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King Emmanuel
04-10-2015, 08:20 AM
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Calispursfan11
04-10-2015, 08:21 AM
Lmao prince fielder. What a fatass

King Emmanuel
04-10-2015, 08:26 AM
by the way that last picture is supposed to be the best baseball player of all time

lol

FkLA
04-10-2015, 08:35 AM
smh why doesn't beisbol have nutrition programs for these walruses?

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 08:37 AM
:lmao

AlexJones
04-10-2015, 08:40 AM
I see all-stars and some of the best pure hitters in the game

Shane27
04-10-2015, 09:00 AM
how did you not include Mo Vaughn?

Blake
04-10-2015, 09:02 AM
http://wicketmaiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/baseball2.jpg

Pretty athletic looking move, imo

Blake
04-10-2015, 09:02 AM
Lol soccer

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-10-2015, 09:16 AM
This troll is horrible

Clipper Nation
04-10-2015, 09:36 AM
I see all-stars and some of the best pure hitters in the game
I see a sport that requires more intelligence and coordination than third-world kickball.

DMC
04-10-2015, 09:36 AM
http://s1.hubimg.com/u/6810828_f520.jpg

ViceCity86
04-10-2015, 09:37 AM
Josh Beckett in Redsox uni.Damn! No idea he got that big.

He and Miguel Cabrera were slim when they broke in with the Marlins.

These players get fatter when they become major leaguers.Big league salary and diet.

DMC
04-10-2015, 09:43 AM
I don't believe people get fatter because they make more money. If they were 3rd worlders like Messi or Renaldo that's one thing, but it's not like poor people in the US don't get fat. It's about personal choice, not about money or position or league.

Splits
04-10-2015, 09:45 AM
:lmao

hehateme
04-10-2015, 09:49 AM
starting pitchers have it the worst, they pitch one night and then sit on the bench scratching their balls another 5-6 days until their next turn

Splits
04-10-2015, 09:52 AM
starting pitchers have it the worst, they pitch one night and then sit on the bench scratching their balls another 5-6 days until their next turn

You try throwing a ball 100 times!!!!

hehateme
04-10-2015, 09:56 AM
You try throwing a ball 100 times!!!!

Yes, probably a nice workout for the 45min-1hr of actual game time but what about the rest of the week where they are inactive?

in2deep
04-10-2015, 09:57 AM
smh why doesn't beisbol have nutrition programs for these walruses?

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manufan10
04-10-2015, 10:00 AM
Most of the anti-baseball trolls on here probably couldn't even hit the ball at a batting cage in an amusement park much less a pitch from a MLB pitcher.

Blake
04-10-2015, 10:09 AM
Most of the anti-baseball trolls on here probably couldn't even hit the ball at a batting cage in an amusement park much less a pitch from a MLB pitcher.

but i bet most of the soccer haters can stand in a weird line during a soccer tie breaker kick

Blake
04-10-2015, 10:14 AM
http://www.monstersmean.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Soccer-Watch-07.jpg

Look at these small fries trying to make a wall. Need a line of Avantes, tbh

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
04-10-2015, 10:16 AM
Most of the anti-baseball trolls on here probably couldn't even hit the ball at a batting cage in an amusement park much less a pitch from a MLB pitcher.

Anyone that makes fun of baseball players obviously has never had a 90+mph fast ball thrown at them. That shit is hard as hell to hit. I was a very good hitter in HS but still, it take a lot of eye to hand coordination to hit something coming at you that fast and a lot of times swerving.

These guys might not be athletes in the physical sense, but definitely in the mental sense of the word.

CavsSuperFan
04-10-2015, 10:35 AM
Lmao prince fielder. What a fato
That is just a bad picture of him...Here is another photo... As one can see he is quite svelte...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1xtSR9so--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/m0wsre9rmz6tavzgrtls.png

100%duncan
04-10-2015, 10:39 AM
but i bet most of the soccer haters can stand in a weird line during a soccer tie breaker kick
:lol

Spur-Addict
04-10-2015, 10:49 AM
The athleticism and physical competence required for soccer/futbol comparatively to baseball is on a another level. And I understand it's extremely hard to hit a 100 MPH ball, from what I've heard the average team hits somewhere around the mid .200's, a little lower I think. But it's all reaction/hand-eye coordination coupled with the occasional sprint. Which all of these are incorporated in all major sports. Granted, not at the same level in short bursts, but there is an all around aspect that severely lacks in Baseball that makes it loose it's credibility in terms of raw athleticism. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't really care for either sport. Futbol/soccer is boring, but baseball is the absolute worst in terms of being watchable, and in terms of the athlete that it attracts more often than not.

manufan10
04-10-2015, 10:50 AM
That is just a bad picture of him...Here is another photo... As one can see he is quite svelte...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1xtSR9so--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/m0wsre9rmz6tavzgrtls.png

David Ortiz isn't really all that fat either.... there's a documentary on him chronicling the 2013 season, and the guy puts in work in the weight room.

Blake
04-10-2015, 10:53 AM
The athleticism and physical competence required for soccer/futbol comparatively to baseball is on a another level.


http://1000uglypeople.com/wp-content/uploads/Fat-Soccer-Player-Fugly-Fat-Guy.jpg

Spur-Addict
04-10-2015, 10:58 AM
http://1000uglypeople.com/wp-content/uploads/Fat-Soccer-Player-Fugly-Fat-Guy.jpg

:lol Male Pregnancy

And what level is this? Any fat ass could pick any ball up in a random rec league.

FkLA
04-10-2015, 10:59 AM
Most of those walruses would probably die after 15 mins of running around in soccer. Hitting is hard but so is swinging a golf club. Like HH said there is like 8 minutes of actual action in the average beisbol game...the rest is 4 hrs of chewing sunflower seeds, ball scratching and spitting tbh.

skmblz
04-10-2015, 11:06 AM
That is just a bad picture of him...Here is another photo... As one can see he is quite svelte...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1xtSR9so--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/m0wsre9rmz6tavzgrtls.png

photoshop doin work

FkLA
04-10-2015, 11:08 AM
Baseball: Of all the stats tracked in baseball, average running distance isn't one of them. Some New Yorkers walk a greater distance to work each day than the average player runs during a game, which is likely less than half a mile even for multiple home run hitters and fielders. The bases are only 90 feet apart after all, Gizmodo notes.

Soccer: Long games, a massive field and a constantly moving ball add up to serious distance for soccer players. STATS puts the average at 7 miles per game depending on position, and as much as 9.5 miles for some players (not including goalies, of course).

http://m.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/sports-run-stats-show-burns-shoe-leather-article-1.1307763

Just fucking embarrassing tbh. :lol

Blake
04-10-2015, 11:14 AM
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID27365/images/Boston-Marathon-winners.jpg

Greatest athlete in the world

#soccer

FkLA
04-10-2015, 11:27 AM
^Dumb argument. A combination of athleticism and skill makes a great athlete. In beisbol you can be fat and slow and still be an elite beisbol player. :lol

Blake
04-10-2015, 11:29 AM
^Dumb argument. A combination of athleticism and skill makes a great athlete.

Athleticism helps make a great athlete? go figure

FkLA
04-10-2015, 11:31 AM
Apparently a lack of it doesn't stop beisbol players from being elite though.

Blake
04-10-2015, 11:35 AM
Apparently a lack of it doesn't stop beisbol players from being elite though.

What's your definition of athleticism

spurraider21
04-10-2015, 11:51 AM
That is just a bad picture of him...Here is another photo... As one can see he is quite svelte...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1xtSR9so--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/m0wsre9rmz6tavzgrtls.png
I hope he made his own music video for wrecking ball

FkLA
04-10-2015, 11:53 AM
What's your definition of athleticism

Same one as everyone else's? Speed, quickness, vertical, endurance, strength, etc. Coordination with a baseball/soccer ball/basketball/etc is more skill-oriented imo.

manufan10
04-10-2015, 12:02 PM
Same one as everyone else's? Speed, quickness, vertical, endurance, strength, etc. Coordination with a baseball/soccer ball/basketball/etc is more skill-oriented imo.

What about coordination in swinging a bat? Or catching a fly ball? Or a grounder?

weebo
04-10-2015, 12:21 PM
Baseball is a sport that emphasizes skill more than athleticism. Comparing soccer/futbol to baseball is like comparing tennis to golf. Both are sports but require different skill sets in order to be successful. If were going to say soccer players are more "athletic" than baseball players because their sport requires greater endurance and agility, than we have to say that tennis players are greater athletes than soccer players because tennis players require great endurance and agility plus great eye hand coordination.

Malik Hairston
04-10-2015, 12:25 PM
^^Tennis requires a ton of athleticism, tbh, why would anybody think otherwise?

Baseball takes an extreme level of skill to play, but I don't know how anybody can deny that it doesn't require notable athleticism in relation to other pro sports:lol..its closer to golf than anything..

Clipper Nation
04-10-2015, 12:31 PM
^^Tennis requires a ton of athleticism, tbh, why would anybody think otherwise?

Baseball takes an extreme level of skill to play, but I don't know how anybody can deny that it doesn't require notable athleticism in relation to other pro sports:lol..its closer to golf than anything..
Athleticism is a huge advantage in the field and on the basepaths, tbh. Before the steroid era, the best teams used to load up on fast and athletic players so that they could play small-ball and shutdown defense. Basically how the Royals are built now.

manufan10
04-10-2015, 12:45 PM
The only really non-athletic guys are pitchers, DH, and 1B.

manufan10
04-10-2015, 12:47 PM
I don't think anyone can say that this isn't athletic:

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whitemamba
04-10-2015, 12:49 PM
soccer and baseball shouldnt be in the same discussion, baseball is an embarrassment to humanity.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
04-10-2015, 12:49 PM
I don't think anyone can say that this isn't athletic:

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I was just going to make a comment about Ozzie Smith, who was actually my favorite baseball player growing up.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
04-10-2015, 12:56 PM
soccer and baseball shouldnt be in the same discussion, baseball is an embarrassment to humanity.

Dude, I find baseball boring, but it actually takes more mental skill to play baseball than soccer, which I played both in HS.

Try grounding a ball coming at you at a 100 mph and throw a pin perfect pass across your body. Like I said, try hitting a 90+ mph fast/curve ball. Try throwing a ball 90+ mph and let's see how accurate of a pitcher you are, if you can have a high % of those pitches landing in the strike zone.

Soccer requires much more stamina, but as far as skill, baseball acquire a lot more. Because in soccer, you can dictate how the ball interacts with your feet. Unless your a pitcher, you have to guess and react on almost every ball coming your way and its going much faster than a soccer ball is traveling.

Mitch
04-10-2015, 01:04 PM
You have to lift a lot of food to get that baseball physique.

DAF86
04-10-2015, 01:09 PM
Dude, I find baseball boring, but it actually takes more mental skill to play baseball than soccer, which I played both in HS.

Try grounding a ball coming at you at a 100 mph and throw a pin perfect pass across your body. Like I said, try hitting a 90+ mph fast/curve ball. Try throwing a ball 90+ mph and let's see how accurate of a pitcher you are, if you can have a high % of those pitches landing in the strike zone.

Soccer requires much more stamina, but as far as skill, baseball acquire a lot more. Because in soccer, you can dictate how the ball interacts with your feet. Unless your a pitcher, you have to guess and react on almost every ball coming your way and its going much faster than a soccer ball is traveling.

Please film a video of you walking (not running, not dribbling, not dribbling between opposing players trying to get the ball off you) just walking all alone with the ball on your feet to let us all laugh at how awkward you will look.

CavsSuperFan
04-10-2015, 01:15 PM
photoshop doin work

I was joking about Fielder having a svelte physique...Of course he is a fatto…:lol

whitemamba
04-10-2015, 01:17 PM
Dude, I find baseball boring, but it actually takes more mental skill to play baseball than soccer, which I played both in HS.

Try grounding a ball coming at you at a 100 mph and throw a pin perfect pass across your body. Like I said, try hitting a 90+ mph fast/curve ball. Try throwing a ball 90+ mph and let's see how accurate of a pitcher you are, if you can have a high % of those pitches landing in the strike zone.

Soccer requires much more stamina, but as far as skill, baseball acquire a lot more. Because in soccer, you can dictate how the ball interacts with your feet. Unless your a pitcher, you have to guess and react on almost every ball coming your way and its going much faster than a soccer ball is traveling.

my dude, im not sayin baseball is easy. im sayin its boring as fuck, the sport has been on a steroid tear for years, but worst of all its not entertaining. Watching messi or ronaldo, who ever u want dribble through people and drop one from 50 feet out is far more impressive imho.

RsxPiimp
04-10-2015, 01:25 PM
my dude, im not sayin baseball is easy. im sayin its boring as fuck, the sport has been on a steroid tear for years, but worst of all its not entertaining. Watching messi or ronaldo, who ever u want dribble through people and drop one from 50 feet out is far more impressive imho.

Boring to watch, fun as hell when you play it tho

FlAVaK
04-10-2015, 01:47 PM
That is just a bad picture of him...Here is another photo... As one can see he is quite svelte...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1xtSR9so--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/m0wsre9rmz6tavzgrtls.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRj7mAhCYAAQehx.jpg

lefty
04-10-2015, 01:50 PM
King Emmanuel ethering those clowns :lol

weebo
04-10-2015, 01:56 PM
Please film a video of you walking (not running, not dribbling, not dribbling between opposing players trying to get the ball off you) just walking all alone with the ball on your feet to let us all laugh at how awkward you will look.

And you film yourself attempting to hit a 90mph straight fastball ( you don't even have to make contact because you probably won't) to let us laugh at how much of a sissy boy you will look. Hell man, just put on a glove and go shag some fly balls and see if you can manage that without looking like a total faggot. :lol

Double-Up
04-10-2015, 01:58 PM
I'd rather see tits cure the sick than fat male negros and honkies...


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weebo
04-10-2015, 02:00 PM
my dude, im not sayin baseball is easy. im sayin its boring as fuck, the sport has been on a steroid tear for years, but worst of all its not entertaining. Watching messi or ronaldo, who ever u want dribble through people and drop one from 50 feet out is far more impressive imho.

Ya like running around kicking and chasing after a ball for 90 minutes is loads of fun. :lol In soccer, much like baseball, rarely anything exciting happens.

Blake
04-10-2015, 02:00 PM
Just curious, how many miles does the average soccer goalie run in an average game?

Is the goalie considered the baseball player of the soccer team?

DAF86
04-10-2015, 02:14 PM
And you film yourself attempting to hit a 90mph straight fastball ( you don't even have to make contact because you probably won't) to let us laugh at how much of a sissy boy you will look. Hell man, just put on a glove and go shag some fly balls and see if you can manage that without looking like a total faggot. :lol

Yeah, because hitting a 90mph pitch it's the equivalent to trying to walk with a ball on your feet while being all alone in your backyard. :lol

And lol at flyballs, I've played baseball before. That shit it's pretty damn easy.

DAF86
04-10-2015, 02:16 PM
Just curious, how many miles does the average soccer goalie run in an average game?

Is the goalie considered the baseball player of the soccer team?

Hell of a lot more than a baseball player, that's for sure.

weebo
04-10-2015, 02:24 PM
Yeah, because hitting a 90mph pitch it's the equivalent to trying to walk with a ball on your feet while being all alone in your backyard. :lol

And lol at flyballs, I've played baseball before. That shit it's pretty damn easy.

Been playing soccer on an off my entire life. Controlling a soccer ball is like riding a bike son. :lol Once you've got the muscle memory down it ain't no thang.

Blake
04-10-2015, 02:26 PM
Hell of a lot more than a baseball player, that's for sure.

Than a center fielder, probably not.

DAF86
04-10-2015, 02:31 PM
Than a center fielder, probably not.

Yeah, probably too. Keepers are on constant movement to try to block the angles of the goal depending where the ball is (no matter how far it is) and many times they have to cover long distances to try to clear a ball, the same kind of distances a center fielder has to cover when catching a flyball.

DAF86
04-10-2015, 02:32 PM
For example



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOqLOTN75x8

Go to the 1:40 mark.

DAF86
04-10-2015, 02:39 PM
Been playing soccer on an off my entire life. Controlling a soccer ball is like riding a bike son. :lol Once you've got the muscle memory down it ain't no thang.

Well, that's my point. To don't look like a complete tool trying to walk with a ball in your feet you need to have played the game for a long period time. There's just no way you can come out of nowhere and dribble a ball in a decent manner.

Sean Cagney
04-10-2015, 02:41 PM
Most of those walruses would probably die after 15 mins of running around in soccer. Hitting is hard but so is swinging a golf club. Like HH said there is like 8 minutes of actual action in the average beisbol game...the rest is 4 hrs of chewing sunflower seeds, ball scratching and spitting tbh.

Bo Jackson and Ricky Henderson played baseball too TBH, they were in pretty good shape.

Blake
04-10-2015, 02:42 PM
Lol no long distance running seen in that video.

At best, it's a wash between a goalie and an out fielder

spurraider21
04-10-2015, 02:44 PM
For example



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOqLOTN75x8

Go to the 1:40 mark.
Neuer is unusually active for a keeper though... part of what makes him the best. fucking germans, from kahn to neuer (with lehmann in between)

weebo
04-10-2015, 02:46 PM
Well, that's my point. To don't look like a complete tool trying to walk with a ball in your feet you need to have played the game for a long period time. There's just no way you can come out of nowhere and dribble a ball in a decent manner.

Just like there is no way you can hit a 90 mph fast ball coming out of nowhere. What's your point?

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
04-10-2015, 02:51 PM
Please film a video of you walking (not running, not dribbling, not dribbling between opposing players trying to get the ball off you) just walking all alone with the ball on your feet to let us all laugh at how awkward you will look.

that's why 9 out of 10 times you get the ball taken from you in soccer when you go one-on-one against multiple defenders. Most goals are scored off of set pieces or penalties.

Most soccer matches consist of players dribbling in the back and midfield when not too much pressure. You make it sound like for 90 minutes plus you are dribbling against extreme pressure. Please, it is obvious you have never played soccer at a JV level by comment you just made.

Infinite_limit
04-10-2015, 03:01 PM
Difficulty

1. Hitting home run
2. Goal in Soccer
3. Goal in Hockey
4. Scoring Touchdown
5. Making 3 pointer

DAF86
04-10-2015, 03:14 PM
Lol no long distance running seen in that video.

The fuck? Do you even know how big a soccer pitch is? :lol


At best, it's a wash between a goalie and an out fielder


The bases are only 90 feet apart, so even if you hit three homers in a game, that's only 1,080 feet. Even if an outfielder did that and chased balls like crazy on defensive he probably wouldn't break half a mile. http://gizmodo.com/5992583/how-far-do-you-run-in-different-sports


How much does a football goalkeeper usually run in a 90 minute game?

On an average, 2 miles. But depending on the nature of the game, it can extend upto 3 miles, as seen by Pinto in the recent Atletico Madrid vs Barcelona champions league showdown. http://www.quora.com/How-much-does-a-football-goalkeeper-usually-run-in-a-90-minute-game

DAF86
04-10-2015, 03:16 PM
Just like there is no way you can hit a 90 mph fast ball coming out of nowhere. What's your point?

That hitting 90mph fastball is a pro thing, walking with a ball in your feet isn't. It isn't really that hard to understand right? :lol

DAF86
04-10-2015, 03:17 PM
that's why 9 out of 10 times you get the ball taken from you in soccer when you go one-on-one against multiple defenders. Most goals are scored off of set pieces or penalties.

Most soccer matches consist of players dribbling in the back and midfield when not too much pressure. You make it sound like for 90 minutes plus you are dribbling against extreme pressure. Please, it is obvious you have never played soccer at a JV level by comment you just made.

Sorry to break it down for you but you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

:lol I'm actually a former semi-pro footballer. Thanks for asking.

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 03:19 PM
it's an insult to the beautiful game to be compared to a skills challenge like baseball.

I've played baseball, Soccer, Hockey, Basketball, Football..all in a somewhat competitive level and nothing compares to soccer in terms of intensity and endurance..

Basketball and Hockey are tiring as fuk as well.

Football was a breeze...

But, IMO, baseball is one sport you xan't juts randomly play without some sort of competitive experience...

Hitting a ball is not easy..Srs.

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 03:20 PM
Sorry to break it down for you butyou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

:lol I'm actually a former semi-pro footballer. Thanks for asking.

That was by far the dumbest take I've read in spurstalk for a while..

:lmao

Soccer is totally different animal..It's the most physically demanding sport I've ever played in my life...

spurraider21
04-10-2015, 03:23 PM
:lol "somewhat competitive level"

Blake
04-10-2015, 03:38 PM
The fuck? Do you even know how big a soccer pitch is? :lol



http://gizmodo.com/5992583/how-far-do-you-run-in-different-sports

http://www.quora.com/How-much-does-a-football-goalkeeper-usually-run-in-a-90-minute-game

Oh, so an extra mile and a half? Like what, a extra 9-10 minutes of running?

Wow what athletic amazement

weebo
04-10-2015, 03:40 PM
That hitting 90mph fastball is a pro thing, walking with a ball in your feet isn't. It isn't really that hard to understand right? :lol

What the hell does walking around with a ball on your foot have to do with soccer? It's like me saying try catching a ball with your eyes closed. :lol

DAF86
04-10-2015, 03:43 PM
Oh, so an extra mile and a half? Like what, a extra 9-10 minutes of running?

Wow what athletic amazement

It was an extreme example of the most a baseball player could ever run on a game vs the average a goalie runs on a game. I don't even know what you're arguing. A made up example of an outfielder hitting 3 home runs in a game and getting every out on the defensive end comes up 1 and a half mile short of the average a keeper runs on a soccer match. Congrats, I guess. :lol

DAF86
04-10-2015, 03:46 PM
What the hell does walking around with a ball on your foot have to do with soccer? It's like me saying try catching a ball with your eyes closed. :lol

I'm saying that even the most basic skill of soccer (dribling) takes a whole lot of effort to master. I thought that point was clear.

And no, walking with a ball in your feet is easier than actual dribbling, trying to catch a ball with your eyes closed isn't easier than catching a ball with your eyes open which is what baseball player do. smh. :lol

Blake
04-10-2015, 03:50 PM
It was an extreme example of the most a baseball player could ever run on a game vs the average a goalie runs on a game. I don't even know what you're arguing. A made up example of an outfielder hitting 3 home runs in a game and getting every out on the defensive end comes up 1 and a half mile short of the average a keeper runs on a soccer match. Congrats, I guess. :lol

mehhh, soccer nuthuggers here love to flail about how soccer is so fucking athletic but in the end it only amounts to jogging a few extra miles that any 50 year old menopausal woman that has a 26.2 bumper sticker on her Toyota prius can do.

weebo
04-10-2015, 03:55 PM
I'm saying that even the most basic skill of soccer (dribling) takes a whole lot of effort to master. I thought that point was clear.

And no, walking with a ball in your feet is easier than actual dribbling, trying to catch a ball with your eyes closed isn't easier than catching a ball with your eyes open which is what baseball player do. smh. :lol

Any basic skill in any sport takes a lot of effort to master. I don't see how mastering the art of dribbling a ball with your feet in futbol takes a lot more effort than hitting or catching a live ball in a game. I know you want to come off as a big time athlete or some shit because futbol/soccer is your sport, but I've played it off and on my entire life and it really doesn't require any more effort to learn than any other sport I've learned to play.

Cry Havoc
04-10-2015, 03:56 PM
Hitting a baseball well is extremely difficult, that's why the best hitters in the game do it no more than 1/3rd of the time they stand at the plate. :lol

Floyd Pacquiao
04-10-2015, 04:03 PM
In order to play soccer at the pro level you have to be in peak physical condition. You can't be a fatass like in mlb.
Soccer requires speed, endurance and elite foot eye coordination.

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 04:26 PM
mehhh, soccer nuthuggers here love to flail about how soccer is so fucking athletic but in the end it only amounts to jogging a few extra miles that any 50 year old menopausal woman that has a 26.2 bumper sticker on her Toyota prius can do.

you have no idea what you're talking about and I am 100% sure your cardio sucks.

Blake
04-10-2015, 04:37 PM
you have no idea what you're talking about and I am 100% sure your cardio sucks.

So I'm wrong so my personal cardio sucks.

that's showing me.

Blake
04-10-2015, 04:38 PM
On average a soccer player runs only around 200 meters with the ball during a game.

http://www.takethemagicstep.com/coaching/athletes/training-exercise/why-soccer-players-have-to-be-good-runners/

Rofl that's 0.124 miles.

Lol soccer nut huggers

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 04:40 PM
So I'm wrong so my personal cardio sucks.

that's showing me.

Ask Steve nash..

Every damn Athlete in the world who have played soccer before admit how much endurance plays in soccer..Nothing comes close.

You obviously haven't played the sports at a high level like some of us do here, so it's funny that you here trying to argue about sports.

Did you ever play D1,D2,D3 Sports?

Malik Hairston
04-10-2015, 04:41 PM
Why do baseball fans keep reverting their arguments to the "skills" portion of the game? I don't think anybody would deny the difficulty in either batting or pitching, tbh..

I'm not even a baseball hater, but I don't see how it can be argued as an "athletic" sport when you compare it to soccer/basketball/football/tennis, etc..

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 04:42 PM
Rofl that's 0.124 miles.

Lol soccer nut huggers

You just proved you haven't played the sports at all..

Thanks.

Let the the guys who have played some sort of competitive sport talk about sports..Ok.

Malik Hairston
04-10-2015, 04:43 PM
I actually tried baseball in High School, the coach made me try out because of my arm strength(displayed in dodgeball, tbh:lmao), and while I had the power to throw, I had virtually no accuracy..I have no idea how pro pitchers can throw with that type of velocity, yet remain accurate, it is amazing..

Not athletic, though..

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 04:44 PM
Why do baseball fans keep reverting their arguments to the "skills" portion of the game? I don't think anybody would deny the difficulty in either batting or pitching, tbh..

I'm not even a baseball hater, but I don't see how it can be argued as an "athletic" sport when you compare it to soccer/basketball/football/tennis, etc..

The funny thing is that Soccer and Hockey probably requires more complex skills than baseball...

I admit, not everyone can hit triple 20's in darts...Good for baseball they have something like that going for them.

Blake
04-10-2015, 04:46 PM
Ask Steve nash..

Every damn Athlete in the world who have played soccer before admit how much endurance plays in soccer..Nothing comes close.

You obviously haven't played the sports at a high level like some of us do here, so it's funny that you here trying to argue about sports.

Did you ever play D1,D2,D3 Sports?

Rofl i don't give a shit about Steve Nash.

You guys are the ones trying to claim you have to be bad ass athletically to play soccer, but you can be a fat piece of shit and be an MLB MVP.

:cry go ask Barry Bonds

:lol soccer freaks

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 04:49 PM
you can be a fat peixe of shit in the MLB. pretty sure the pix are enough to prove that.

And yes you have to be a total bad ass with endurance to play competitive soccer..

Not sure what you have proven in this thread.

Blake
04-10-2015, 04:49 PM
You just proved you haven't played the sports at all..

Thanks.

Let the the guys who have played some sort of competitive sport talk about sports..Ok.

I just proved the guy with ball runs a tenth of a mile per game while the rest are just running.

you guys argument basically means that skinny little marathon dudes are the best athletes in the world

Blake
04-10-2015, 04:50 PM
you can be a fat peixe of shit in the MLB. pretty sure the pix are enough to prove that.

And yes you have to be a total bad ass with endurance to play competitive soccer..

Not sure what you have proven in this thread.

Those fat pieces of shit are athletic too, dumbass.

Lol soccer idiots

apalisoc_9
04-10-2015, 04:51 PM
Those fat pieces of shit are athletic too, dumbass.

Lol soccer idiots

Nope...

have you played any competitive ball before? Semi-pro?

college? even HS?

Provincial?

Pelicans78
04-10-2015, 05:11 PM
People should watch the Royals. Their team is very athletic outside of the DH.

Pelicans78
04-10-2015, 05:13 PM
And you can only play one position if you're too heavy and that's mainly DH now. Even 1B are becoming more athletic since the steroid era has ended. Defense and speed are becoming paramount since pitching is clearly dominating hitting.

Blake
04-10-2015, 05:29 PM
Nope...

have you played any competitive ball before? Semi-pro?

college? even HS?

Provincial?

soccer? Played up to 9th grade.

I remember playing mid field/half back. It was a shit load of running with the occasional kick or tackle attempt.

Raven
04-10-2015, 05:37 PM
baseball is not a sport, it's a game. It is hard, it is amazing (i guess), but it's not a sport. It's as much a sport as is playing golf or playing poker.

Blizzardwizard
04-10-2015, 05:41 PM
Beisbol being destroyed once again :lol

Not even a sport :lol

weebo
04-10-2015, 05:46 PM
baseball is not a sport, it's a game. It is hard, it is amazing (i guess), but it's not a sport. It's as much a sport as is playing golf or playing poker.

What constitutes a sport in your mind?

Malik Hairston
04-10-2015, 05:56 PM
And you can only play one position if you're too heavy and that's mainly DH now. Even 1B are becoming more athletic since the steroid era has ended. Defense and speed are becoming paramount since pitching is clearly dominating hitting.

It's a tough position for baseball to be in IMO, as the game was much more exciting in the steroid era IMO(as a casual fan that loved baseball in the Bonds era:lol)..

FkLA
04-10-2015, 06:01 PM
:lol Athletic baseball players don't make the game itself athletic. I haven't really followed baseball much but back in the day when I followed the Cubs I remember Cory Patterson was a really good athlete...stole a tons of bases and covered a lot of ground at CF. Never developed into a good hitter though so he fizzled out. Meanwhile walruses like Carlos Zambrano and Aramis Ramirez (before he lost weight) went on to have long careers.

Being in optimal shape is not a requirement in beisbol. You can't really say that about any other real sport, not sure why that is even an argument tbh.

Pelicans78
04-10-2015, 06:02 PM
It's a tough position for baseball to be in IMO, as the game was much more exciting in the steroid era IMO(as a casual fan that loved baseball in the Bonds era:lol)..

Yeah offenses have taken a hit the last few years. Pitchers are dominating hitters like never before. Game is going back to the 70s and 80s where speed and defense are becoming more important.

The positive is games won't be as long as they were in the steroid era where offenses were dominating.

But I don't watch much baseball outside of the Royals. Same with the NBA as well nowadays.

Strange Love
04-10-2015, 06:02 PM
This is a nice enough attempt but...what about the other 98% of the fit position players around the league?

Raven
04-10-2015, 06:02 PM
What constitutes a sport in your mind?

an activity that forces you into passing the anaerobic threshold...

FkLA
04-10-2015, 06:04 PM
This is a nice enough attempt but...what about the other 98% of the fit position players around the league?

They probably spend a couple minutes in motion per game when on base/fielding a ball. The rest of the four hours they're stationary or on the bench chewing sunflower seeds tbh.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-10-2015, 06:06 PM
I actually tried baseball in High School, the coach made me try out because of my arm strength(displayed in dodgeball, tbh:lmao), and while I had the power to throw, I had virtually no accuracy..I have no idea how pro pitchers can throw with that type of velocity, yet remain accurate, it is amazing..

Not athletic, though..
It's tough. I practiced hours upon hours to get the accuracy down and I still had bad accuracy games on the AAU level. You're wrong about athleticism though.

Strange Love
04-10-2015, 06:07 PM
They probably spend a couple minutes in motion per game when on base/fielding a ball. The rest of the four hours they're stationary or on the bench chewing sunflower seeds tbh.

Doesn't matter what they're doing. This thread is about who's in shape and who's not, right? You can pick from a handful of baseball players that are abit on the heavy side, but what about the rest that make up that difference and more?

Good for a laugh but not too bright when you sit and think about it.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-10-2015, 06:07 PM
:lol Athletic baseball players don't make the game itself athletic. I haven't really followed baseball much but back in the day when I followed the Cubs I remember Cory Patterson was a really good athlete...stole a tons of bases and covered a lot of ground at CF. Never developed into a good hitter though so he fizzled out. Meanwhile walruses like Carlos Zambrano and Aramis Ramirez (before he lost weight) went on to have long careers.

Being in optimal shape is not a requirement in beisbol. You can't really say that about any other real sport, not sure why that is even an argument tbh.
If you're not in shape, you will get thrown out on first quite a lot.

Pelicans78
04-10-2015, 06:08 PM
Soccer players are athletic with their speed and stamina, but they don't compare athletically to football or basketball players.

Malik Hairston
04-10-2015, 06:09 PM
It's tough. I practiced hours upon hours to get the accuracy down and I still had bad accuracy games on the AAU level. You're wrong about athleticism though.

When I question baseball's athleticism, I'm comparing it to other pro sports, tbh..

I'm sure most, if not all pro baseball players are at least above average athletes compared to regular people..some of the guys in the league are certainly high-level athletes, too..shit, Jim Thome is probably more athletic than most average people:lol..

Pelicans78
04-10-2015, 06:10 PM
When I question baseball's athleticism, I'm comparing it to other pro sports, tbh..

I'm sure most, if not all pro baseball players are at least above average athletes compared to regular people..shit, Jim Thome is probably more athletic than most average people:lol..

I think most baseball players are stronger than most soccer players.

Malik Hairston
04-10-2015, 06:10 PM
Soccer players are athletic with their speed and stamina, but they don't compare athletically to football or basketball players.

This is true, same for Hockey..

The NFL requires the least amount of skill of any sport(outside of QB and maybe possession WRs), it's almost a purely athletic sport..

midnightpulp
04-10-2015, 06:16 PM
You have to be a world class athlete in the traditional sense of the word to play the outfield positions, primarily centerfield. If you don't have wide receiver/running back tier speed and a 30-40" vertical, you can't play the outfield at a professional level. And in addition to that, you have to have a cannon of an arm, a great glove, know how to run the bases with speed, and be able to hit. Objectively speaking, an MLB outfielder might be the most demanding position out of the big sports. Just because you're not jogging around for 90 minutes doesn't mean it's not "athletic."

Take Bo Jackson for instance. Football was basically a hobby for him and he was the best running back in the game from day one until his hip injury. In baseball, Bo's main passion, he was a decent power hitter and made some exciting plays, but he was nowhere near the level of Bonds (even before the roids), Griffey Jr., etc.

I'll say again, baseball is extremely difficult because you can't mask a poor skillset with freakish athleticism, like you can in the NBA and NFL.

FkLA
04-10-2015, 06:17 PM
If you're not in shape, you will get thrown out on first quite a lot.

lol no

I mean you might not get any infield hits (neither do the fat guys in the OP though) but you won't get thrown out on a hit that gets past the infield tbh.


Soccer players are athletic with their speed and stamina, but they don't compare athletically to football or basketball players.

Probably. Basketball has that combination of height, athleticism and skill. Football has that combination of size, athleticism and skill.

I do think plenty of soccer players have the speed to play football if they trained for it though. If football was more global Europe, Africa and South America would produce plenty of football players imo.

weebo
04-10-2015, 06:27 PM
an activity that forces you into passing the anaerobic threshold...

What makes you think that a baseball player doesn't require endurance? Maybe not at the level of a soccer player but then again a soccer player doesn't have the AT marathon runner. That doesn't make a soccer player any less of an athlete. Also, if you've ever played you would know that position players are constantly moving during live play. So let's not act like they're sitting on lawn chairs while the game is going on. Let's also not forget that even though soccer players play 90 minute matches they play maybe once or twice a week, while baseball players may end up playing 6-7 games a week. If you don't think requires endurance, then you've never really played any kind of competitive sport your entire life.

weebo
04-10-2015, 06:30 PM
:lol Athletic baseball players don't make the game itself athletic. I haven't really followed baseball much but back in the day when I followed the Cubs I remember Cory Patterson was a really good athlete...stole a tons of bases and covered a lot of ground at CF. Never developed into a good hitter though so he fizzled out. Meanwhile walruses like Carlos Zambrano and Aramis Ramirez (before he lost weight) went on to have long careers.

Being in optimal shape is not a requirement in beisbol. You can't really say that about any other real sport, not sure why that is even an argument tbh.

Well you can say the same thing about football players. Look at some of the QB's.....I think everyone would agree those guys are athletes despite their size.

midnightpulp
04-10-2015, 06:31 PM
Another example.

The world's fastest soccer player reaches speeds up to 20 mph (and I think this is on a dead sprint without the ball) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2662904/Darijo-Srna-makes-Arjen-Robben-look-slow-records-33km-h-sprint-worlds-fastest-footballer.html.

Lorenzo Cain runs 20 mph while having his head up tracking a fly ball http://m.mlb.com/news/article/98270406/royals-outfielder-lorenzo-cain-zooms-around-camden-yards.

Blake
04-10-2015, 06:36 PM
baseball is not a sport, it's a game. It is hard, it is amazing (i guess), but it's not a sport. It's as much a sport as is playing golf or playing poker.

saying it's like poker is just retarded troll methodology.

But what's relevant there is that I'd rather watch poker than soccer

Raven
04-10-2015, 06:37 PM
What makes you think that a baseball player doesn't require endurance? Maybe not at the level of a soccer player but then again a soccer player doesn't have the AT marathon runner. That doesn't make a soccer player any less of an athlete. Also, if you've ever played you would know that position players are constantly moving during live play. So let's not act like they're sitting on lawn chairs while the game is going on. Let's also not forget that even though soccer players play 90 minute matches they play maybe once or twice a week, while baseball players may end up playing 6-7 games a week. If you don't think requires endurance, then you've never really played any kind of competitive sport your entire life.

you are actually proving your point wrong by making examples. How is it possible to stay fat while palying 6-7 games a week? put a defensive tackle playing as much football as a baseball player does, and let's see if he manages to stay fat.

midnightpulp
04-10-2015, 06:38 PM
Also cherry picking DH's and relievers is a bit disingenuous since those positions don't really require much athleticism. It's like posting this pic of Eli Manning and saying, "lol football athletes."

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/9/5/17/enhanced-buzz-9496-1378415386-6.jpg

When the fact of the matter is that players like Eli are a rarer commodity in the NFL than "athletic" players.

spurraider21
04-10-2015, 06:47 PM
I'll say again, baseball is extremely difficult because you can't mask a poor skillset with freakish athleticism, like you can in the NBA and NFL.
nobody said its easy. just saying it involves less athleticism. a QB is 1/22 starters. a DH is 1/9

FkLA
04-10-2015, 06:51 PM
Another example.

The world's fastest soccer player reaches speeds up to 20 mph (and I think this is on a dead sprint without the ball) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2662904/Darijo-Srna-makes-Arjen-Robben-look-slow-records-33km-h-sprint-worlds-fastest-footballer.html.

Lorenzo Cain runs 20 mph while having his head up tracking a fly ball http://m.mlb.com/news/article/98270406/royals-outfielder-lorenzo-cain-zooms-around-camden-yards.

It's a shame that that type of athleticism isn't being used in a real sport. In beisbol he does that what a handful of times per game, for little 5 second bursts?

Nobody is saying there aren't good athletes in beisbol. We're talking about the game itself. These world class athletes are stationary or sitting like 98% of the time bc beisbol doesn't demand anymore from them. No other real sport comes close to demanding so little from it's players.

midnightpulp
04-10-2015, 06:52 PM
And baseball certainly requires endurance. I don't know why people have this retarded and oversimplified idea that endurance only equals "running around keeping your heart rate up."

While not all positions in baseball require physical endurance, the catcher and starting pitcher positions sure do. Especially pitching, as we see how the job claims pitcher after pitcher every year sending them into surgery. And as someone who was a pitcher, I'll say that it's far easier to recover from typical aerobic/anaerobic activity required in basketball and soccer than it is after a few innings of pitching, which literally lights your arm on fire.

weebo
04-10-2015, 06:54 PM
you are actually proving your point wrong by making examples. How is it possible to stay fat while palying 6-7 games a week? put a defensive tackle playing as much football as a baseball player does, and let's see if he manages to stay fat.

How am I proving my point wrong when I'm talking about position players and AT? Does baseball have overweight athletes? Yes, usually pitchers. Does football? Does basketball? Does soccer? Yes, they all do. You're discounting every other position in baseball and lumping all baseball players into one category to fit your flawed argument.

weebo
04-10-2015, 06:55 PM
It's a shame that that type of athleticism isn't being used in a real sport. In beisbol he does that what a handful of times per game, for little 5 second bursts?

Nobody is saying there aren't good athletes in beisbol. We're talking about the game itself. These world class athletes are stationary or sitting like 98% of the time bc beisbol doesn't demand anymore from them. No other real sport comes close to demanding so little from it's players.

You know as much about baseball as you do about football. :lol

midnightpulp
04-10-2015, 07:02 PM
It's a shame that that type of athleticism isn't being used in a real sport. In beisbol he does that what a handful of times per game, for little 5 second bursts?

Nobody is saying there aren't good athletes in beisbol. We're talking about the game itself. These world class athletes are stationary or sitting like 98% of the time bc beisbol doesn't demand anymore from them. No other real sport comes close to demanding so little from it's players.

This is wrong, as I've pointed out. An MLB outfielder is the most overall demanding position in professional sports. You need to have an NBA tier vertical, NFL tier speed, wide receiver level route running instincts and hands, have a powerful and accurate arm, and be able to hit. Why do you need displays of "athleticism" every few seconds to keep you entertained? We already have basketball, football, and rugby to get your fix on that end. And maybe soccer, if you consider jogging around "athletic."

Also, you're getting an athletic "feat" every few seconds in baseball every time a pitcher throws a 90mph fastball, slider, or curve, with pinpoint accuracy. There's more people on Earth who can run real fast than who can do the former. To just consider running and jumping "athletic" is pretty narrow minded.

FkLA
04-10-2015, 07:03 PM
You know as much about baseball as you do about football. :lol

A besibol game lasts like 3-4 hours. How much time do you estimate one of those world class outfielders spends fielding+at bats+running bases? And by at bats I mean actually facing a pitch, not the 5 minute break in between each pitch.

Raven
04-10-2015, 07:05 PM
How am I proving my point wrong when I'm talking about position players and AT? Does baseball have overweight athletes? Yes, usually pitchers. Does football? Does basketball? Does soccer? Yes, they all do. You're discounting every other position in baseball and lumping all baseball players into one category to fit your flawed argument.

soccer doesn't, at least professional one.

manufan10
04-10-2015, 07:07 PM
you are actually proving your point wrong by making examples. How is it possible to stay fat while palying 6-7 games a week? put a defensive tackle playing as much football as a baseball player does, and let's see if he manages to stay fat.

How does Boris Diaw stay fat? How did Shaq stay fat? How did Patty Mills stay a little chubby? Eddy Curry? Big Baby? Marc Gasol? Raymond Felton? Carmelo Anthony? Zach Randolph?

Raven
04-10-2015, 07:07 PM
This is wrong, as I've pointed out. An MLB outfielder is the most overall demanding position in professional sports. You need to have an NBA tier vertical, NFL tier speed, wide receiver level route running instincts and hands, have a powerful and accurate arm, and be able to hit. Why do you need displays of "athleticism" every few seconds to keep you entertained? We already have basketball, football, and rugby to get your fix on that end. And maybe soccer, if you consider jogging around "athletic."

Also, you're getting an athletic "feat" every few seconds in baseball every time a pitcher throws a 90mph fastball, slider, or curve, with pinpoint accuracy. There's more people on Earth who can run real fast than who can do the former. To just consider running and jumping "athletic" is pretty narrow minded.

again you are going with the wrong mentality, it's not about who's athletic in the sport, but about who and why isn't.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
04-10-2015, 07:11 PM
Let me put it straight, I think baseball is boring until the playoffs. But you want to evaluate how more difficult baseball can be over basketball as a mental sport, the greatest bb of all time struck out his his 13 times in the majors and sucked donkey balls the two years he played. If you judged him by his performance with the sox, you would say he was a terrible athlete. But, yet on the bb court, he was the greatest ever.

case closed.

Raven
04-10-2015, 07:13 PM
How does Boris Diaw stay fat? How did Shaq stay fat? How did Patty Mills stay a little chubby? Eddy Curry? Big Baby? Marc Gasol? Raymond Felton? Carmelo Anthony? Zach Randolph?

well for starters, they are not really fat :lol they are not in perfect shape or are over the hill, they also don't play 6-7 games a week..

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1105/bos_g_shaq92_200.jpg

that doesn't look fat to me. you also have to account for natural athleticism and body structure. I mean baseball players are just plain fat, not adapted to their sport body..

Raven
04-10-2015, 07:14 PM
Let me put it straight, I think baseball is boring until the playoffs. But you want to evaluate how more difficult baseball can be over basketball as a mental sport, the greatest bb of all time struck out his his 13 times in the majors and sucked donkey balls the two years he played. If you judged him by his performance with the sox, you would say he was a terrible athlete. But, yet on the bb court, he was the greatest ever.

case closed.

i don't think anyone was talking about that.

midnightpulp
04-10-2015, 07:18 PM
again you are going with the wrong mentality, it's not about who's athletic in the sport, but about who and why isn't.

Everyone is athletic, even those fat players.

To possess the kind of hand-eye coordination and then have the actual strength to put that hand-eye coordination into action (i.e. swinging a bat) is an athletic feat. On the pitching side, it requires a great deal of ability to consistently throw accurately at 90 plus mph.

Running, jumping, getting heart rate up aren't the only examples of athleticism.

You might find baseball slow and boring, and I totally understand that line of argument, but to say a baseball player, at any position, isn't athletic is wrong.

You wouldn't say a shot-putter isn't athletic? And those guys are often fat, but they are definitely freak athletes in every sense of the word. Their sport just doesn't require this narrow minded definition of "athleticism" that we've locked ourselves into, thinking athleticism can only be activity that requires running and jumping.

Pelicans78
04-10-2015, 07:23 PM
well for starters, they are not really fat :lol they are not in perfect shape or are over the hill, they also don't play 6-7 games a week..

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1105/bos_g_shaq92_200.jpg

that doesn't look fat to me. you also have to account for natural athleticism and body structure. I mean baseball players are just plain fat, not adapted to their sport body..

That was Shaq in his early days.

Raven
04-10-2015, 07:25 PM
Everyone is athletic, even those fat players.

To possess the kind of hand-eye coordination and then have the actual strength to put that hand-eye coordination into action (i.e. swinging a bat) is an athletic feat. On the pitching side, it requires a great deal of ability to consistently throw accurately at 90 plus mph.

Running, jumping, getting heart rate up aren't the only examples of athleticism.

You might find baseball slow and boring, and I totally understand that line of argument, but to say a baseball player, at any position, isn't athletic is wrong.

You wouldn't say a shot-putter isn't athletic? And those guys are often fat, but they are definitely freak athletes in every sense of the word. Their sport just doesn't require this narrow minded definition of "athleticism" that we've locked ourselves into, thinking athleticism can only be activity that requires running and jumping.

that's because it's not a sport.. it's really that simple.

Raven
04-10-2015, 07:27 PM
That was Shaq in his early days.

http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2007/03/06/shaqx.jpg


still not fat.

midnightpulp
04-10-2015, 07:29 PM
that's because it's not a sport.. it's really that simple.

Shotputting is a sport by every classic definition of the word.

Pelicans78
04-10-2015, 07:29 PM
http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2007/03/06/shaqx.jpg


still not fat.

Its cause he got his ass in shape when he went to the Heat. He was motivated after the Lakers let him go and lost 30 pounds in the offseason.

Raven
04-10-2015, 07:33 PM
Its cause he got his ass in shape when he went to the Heat. He was motivated after the Lakers let him go and lost 30 pounds in the offseason.

well, if he was a pitcher, he wouldn't need to get himself in shape.

Pelicans78
04-10-2015, 07:36 PM
well, if he was a pitcher, he wouldn't need to get himself in shape.

He was still dominating when he out of shape for the Lakers.

weebo
04-10-2015, 07:37 PM
soccer doesn't, at least professional one.

http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/Ronaldo-fat.jpg

Strange Love
04-10-2015, 08:44 PM
^Yeah, its like I said, we can play that game all day long. Cherry picking a few baseball players who are fat or out of shape its not really winning an arguement.

I can google "fat soccer players" and get some hits. Good for a laugh but doesn't prove shit.

Venti Quattro
04-10-2015, 11:45 PM
:lmao Beisbol

FuzzyLumpkins
04-11-2015, 12:06 AM
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/PJ-BJ077_SP_SKI_DV_20120815174023.jpg

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/PJ-BK010_FATJER_P_20121003001607.jpg

lefty20
04-11-2015, 12:53 AM
Most ppl here would piss their pants when forced to face a 95+ mph flamethrower, tbh. Prince may be a fatboy, but he's a fatboy w/ quick hands(quicker than all here) and great hand-eye coordination (also better than all here). Just the facts...

DAF86
04-11-2015, 01:29 AM
Let me put it straight, I think baseball is boring until the playoffs. But you want to evaluate how more difficult baseball can be over basketball as a mental sport, the greatest bb of all time struck out his his 13 times in the majors and sucked donkey balls the two years he played. If you judged him by his performance with the sox, you would say he was a terrible athlete. But, yet on the bb court, he was the greatest ever.

case closed.

:lol That's such a retarded argument. The greatest Baseball player of all-time wouldn't even come close to playing professional basketball.

"case closed" :lmao

DAF86
04-11-2015, 01:33 AM
http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/Ronaldo-fat.jpg

That's not Ronaldo in his professional days. That's like from 6 months ago. Don't cheat son. :lol

HI-FI
04-11-2015, 01:39 AM
damn Ronaldo got fkin fat.

lefty
04-11-2015, 01:40 AM
That's not Ronaldo in his professional days. That's like from 6 months ago. Don't cheat son. :lol
soccer hater fail :lol

lefty
04-11-2015, 01:42 AM
:lol Male Pregnancy

And what level is this? Any fat ass could pick any ball up in a random rec league.
You just described MLB

Banzai
04-11-2015, 01:47 AM
bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh http://memecrunch.com/meme/PRZC/john-wall-bruh/image.png

Strange Love
04-11-2015, 02:28 AM
That's not Ronaldo in his professional days. That's like from 6 months ago. Don't cheat son. :lol

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01365/11_1365068a.jpg

Is that photoshop, cuz if not, that's still a fat, professional soccer player, six months ago or not.

ViceCity86
04-11-2015, 02:34 AM
Great thread :tu

lefty
04-11-2015, 02:37 AM
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01365/11_1365068a.jpg

Is that photoshop, cuz if not, that's still a fat, professional soccer player, six months ago or not.

Ronaldo is an exception though, and that was towards the end of a career plagued by knee injuries

Baseball fathletes are plenty :lol

weebo
04-11-2015, 08:58 AM
That's not Ronaldo in his professional days. That's like from 6 months ago. Don't cheat son. :lol

Ronaldo always had weight issues. In Brazil, he was always being trashed by the media for being fat. :lol

Blake
04-11-2015, 10:11 AM
Ronaldo is an exception though, and that was towards the end of a career plagued by knee injuries

Baseball fathletes are plenty :lol

So Ronaldo got rich, he got fat.

hmmm

unleashbaynes
04-11-2015, 10:13 AM
Baseball is boring.

That said, have any of you ever met a pro ball player? They are fucking huge. Guy's forearms were the size of my legs put together.

DAF86
04-11-2015, 01:52 PM
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01365/11_1365068a.jpg

Is that photoshop, cuz if not, that's still a fat, professional soccer player, six months ago or not.

That's a photo from a former professional player that retired about 10 years ago.

DAF86
04-11-2015, 01:59 PM
Ronaldo always had weight issues. In Brazil, he was always being trashed by the media for being fat. :lol

Yeah, "fat" for proffessional footballers standards, not fat for baseball players.

Fat like this:

http://media.tinmoi.vn/2010/08/17/1282039251_12.jpg

Strange Love
04-11-2015, 04:29 PM
Fat is fat. :lol

No spinning that one.

DAF86
04-11-2015, 04:33 PM
Fat is fat. :lol

No spinning that one.

Well, that isn't really fat, tbh.

Raven
04-11-2015, 05:12 PM
ronaldo actually has a documented illness that made him get fatter, altough it's also well documented that he was never training seriously and he used to come to training high and still drunk. Funny thing, in his prime, he was the absolutely fastest guy on the field and was absolutely impossible to guard. :lol

AlexJones
04-11-2015, 05:35 PM
Most ppl here would piss their pants when forced to face a 95+ mph flamethrower, tbh. Prince may be a fatboy, but he's a fatboy w/ quick hands(quicker than all here) and great hand-eye coordination (also better than all here). Just the facts...

Lefty

resistanze
04-11-2015, 05:38 PM
I'm sure driving in a circle at 200mph for 6 hours is difficult. It doesn't make NASCAR drivers athletes.

Strange Love
04-11-2015, 06:05 PM
I'm sure driving in a circle at 200mph for 6 hours is difficult. It doesn't make NASCAR drivers athletes.

They also never have to deal with tremendous G-forces for 6 straight hours, either.


http://youtu.be/ZkKKMI9laIU


http://youtu.be/JrzSqZZ80h8

Aztecfan03
04-11-2015, 07:04 PM
http://www.ringof5.com/userdata/fun_rings/40_NDQ1salvador-cabanas_display_image.jpg

redzero
04-11-2015, 10:29 PM
I have been to a few MLB games, and baseball has to be the most boring sport on the planet. At least in soccer, there is movement happening, even though that movement doesn't mean much for the most part. Everybody is bored at a baseball game, because there is nothing going on most of the time.

Strange Love
04-11-2015, 10:36 PM
I have been to a few MLB games, and baseball has to be the most boring sport on the planet. At least in soccer, there is movement happening, even though that movement doesn't mean much for the most part. Everybody is bored at a baseball game, because there is nothing going on most of the time.

And in soccer, things happen? Like games ending in 0-O ties?

Riveting shit.

redzero
04-11-2015, 10:47 PM
At least in soccer, there is movement happening, even though that movement doesn't mean much for the most part.

Don't get me wrong--soccer is boring as fuck as well. Baseball is just more boring. ?

Thread
04-11-2015, 10:50 PM
Don't get me wrong--soccer is boring as fuck as well. Baseball is just more boring. ?

I ain't seen you down here in a coon's age. Don't be startin' any shit either.

Venti Quattro
04-11-2015, 11:01 PM
Don't get me wrong--soccer is boring as fuck as well. Baseball is just more boring. ?

You have to endure 3 hours just to see batters and pitchers produce one run scored.

In football it's just 90 minutes and movement in football is not always non-meaningful. Lateral movement of the ball is what's non-meaningful, Otherwise, it's a constant chase for a pass or a moment of brilliance that will lead to a goal or an assist.

On defense, it's a game of smarts to make sure that your opponent does not have much room to operate in the final third of the pitch.

Pelicans78
04-11-2015, 11:22 PM
Royals are badass and as exciting as any professional sports team. Can watch them play any day of the week. I enjoy watching them more than the Pelicans who have a freakishly athletic top 5 player in the league.

King Emmanuel
04-12-2015, 09:09 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbbTC_UAAAoGXj.jpg:large

:lmao

~O~
04-12-2015, 11:03 PM
https://38.media.tumblr.com/d11dfd0cd932e88b6e35cef5f88e694f/tumblr_nhalfuLhPR1rp0vkjo1_500.gif
lol

lefty
04-12-2015, 11:06 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbbTC_UAAAoGXj.jpg:large

:lmao

Clipper Nation
AlexJones
DMC

~O~
04-12-2015, 11:10 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbbTC_UAAAoGXj.jpg:large

:lmao


That can't be real...

DMC
04-12-2015, 11:10 PM
Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
AlexJones (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43137)
DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665)
I don't watch baseball.

Stupid refugee.

lefty
04-12-2015, 11:11 PM
I don't watch baseball.

Stupid refugee.

:lol

spurraider21
04-12-2015, 11:22 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbbTC_UAAAoGXj.jpg:large

:lmao
boom

5% probably just the small demographic of 70+ year olds that actually knew how to use a computer to vote

Clipper Nation
04-12-2015, 11:29 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbbTC_UAAAoGXj.jpg:large

:lmao
Playoff hockey :worthy:

lefty
04-12-2015, 11:35 PM
Playoff hockey :worthy:

spurraider21
04-12-2015, 11:40 PM
Playoff hockey :worthy:
playoff hockey is great... and i still contend that hockey is the best sport to attend live

AlexJones
04-14-2015, 04:35 PM
interesting read tbh

http://deadspin.com/that-espn-poll-claiming-mls-is-as-popular-with-kids-as-1539533010



The substance of the ESPN report was in a chart from Luker on Trends, the firm that runs the ESPN Sports Poll under a licensing arrangement. It shows that 17.98 percent of children from the ages of 12 to 17 are "avid" fans of MLS, as opposed to 18.04 percent who are avid fans of MLB.

According to Childstats.gov (http://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/tables/pop1.asp), there are around 25 million children aged 12 to 17 in the United States. This would mean that, per the poll's findings, there are about 4.5 million American teenagers who are avid MLS fans.In 2013, just more than 6 million spectators in total (http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2013/10/31/5047982/mls-attendance-2013-report) attended MLS games. Average viewership for games on ESPN—presumably the most-watched—was (http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/11/04/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/MLS.aspx)around (http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/11/04/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/MLS.aspx?app_data=%7B%22pi%22%3A%2238048_138383343 8_1855108452%22%2C%22pt%22%3A%22twitter%22%7D) 220,000, and total viewership (http://fansided.com/2013/12/10/tv-ratings-mls-cup-final-show-least-watched-mls-history/#!y0ZgC)for the MLS Cup Final on English- and Spanish-language broadcasts was around 1 million.
In other words, finger math would suggest that a majority of these alleged avid teenage MLS fans aren't actually watching or attending MLS games. And in fact that's true. According to Rich Luker of Luker on Trends, "Avid MLS fans between the ages of 12 and 17 are not watching much MLS on TV."

:lmao growth of the game
:lmao ESPN
:lmao liberal sport

apalisoc_9
04-14-2015, 05:24 PM
The reality is that Soccer is growing in popularity and the only reason why it's on odds right now with beisbol is because beisbol the next sports ahead..

When the kids of today grow up to be adults, I wouldn't be surprised if by that time soccer is ahead of fat sport.

It is what it is..Poverty sport is the prefered sport by many metrolpolitan white parents..

Malik Hairston
04-14-2015, 05:26 PM
interesting read tbh

http://deadspin.com/that-espn-poll-claiming-mls-is-as-popular-with-kids-as-1539533010




:lmao growth of the game
:lmao ESPN
:lmao liberal sport

I'm neutral on this subject, but as a baseball fan, what would you do to increase viewership among young fans, tbh? Just make games shorter?

Strange Love
04-14-2015, 05:29 PM
The reality is that Soccer is growing in popularity and the only reason why it's on odds right now with beisbol is because beisbol the next sports ahead..

When the kids of today grow up to be adults, I wouldn't be surprised if by that time soccer is ahead of fat sport.

It is what it is..Poverty sport is the prefered sport by many metrolpolitan white parents..

Their progress is minimal at best. It will take a big dive in Baseball for soccer to become even relevant in the US.

Kids here play in in their high school and maybe some in college but that phase quickly goes out the window the minute parents are not pushing them to play it.

Infinite_limit
04-14-2015, 05:30 PM
The reality is that Soccer is growing in popularity and the only reason why it's on odds right now with beisbol is because beisbol the next sports ahead..

When the kids of today grow up to be adults, I wouldn't be surprised if by that time soccer is ahead of fat sport.

It is what it is..Poverty sport is the prefered sport by many metrolpolitan white parents..
As the USA becomes less White, it's natural that baseball interest would start to slide. It is also viewed as the Rich White kids sport (in terms of the Big 4 - football, baseball, basketball). It's a clique.

I attended Padres/Giants over the weekend at Petco. The experience is more interesting that what is occurring on the field.

10 years ago Baseball was my favorite sport. Steady decline since. I've watched <10 total games in the past 3 years.

AlexJones
04-14-2015, 05:30 PM
The reality is that Soccer is growing in popularity and the only reason why it's on odds right now with beisbol is because beisbol the next sports ahead..

When the kids of today grow up to be adults, I wouldn't be surprised if by that time soccer is ahead of fat sport.

It is what it is..Poverty sport is the prefered sport by many metrolpolitan white parents..

:lol baseball is the #2 sport in America, don't kid yourselves. Maybe not in 10 years but as of right now MLB still makes more money than the NBA domestically. Soccer is still trailing hockey

AlexJones
04-14-2015, 05:33 PM
I'm neutral on this subject, but as a baseball fan, what would you do to increase viewership among young fans, tbh? Just make games shorter?

imo the game needs more offense: shrink the strike zone, allow PEDs, whatever. As a kid I never had a problem with long games as long as there were tons of hits

I wouldn't mind if games go 7 innings too but there's no way the MLBPA would agree to it

BatManu20
04-14-2015, 06:17 PM
How could you leave out the fattest baseball player who ever lived, tbh.


http://cdn.ipernity.com/125/86/22/14168622.4012f4dd.640.jpg?r2


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7223/7177383640_471a3fc741_o.jpg

Raven
04-14-2015, 07:15 PM
normal football has never been so boring, don't know what is usa getting excited about..

DAF86
04-14-2015, 07:23 PM
interesting read tbh

http://deadspin.com/that-espn-poll-claiming-mls-is-as-popular-with-kids-as-1539533010


:lmao growth of the game
:lmao ESPN
:lmao liberal sport

lol MLS. Of course nobody watches that shit. Watching the MLS in terms of overall level would be the equivalent of watching something worse than the D-League. Champions League is where's is at.

AlexJones
04-14-2015, 08:06 PM
http://worldsoccertalk.com/2014/05/30/1-9-million-viewers-watch-2014-uefa-champions-league-final-on-fox/

Champions league final US viewership: 1.9 million


http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2014/10/30/game-7-of-world-series-a-tv-ratings-hit-for-fox-keeps-2014-from-lowest-watched/

World Series game 7 viewership: 23.5 million

PERIOD

Clipper Nation
04-14-2015, 08:12 PM
As the USA becomes less White, it's natural that baseball interest would start to slide. It is also viewed as the Rich White kids sport (in terms of the Big 4 - football, baseball, basketball). It's a clique.
Are you retarded? Baseball is full of players from Latin America and Asia.

Thread
04-14-2015, 08:15 PM
Are you retarded? Baseball is full of players from Latin America and Asia.

Are you going to come in here close to Cubby tonite & handle this, or, not?

Clipper Nation
04-14-2015, 08:15 PM
lol MLS. Of course nobody watches that shit. Watching the MLS in terms of overall level would be the equivalent of watching something worse than the D-League. Champions League is where's is at.
How can povertyball lovers claim that their "sport" is growing if our league still sucks that badly?

Infinite_limit
04-14-2015, 08:20 PM
Are you retarded? Baseball is full of players from Latin America and Asia.
- Those are immigrants, not first or second generation Americans. Meaning in the USA it's a White sport

- How many Mexicans, Indians (Asia), Chinese or Filipinos are playing?

DAF86
04-14-2015, 09:36 PM
How can povertyball lovers claim that their "sport" is growing if our league still sucks that badly?

I haven't claimed shit 'cause I don't know shit, tbh. But from what I've heard some Champions League games have higher ratings than MLB ones.

LnGrrrR
04-15-2015, 01:26 AM
EL GUAPO

sandman
04-15-2015, 07:39 AM
Great chart that shows, similar to dog breeding, professional athletes are physically specialized according to their sport:

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/53fb2fa969bedd824042b1af-1738-826/athlete-size-chart.png

But LOL that MLS players are shorter/skinnier by far than any other North American professional sport. Not saying they are not "athletes", but they are marathoners in cleats compared to the size of the other four pro leagues.

whitemamba
05-07-2015, 12:34 PM
http://rotoscouting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pablo-sandoval.jpg
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/10e1c087cb97408ca09ccfaf24a35ab37f4be95a/c=29-0-2589-1925&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2013/11/20//1384999238000-2013-11-20-prince.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/David_Ortiz.JPG
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2012/baseball/mlb/08/22/Bartolo-Colon-positive-testosterone.ap/Bartolo-Colon.jpg
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/delmon-young-42712.jpg
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1242039/COKE_1.jpg
http://images.picturesdepot.com/photo/i/image_of_fat_baseball_players-60163.jpg
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2012/04/07/08242008_mp24joba1__1333819741_6219.jpg
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2005/09/05/4M7czUkL.jpg
http://www.gq.com/images/sports/2010/05/fat-baseball-players/rich-garces.jpghttp://wicketmaiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/baseball2.jpg
http://ericcressey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/bartolo-colon-with-dominican-team.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1zQYusS2v9bavsTxEwd8-cnFLA84YqENZNcwUTDfCKpfQDgcJzAhttp://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/bigbadbobby1.jpghttp://bigjoeonthego.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/fatsoftball1.jpghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100906162644/armchair-new/images/7/76/Ruthhattip.jpeg

Clipper Nation

BatManu20
05-30-2015, 01:12 PM
300 lb pitcher.

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/300-pound-college-pitcher-takes-internet-by-storm-1707895149

Clipper Nation
05-30-2015, 01:58 PM
300 lb pitcher.

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/300-pound-college-pitcher-takes-internet-by-storm-1707895149
Still more athletic than any third-world kickball player. Not only is he a pitcher (which is impressive enough), he also played football and wrestled in high school:

http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/05/former_williams_valley_pitcher.html