Los Angeles Clippers (3) vs San Antonio Spurs (6) First Round Playoff Series Thread

[Trainwreck2100]

fucking fts

[baseline bum]

Niggas shooting free throws like it was the last 28.2 seconds of 6.

[TDMVPDPOY]

wtf isnt that a travel

[Killakobe81]

:lol what? Nigga's 4-11.

He trying to keep yall in it ...clips was making a run ...he made three straight.

Green cant buy a bucket, yall aint killing him. It's a double standard. Plus I wasnt here for most of the 11 he missed ... LOL

[AlexJones]

Matt Barnes nigga

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol baynes...

[baseline bum]

He trying to keep yall in it ...clips was making a run ...he made three straight.

Green cant buy a bucket, yall aint killing him. It's a double standard. Plus I wasnt here for most of the 11 he missed ... LOL

Green plays defense. Parker has been a defensive turnstile for two years now.

[Robz4000]

Fuck Barnes

[Killakobe81]

LOL Barnes gonna be real popular when he gets to SA ...

and did Reggie just say this is matchup of the two best coaches? Seriously? Doc over RC?

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs need to keep on attacking the rim

they playing like cats out there

[benefactor]

:lol Reggie Miller...Bayes fell over a fucking camera man

[djohn2oo8]

Reggie is an idiot

[Trainwreck2100]

that shit better wake this fucking team up

[TDMVPDPOY]

how is it a jump ball if one man is out of bounds?

[AlexJones]

If they called that a flagrant I'm shoving a cactus up Silver's ass

[rogues]

The Spurs are being cucked right in front of our eyes :wow

[lefty]

It's a $3.5 billion franchise. Results don't lie.

It just proves that a lot of retarded people paid to watch that franchise


No offense, killakobe

[Robz4000]

This is a fucking circus...

[Venti Quattro]

This game is Physical and helter-skelter... Just how most people want their playoff basketball.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lmao flopping bitches

[Killakobe81]

Blake spending more time on his back than a cheap tijuana hooker ...

[baseline bum]

Fuck Barnes

For what? Forcing a jump ball?

[benefactor]

:lmao...Griffin threw Baynes and fell over

[TDMVPDPOY]

fkn cojo is a fkn scrub...

[AlexJones]

:lmao Banes faggotry

[Killakobe81]

Oh shit Blake just added another victim

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao Get in that poster, Baynes!!

[Killakobe81]

Kiwi has great fucking hands

[TDMVPDPOY]

cojo needs to gtfo wiith the over commitment

[baseline bum]

Blake spending more time on his back than a cheap tijuana hooker ...

I prefer to roll them over the other way tbh

[Banzai]

What's the deal with the spurs?? Playing like poo poo

[Killakobe81]

well Like I said Clips have made the repeat harder on themselves by letting the Pelicans beat them ...

LOL Kiwi with a huge steal to setup Manu ....
Blake got hit in the face ...

[TDMVPDPOY]

fkn cojo is a fkn kent, wheres the defense, dude looks clumsy out there

[baseline bum]

What's the deal with the spurs?? Playing like poo poo

They weren't playing that well the last three wins of their streak either. I remember the Phoenix game where the Suns were just missing wide open three after wide open three and all I could think was a real team would have destroyed the Spurs that night.

[benefactor]

Reggie could just line the whole Clippers team up and suck them all dry.

[Robz4000]

Spurs gonna get cucked right out of the playoffs. Might be the most embarrassing defending champs in history.

[Killakobe81]

Kiwi now the one keeping them in it ...great defense and the occasional hoop.

Really like that kid. Not sure he is a SUPER-star but star absolutely. His defense is really good ...if had been healthy he was the DPOTY

[resistanze]

Entire team is ass

[baseline bum]

Spurs gonna get cucked right out of the playoffs. Might be the most embarrassing defending champs in history.

Be real man, no one's touching the 2007 Heat there.

[Robz4000]

They weren't playing that well the last three wins of their streak either. I remember the Phoenix game where the Suns were just missing wide open three after wide open three and all I could think was a real team would have destroyed the Spurs that night.

Said the same thing tbh. Hell, they weren't all that impressive after that game against the Dubs.

[Killakobe81]

Spurs gonna get cucked right out of the playoffs. Might be the most embarrassing defending champs in history.

Avoid the cliff, homey. Just one game and this game is not over. IF I recall a similar PHX team won game one and still lost a series to the Spurs. Plus it's the fucking Clips ...

[Robz4000]

Be real man, no one's touching the 2007 Heat there.

Always forget about them tbh...

[TDMVPDPOY]

fck is pop saving duncan for...

[ElNono]

still shooting 35%... can't win many games playing like that

[AlexJones]

:lmao BANES GO HOME

[TDMVPDPOY]

keep on lobbin it to kawhi

these fkn turds out there with him are just taiiking his shots

cojo again puttin baynes on aposter with his lame defence

[Robz4000]

Avoid the cliff, homey. Just one game and this game is not over. IF I recall a similar PHX team won game one and still lost a series to the Spurs. Plus it's the fucking Clips ...

Trust me, its over. Series won't go past five games either; Spurs just don't have anyone to guard Griffin with Splitter hurt.

[Killakobe81]

Might have to put Kiwi on Blake and go small tbh ...

LOLif the biggest monkey ball team beats a fan-base that hates the style ...


Gosh damn When did Baynes turn in to Mozgof?

[baseline bum]

Man did the Spurs fuck themselves with the egg they laid in New Orleans. A healthy Splitter is critical against the Clippers, so this was about the worst series possible to try to work him back.

[Venti Quattro]

DAMN what a dunk by Blake

[TDMVPDPOY]

:lmao BANES GO HOME

cojo with 2 lame defensive attempts putting baynes on posters

[Spur-Addict]

Baynes is getting shat on

[Robz4000]

still shooting 35%... can't win many games playing like that

This is the fourth game this year they've shot like shit against the Clips. Its a trend.

[~O~]

No lie, Spurs got destroyed tonight. We'll see if they have enough to get back into this one.

[Venti Quattro]

:lol Kiwi choking on a dick

:lol Max Player

[resistanze]

Time for bed

[ElNono]

This is the fourth game this year they've shot like shit against the Clips. Its a trend.

If there's a guy that can figure it out, it's Pop... can't get worried over the 1st game of a series

[Banzai]

Playing like shit tbh

[Robz4000]

If there's a guy that can figure it out, it's Pop... can't get worried over the 1st game of a series

:lol Pop has been terrible this season, he won't figure anything out

[TDMVPDPOY]

what fck up is start of the game...green in shit mode with enrique, ginoboli

kawhi playin with shit kents taking shots away from him

[Killakobe81]

IF clips win game 2 I will feel differently and maybe the Spurs have finally worn down from the three straight long playoff runs ...

But I wont over-react. Repeating is one of the hardest things to do in sports. Shit was never gonna be easy. That is why I LOL at the overconfidence around here. I picked Spurs vs. Cavs but I didnt think it would be easy


And Kiwi trying to carry this team ...need to make Ft's though ...

[ElNono]

:lol Pop has been terrible this season, he won't figure anything out

:lol calm down Robz, we got this

[Spur-Addict]

Anything can happen. Whole quarter left and we haven't been able to hit anything yet. Several possessions of poor transition defense.

[benefactor]

Spurs will play much better in Game 2. If this is the Clips best punch at home then :lol.

[Robz4000]

:lol calm down Robz, we got this

Just don't see it this time. Too many injuries and too much fatigue/decline.

[Killakobe81]

If there's a guy that can figure it out, it's Pop... can't get worried over the 1st game of a series

Gotta sick Green on Paul and Kiwi on Blake and go small. The offensive boards have hurt Clips but if the Spurs big cant defend pnr it's not worth it ...

And no, Pop hasnt got outcoached Spurs still running better sets but the athletic talent disparity is hurting. Kiwi and Maybe Green are only guys that are still in the class of athlete that Blake and DJ are ... not saying they are close but at least they can compete ...

[TDMVPDPOY]

why are the spurs playin like shit afraid to attack the rim

[Trainwreck2100]

Spurs will play much better in Game 2. If this is the Clips best punch at home then :lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if they actually start throwing real punches

[ImDaNuts]

This is as competitive as the Wiz/Raps series.

[Robz4000]

Spurs will play much better in Game 2. If this is the Clips best punch at home then :lol.

The problem is the Spurs might not be capable of overcoming even this.

[Trainwreck2100]

also, nice that they kept up the trend of shit 3rd quarters

[TDMVPDPOY]

manu keep on attackin man, stop with teh step back bullshit high arc crap

[Killakobe81]

gino witha couple big plays ...

[AlexJones]

How the fuck is this Austin Rivers nepotism not a major news story?

[Killakobe81]

When he is hot no one can guard Jcrossova

[Robz4000]

Why the fuck has Pop not been playing Mills?

[Killakobe81]

How the fuck is this Austin Rivers nepotism not a major news story?

He sucks but not sure I guess cuz they winning ....

Patty is like the third PG and is btter than Rivers ...


OMG Timmy!!!

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs making a run

till pop puts in that turd

[Killakobe81]

Spurs should make that extra pass Clips bigs are are over-anxious jumping on every drive at the hoop

[ElNono]

Gotta sick Green on Paul and Kiwi on Blake and go small. The offensive boards have hurt Clips but if the Spurs big cant defend pnr it's not worth it ...

And no, Pop hasnt got outcoached Spurs still running better sets but the athletic talent disparity is hurting. Kiwi and Maybe Green are only guys that are still in the class of athlete that Blake and DJ are ... not saying they are close but at least they can compete ...

Spurs need to come up with some gimmicks to get the offense going... we just shot terribly tonight...

[Spur-Addict]

Ball movement looks a hell of a lot better. Need to string together some stops.

[Trainwreck2100]

24 percentage increase, of fucking course

[Killakobe81]

Spurs need to come up with some gimmicks to get the offense going... we just shot terribly tonight...

But i think issue is Tough for Kiwi to defend Paul or even Jcrossova with all the screens ... there is no great wing threat to sick him on he can play a horry type defensive role on Blake but would be even better at it, tbh

[Spur-Addict]

Yes, there we go.

[TDMVPDPOY]

here comes the spurms

[ElNono]

'ere we go

[Killakobe81]

The champs are finally here ...
Said game wasnt done.

LOL if Clips lose this one ...

[Robz4000]

Welp, if Green heats up and Pop takes Enrique out once Patty and Kawhi get some rest maybe there's a chance...

[ElNono]

But i think issue is Tough for Kiwi to defend Paul or even Jcrossova with all the screens ... there is no great wing threat to sick him on he can play a horry type defensive role on Blake but would be even better at it, tbh

Danny needs to check CP3... like right now.... CP3 will get some of his... but we need more offense... more from Kawhi, Danny, Patty, Tony... just more offense

[~O~]

The party better keep going.

[baseline bum]

CROFL the Hero Ball graphic with Rique

[Trainwreck2100]

If spurs win this game shits over in 5

[ElNono]

As awful as we played, if we made FTs, we would be up right now

[baseline bum]

The champs are finally here ...
Said game wasnt done.

LOL if Clips lose this one ...

I'll never put any choke past CP0 after Game 5 last year and his prevent offense the last 3 1/2 minutes.

[baseline bum]

Great, Mills on the bench after he has shown up to try to clean Parker's mess. :pctoss

[Robz4000]

Spurs just have no answer for Ginger

[Venti Quattro]

As awful as we played, if we made FTs, we would be up right now

Clippers missed more or less the same amount than the Spurs so it would be the same imo if the Clips also converted their freebies.

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao :lmao Diaw

[TDMVPDPOY]

game over as soon turd enrique got back in

[ImDaNuts]

Game over.

[ElNono]

lol Bobo

[Jacob1983]

Spurs can't handle monkey ball. They need some HGH.

[Robz4000]

Spurs just don't have the athleticism/bigs to win this series unless Splitter's vagina magically heals.

[Killakobe81]

Blake a beast but his post moves still needs work ...

[TDMVPDPOY]

why not have bobo and patty out there instead of enrique

everybody knows enrique aint shootin shit cause he cant hit shit

green lmao 2-10

[Venti Quattro]

Even Green's threes aren't falling anymore

[~O~]

Ok..that's game. They fell apart again.

[TDMVPDPOY]

dannygreen....needs to retire

[Killakobe81]

Timmy can fake the shit out of these Clips bigs gotta slow the game down feed Timmy and work KL and the shooters off that ...

[timtonymanu]

Thanks Pop for being so full of yourself and playing shit lineups.

[Banzai]

Clippers in 5?

[Killakobe81]

One worry for clips Paul tends to wear down as a series moves on his game 1-3 splits vs. 4-7 I bet without looking them up are progressively worse.

[baseline bum]

Pull everyone but Enrique, Pop. Parker can sit here in this bed he shit in.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol the french duo....lmao

[benefactor]

One of those nights shooting. This is the game it needed to happen in. On to Game 2.

[Trainwreck2100]

Clippers in 5?

spurs aren't that bad from 3 and clips aren't that good

[AlexJones]

Take Paul out of the game before his knees explode you n!gger

[Robz4000]

Clippers in 5?

Clippers in 5. Too much dead weight on the roster this year.

[InTheCrust]

gonna be the spurs first game 1 loss since 8

[ElNono]

We had great looks, we couldn't knock em down... gotta keep chomping at the bit. I still think we take this series.

[Killakobe81]

Pop saving his two best players smart move to remove them game is over.


Well the cliff jumping upstairs should be fun. still picking Spurs in 6. y'all wont repeat but I expect you to win this round. if you don't no one to blame but yourselves.


Also niccas had smart shit to say yesterday in GSW thread when i said worry about clips not warriors. Where is Fkla and the bitches laughing in that thread? Shit still funny? Of course I know that fans have no affect my point was putting so much energy onthe Dubs who you might not play was misguided ...and smacked of fear.

[Strange Love]

Spurs are rusty. They will come back for game 2 and dominate.

[Spur-Addict]

Literally nothing went right. Well, for the most part. It's only one game. The realistic goal being to steal one on the road in the first two. Plenty of time to review tape, hopefully Splitter makes some progress in the next two days. And we can go from there.

[Killakobe81]

Paul with his normal game one heroics ...

[Venti Quattro]

Spurs are rusty. They will come back for game 2 and dominate.

How can they be rusty when all playoff-bound teams more or less got the same number of days off prior to the playoffs? :lmao

[baseline bum]

I still think we take this series.

If Splitter is healthy and starting Game 2, then yes. Otherwise I'd put it maybe 40/60 with Baynes having to guard Monkeyball. Man I really didn't want this matchup in the first round with how critical Splitter is in it.

[baseline bum]

Literally nothing went right. Well, for the most part. It's only one game. The realistic goal being to steal one on the road in the first two. Plenty of time to review tape, hopefully Splitter makes some progress in the next two days. And we can go from there.

Nothing went right? The Clippers shit the bed in the first half and were playing every bit as bad as the Spurs.

[Jacob1983]

Chris Paul and KIA boy still in the game to do some stat padding.
I won't feel bad if they get hurt.

[Killakobe81]

If Splitter is healthy and starting Game 2, then yes. Otherwise I'd put it maybe 40/60 with Baynes having to guard Monkeyball. Man I really didn't want this matchup in the first round with how critical Splitter is in it.

You and others had said that didnt think he was that critical but tonight it appeared so ...

That being said Spurs have the talent to still win if they execute.

[Robz4000]

How can they be rusty when all playoff-bound teams more or less got the same number of days off prior to the playoffs? :lmao

Was gonna say the same thing. Spurs are just overmatched and unhealthy. If they win more than a game I'll be surprised.

[AlexJones]

You don't lose by 15 points because of rust or luck, this is the Spurs' home/road discrepancy showing. Coin flip series right now.

[Killakobe81]

Paul wears down as a series progresses ...
Spurs gotta extend the series ...

[Spur-Addict]

Nothing went right? The Clippers shit the bed in the first half and were playing every bit as bad as the Spurs.

Eh, the 2nd quarter wasn't exactly stellar. But you forget they put up 30 in the first quarter. I wouldn't call that, "Shitting The Bed'.

[Trainwreck2100]

How can they be rusty when all playoff-bound teams more or less got the same number of days off prior to the playoffs? :lmao

Clips had an extra day and spurs had 2 travel days (their fault mind you, but still)

[benefactor]

Well the cliff jumping upstairs should be fun.
They are already all lathered up.

[Clipper Nation]

Chris Paul and KIA boy still in the game to do some stat padding.
I won't feel bad if they get hurt.

They were still in the game because our bench could blow an 100-point lead :lol

[Killakobe81]

Chuck with jokes shaq has a bunch of bastard kids ..

[Clipper Nation]

Spurfan needs to stop making excuses. Yeah, you were cold from three, couldn't make free throws, etc., etc., but you got road cooking from the refs, especially in the first half. I'm sure Pop will make adjustments for Game 2 and it will be a tough battle, but you lost this game fair and square.

[Killakobe81]

They are already all lathered up.

Hasn't Pop, Tim, Manu Tony and even KL erned some patience before that? I thin k a 2-0 deficit will be alarming but one loss? Troubling but no cause for panic.

[Venti Quattro]

Clippers were chest-thumping, monkeying up and celebrating all over the floor with every made shot and defensive stop.

Wonder what Clipper Nation says about this, considering he despises the Warriors for apparently being that. :lol

[Killakobe81]

Spurfan needs to stop making excuses. Yeah, you were cold from three, couldn't make free throws, etc., etc., but you got road cooking from the refs, especially in the first half. I'm sure Pop will make adjustments for Game 2 and it will be a tough battle, but you lost this game fair and square.

of course they did game was physical calls missed on both sides ...

[Holden_Caulfield]

someone gif ballmer

[Killakobe81]

Clippers were chest-thumping, monkeying up and celebrating all over the floor with every made shot and defensive stop.

Wonder what Clipper Nation says about this, considering he despises the Warriors for apparently being that. :lol

yep. But when Gsstate does it al we hear is they havent won shit yet ... what have the Clips won?

[benefactor]

Hasn't Pop, Tim, Manu Tony and even KL erned some patience before that? I thin k a 2-0 deficit will be alarming but one loss? Troubling but no cause for panic.
They know no other way. I'm thinking half of those posters are Kori and LJ trolling the whole forum because they just don't give a fuck anymore.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Lakerfan once again playing Captain Save-a-Ho for their new favorite team. :lol

[Strange Love]

How can they be rusty when all playoff-bound teams more or less got the same number of days off prior to the playoffs? :lmao

Older bodies acclimate differently.

[Bynumite]

Spurfan needs to stop making excuses. Yeah, you were cold from three, couldn't make free throws, etc., etc., but you got road cooking from the refs, especially in the first half. I'm sure Pop will make adjustments for Game 2 and it will be a tough battle, but you lost this game fair and square.

Now this faggot wants to play clipperfan after shitting on CPFlop and Tom all season long and showing 0 faith in the team :lmao

Truly a bonafide bandwagoner :lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

Spurfan needs to stop making excuses. Yeah, you were cold from three, couldn't make free throws, etc., etc., but you got road cooking from the refs, especially in the first half. I'm sure Pop will make adjustments for Game 2 and it will be a tough battle, but you lost this game fair and square.
that right there is the main reason they lost though the clips are running around the court with defensive "energy." They're best runs were from made threes after all. And the Spurs just missed wide open threes. If they continue on that shitty clip they won't win. That combined with Ebola patient having his usual bullshit show was ballgame

[Budkin]

Spurfan needs to stop making excuses. Yeah, you were cold from three, couldn't make free throws, etc., etc., but you got road cooking from the refs, especially in the first half. I'm sure Pop will make adjustments for Game 2 and it will be a tough battle, but you lost this game fair and square.

Grats on the win, ClipperNation

[ezau]

Grats Clipper Nation. This series reminds me of the 2008 WCSF match between SA and NO. This will go 7 games, tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

u make a late run with kawhi, mills and belli hittin 3 3s to get the lead down to 12

then u go and chuck in that turd enrique for mills, then lead goes back up

seriously enrique does nothing on offense when his shots aint falling, especially when the team is daring him to shoot, all he does is dribble down the clock and n othing else on defense...at leasts mills provides shooting, spacing, and hustle defence...

[Killakobe81]

Pop shittin' on the press once again ...

what a smartass i love him but what a dick.

[Trainwreck2100]

Pop shittin' on the press once again ...

what a smartass i love him but what a dick.
playoff popovich is most glorious popovich

[TDMVPDPOY]

what killed the spurs momentum was green not hittin his open looks, allowing a big gap to chase down

parker and gino both shit kents

kawhi started going late, whether its due to not enough touches to go around, but he made shots with the bench....

notice they are setting double screens when kawhi is defending cp3...

[Infinite_limit]

IF clips win game 2 I will feel differently and maybe the Spurs have finally worn down from the three straight long playoff runs ...

But I wont over-react. Repeating is one of the hardest things to do in sports. Shit was never gonna be easy. That is why I LOL at the overconfidence around here. I picked Spurs vs. Cavs but I didnt think it would be easy


And Kiwi trying to carry this team ...need to make Ft's though ...
Fairly easy to repeat in the NBA

Since 1987
- 8 teams repeated
- 8 teams didn't (4 times Spurs)


This would be a direct reflection on the Spurs run

[Koolaid_Man]

They are already all lathered up.

You look more like a homosexual everyday..your avatar selfie is gay as fuck you look like some dick hungry queer boy.....di c k sucking asss lips with the homo glasses tbh....

[ElNono]

Spurfan needs to stop making excuses. Yeah, you were cold from three, couldn't make free throws, etc., etc., but you got road cooking from the refs, especially in the first half. I'm sure Pop will make adjustments for Game 2 and it will be a tough battle, but you lost this game fair and square.

gg, completely agree. As Pop said, your defense was better than our offense tonight.

[AlexJones]

Spurs shot 34% on 3's for the road this year. 30.3% tonight. Yeah, if you're expecting them to just shake off the rust and go lights out next game you're delusional.

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs are done man

i dont know why pop always take out the guy with the hot hand gettin the team back into the game, then he chucks on his shitty players who was responsible for the blowout...fkn wanker

[ElNono]

also impressed with Blake's maturity on the post-game presser, tbh

[Robz4000]

spurs are done man

i dont know why pop always take out the guy with the hot hand gettin the team back into the game, then he chucks on his shitty players who was responsible for the blowout...fkn wanker

Pop has been mediocre by his standards this year tbh. Having shitty assistant coaches isn't helping matters.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Pop has been mediocre by his standards this year tbh. Having shitty assistant coaches isn't helping matters.

believing in enrique hahaha fck that kent,

if this clown is playin game 2 with injury, he should just stay in his room, dont even need this clown...

[Infinite_limit]

Pop has been mediocre by his standards this year tbh. Having shitty assistant coaches isn't helping matters.
Isn't there a broad on the staff?

[Robz4000]

Isn't there a broad on the staff?

Yop, tho she's mostly there to appease Enrique.

[LnGrrrR]

Fairly easy to repeat in the NBA

Since 1987
- 8 teams repeated
- 8 teams didn't (4 times Spurs)


This would be a direct reflection on the Spurs run

1987 + 16 = 2015

Math checks out.

[Silver&Black]

1987 + 16 = 2015

Math checks out.

I think you've got to factor in things like the Lakers and Bulls 3 peating (Bulls twice). That's 9 years for just two teams...

[LnGrrrR]

Well, the question becomes, do you count each year as a "repeat" or not? Did the Bulls of '93 count as a team that didn't repeat (technically fourpeat), or did they get a pass because they repeated already?

Edit: Did the math, and I see that as long as you repeated, then losing at the end didn't count. Math checks out, actually.

Of course, it's curious that he chose the year 1987... I wonder why...

Oh maybe because

NO TEAM REPEATED FROM 1970 to 1987. (technically 1988, as Lakers didn't repeat until then)

Makes his argument slightly less impressive when you change the cutoff date.

[Silver&Black]

http://i.imgur.com/S0nrpqv.png

Teams that did repeat:
1. Lakers
2. Pistons
3. Bulls
4. Rockets
5. Bulls 2x
6. Lakers
7. Lakers 2x
8. Heat

Teams that did not repeat:
1. Spurs
2. Spurs 2x
3. Pistons
4. Spurs 3x
5. Heat
6. Spurs 4x
7. Celtics
8. Mavs

He's not counting the last years for the repeating teams btw....and he's still a fag.

[Killakobe81]

Well, the question becomes, do you count each year as a "repeat" or not? Did the Bulls of '93 count as a team that didn't repeat (technically fourpeat), or did they get a pass because they repeated already?

Edit: Did the math, and I see that as long as you repeated, then losing at the end didn't count. Math checks out, actually.

Of course, it's curious that he chose the year 1987... I wonder why...

Oh maybe because

NO TEAM REPEATED FROM 1970 to 1987. (technically 1988, as Lakers didn't repeat until then)

Makes his argument slightly less impressive when you change the cutoff date.

This and I said in all of sports ... just since 1987 if you add the 4 major sports Nfl, mlb and nil how many repeat champs are there? Lakers, Pistons, Bulls, Cowboys, Pats Lakers with with two more teams and Yanks? I think Penguins also got one two (Mario Not Crosby)

[LnGrrrR]

S&B, yeah, caught that. But if he went back to 1970, it would destroy his whole argument.

Yeah Killa, it's a dumb argument. :) Watch, if Spurs win this year, it becomes, "They didn't threepeat yet, like Jordan's Bulls or Kobe's Lakers".... it's dumb.

[Venti Quattro]

S&B, yeah, caught that. But if he went back to 1970, it would destroy his whole argument.

Yeah Killa, it's a dumb argument. :) Watch, if Spurs win this year, it becomes, "They didn't threepeat yet, like Jordan's Bulls or Kobe's Lakers".... it's dumb.

Sup Legrider are you watching playoff games in Beantown?

[LnGrrrR]

Nah mang, overseas. No clue when these playoff games are on, probably like 2 in the morning.

[Venti Quattro]

Nah mang, overseas. No clue when these playoff games are on, probably like 2 in the morning.

Where are you serving now? In Uzbekistan or something?

[LnGrrrR]

Nah, Kuwait. Bringing up a new base, kinda.

Supporting this stuff: http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2014/0814_iraq/

[djohn2oo8]

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[Killakobe81]

S&B, yeah, caught that. But if he went back to 1970, it would destroy his whole argument.

Yeah Killa, it's a dumb argument. :) Watch, if Spurs win this year, it becomes, "They didn't threepeat yet, like Jordan's Bulls or Kobe's Lakers".... it's dumb.

I do think repeating is impressive and tough but the reality both Bird's celts and Duncan's Spurs are still dynasties without it. And is not fault on their legacies. Where I think it hurts is the GOAT team arguments the 1986 Celts and I think in timde the 2014 Spurs will look at as historic individual seasons two of the best I have seen. But I do think MJ's bulls and shaqobe Lakers get a little extra credit on their resume ... but it's all debatable.

[Killakobe81]

Nah, Kuwait. Bringing up a new base, kinda.

Supporting this stuff: http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2014/0814_iraq/

good stuff. Again, we appreciate your service. not a bad year Lngrrr, Celts look like they have a clue coach and FO wise. Pats win it all ....anything sox do is just gravy tbh.

[ambchang]

I do think repeating is impressive and tough but the reality both Bird's celts and Duncan's Spurs are still dynasties without it. And is not fault on their legacies. Where I think it hurts is the GOAT team arguments the 1986 Celts and I think in timde the 2014 Spurs will look at as historic individual seasons two of the best I have seen. But I do think MJ's bulls and shaqobe Lakers get a little extra credit on their resume ... but it's all debatable.

How is being able to stay healthy the following year have anything to do with success of the previous year?

[Killakobe81]

How is being able to stay healthy the following year have anything to do with success of the previous year?

already said that the 1986 Celts for example are a great team one of the GOATS but sustaining that success the next year for me shows an extra level of greatness. I knew some Spur fans would get alll sensitive but when you are talking about the best of the best sometimes you have to pick hairs. IF the spurs repeat it absolutely elevates last year's team from one of the great "one-offs" to another level. You may not agree as you are want to do but that's my opinion.

[LnGrrrR]

good stuff. Again, we appreciate your service. not a bad year Lngrrr, Celts look like they have a clue coach and FO wise. Pats win it all ....anything sox do is just gravy tbh.

Thanks man. I watched the game over here... had my jersey on, was loud and obnoxious, you know, repping those true Boston fans. When that int happened, I thought it was caught by a Seahawks, and despaired, until I heard the other Patsfans cheering and looked up like WTF?

When that juggled ball was caught, I must have stomped around for a mile in a 5 ft circle, mindlessly repeating, "How can this happen? How the fuck does this happen? Not again! This can't happen! How does this happen?" ad infinitum. Hawks fans were feeling themselves.

To my dying day I'll have no clue why they didn't run Lynch. All the Hawks fans were chanting "Beast Mode" (clap clap) "Beast Mode" (clap clap).

They tried to spin the "You got lucky we didn't run Lynch" BS, but uh-uh. If anything was lucky, it was dat catch.

[LnGrrrR]

I can see that KK, as it cements their dominance.

[baseline bum]

Nah, Kuwait. Bringing up a new base, kinda.

Supporting this stuff: http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2014/0814_iraq/

Damn, and you thought Cannon AFB was going to be as bad as it gets. :lol

[Killakobe81]

Thanks man. I watched the game over here... had my jersey on, was loud and obnoxious, you know, repping those true Boston fans. When that int happened, I thought it was caught by a Seahawks, and despaired, until I heard the other Patsfans cheering and looked up like WTF?

When that juggled ball was caught, I must have stomped around for a mile in a 5 ft circle, mindlessly repeating, "How can this happen? How the fuck does this happen? Not again! This can't happen! How does this happen?" ad infinitum. Hawks fans were feeling themselves.

To my dying day I'll have no clue why they didn't run Lynch. All the Hawks fans were chanting "Beast Mode" (clap clap) "Beast Mode" (clap clap).

They tried to spin the "You got lucky we didn't run Lynch" BS, but uh-uh. If anything was lucky, it was dat catch.

great point that was almost as fluky as Tyree thought yal got burnt again ...

[LnGrrrR]

Damn, and you thought Cannon AFB was going to be as bad as it gets. :lol

lol I'd rather six months here than 3 years there :D

Gonna go visit the Smoky Mountains when I get back. Went to NCO Academy there two years back, that area is really nice and late August/early Sept should be a great time to go.

Also, I have 30 days of use or lose leave... hurray taking a whole month off.

[Monostradamus]

Thanks man. I watched the game over here... had my jersey on, was loud and obnoxious, you know, repping those true Boston fans. When that int happened, I thought it was caught by a Seahawks, and despaired, until I heard the other Patsfans cheering and looked up like WTF?

When that juggled ball was caught, I must have stomped around for a mile in a 5 ft circle, mindlessly repeating, "How can this happen? How the fuck does this happen? Not again! This can't happen! How does this happen?" ad infinitum. Hawks fans were feeling themselves.

To my dying day I'll have no clue why they didn't run Lynch. All the Hawks fans were chanting "Beast Mode" (clap clap) "Beast Mode" (clap clap).

They tried to spin the "You got lucky we didn't run Lynch" BS, but uh-uh. If anything was lucky, it was dat catch.
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[Infinite_limit]

How is being able to stay healthy the following year have anything to do with success of the previous year?
Level of dominance. A team able to win 2 to 3 consecutive Championships is dominating a period of time

This is one big reason why the Spurs are somewhat playing 2nd fiddle to the Lakers or even Heat in the medias eyes. Without a Repeat: which Spurs team was the best? Which team do you showcase? Each one is treated individually which puts it in the group with Mavericks, Shaq's Heat, Billup's Pistons.

Legacy wise, it would probably be best for the Spurs to Repeat and retire. Then people will forever debate whether they could win the 3-peat.

My point being, unless the Spurs atleast repeat, they won't be included in many peoples eyes as "The Most Dominant". Instead they are one of the most consistent. Outside of this forum, people don't view the 2014 Spurs as some kind of GOAT team. It's more "Well the Heat were tired from the previous 3 Finals appearances and Thunder grossly overrated".

Look at how the Giants are treated in Baseball. They have won 3 in 5 years.

[Infinite_limit]

Repeating in Sports is really hard because players become complacent but also you aren't reloading the roster. It's always easier to flame out the 2nd season and return the 3rd year with passion and a new reloaded roster.

[Killakobe81]

Level of dominance. A team able to win 2 to 3 consecutive Championships is dominating a period of time

This is one big reason why the Spurs are somewhat playing 2nd fiddle to the Lakers or even Heat in the medias eyes. Without a Repeat: which Spurs team was the best? Which team do you showcase? Each one is treated individually which puts it in the group with Mavericks, Shaq's Heat, Billup's Pistons.

Legacy wise, it would probably be best for the Spurs to Repeat and retire. Then people will forever debate whether they could win the 3-peat.

My point being, unless the Spurs atleast repeat, they won't be included in many peoples eyes as "The Most Dominant". Instead they are one of the most consistent. Outside of this forum, people don't view the 2014 Spurs as some kind of GOAT team. It's more "Well the Heat were tired from the previous 3 Finals appearances and Thunder grossly overrated".

Look at how the Giants are treated in Baseball. They have won 3 in 5 years.

A lot of this. Giants (hate those guys) have been one of the most dominant teams in recent sports ...but not repeating has made it less prominent. I get what Amb is saying that each individual season can be viewed as such but gain as Infinite says to really capture a significant place you have to repeat unless you are the 1985 Bears, 1986 Celts, 1983 Sixers but not sure those teams are considered as dominant as the repeaters (of that era).

As for the spurs who this wasnt truly about initially ... Birds celts is probably the closest comparisonas far as eras. Spurs have won more rings, maintained an elite level longer and Celts never repeated either. Should a case be made that the spurs big 3 is greater than the Celts (not just by ring count)?

And where does Duncan/Pop Spurs rank vs. Magic's lakers? 5 rings to 5 ... more than a decade of elite play. Of course Im taking Showtime... but it's close and I think the repeat does give the Lakers a slight edge. But before the past few seasons I would have said such talk was crazy.

[ambchang]

already said that the 1986 Celts for example are a great team one of the GOATS but sustaining that success the next year for me shows an extra level of greatness. I knew some Spur fans would get alll sensitive but when you are talking about the best of the best sometimes you have to pick hairs. IF the spurs repeat it absolutely elevates last year's team from one of the great "one-offs" to another level. You may not agree as you are want to do but that's my opinion.

Very convoluted logic.

Take it on an individual basis. If a player had the greatest season in NBA history one year, then got injured the next, was he some how less great the previous season? Extend this to a team, and there you go.

[ambchang]

Level of dominance. A team able to win 2 to 3 consecutive Championships is dominating a period of time

You are talking about a prolonged period of dominance assuming the exact same team, and has nothing to do with the dominance of a team over a single year.

Besides, the Spurs won 5 championships over less than two decades with Pop and Duncan as the only common thread, had 3 championships over a 5 years period with the same core, and yet that is less dominant than, say the Rockets because the Rockets won b2b?


This is one big reason why the Spurs are somewhat playing 2nd fiddle to the Lakers or even Heat in the medias eyes. Without a Repeat: which Spurs team was the best? Which team do you showcase? Each one is treated individually which puts it in the group with Mavericks, Shaq's Heat, Billup's Pistons.

No, it was because the Lakers are in LA, the Heat are in Miami, and the Spurs are in San Antonio. There really isn't any way around that. The media has absolutely no problem ranking the 08 Celtics as one of the best team of all time (defensively) despite the lack of a b2b, or the fact that a few Spurs championship teams had better defensive numbers than them. It's because they are from Boston.

As for which Spurs team was the best, it really depends on rules and era. I would say the 05 team was the best with Ginobili in his prime, Parker close to his prime, and Duncan (albeit injured) still close to his prime. But the 2014 team was special in the sense of how effectively the system was ran.


Legacy wise, it would probably be best for the Spurs to Repeat and retire. Then people will forever debate whether they could win the 3-peat.
If the Spurs repeat, the knock is that they won't be able to three peat (or the league stinks now, etc ....), if the Spurs three peat, the knock will be they won't be able to win 8 straight and 10 of 11 like the Russell Celtics, or that the Spurs is just a step ahead of the transition from an individually dominated system to a team approach and such. If your team is from SA, you will ALWAYS have your legacy questioned.


My point being, unless the Spurs atleast repeat, they won't be included in many peoples eyes as "The Most Dominant". Instead they are one of the most consistent. Outside of this forum, people don't view the 2014 Spurs as some kind of GOAT team. It's more "Well the Heat were tired from the previous 3 Finals appearances and Thunder grossly overrated".

Look at how the Giants are treated in Baseball. They have won 3 in 5 years.

What are in people's eyes aren't really that important, and these type of descriptions were clearly used to push people's agendas. Your "Garnett was more influential than Duncan" post was a clear indication of that. It's like saying Jordan was dominant, but he wasn't the best leader at all talk, or the Spurs were boring talk. It's just these random knocks that cannot possibly be backed up to raise the ire of the opposition, and it's retarded at best.

[ambchang]

BTW, the 2014 Spurs are no where close the the best team of all time. 86 Celtics, Walton Blazers, 92 Bulls (I always thought the 96 Bulls was way overrated), the 83 6ers, the 87 Lakers and the 01 Lakers should all be considered better, and a whole bunch of others are better as well.

[Killakobe81]

BTW, the 2014 Spurs are no where close the the best team of all time. 86 Celtics, Walton Blazers, 92 Bulls (I always thought the 96 Bulls was way overrated), the 83 6ers, the 87 Lakers and the 01 Lakers should all be considered better, and a whole bunch of others are better as well.

I agree, And I said that prior. But if they did win this year it would change the feeling about that team to some degree and to some critics and that was my point a repeat is different.

BTW, I do think the 2014 spurs though had some of the best ball movement of any recent title team maybe the 2011 Mavs and 2004 Pistons are close (Shaqobe Lakers moved the ball great at times but to often became shaq pound or Kobe iso).

I think the the 86 Celts, the 2014 Spurs and 20111 Mavs to a lessor degree as the best at ball movement. Crazy thing is Pop and RC are two of the best coaches I have seen in the NBA. KC jones was good but not great. Extra points for Bird for making passing infectious. Only Punk ass McHale was a blackhole on that squad ...

[Killakobe81]

and I never saw that 77 team but I hear they had great passing ... I dont judge teams I never saw.

[hehateme]

Damn, and you thought Cannon AFB was going to be as bad as it gets. :lol

Cannon is as bad as it gets. When it went to specops there were so many tears from those who had to move from Florida to there it was like a waterfall. To top it off shitty home prices rose about 200% because the community knew it was ass raping time on pricing. They don't care about the base or the town growth, just the money. People were doing short tours anywhere and even vol'ing to Minot to get out lol.

[Infinite_limit]

I notice Hakeem's Rockets are more often referenced than the current Spurs. Since Duncan is the higher rated player, that's odd.

"Never doubt the heart of a Champion". Spurs always returned reborn.

Rockets defeated: Ewing and Shaq
Spurs best: Pistons and Heat

Cavs and Nets are wash. Where do you rank 99 Knicks?

[Venti Quattro]

Where do you rank 99 Knicks?

:lmao Ewing

[Clipper Nation]

I notice Hakeem's Rockets are more often referenced than the current Spurs. Since Duncan is the higher rated player, that's odd.

It's because the media is full of faggots like you who are still living in the past.

[Infinite_limit]

:lmao Ewing
Houston & Sprewell were great at their roles but not much past Camby & 4-point LJ

Pacers choked

[FlAVaK]

:lmao Get in that poster, Baynes!!

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[ambchang]

I agree, And I said that prior. But if they did win this year it would change the feeling about that team to some degree and to some critics and that was my point a repeat is different.

BTW, I do think the 2014 spurs though had some of the best ball movement of any recent title team maybe the 2011 Mavs and 2004 Pistons are close (Shaqobe Lakers moved the ball great at times but to often became shaq pound or Kobe iso).

I think the the 86 Celts, the 2014 Spurs and 20111 Mavs to a lessor degree as the best at ball movement. Crazy thing is Pop and RC are two of the best coaches I have seen in the NBA. KC jones was good but not great. Extra points for Bird for making passing infectious. Only Punk ass McHale was a blackhole on that squad ...

86 as all Bird. I have never been a fan of KC Jones, and felt that it was more the quality of players than the coach himself.

As for perception, I agree that it will change, but it just isn't logical to do so, and at the end, I think we are on the same boat with regards to where the 2014 Spurs stand. The ball movement was spectacular, and I can only really think of the Walton Blazers and the Reed Knicks as the other comparisons. I didn't think the ball movement with the 04 Pistons was all that great. Billups was a huge piece of their offense, and Rasheed was a phenomenal passer (very underrated player), but other than that, the other players were all that special. Larry Brown was a great coach, too bad he was such a horrible GM and impatient person, or he would have been collecting rings in multiple places over his career instead of "only" having one.

The Mavs had great ball movement, but still, at the end, Dirk bails them out a lot.

[ambchang]

and I never saw that 77 team but I hear they had great passing ... I dont judge teams I never saw.

You got to dig up some tapes, just a phenomenal team. You probably can't watch 30 of their games, but if you can get a hand on their finals run, it was something else.

[AlexJones]

Just realized that if the Clippas get it done, it will be the earliest Thread return from the reading room in 4 playoff years.

[Clipper Nation]

Just realized that if the Clippas get it done, it will be the earliest Thread (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320) return from the reading room in 4 playoff years.

He'd have an equally quick return to the reading room with all the barrels I'd be rolling on his ass.

[Robz4000]

Not looking good for the Spurs so far...

[benefactor]

Not looking good for the Spurs so far...
:lol...really?

[Strange Love]

These games are shown so fucking late.

[benefactor]

Defense needs to wake up, but a good start all things considered.

[Robz4000]

:lol...really?

Got better right after I posted that. Still, Spurs can't hit their freebies and the D is bad.

[benefactor]

Come on Boris

[benefactor]

:lol Doc getting T'd up defending his son

[Robz4000]

Offense stagnating while the D isn't improving...

[Holden_Caulfield]

someone needs to knock down blake

[Robz4000]

:lol Spurs' FT shooting

[spurraider21]

if we hit our WIDE open 3's... we would win by double digits

[~O~]

Come on Spurs.........

[Robz4000]

if we hit our WIDE open 3's... we would win by double digits

Its been a theme all year unfortunately...

[spurraider21]

its arite bonner will spread the floor and the clippers ass cheeks

[spurraider21]

:lol bonner double team forces a turnover

[benefactor]

Grande Beli!

[benefactor]

Kiwi is ballin

[Robz4000]

Can we get Green back in tbh?

[benefactor]

We are witnessing some greatness out of Duncan tonight.

[Robz4000]

Thank God for Tim Duncan tbh. The rest of the team needs to show up.

[~O~]

Duncan is in the zone....don't tell me the game is important. Show me the game is important..

[AlexJones]

It'd sure help the Clippers out if the Spurs ain't getting vehement road cooking per par

[Robz4000]

Damn, Leonard has 11?

[Arcadian]

:worthy: Duncan

[benefactor]

Stat of the half? Clippers have only shot two FTs. Spurs haven't been that good defensively, but they've done a great job at not fouling.

[TDMVPDPOY]

duncan has the hot hand

just look for pop to play him less or

spurs system going away from the hot hand...

this is text book since day 1

[Clipper Nation]

DJ and Jamal are retards and their mental midgetry will be the reason we lose. Gotta tip my cap to Duncan, though, he's having a vintage game.

[TDMVPDPOY]

enrique in posts playoff form...

a coat rider will always be a coat rider...big3 my ass

[Robz4000]

DJ and Jamal are retards and their mental midgetry will be the reason we lose. Gotta tip my cap to Duncan, though, he's having a vintage game.

Jordan is still in the Spurs' heads outside Tim, and Crawford can get hot whenever. Timmy also won't keep it up in the second half while Griffin will. Unless Mills is able to stay in the game and have an impact, Clippers prolly win.

[Clipper Nation]

Jordan is still in the Spurs' heads outside Tim, and Crawford can get hot whenever. Timmy also won't keep it up in the second half while Griffin will. Unless Mills is able to stay in the game and have an impact, Clippers prolly win.

Blake's definitely been carrying us, he's the only one who seems to realize how important this game is. Don't see Timmy falling off unless Enrique gets jealous and starts freezing him out in the second half, a la 6.

[~O~]

Thinking too much already..

[benefactor]

Greatness

[~O~]

Duncan with the official legit grittiness. If Griffin didn't make it to that ball, that would have been a major momentum loss.

[Robz4000]

Smdh Spurs

[Robz4000]

Get Parker out of the fucking game.

[Clipper Nation]

We need at least one other player to grow a pair and step up offensively if we want to win this game.

[benefactor]

Great game...save Reggie Miller wanting Paul and Griffin to tag team his asshole.

[benefactor]

Finals MVP doing finals MVP things

[Robz4000]

If Crawford gets going this is over. Can't believe Pop has stuck with Enrique this long.

[Robz4000]

Hack-a-Jordan time

[Venti Quattro]

We need at least one other player to grow a pair and step up offensively if we want to win this game.

You talking about the Spurs or the Clippers?

[Clipper Nation]

You talking about the Spurs or the Clippers?

^ Warriors "fan" with a Lakers logo ^

[Robz4000]

Fucking hell

[benefactor]

Keep shooting Patty

[Venti Quattro]

MVPatty

[Robz4000]

Keep feeding Mills

[benefactor]

Couple of huge threes there by Patty. He's getting ready for the 4th.