Game Thread: Grizzles at Clippers 10 P.M. Est (9:00 CST, 5:00 Riga Time)

[cjw]

Am I missing something?

San Antonio has the tiebreaker between three teams..

Why is the spurs 5th?

Memphis has tiebreaker over Spurs. Houston is technically half a game behind (3 games left to play). Should Houston win another game it becomes three way tie = Spurs in second.

[Clipper Nation]

Yeah you guys got so many calls

Yeah, like that Koufos call, or that bogus offensive foul on Blake. Soooooo many calls.

[ElNono]

According to NBA.com, Memphis has a better head to head record against us and Clippers have a better conference record.

I suspect we would overtake Memphis AND Clippers if we're leading the division.

[BatManu20]

Memphis still the 2 seed until we beat Pheonix tomorrow

Hoping the Suns have mailed it in already. Don't want the game to be close and have some bullshit happen to us at the end.

[apalisoc_9]

Memphis has tiebreaker over Spurs. Houston is technically half a game behind (3 games left to play). Should Houston win another game it becomes three way tie = Spurs in second.

oh make sense...

I thought houston have won 54 games. lol

:lol

[RD2191]

Oh I get it..

I missed an Important part. LA is not a southwest division team so it's just all based on the winning percentage of the four teams.

We need Memphis to loss tom again to get that 2nd seed.
Are you serious? I thought you said we had the tiebreaker in a 3 way tie? If grizz spurs rockets win out don't we win the division?

[Jimmy Cobaine]

We need Houston to win three in a row fuck

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I dunno, but I hope it stays like that, tbh:lol..

I'd take that.

[apalisoc_9]

Are you serious? I thought you said we had the tiebreaker in a 3 way tie? If grizz spurs rockets win out don't we win the division?

it's all good rob..

It turns out Houston has played one less game so they are 0.5 games away from everyone else..Houston needs to have the same record.

[siraulo23]

if grizz rockets spurs win out, spurs remain 5th i think

[ducks]

Mem might and most likely lose again to gasol is hurt and no conley

[Malik Hairston]

Spurs at 5 would be the best scenario, but I doubt it happens..

Have to hope the Rockets lose to NO, I think..

[ducks]

if grizz rockets spurs win out, spurs remain 5th i think

Three way tie according to Jeff McDonald Spurs iwn tiebreaker

[Mugen]

if grizz rockets spurs win out, spurs remain 5th i think

In that scenario, I believe the Spurs win the division and take the 2nd seed.

[apalisoc_9]

if grizz rockets spurs win out, spurs remain 5th i think

no we get 2nd. HOuston is just half a game of everyone else..

it doesn't matter though.

GSW will win tom.

[TXstbobcat]

So we just need the Spurs to win the last 2 games and a Grizzlies loss to get the 2 seed??????

[ducks]

Spurs' path to No. 2 seed: Win out, Memphis loses 2 of final 3 OR, win out, Memphis loses 1 of final 3, Rockets don't lose again.

That was posted by Jeff last night

[siraulo23]

How? memphis has tiebreaker over spurs? conference record?

[Beaverfuzz]

if grizz rockets spurs win out, spurs remain 5th i think

Nope, Spurs should be second. Problem is Houston has played one less game right now so that's why the Spurs are #5.

[Grit and Grind]

no we get 2nd. HOuston is just half a game of everyone else..

it doesn't matter though.

GSW will win tom.
Will the Warriors be resting?

[siraulo23]

Nope, Spurs should be second. Problem is Houston has played one less game right now so that's why the Spurs are #5.

whats the tiebreaker condition for a three way tie in a divison?

[BatManu20]

It's actually pretty insane that 4 different seedings are coming down to the final game of the season like this. And annoying, tbh.

[Grit and Grind]

whats the tiebreaker condition for a three way tie in a divison?

You guys get the SW division then but if it's just a two way tie between either SAS or HOU we win the division

[BatManu20]

Spurs' path to No. 2 seed: Win out, Memphis loses 2 of final 3 OR, win out, Memphis loses 1 of final 3, Rockets don't lose again.

That was posted by Jeff last night

If the Rockets can beat the Pelicans tomorrow, scenario two seems more likely.

[Beaverfuzz]

Whatever the case, it would be extremely unlikely that the Spurs finish in 6th, so they will have home court in the first round at the very least.

I say bring on the Blazers if it happens, otherwise bring on the Mavs. 2nd or 5th IMO.

[Mugen]

I'm almost a 100% sure the Warriors go all out against the Grizzlies. I don't think they want any part of the Spurs in that 5 seed tbh.

[Grit and Grind]

I'm almost a 100% sure the Warriors go all out against the Grizzlies. I don't think they want any part of the Spurs in that 5 seed tbh.
I don't think they do that because that's to hypothetical, we have no clue what will be the seeding. I think for most teams it's just to win out

[ElNono]

We'll get the #2 seed if we win out, regardless of what happens with Houston, Memphis or Clippers.

EDIT: Incorrect, we get the #2 seed on a 3 way tie or if Memphis drops a game and we win out.

[siraulo23]

I still dont get how memphis wins a 3 way tie tbh

assuming spurs grizz rockets win out, memphis wins tiebreak over spurs, spurs win tiebreaker over houston , houston over grizz (whats grizz rocketts h-h)?

[Malik Hairston]

My 2 ideal scenarios:

- Grizzlies lose to Warriors, beat Pacers
- Spurs win out
- Rockets win out
- Clippers lose 1 game

2. Spurs
3. Rockets
4. Blazers
5. Clippers
6. Grizzlies

or

- Grizzlies beat Warriors and Pacers
- Clippers win vs. Denver and Phoenix
- Rockets lose to NO
- Spurs win out

That would lead to:

2. Grizzlies
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Spurs
6. Rockets

What will probably happen:

- Grizzlies lose to Warriors, beat Pacers
- Spurs win out
- Clippers win out-
- Rockets win out

2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Rockets
6. Grizzlies

[Malik Hairston]

I still dont get how memphis wins a 3 way tie tbh

assuming spurs grizz rockets win out, memphis wins tiebreak over spurs, spurs win tiebreaker over houston , houston over grizz (whats grizz rocketts h-h)?

Spurs win a 3-way tie due to combined record against each other

[HI-FI]

We'll get the #2 seed if we win out, regardless of what happens with Houston, Memphis or Clippers.
you think it's worth the push or better to coast in, take the 5?

[ElNono]

you think it's worth the push or better to coast in, take the 5?

Might aswell wrap up the season in style, tbh... especially if Memphis loses tomorrow...

[siraulo23]

Spurs win a 3-way tie due to combined record against each other

Thanks

[Spurs 4 The Win]

if grizz rockets spurs win out, spurs remain 5th i think

wrong, we would be the 2

[Mikeanaro]

Come on just give Spurs the 2nd seed, Lebron and his shitty Cavs are 2nd IS NOT FAIRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

[024]

Definitely want the Clippers in the 5 seed so they face the Warriors in the 2nd round. Clippers are probably the third best team in the West and won't be a complete steam roll for the Warriors.

[Malik Hairston]

Definitely want the Clippers in the 5 seed so they face the Warriors in the 2nd round. Clippers are probably the third best team in the West and won't be a complete steam roll for the Warriors.

Same, but they probably need to lose a game, which is unlikely..

[Horry Hipcheck]

Definitely want the Clippers in the 5 seed so they face the Warriors in the 2nd round. Clippers are probably the third best team in the West and won't be a complete steam roll for the Warriors.

I'd much rather the Clips have a shot at the Warriors in the semis than Houston or Memphis, but LA's basically a lock at 3rd unless he SW division winner finishes with a worse record than they will. It's highly likely they'll win out and finish with 56 wins, the Spurs (best case scenario) would finish 2nd by virtue of winning their division, and that leaves the Clips, Rockets, and Grizzlies in some manner of a tie (most likely). Memphis could easily, and probably will, lose to Golden State, finishing with at best 55 wins. If Houston then wins out, also finishing with 56 wins, they finish ahead of Memphis but behind LA by virtue of LA having a better conference record.

Or, let's say Memphis beats Golden State and wins out, finishing with 56 wins, LA finishes with 56 wins, the Spurs and Rockets both finish with 56 wins. Spurs get second by winning the division, leaving LA, Memphis, and Houston in a three way tie. First tie breaker is head to head in all games, where all three teams are 4-4 against each other. Next tie breaker is division records, but Houston and Memphis aren't in LA's division, so they go to the third tiebreaker, which is conference record. LA finally wins the tiebreak, hypothetically finishing with a 37-15 conference record to Memphis' best-case 36-16 conference record.

LA can only finish second if the Spurs, Grizz, and Rockets all finish with no fewer than 27 losses apiece. Anybody in the SW division with an identical record to the Clips will finish second ahead of them by virtue of being a division winner.

The only way they finish fifth is to lose another game, and have the SW division winner finish second, and the SW division runner-up finish 3rd, but still finish ahead of the SW division second runner-up. For that to happen, LA probably can't have anybody but Houston finishing third in the Southwest, meaning Houston must also lose another game, and that probably means Memphis winning the division and finishing second. In this scenario, the Clips are in a two-way tie with the SW division third place finisher, in this situation Houston, and since we already know they went 2-2 against Houston, they'd finish fifth by virtue of conference record.

So, unless I'm missing some other insane tiebreak situation, the only way LA finishes with the 2 seed is if the Spurs, Rockets, and Grizzlies all lose one more game apiece - or just as long as whomever wins the Southwest Division has a worse record than LA. They can only finish with the 5 seed if Memphis wins the SW, the Spurs finish runner-up and get the 3 seed, and Houston loses a 27th game, falls into a two-way tie with the Clippers, and the Clippers win on conference record.

God, my brain fucking hurts. This message took twenty minutes to write up and I'm still not 100% certain of my calculations.

[Agloco]

That's already locked up IMO....just like their seeding.

I respect your opinion, but I suspect Kerr and Curry have a different insight. I'd be shocked if he didn't play at least a half against MEM. MEM will also be without Conley and probably without Gasol.

[Agloco]

whats the tiebreaker condition for a three way tie in a divison?

Aggregate H2H

[boutons_deux]

If Spurs and grizz finish div 9-7, then Grizz get 3rd seed with better conf record.

Spurs get 5th seed.

[Ignignokt]

Good god. Here we go with the my burger chain is better than yours.

How is that any better than "My bucks from my hometown can beat your squad of bucks from your hometown!"?

[Silver&Black]

I respect your opinion, but I suspect Kerr and Curry have a different insight. I'd be shocked if he didn't play at least a half against MEM. MEM will also be without Conley and probably without Gasol.

And you may very well be correct.

Go Warriors Go!!!