Can somebody help identify this?

[Malik Hairston]

Anybody know what sport this is, tbh? What the fuck is this trash?!:lmao

y7PvrQ99FEg

[m>s]

Looks like defense to me

[illmatic]

The good ol' days.

[AlexJones]

Some great grind-out basketball. Work the shot clock, pass up your open shots to get a contested mid range look, then get right back to playing D because scoring isn't essential to winning.. defense is!

[Malik Hairston]

Some great grind-out basketball. Work the shot clock, pass up your open shots to get a contested mid range look, then get right back to playing D because scoring isn't essential to winning.. defense is!

:lmao..

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao..

man off ball movement in the 90's was non-existent.

Who started using off ball movement heavily?

I know a few teams started using a lot of weak side movement around 05...But I only really started watching ball 2002..Maybe someone did it in the late 90's...?

[ElNono]

:lol just horrible basketball, not even great D, just jacking up terrible shots...

[weebo]

Tackle basketball :lol

[Cloud786]

man off ball movement in the 90's was non-existent.

Who started using off ball movement heavily?

I know a few teams started using a lot of weak side movement around 05...But I only really started watching ball 2002..Maybe someone did it in the late 90's...?

Early 2000's Kings team comes to mind with all their backdoor cuts and off ball screens.

[ambchang]

They sure scored more than a combined 15 points in the quarter though.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12671276/new-york-knicks-orlando-magic-combine-15-points-second-quarter

Gotta love the superior pace and space era of ball.

[Malik Hairston]

^^that's a pretty fair comparison, tbh..Knicks-Magic of today in their penultimate games of the season on a b2b to the top East contenders of the 90s outside of the Bulls:lol..

[Clipper Nation]

They sure scored more than a combined 15 points in the quarter though.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12671276/new-york-knicks-orlando-magic-combine-15-points-second-quarter

Gotta love the superior pace and space era of ball.
Speaking of low scoring....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDQwLaq5poU

:lmao '90s basketball

[scanry]

After last year's finals, i couldn't watch even a minute of 90's & 00's ball. Heck even the 2005 title run games looked horrible. I'd love to see how the 2014 Spurs would do against the 90's Bulls.

We are witnessing greatness with Pop.

[Malik Hairston]

After last year's finals, i couldn't watch even a minute of 90's & 00's ball. Heck even the 2005 title run games looked horrible. I'd love to see how the 2014 Spurs would do against the 90's Bulls.

We are witnessing greatness with Pop.

Good post, tbh..

[scanry]

Speaking of low scoring....

:lmao '90s basketball

DK is lucky that he didn't have to go through Pop's motion offense. The fact that it negates elite defense is what makes it all the more impressive.

[Clipper Nation]

DK is lucky that he didn't have to go through Pop's motion offense. The fact that it negates elite defense is what makes it all the more impressive.

:lol Phildo would eventually have to hide DK on the likes of Enrique and Airs, and it still wouldn't be enough to avoid getting swept.

[disciple]

Anybody know what sport this is, tbh? What the fuck is this trash?!:lmao

y7PvrQ99FEg

Man's basketball

[Thebesteva]

I know that OP and CN are like 22-24 years old, I say this not in an antagonistic manner because being young is fucking awesome, but did you guys even really see 90's basketball? I mean its one thing to watch it night in and night out and its an entirely other thing to youtube some of the greatest moments and assume you know what it is.

[apalisoc_9]

I know that OP and CN are like 22-24 years old, I say this not in an antagonistic manner because being young is fucking awesome, but did you guys even really see 90's basketball? I mean its one thing to watch it night in and night out and its an entirely other thing to youtube some of the greatest moments and assume you know what it is.

So wait..That ISO ball video is one of the greatest moments in the 90's?

wow how anyone enjoyed basketball in the 90's is beyond me..

[ElNono]

I watched a lot of Jordan-era games, that's when I actually started liking the game... it was just a different era, with different rules... I don't really miss it, tbh, there's some things that suck on every era (I know I already hate the 10+ min replay reviews), but I really like today's basketball overall.

[Malik Hairston]

At least it's better than watching Oscar Robertson trying to dribble with his off-hand, or Bill Russell trying to make a layup, to be fair:lol..

[FuzzyLumpkins]

man off ball movement in the 90's was non-existent.

Who started using off ball movement heavily?

I know a few teams started using a lot of weak side movement around 05...But I only really started watching ball 2002..Maybe someone did it in the late 90's...?

Heat ran double picks and back screens as weak side action off of pnr and postups. that was their offense. Knicks were more that triangle high post low post bullshit and they had shitty wing talent.

It's like you want to agree with the OP but really don't know how so you just talk out your ass. :lol weakside motion is new to the modern era.

[Pelicans78]

The early 2000s was brutal as well. The Nets-Spurs series is by far the worst display of offensive basketball in NBA history.

[midnightpulp]

The early 2000s was brutal as well. The Nets-Spurs series is by far the worst display of offensive basketball in NBA history.

Pretty much this. There's little difference between mid-90's basketball and basketball from 00-05, before the rule changes. Right now, the overall game is at its peak in that great offense and great defense can co-exist harmoniously. The 80's saw the offensive extreme with terrible overall defense. The 90's-05 saw the defensive extreme. The rule changes have made wing players untouchable, but other than that, they've really been a boon to the game.

[Thebesteva]

So wait..That ISO ball video is one of the greatest moments in the 90's?

wow how anyone enjoyed basketball in the 90's is beyond me..

No smart ass, its not, but if I went the direction and said this is one of the worst videos then their counter argument would be that the greatest hits is the same shit. Read my brotha

[apalisoc_9]

No smart ass, its not, but if I went the direction and said this is one of the worst videos then their counter argument would be that the greatest hits is the same shit. Read my brotha

btw, who is the girl in your sig?

[Thebesteva]

btw, who is the girl in your sig?

A bitch that Splits fucked

[apalisoc_9]

A bitch that Splits fucked

:lol

[lefty]

:lol BeisketBol

[Stalin]

A bitch that Splits fucked



:lol

[Silver&Black]

A bitch that Splits fucked

:lmao

[Malik Hairston]

The early 2000s was brutal as well. The Nets-Spurs series is by far the worst display of offensive basketball in NBA history.

Oh, for sure..that era was absolutely embarrassing, tbh:lol..the Eastern Conference from like 1999 to 2003 was today's Eastern Conference minus the Hawks and Cavs..

I only call it "90s ball", because that's the glorified era by the old heads and Dad Killer cult..everybody acknowledges that the early 2000s was terrible:lol..fortunately for the NBA, the Lakers were doing the winning, which kept the fans watching(as we saw in 2010, where the atrocious Celtics-lakers series still drew fans because of the markets involved)..

[midnightpulp]

Oh, for sure..that era was absolutely embarrassing, tbh:lol..the Eastern Conference from like 1999 to 2003 was today's Eastern Conference minus the Hawks and Cavs..

I only call it "90s ball", because that's the glorified era by the old heads and Dad Killer cult..everybody acknowledges that the early 2000s was terrible:lol..fortunately for the NBA, the Lakers were doing the winning, which kept the fans watching(as we saw in 2010, where the atrocious Celtics-lakers series still drew fans because of the markets involved)..

Imagine prime David Robinson in pace and space?

Anthony Davis, as good as he is, is basically a poor man's David Robinson, and he's putting up historic numbers. With the spacing modern offenses create, David would be unstoppable facing up against opposing bigs. You could clog the lane back then and force David to post up (not his strength), but you couldn't do that today.

[Malik Hairston]

I agree, he would be even better today..it's a shame he isn't more appreciated in his own era..

[Thread]

Imagine prime David Robinson in pace and space?

Like a fish out of the water. In the days of Media they descended upon him like locust---to the point of your tank. Everything you own, even the salvation of Robinson from the tree of woe is because of your tank.

[Thread]

I agree, he would be even better today..it's a shame he isn't more appreciated in his own era..

..Let us not rewrite history here, Hair. Robinson was scorned & ridiculed by Media...even some of you that dwell here this very Sabbath joined in his desecration. He was made an example in the finest traditions. You tanked and saved him from God only knows what ending.

[midnightpulp]

Like a fish out of the water. In the days of Media they descended upon him like locust---to the point of your tank. Everything you own, even the salvation of Robinson from the tree of woe is because of your tank.

We owe a few more events some skin. How 'bout the US Navy? Robinson had to put off San Antonio for two years, enabling the Spurs to draft Sean Elliott. And just when T-Long's Blazers were getting high 'n mighty, Elliott said, "Shhhhhhhh." And how about 29 other teams not calling Ginobili's name on draft day? And they have two chances to do it!

And then, then...


We picked Bird's pocket.

[Thread]

We owe a few more events some skin. How 'bout the US Navy? Robinson had to put off San Antonio for two years, enabling the Spurs to draft Sean Elliott. And just when T-Long's Blazers were getting high 'n mighty, Elliott said, "Shhhhhhhh." And how about 29 other teams not calling Ginobili's name on draft day? And they have two chances to do it!

And then, then...


We picked Bird's pocket.

He is who is in the shadow of the Alamo &&& without sin in the squalid treatment of Robinson show their face.

[Splits]

A bitch that Splits fucked

Don't fucking call me out without a /mention, bitch.

I don't have sigs turned on. Who is it?

[Raven]

hardaway was one of the best bad shooters ever

[100%duncan]

After last year's finals, i couldn't watch even a minute of 90's & 00's ball. Heck even the 2005 title run games looked horrible. I'd love to see how the 2014 Spurs would do against the 90's Bulls.

We are witnessing greatness with Pop.

yup. the only disadvantage of that run tbh :lol

[Raven]

After last year's finals, i couldn't watch even a minute of 90's & 00's ball. Heck even the 2005 title run games looked horrible. I'd love to see how the 2014 Spurs would do against the 90's Bulls.

We are witnessing greatness with Pop.

we'd bitchslap them.

[Pelicans78]

I agree, he would be even better today..it's a shame he isn't more appreciated in his own era..

Its because his performance dropped off in the playoffs. Not quite as bad as Karl Malone, but enough to where he couldn't lead 60 win teams to a championship.

[Thread]

...he was always just one step ahead of the pitch fork mob from San Antonio. Christ, they, in association with Media treated Robinson like shit.

[Hemotivo]

Anybody know what sport this is, tbh? What the fuck is this trash?!:lmao

y7PvrQ99FEg

too much muscle in that video

[jeebus]

The Knicks shoved their dick inside Miami at will during the 90s.

[Thebesteva]

Don't fucking call me out without a /mention, bitch.

I don't have sigs turned on. Who is it?

Don't worry, she's your type. In other words, 85 lbs and deaf

[Splits]

Don't worry, she's your type. In other words, 85 lbs and deaf

Yeah, I turned em on just to see what fatty you were fapping to. Not bad. 6/10

[ambchang]

^^that's a pretty fair comparison, tbh..Knicks-Magic of today in their penultimate games of the season on a b2b to the top East contenders of the 90s outside of the Bulls:lol..

In 1997, MIA was 1st in DRTG, and NYK was 2nd.
Also, NYK was in 25th ORTG and Miami was 12th.

One horrible offense and one average offense vs. elite defense, and the result is a low scoring game. It doesn't really take a genius to figure it out. Despite that, the quarter that you showed STILL ended up with a 25-20 score, that is 55 points, which is a full 40 points MORE than the ORL-NYK game I quoted.

Speaking of the ORL-NYK.
ORL
NYK is 29th in ORTG and 28th in DRTG, while ORL is 27th and 24th.

Horrible defense vs. horrible offense should result in an average scoring game, at the very least, especially considering that this ear is supposed to ahve some level of improvement over previous eras, and yet we ended up with 15 total points, which is the LOWEST in NBA history with the shot clock.


Speaking of low scoring....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDQwLaq5poU

:lmao '90s basketball

This year, an NBA team scores 99.9 points per game, hitting 44.9% of their FGs. It also has an average ORTG (also DRTG) of 105.6.

In 1990, the numbers were 107, 47.6%, and 108.1
In 1997, which is the peak of ugly ball - 96.9, 45.5%, 106.7

Oops

[DMC]

TBE got some luv ITT, expect that line to be used 5 more times with no responses before being shelved.

[Thebesteva]

Yeah, I turned em on just to see what fatty you were fapping to. Not bad. 6/10

I can't even find a gif to exemplify what a fucking loser you are for saying that

[spurraider21]

^^that's a pretty fair comparison, tbh..Knicks-Magic of today in their penultimate games of the season on a b2b to the top East contenders of the 90s outside of the Bulls:lol..
:lmao

[LkrFan]

:lol Phildo would eventually have to hide DK on the likes of Enrique and Airs, and it still wouldn't be enough to avoid getting swept.

Are any of Pop's teams better than the '96 Bulls?

[Infinite_limit]

Pretty damn good starting 4 for both teams

Leonard and Childs the weak links

[Infinite_limit]

man off ball movement in the 90's was non-existent.

Who started using off ball movement heavily?

I know a few teams started using a lot of weak side movement around 05...But I only really started watching ball 2002..Maybe someone did it in the late 90's...?
Bulls Triangle Offense


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnpF3rpEB6s

[apalisoc_9]

Bulls Triangle Offense


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnpF3rpEB6s

Wow these are as good as a 12 seed team in todays nba..lol

[Infinite_limit]

Wow these are as good as a 12 seed team in todays nba..lol
and yet no one in todays NBA would sniff that team/playbook

[Malik Hairston]

and yet no one in todays NBA would sniff that team/playbook :lmao those plays were part of a playbook? :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao those plays were part of a playbook? :lmao

:lmao

[100%duncan]

:lmao those plays were part of a playbook? :lmao

:rollin

[Clipper Nation]

Are any of Pop's teams better than the '96 Bulls?

None of DK's teams would stand a chance against last year's Spurs in the pace-and-space era. Real talk.

[Clipper Nation]

Bulls Triangle Offense


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnpF3rpEB6s

Why is that high school women's basketball team wearing Bulls jerseys?

Oh wait - those were the actual Bulls' plays? :lmao

[Infinite_limit]

None of DK's teams would stand a chance against last year's Spurs in the pace-and-space era. Real talk.
Does Duncan in his prime, start on the 96 Bulls?

[Clipper Nation]

Does Duncan in his prime, start on the 96 Bulls?
Easily. Duncan in his prime was putting up quadruple-doubles in Finals games :lol

[LkrFan]

None of DK's teams would stand a chance against last year's Spurs in the pace-and-space era. Real talk.
Spur Nation has spoken! :lmao

The '96 Bulls would take a diarrhetic, Metamucil laced shit on ALL of the Spur "championship" teams. It wouldn'tbe pretty tbh. :lmao

[ambchang]

:lmao those plays were part of a playbook? :lmao


:lmao


:rollin

And yet the average offensive rating this year is WORSE than those of 1997.

This year, how many teams are actually running a motion offense? The Spurs, Hawks, GSW, and that's about it.

Cavs runs iso, Hou as well. LA is all Chris Paul, POR, and OKC as well. TOR, WAS as well.

To assert that motion offense is some kind of recent phenomenon isn't showing how great the current game is, it simply shows how ignorant you are about the history of the game.

The 70s Knicks ran a motion offense, so did the Walton Blazers. Then there's the 80's Celtics, Nuggets, 90s Sonics, 80s Warriors, early 00 Kings, that either relied heavily or had some variation of the motion offense. In fact, recent motion offense is based on the Princeton offense, which was implemented in the 30s.

The problem is that other than the 86 Celtics, there was a long period of time motion offense didn't yield any success, and the major problem was because the rules allowed constant checking, which kills offensive flow. Not to mention that teams that employed motion offense didn't have the tools to be elite defensively as it is extremely difficult to find 5 or more players who are above average in shooting, passing, dribbling and defense. It is not until recently with the rule changes that allows the advancement of team defense, which in turn gives coaches the flexibility of hiding below average defenders better, and achieve a balance in offense and defense using motion offense principles.

[TampaDude]

Anybody know what sport this is, tbh? What the fuck is this trash?!:lmao

y7PvrQ99FEg

The intro was the best part. :lol

[DMC]

Funny how one person starts a shtick and the usual suspects/sock puppets chime in to support it as if everything that flows in the river of Harlem is drinkable water. I like his takes probably as much as anyone, but what's the point of the sycophant schtick that seems to permeate his threads?

[TampaDude]

Spur Nation has spoken! :lmao

The '96 Bulls would take a diarrhetic, Metamucil laced shit on ALL of the Spur "championship" teams. It wouldn'tbe pretty tbh. :lmao

NOT.

[ambchang]

The agenda is really pretty simple.

The Spurs run a motion offense.

The Spurs won a championship in historical fashion.

Therefore, a motion offense is better than the iso offense of the old days.

Which means that the 2014 is one of the best teams of all time.

By short-changing the teams of the past, the schtick essentially puts the Spurs up in this podium that no other NBA champions can touch. It ignores the obvious rule changes that allowed this offense to prosper, and ignored the rules that allowed smart coaches and system to hide weak defensive links better than the past rules would allow.

[ambchang]

As for the 14 Spurs vs. the 96 Bulls, it again depends on the rules.

In the modern game, the Spurs wins because the Spurs are built based on those rules. The Bulls had phenomenal perimeter defense with players like Pippen, Jordan, Harper and Rodman, but their interior defense wasn't that great. Players like Rik Smits, Ewing, Shaq and Kemp caused problems for those Bulls, and and passing tandem of Duncan and Splitter will cause the same damage. Leonard and Green can help slow down Pippen and Jordan. The help defense on the Spurs will help minimize the effectiveness of the Bulls, while their strong defensive rebounding will help minimize the effectiveness of Rodman on offense.

In 96 though, players like Bellinelli and Parker, and to an extent Manu, would be exposed on defense. They simply do not have the athletic ability to keep up with their counter parts. The long active guards of the Bulls will likely shut down Parker, and there really isn't anyone Bellinelli can guard.

[cantthinkofanything]

Old, sloppy, and full of black men. Fits the description of your mom's vag.

[Atari Tim]

Anybody know what sport this is, tbh? What the fuck is this trash?!:lmao

y7PvrQ99FEg

LOL eastern conference

[Stalin]

As for the 14 Spurs vs. the 96 Bulls, it again depends on the rules.

In the modern game, the Spurs wins because the Spurs are built based on those rules. The Bulls had phenomenal perimeter defense with players like Pippen, Jordan, Harper and Rodman, but their interior defense wasn't that great. Players like Rik Smits, Ewing, Shaq and Kemp caused problems for those Bulls, and and passing tandem of Duncan and Splitter will cause the same damage. Leonard and Green can help slow down Pippen and Jordan. The help defense on the Spurs will help minimize the effectiveness of the Bulls, while their strong defensive rebounding will help minimize the effectiveness of Rodman on offense.

In 96 though, players like Bellinelli and Parker, and to an extent Manu, would be exposed on defense. They simply do not have the athletic ability to keep up with their counter parts. The long active guards of the Bulls will likely shut down Parker, and there really isn't anyone Bellinelli can guard.



:lol:lol:lol

[Beaverfuzz]

Anybody know what sport this is, tbh? What the fuck is this trash?!:lmao

y7PvrQ99FEg

Fuck you faggot.

[Tuddy]

It's true that only the spurs, hawks and Warriors run good motion offense - the best since the 80s. But there's no way those's 70s & 80s team would be able to compete with the difference in quickness & athleticism of the Spurs from last year. There's no way Ron Harper would be able to expose even a slightly declining Parker as far as the 90s are concerned. That's why last year's Champs are the best.