Is Atlanta the most disrespected 60-win team in NBA history?

[Uriel]

They have the 2nd best overall record in the NBA, yet aren't even mentioned as a serious contender to win the championship. :lol

[Mel_13]

Winning 60 games doesn't necessarily make you a serious contender. The 2011 Spurs come to mind as a recent example.

[ambchang]

Despite their recent mediocrity, I'd still take them to make the finals.

The east is just that bad.

[Arcadian]

Pretty sure the Cavs are making the finals.

[Infinite_limit]

I've caught 0 Hawks games this season

START THE PLAYOFFS ALREADY!

[RD2191]

I don't trust their defense. Reminds me of the 2011 Spurs.

[Blake]

Coach bud employing under the radar spur tactics

[313]

I don't trust their defense. Reminds me of the 2011 Spurs.

They're a top 10 defensivive team

[313]

Comparing good teams to the 2011 Spurs or 2007 mavs is the cliché way of saying "they have a good record but I'm going to compare them to the other #1 seed that got upset because I know nothing about them"

[RD2191]

They're a top 10 defensivive team
The Hawks? Fuck me. You sure?:lol

[313]

The Hawks? Fuck me. You sure?:lol

Yeah :lol I posted the stats somewhere on here I'll try to find it again

[313]

The Hawks? Fuck me. You sure?:lol


Take a look at these stats guys

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/team/atlanta-hawks/stats

You don't fluke elite defense. They're offense isn't too shabby either(#8 in ppg)

I don't see the Cavs winning more than two games, if that


This was before thabo broke his leg ofc

[soxxx]

Winning 60 games doesn't necessarily make you a serious contender. The 2011 Spurs come to mind as a recent example.
they remind me of that spurs team.

[KaiRMD1]

They are, in actuality, spurs east. This proves it

[DMC]

No superstars means no media coverage. It doesn't mean they aren't threats. Competition has absolutely zero to do with marketability. Fans are star watchers first and foremost.

[ambchang]

I still don't trust the Cavs, outside of Lebron, has the defensive discipline and intelligence to consistently lock down on their man in a seven game series and not get exposed, especially against a movement offense like the Hawks.

[Malik Hairston]

I would be pretty surprised if they don't win the East, tbh..

I'll put some money on it prior to the playoffs, too..

[Raven]

They're a top 10 defensivive team

that's bad. Contenders are top 5 defensive teams.

[Malik Hairston]

that's bad. Contenders are top 5 defensive teams.

They have the 5th ranked D in the NBA IIRC..

[Raven]

They have the 5th ranked D in the NBA IIRC..

good for them. I actually think their team is awesome and i love almost all their players, still not sure i would bet against lebron though..

[Malik Hairston]

Cavs will be favored, but as we saw last year and in 2009, Lebron can still go for 30+ per game and his team can still lose..

I just like their system vs. the Cavs ISO-oriented shit..even after Mozgov, Cleveland has still been just the 13th ranked D in the NBA, too, they don't get stops when they need them..their bench is also atrocious..

[Raven]

don't get me started on that tbh :lol love, irving, jrsmith :lol some of my most despised players ever.. lebron is pretty much all they have there, and obviously it's clear that once again the winner will come from the west.

[Sean Cagney]

Pretty sure the Cavs are making the finals.

I agree fully.

[Thread]

Pretty sure the Cavs are making the finals.


I agree fully.

I really need Amy to come back, bonnet in hand, that big fuckin' tail tucked. That alone would throw old hussy Timmy into another tailspin. Damn, I ain't heard hide nor hair from her since the judge went out there for the signing ceremony.

[BatManu20]

Probably, but they're not coming out of the East, so it's okay, tbh.

[DarrinS]

See strength of schedule

[Malik Hairston]

See strength of schedule

They are 22-8 vs. the West..

[cd021]

Apparently some of the reason if their pt differential. It would be the lowest of any 60 win team ever. Sounds silly but its usually a good indicator of success. They should get the ECF. That alone is an success considering this team was in rebuilding/retooling mode two seasons ago. They could have a lottery pick and should have enough cash to add another big man in FA. Brandon Wright would be a nice add for next season.

[Venti Quattro]

Pretty sure the Cavs are making the finals.

Yup

[HemisfairArena]

Cavs aren't making the Finals,,,c'mon guys its not rocket science. That Cavs team has no chemistry. If Lebron folds like he has in the past when discouraged in the Eastern playoffs,,,they are done.

[Sean Cagney]

I really need Amy to come back, bonnet in hand, that big fuckin' tail tucked. That alone would throw old hussy Timmy into another tailspin. Damn, I ain't heard hide nor hair from her since the judge went out there for the signing ceremony.

What the fuck is wrong with you? I have no clue how you came up with this after us saying Cavs will make the finals.
Cavs aren't making the Finals,,,c'mon guys its not rocket science. That Cavs team has no chemistry. If Lebron folds like he has in the past when discouraged in the Eastern playoffs,,,they are done.

I just don't think the Hawks are that scary of a team, sorry. Cavs might not be great but they play out East and honestly I don't see them losing to the Hawks team.

[lefty]

The Hawks are shit tbh :lol

[DMC]

that's bad. Contenders are top 5 defensive teams.
Teams in the top 5 are also in the top 10. If they were 6th they''d be in the top 6.

[DMC]

The Hawks are shit tbh :lol
Did you find that pallet of rice we air dropped to your village today?

[lefty]

Did you find that pallet of rice we air dropped to your village today?

U like the Hawks?

:lol don't be mad

:lol Enrique
:lol beisbol

[DMC]

U like the Hawks?

:lol don't be mad

:lol Enrique
:lol beisbol

You've not watched a single game, right?

:lol mudball
:lol Shantyball
:lol Fallingstadiumball
:lol RedCrossball
:lol Missionaryball
:lol Slaveball

[lefty]

You've not watched a single game, right?

:lol mudball
:lol Shantyball
:lol Fallingstadiumball
:lol RedCrossball
:lol Missionaryball
:lol Slaveball
At least they can move.

:lol beisbol
:lol standingball
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:lol fatball
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[HemisfairArena]

What the fuck is wrong with you? I have no clue how you came up with this after us saying Cavs will make the finals.

I just don't think the Hawks are that scary of a team, sorry. Cavs might not be great but they play out East and honestly I don't see them losing to the Hawks team.

Are you watching the games, kid? What did I say,,,,and the Cav machine continues to get crushed.,,,how much did they lose by tonight?

[Sean Cagney]

Are you watching the games, kid? What did I say,,,,and the Cav machine continues to get crushed.,,,how much did they lose by tonight?
Yes I watch games. Who did the Cavs play tonight in the game? Did they rest people? I don't think the Hawks are going to the finals, sorry thats my opinion and I don't agree with you on there.

If the Hawks make the finals I will be the first to admit I am wrong and they were legit, but I don't see them as scary and see them getting knocked off. Are they a good team no doubt, are they great? What have they done in the playoffs? Time will tell but they are unproven.

BTW Irving and Lebron out this game or did you even pay attention and just look at the score? How can you judge a team losing a game bad by resting starters?

[100%duncan]

Yes I watch games. Who did the Cavs play tonight in the game? Did they rest people? I don't think the Hawks are going to the finals, sorry thats my opinion and I don't agree with you on there.

If the Hawks make the finals I will be the first to admit I am wrong and they were legit, but I don't see them as scary and see them getting knocked off. Are they a good team no doubt, are they great? What have they done in the playoffs? Time will tell but they are unproven.

BTW Irving and Lebron out this game or did you even pay attention and just look at the score? How can you judge a team losing a game bad by resting starters?

cavs are also unproven in he playoffs

[Sean Cagney]

cavs are also unproven in he playoffs

True, but Lebron is not unproven in the playoffs as he has been there almost every year. They have a guy who can take over a game, Hawks? I am not saying they will not win or make the finals but when is the last time they were a legit competitor in the playoffs? This year they came a long way and have a shot I agree but until they actually make it I don't see it. It just seems so out there to thin of the Hawks in the finals, so hard to grasp.

BTW whoever comes out of the West is taking it, that we all can agree on there. I don't think the East has a shot.

[heyheymymy]

Interesting that I feel the same way yet no one has given a reason that wasn't shot down with stats. I guess the Cavs just feel more savvy in the post season.

[jdiggy0424]

I don't think the Hawks aren't a good team, I just feel that during the NBA season, you have little time to prepare for a specific team due to scheduling. This is Coach Bud's 1st year coaching and the 1st year the Hawks have implemented their new offensive scheme in the East. You take a guy like Coach Bud who has spent decades under Pop's wing, put him in a watered down shit conference aka the East, and combine that with horrid scheduling, and you'll win games in the regular season.

To the Hawks credit it takes the right players to make the system work. Passing bigs (Horford/Millsap), A PG that loves to drive and can run the Pick & Roll effectively (Teague), a deadly 3 point shooter (Korver), a defensive guy that can hit the 3 (Carroll), etc.

But in a 7 game series against a defensively disciplined team (Bulls) or a team with a game-changing been there done that superstar (Cavs), I can't see the Hawks winning.

Then again this is all pure speculation. If Bud brings this team to the ECF, I think its a successful season for the Hawks, regardless of the outcome.

[Chinook]

I don't think the Hawks aren't a good team, I just feel that during the NBA season, you have little time to prepare for a specific team due to scheduling. This is Coach Bud's 1st year coaching and the 1st year the Hawks have implemented their new offensive scheme in the East. You take a guy like Coach Bud who has spent decades under Pop's wing, put him in a watered down shit conference aka the East, and combine that with horrid scheduling, and you'll win games in the regular season.

To the Hawks credit it takes the right players to make the system work. Passing bigs (Horford/Millsap), A PG that loves to drive and can run the Pick & Roll effectively (Teague), a deadly 3 point shooter (Korver), a defensive guy that can hit the 3 (Carroll), etc.

But in a 7 game series against a defensively disciplined team (Bulls) or a team with a game-changing been there done that superstar (Cavs), I can't see the Hawks winning.

Then again this is all pure speculation. If Bud brings this team to the ECF, I think its a successful season for the Hawks, regardless of the outcome.

It's Bud's second year. Last year, his Hawks took Indiana to seven games, despite the Pacers being a defensively disciplined team with an experienced superstar.

I agree they don't have the talent to beat the Cavs unless Cleveland is already imploding, but they certainly would be a team like the Bulls.

[Thread]

Can ya imagine Media during a Hawks/Spurs Finals?

I'd do the Dutch.

[hater]

I don't think even the NYPD respects them tbh

[100%duncan]

Can ya imagine Media during a Hawks/Spurs Finals?

I'd do the Dutch.

It doesnt matter, you're gone one way or another asshole.

[Venti Quattro]

I still don't trust the Cavs, outside of Lebron, has the defensive discipline and intelligence to consistently lock down on their man in a seven game series and not get exposed, especially against a movement offense like the Hawks.

Well the Hawks are about to get swept, aren't they? :lol

[ambchang]

Well the Hawks are about to get swept, aren't they? :lol

:lol

[lefty]

DMC :lmao

[DMC]

Lefty.. thinking I watch the Hawks. I haven't even watched a single Eastern playoff game, not one.

[Thread]

It doesnt matter, you're gone one way or another asshole.

This was before % & I buried the proverbial hatchet.

Now? We're like Amy & Tim. I hide his homosexual side and buy a lot of lingerie.