooting at all. There is no "shoot them in the leg" middle ground

[RD2191]

I know. Therefore there shouldn't have been a shooting at all. I was responding to the "shoot him on the leg" comment. Either you are in a position where you need to shoot to kill, or there should be no shooting at all. There is no "shoot them in the leg" middle ground
this actually makes plenty of sense. if you have to shoot to someone it's because your life or the lives of others are in imminent danger.

[spurraider21]

this actually makes plenty of sense. if you have to shoot to someone it's because your life or the lives of others are in imminent danger.
Yeah and that wasn't the case here. The guy was resisting arrest, but that's not a crime punishable by death nor is it threatening the life of anybody there. Cop could have radio'd for backup while maintaining pursuit

[Infinite_limit]

That is the point. He wasn't in imminent danger.
If he reached for the Officer's taser = shooting is justified

[weebo]

If he reached for the Officer's taser = shooting is justified

No. He never attempted to use the taser on the officer. At the point the officer reached for his side piece, the perp was already fleeing the scene without taser in hand. In Tennessee vs Garner, an officer is justified to use deadly force on a fleeing suspect if the officer feels the perp poses imminent danger to the officer or the public. The perp in this case posed no threat to the officer or public because a) he was running away from the officer and b) was not wielding a weapon.

[Infinite_limit]

No. He never attempted to use the taser on the officer. At the point the officer reached for his side piece, the perp was already fleeing the scene without taser in hand. In Tennessee vs Garner, an officer is justified to use deadly force on a fleeing suspect if the officer feels the perp poses imminent danger to the officer or the public. The perp in this case posed no threat to the officer or public because a) he was running away from the officer and b) was not wielding a weapon.
"if the officer feels"

Who are we to judge his feelings? He is face to face with a lying and evading criminal. He never had the chance to pat him down either.

[weebo]

"if the officer feels"

Who are we to judge his feelings? He is face to face with a lying and evading criminal. He never had the chance to pat him down either.

The courts will judge his feelings/intuition. That is what the courts are for and the reason this guy will get sentenced for murder. Under the law, law enforcement officers usually get a lot of leeway in cases like these (Darren Wilson comes to mind) but because there is visual evidence the courts will see the cop in this case was not justified in shooting the perp because he did not pose a threat to the officer or anyone else. He was just running away.

[Infinite_limit]

The courts will judge his feelings/intuition. That is what the courts are for and the reason this guy will get sentenced for murder. Under the law, law enforcement officers usually get a lot of leeway in cases like these (Darren Wilson comes to mind) but because there is visual evidence the courts will see the cop in this case was not justified in shooting the perp because he did not pose a threat to the officer or anyone else. He was just running away.
If it is deemed there was contact before the 2nd fleeing attempt (which it seems there was) the judgement will go differently than you are expecting.

If the Cop was blood thirsty, he would have shot him during the first fleeing attempt

[weebo]

If it is deemed there was contact before the 2nd fleeing attempt (which it seems there was) the judgement will go differently than you are expecting.

If the Cop was blood thirsty, he would have shot him during the first fleeing attempt

Don't fall into this racial trap the medial loves to play that now the cop is some blood thirsty bigot. The shooting officer will not be charged for shooting a black unarmed man. He will charged for using deadly force on an unarmed man who was resisting arrest by fleeing the scene. Again, the officer was not justified in shooting the perp because he did not pose immediate danger to the officer or the public.

[Infinite_limit]

Don't fall into this racial trap the medial loves to play that now the cop is some blood thirsty bigot. The shooting officer will not be charged for shooting a black unarmed man. He will charged for using deadly force on an unarmed man who was resisting arrest by fleeing the scene. Again, the officer was not justified in shooting the perp because he did not pose immediate danger to the officer or the public.
Your last sentence is hindsight.

All we/Officer know is a guy evading arrest during a traffic stop. We don't know if he has a knife or gun. He could have robbed a car and used it as a weapon. You have to assume the worst when an individual runs from the scene leaving behind his passenger.

[ChumpDumper]

Your last sentence is hindsight.

All we/Officer know is a guy evading arrest during a traffic stop. We don't know if he has a knife or gun. He could have robbed a car and used it as a weapon. You have to assume the worst when an individual runs from the scene leaving behind his passenger.No, you don't have to assume the worst. The officer didn't initially, which proves you completely wrong.

[Infinite_limit]

No, you don't have to assume the worst. The officer didn't initially, which proves you completely wrong.
The job of the Officer is keeping the general public safe. Allowing a maniac who has already illustrated he will avoid Jail at all costs, to run thru the neighborhood is wrong.

If I'm in that park with my daughter, I want him taken down at any costs necessary.

[ChumpDumper]

The job of the Officer is keeping the general public safe. Allowing a maniac who has already illustrated he will avoid Jail at all costs, to run thru the neighborhood is wrong.It wasn't at all costs.

He wasn't a maniac.


If I'm in that park with my daughter, I want him taken down at any costs necessary.You're a very fearful person.

[Infinite_limit]

It wasn't at all costs.

He wasn't a maniac.
Why do we have to make excuses for 0.00001% of the Human species?

Hundreds of Thousands of people are pulled over each day on Planet Earth. Hundreds of Thousands of people remain in their car.

He got his wish: He avoided jail.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do we have to make excuses for 0.00001% of the Human species?

Hundreds of Thousands of people are pulled over each day on Planet Earth. Hundreds of Thousands of people remain in their car.

He got his wish: He avoided jail.Nothing he did merited getting shot in the back multiple times.

[Infinite_limit]

Nothing he did merited getting shot in the back multiple times.
Will the video stop countless other individuals from evading arrest?

^ It was worth it. Streets are safer

[ChumpDumper]

Will the video stop countless other individuals from evading arrest?No.


^ It was worth it. Streets are saferFrom what? Deadbeat dads?

Now that kid will never get any support.

[weebo]

Your last sentence is hindsight.

All we/Officer know is a guy evading arrest during a traffic stop. We don't know if he has a knife or gun. He could have robbed a car and used it as a weapon. You have to assume the worst when an individual runs from the scene leaving behind his passenger.

Fleeing the scene does not justify the use of deadly force (a lot more violent criminals flee from arrest and are never shot). It is not how the law works. When the officer went back to his squad car (dash cam video) he more than likely was radioing the station at which point he probably learned the perp had a warrant for his arrest for unpaid child support. That is probably why the perp ran the first time. Now if the officer felt the perp had a weapon as you said, he would have established probable cause and the courts would have ruled in his favor (probably the reason he planted the taser after he shot the perp) but because there is video that the perp never attempted to place the officer or public in danger he was not justified to use deadly force. This is a case where two wrongs don't make a right. Unfortunately for the officer he will have to pay for his mistake, and for the other guy...well he's a corpse.

[Infinite_limit]

No.

From what? Deadbeat dads?

Now that kid will never get any support.
My parents always taught me, the wise learn from the mistakes of others.

From evading arrest. Respect authority. You will have your day in court.

[weebo]

Will the video stop countless other individuals from evading arrest?

^ It was worth it. Streets are safer

No. The video just made things a lot more unsafer for the public and police officers. Imagine the number of whack jobs out there that are going to want to take revenge on police officers.

[ChumpDumper]

My parents always taught me, the wise learn from the mistakes of others.

From evading arrest. Respect authority. You will have your day in court.Don't shoot unarmed men in the back who aren't a threat to anyone.

[Infinite_limit]

No. The video just made things a lot more unsafer for the public and police officers. Imagine the number of whack jobs out there that are going to want to take revenge on police officers.
They will also be killed. Consider it purging of the worthless

[Infinite_limit]

Don't shoot unarmed men in the back who aren't a threat to anyone.
Or we could teach people to respect authority and not break the Law.

1. Why are you driving with headlight out
2. Why are you driving without insurance
3. Why are you not making payments
4. Why do you have a warrant
5. Why are you evading arrest
6. Why are putting your hands on the Cop
7. Why are you evading arrest again

He's just a misunderstood 50 year old gentle giant

[ChumpDumper]

Or we could teach people to respect authority and not break the Law.

1. Why are you driving with headlight out
2. Why are you driving without insurance
3. Why are you not making payments
4. Why do you have a warrant
5. Why are you evading arrest
6. Why are putting your hands on the Cop
7. Why are you evading arrest again

He's just a misunderstood 50 year old gentle giantThe cop broke the law by murdering this guy.

[Chomag]

It's not a cops job to decide a death sentence but the victim does have some of the blame here. I do think what the cop did was excessive and should not have shot and he should be punished but if the victim had just complied he would have been alive today and still dodging child support bills buying luxury cars...

[spurraider21]

If he reached for the Officer's taser = shooting is justified
i would say MAYBE if the officer instantly reacted to the small scuffle over the taser and shot him point blank... but that's not what happened. the taser was knocked down, and the guy started running away. only after the guy was running did the officer open fire.

just because you reached for the taser doesn't mean there is some indefinite amount of time where you can be shot. at the very moment the shot was fired, the officer was not threatened or in imminent danger. that's what matters. you can't shoot someone and say "well i felt in danger 10 seconds ago"

[weebo]

i would say MAYBE if the officer instantly reacted to the small scuffle over the taser and shot him point blank... but that's not what happened. the taser was knocked down, and the guy started running away. only after the guy was running did the officer open fire.

just because you reached for the taser doesn't mean there is some indefinite amount of time where you can be shot. at the very moment the shot was fired, the officer was not threatened or in imminent danger. that's what matters. you can't shoot someone and say "well i felt in danger 10 seconds ago"

To add to your point, you can see the officer casually pull his firearm and fire while the guy was already several feet away.

[Chomag]

i would say MAYBE if the officer instantly reacted to the small scuffle over the taser and shot him point blank... but that's not what happened. the taser was knocked down, and the guy started running away. only after the guy was running did the officer open fire.

just because you reached for the taser doesn't mean there is some indefinite amount of time where you can be shot. at the very moment the shot was fired, the officer was not threatened or in imminent danger. that's what matters. you can't shoot someone and say "well i felt in danger 10 seconds ago"

I tend to agree with this. For instance, lets say If a home intruder breaks into your house you have the right to shoot them to defend yourself and homestead but the moment the perp turns his back and is moving away it can become murder. You cant chase someone down and kill them because they are no longer an immediate threat to you.

[Fun n Gun]

Presuming that the guy was going to kill someone is a huge leap. People run from the police for a variety of reasons. Assuming he was a killer and then shooting him because you don't know for sure either way, still makes the cop a murderer and stupid.

This isn't a hard concept here. Cops can't pull out their gun and shoot an unarmed man who is running away from them. Thus the murder charge.
Yep.

[703 Spurz]

It wasn't at all costs.

He wasn't a maniac.

You're a very fearful person.

I'd say he tried getting away at all costs. Running away twice? After wrestling with the cop on the ground?

[ChumpDumper]

I'd say he tried getting away at all costs. Running away twice? After wrestling with the cop on the ground?Did he kill the cop?

[703 Spurz]

Did he kill the cop?

I don't think he did. That to me doesn't mean he didn't try getting away at all costs.

[Infinite_limit]

Did he kill the cop?
Fortunately the Officer stopped him from doing that

[ChumpDumper]

Fortunately the Officer stopped him from doing thatNah, he was already running away.

The cop is going to prison for murdering the dude.

[Infinite_limit]

Nah, he was already running away.

The cop is going to prison for murdering the dude.
Ya running to probably hijack a car or to his homies crib to grab a gun

[ChumpDumper]

Ya running to probably hijack a car or to his homies crib to grab a gunProbably not.

[Infinite_limit]

Probably not.

Maybe not that day but maniac illustrated he would avoid jail at all costs. Someone was going to be harmed at his belligerent pursuit of that goal.

[Strange Love]

Maybe not that day but maniac illustrated he would avoid jail at all costs. Someone was going to be harmed at his belligerent pursuit of that goal.

LOL been watching Minority Report much?

We dont lock up or kill people for what they might do in the future.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe not that day but maniac illustrated he would avoid jail at all costs. Someone was going to be harmed at his belligerent pursuit of that goal.Probably not.

[Avante]

Maybe the bad guys will start thinking twice about breaking the law.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe the bad guys will start thinking twice about breaking the law.Yeah, cops will think twice about breaking the law.

[phxspurfan]

foul lol

[cd021]

Yeah, cops will think twice about breaking the law.

:tu

[Trill Clinton]

nvmnd

[Infinite_limit]

Yeah, cops will think twice about breaking the law.
Protecting the community is breaking the law?

No wonder America is such a backwards dump

[ChumpDumper]

Protecting the community is breaking the law?

No wonder America is such a backwards dumpMurderi is against the law.

[Ignignokt]

Nah, he was already running away.

The cop is going to prison for murdering the dude.

[Ignignokt]

Once again David is caught jumping to conclusions without knowing the facts .

[RD2191]

Once again David is caught jumping to conclusions without knowing the facts .
chump rarely knows what he's talking about.

[boutons_deux]

...

[SupremeGuy]

chump rarely knows what he's talking about.Please explain. :cry

[Trill Clinton]

mistrial smh

[cd021]

the "All Lives Matter" people silent :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

Black man in Cincinnati gets shot in the head at point blank range, after refusing to get out of the car. Cop lies about events and is later charged with murder- ends in a mistrial.

Black man in N. Carolina gets shot 5 times in the back from 18 feet away, has a weapon planted on his body, cop then lies about the events- ends in mistrial

Black man in Baltimore gets spine and vocal cords severed while in police custody, coroner rules it a homicide-the six officers all get off .

All three were unarmed

[clambake]

they shoulda armed themselves.